How to Buy Your First System
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- čas přidán 17. 07. 2024
- We go into some detail and strategy for buying your first audio system.
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Audio Excellence Inc. is a high end audio/video store in Markham, Ontario, Canada, a suburb of Toronto. We've been in business since 1991.
Check out our interviews with designers and audio luminaries like Daryl Wilson of Wilson Audio, Paul McGowan of PS Audio, Paolo Tezzon of Sonus faber, Wendell Diller of Magnepan, John Atkinson of Stereophile, Dan D'Agostino of D'Agostino Master Audio Systems, Nelson Pass of Pass Labs and others.
Our website is www.audioexcellence.ca
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Adrian@audioexcellence.ca
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Vilip and Adrian are the best.
So much fun to listen to you guys tell stories! Wish I were back in TO to drop by and say hi! Cheers from France!
These two Exude Integrity!!!
As always nice video. Sharing your experiences so valuable. Do talk about Shindo gear, always heard much about them. A dream system for some that I know. Nice to hear your take.
Good conversation as usual guys. I recently sold my collection of UHF magazines. The earlier magazines were called Hi Fi Sound. ✌
Great advice, guys!
Thanks guys this was very informative...
Naim 5si + speakers = done for life!
That was a good listening
Thank you for such a lovely informative video and what I noticed is everyone hears and sees audio very differently.
I love the idea of buying your first system and still having it. Never jump on the merry go round and save lots of money and still be happy.
Always a joy to listen to you guys ...
As a starter simple system I would recommend Power Node 2i with quality cables. Allows experimentation with gear and types of music as Blu OS supports so many streaming services.
We have demo unit here - it literally took hundreds of hours to break-in but it did - now sounds very lovely and hints of detail and fineness of subtlety - highly recommended.
@Piyath Everything in degrees - and PowerNode is not audiophile - starting the most simple way is always a good start. The only thing more simple than PowerNode is Pulse. Let's get people populating their lives with good beginner sound gear first.
I really appreciate you two so much. Such seasoned and honest advice. I’ve now watched every episode! I do have a question... i have 2 systems, both Linn. 350 Klimax and 530’s Akurate DSM. I would like a personal system (headphones). Preferably in a room other than where the Linn systems are. I think i have picked the headphones, but with about a $5k budget, am not sure how to allocate. Streamer/dac? Dedicated headphone amp? I’ve never seen you review the headphone space. Would love your thoughts.
We have a future episode on just that - should be lots of laughs...
You guys are great.., but your painting of a hifi sales setting time aside for demos/ plaiting etc.. has never happened in my decade of giving hifi sales my time and $…, as a sale rep myself… I really appreciate their role.. ,
I’ve had plenty spend time on couch with retailers.., but rear ever asked what I like..to listen to.., unfortunately while there have been a few.., they have no longer in my scope..
But I am learning through yourselves and myself.. 😂 and other reviewers..,
Having said that.., I have finally found a great retailer..
Great episode. Can you guys talk about your thoughts on what makes a "good dealer"? I think this is an important topic worthy of your thoughts. What is "good" today may not be what was good years ago. How do we spot a good dealer and as importantly identify a possibly bad dealer before it's too late?
A good dealer knows his stuff, carries a good range of product, and cares about you as a customer. He won’t sell you stuff that doesn’t meet your needs or fit your price range. In exchange, the customer purchases from that dealer.
Who is the one person giving this a thumbs down lol? Great video keep the content coming
It’s jay lol jk
If my memory is correct going back 40+ years, the advantage of a low mass tone arm and high compliance cartridge according to Stereo Review, was to get the tone arm resonance frequency above the warp frequency but below 20hz. Higher than that would have the resonance amplified and sent to the speakers. A high mass tone arm and low compliance cartridge would be well below that, but would be excited by footsteps. No mention was ever made of turntable suspension design and/or isolation.
I can also remember when stereo equipment was sold in appliance stores, who would often sell a thousand dollar system with a $69 BSR changer for the turntable. Those were the days 😊/☹️
For us, it was Lloyd's which was sold in department stores like Simpsons.
Question please: the combination you mentioned of the Hegel H120 integrated amp and the LRS speakers, would it work in a relatively large room with high ceilings? Thanks.
For a new system, can the Hegel H95 stream or only the 120? It’s hard to tell from reading the online descriptions. Will the H95 need a Lumin D2 or Bluesound node?
Villip what's your opinion regarding the focal arias 926 or the aria bookshelf you mentioned? How does it compare with the sonus faber?
Hi guys, I have decided to upgrade my speakers. Decided on Legacy, the Classic HD with a Silverscreen center, replacing Paradigm Prestige 75F. I am in Calgary AB, there are no Legacy dealers anywhere close to audition. Have you heard the Classics? any feedback would be awesome!
We haven't brought in a pair recently but when we did have them in the store, I quite liked them. They sounded a little bit JBL-like in the bass and are fairly easy to drive. Lots of fun and not too fussy. Highly recommended.
Hmmmmm. Got a lot of 'still haves' for you...
