Nice to see nemesis getting coached. One thing I would like to see is for coach to break his mental barrier on micro based heroes like broodmother, lone druid etc
Bruh what, i "played" since 2012 and i still don't wanna learn brood or visage. Arc or bear are easy tbh. It will be omega stressing for neme to play summoner
@@KOTOBODWhat? Visage and Broodmother are way easier to play than Lone and Arc! What do You mean? Like, literally those hero summons you just right click along the hero most of the time.
The real strength of Dota towers is that allies can tp to it without having to rely on a summoner spell slot and a 360 sec cd. But at this elo you pretty much have to beg on mic and ping to hope they would even look at what's happening under tower. Also you can utilize the trees behind most towers to make dives more difficult with line of sight, Zeus can for the most part stay safe that way and clear the wave.
I hope people upvote this advice: Since you are dead really long in this game, just use it as a way to learn. 2 possibilities: 1) Click death summary: See what damaged/killed/healed/saved you. 2) Check enemy/friendly heroes. Read 1-2 abilities and try to understand them. I looooove your gameplay and participation in the dots community man! Keep it up. Don't forget: the Tutorials hold TONS of tricks that make your head spin.
F1 to select courier F2 for quickbuy and F3 for deliver is very standard. When you select courier with F1 it is like selecting a unit you control and you can cast its abilities (speed up and shield) with the default buttons mines w and d.
Sir, are you comfortable with pressing items on yourself with mouse? You can do it with alt+item key instead. Same goes for spells. Also i've seen you struggle with managing illusions. You can just select one and click A on the ground near creeps/neutral camp for it to automatically attack, so you won't need to click on every target. If your illusion is strong enough, you can make it clear several camps with command order (shift button). So you just hold shift and press A on camps you want to farm
Your support is the only one pushing the pace of the game and you have been the one slowing it down constantly. You are always late to fights/objectives while having the strongest catch on your team. Your coil is great way to start fights and you being separate from your team will make them hesitate a lot more. 01:36:45 Your support smoked you (when smoked wards cant see you. It is cancelled when you get near an enemy or auto attack) and instead of looking for a kill you go back to farming. Don't want to flame but just understand that you can slow/speed up the game a lot when you are playing mid.
The spacebar mechanic is just selecting your hero, doubletapping centers screen. So having to select your hero again after selecting courier makes perfect sense?
Nemesis if you have blink dagger you should blink into the enemy use w then use your q in direction towards your base if you just want to poke, it's like a akali combo and hard to react if you do it fast enough
On the one hand, I think it would be cool if Nemesis had some certain questions which could be answered by the coach(e.g. which neutral items are good on this hero by tiers). On the other hand, he just needs better mechanical skills and basic game knowledge, as he just started playing the game. Overall great content, wish to see more coaching with MTD or other high-ranking/pro players
I'm glad you got coached by a decent high mmr player. Unlike tzar potato who peaked legend. I saw one coaching session where he tells a Spirit Hero to play passive and play with his team. That's 100% wrong and i said in his twitch chat that he should spilt push and force enemies tps then force a 5v4 fight. After that I've gotten shutdown by tzar. Of course it was a 1-2 years ago but i hope his coaching improves.
He saw it but decided not to read it completely.... Damn it I'll try to group my thoughts, under the icon of the hero who killed you there is an arrow that will show all sources of damage and can be read if you visit the ability itself
Im surprised he doesnt use Attack and Stop (hotkeys) much. (if at all) But Nemesis has gotten REALLY good in such a short amount of time, im impressed! He just gets lost a bit on what to do on the later stages of the game which is very normal
@@KitsuneFaroe oh I mean like, using it to move this way Or like targeting near the heroes etc he wants to hit and A click instead It can end up being useful Him deying the aegis was hilarious though, brought some particular tournament in mind 😂
Playing and coaching are two different skills, which don't translate fully. It's much harder to coach, then to play the game. You have to connect to person, ponder him thorughly, learn what methods work on him, what he reacts to. Coaching is mostly discussing/explaining and reminding/perfecting details.
Did he deny aegis cause of the "right click to deny" setting that is used to deny creeps ? That's usually off by default. xD might be a bug if u have full inventory or what else ? Imo neme should use A + left click to deny creeps.
No, you can only deny items by explicity issuing an attack command, he used A. There is no need to need for A to deny creeps, honestly why would anyone recommend that? Is old Warcraft tech.
This is like 4 comments in 1 but whatever Honestly just do all the tutorials between queues. It's very easy to miss small important details otherwise. I would mention one thing about support mid roam timers. The most important minutes (for higher level anyway) are: - 4, so as to secure your mid double rune/deny enemy mid rune (very important in bottle vs bottle) - 5-5:30 ish As this is where night time comes in making dives and ganks easier. It also serves as a setup to minute 6 - 6 to secure your mid first power rune - 8, power rune (2 also if you are a psychopath, but usually you should be in lane at that point) What is also frustrating is that support camping mid for up to a minute is not neccesarily bad if it secures the power rune. You will see in pro replays the supports are always mid but at very SPECIFIC minutes. By the way if 2,4,6,8 are the important rune timers, maybe 3,5,7 are where you can go for stacking nearby camp (need expert opinion) maybe on non-bottle heroes you stack at even minutes too? Lastly, even if you might not want to, playing pos 4 (roaming support, the one that usually ganks at rune timers) would make you a better pos 2. Would include understanding when to roam and dive side lanes. Also reversed which is why I need to play pos 2 xdd. In a lane with a lot of interaction (not vs sniper, kotl etc.) it can be important to branch + tango to save time and win big tempo advantage Holy Essay
neme if you love meepo you can start playing arc warden since its more easy. they kinda similar since you can powerfarm map and since its only two units and no changing units from base in to fight etc. like you do in meepo.
Didn't like how he coached you. He didn't even told you about basic mechanics which you should know about playing puck, mid and game in general (like shift commands, turning for blink dagger, etc) Find new one
@@Redotwo42 rune pick up with shift, giving commands to minions to patrol area, controlling courier to pick up items on the ground and sell then, etc At least tell him about this options will expand nemesis's view on amount of options in