Keyboards. Bought a Yamaha CS-60 new in 1979. Guess at what they are going for now? Still have mine, like brand new, been in storage since 1991 a bedroom piece, cost $2400 back n the day...
Korg? Still have the MS-20 and SQ-10 sequencer, bought new in 1978. They too have appreciated substantially! As a pro musician and a KORG guy, I have come up through the days of the Polysix, DW-8000, DSS-1, all bought new...........finally settled on a PAIR of Kronos 73 note workstations. The M1 of course started it ALL for the rest of the keyboard industry
However, after 6 years, the Kronos is still at the top of the workstation game (O:
One more..............STILL have my DUAL 506. Bought it brand new back around 1972, and it is not that far behind my REGA RP6 ! Thanks guys, love what you do (O:
Just bought a 506 - I must really love it - it is going to cost twice budgeted to get it going - oh well, it's only gear.
Budget is the first consideration, but musical genre is also up there. If I were going to your store, I'd say "I listen to mostly classical music. That means instrumental, chamber, orchestral, choral, and opera. I am especially concerned about audio production of big works, like Beethoven's 9th or the Verdi Requiem. What kind of set-up will I need to play these works so everything is transparent from lows to highs? What will I really need to effortlessly blast this stuff so there is no distortion? (If you are playing these works at low levels, you are turning them into background music.) Something tells me that 5000 dollars isn't enough for what I'm asking.
Unfortunately, you're right. No music is more demanding than classical especially the large scale orchestral pieces. Cannon anyone?
@@vilip119 Wow! I'm shocked with this response. I truly enjoy the perspectives and presentation on AEC's CZcams channel. I must also admit that after viewing a good number of your videos, I've come to realize what is my current, and most likely last system, that I'm a "mid-fi". Correct, I won't be able to afford the audiophile gear that you folks sell. However, I am quite pleased with the music I listen to on my lowly system. I'm just retired and in the past two years have put together what is now my "best" system. I love it. It also comes in at the price mentioned by @Richard Sauer. I also love full orchestral recordings - both vinyl and CD. My "mid-fi" system consists of a Rogue Audio Sphinx V3 (a hybrid tube/integrated amp) and it works nicely with Tannoy Revolution XT-8F speakers, along with a Denon CD player, and Fluance TT with Ortofon 2M Red cartridge, along with 'cheap' upgrades in Blue Jeans speaker cables and Audioquest interconnects from CD to amp. If Richard wants to spend $5000 he can find a decent "mid-fi" system. Some of us do have to live on a lowlier budget. Thanks for your excellent presentations.
Thank you very, very much for this video! Next one should be “How to convince your wife to put xyz in the living room...” :)
Lol exactly!
We may need an hour for that one 😂
you've got the wrong wife... lol
But seriously I always hear this, but everyone should have a hobby, I would even say it is healthy and good for your relationship!
You guys are awesome. Can you move down here to Atlanta GA and open up a store?
I‘m sure they would if they knew how to do cell division 😂
I have a pioneer SX 1250 and have made money. It appreciates more than inflation year over year
Looking forward to your video on Shindo Labs amps. Another company to consider is amps by AGD Productions which uses a GaNTube unique in the HiFi world. AGD is a beautiful modern design unlike any other company.
Totally agree that it has to make u happy. But im still having a hard time getting integrated for around 4/5 grand
Whaa!!! Student loan rebudgeting, trying to plan the means by which you'll get the girl you want, possibly settling into a completely new city - WHO has time to perfect it?!?!? Geez just buy one!!
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I just purchased the r600 polk base on reviews and my god was it a mistake I'm returning them.
My bookshelf special 40 just sounds
A million times better.
So I don't understand how this reviewers say good bass,midrange and highs.
I didn't hear any of it.
Ding, ding, ding....
Why I don't see German high end audio like T&A???THEY ARE JUST SO GREAT AS MAC'S OR.......???AND YOU CAN BUY THEM FOR NORMAL... PRICES ON EBAY TODAY!!!
Can you provide an example? Curious to learn more. Thanks.
I’m not so sure I am one to buy things with resale value being much of a criteria in making a choice. That would be very low on my decision making process for just about anything I buy. Just find a balance between your wants and needs. Then discuss it with your other half and she will promptly tell you that you don’t need it. 😂
The other half is a very important consideration. There are some female audiophiles, but not enough.
The key is budget. Figure out what the most you can spend is and then triple it
To get a well sounding system you have to spend at least 20000 dollars. Roughly 1/2 of it on speakers, 1/3 on the amp and 1/6 on the source.
@@musiconvinylisbetter.1449 Ah... You just proved my point. The components have to be connected to each other (cables) . Let's not forget acoustic room treatments (40-50% of the sound).
So yeah, triple what you think it's going to cost. 👍
@@jsmctch yes, here is my tip: Focal kanta 2, Luxman L-505 UXII and Rega planar 8 with Ortofon 2M black. This will sound ok.
@@jsmctch I think you need to invest way over 100000 dollars to get the perfect sound. Really good speakers costs nearly 100000 themself.
@@jsmctch yes, good cables costs around
40000 dollars.
& I have no audiophile friends
Don't worry, viliip is awesome. You can ask him questions....he will help you.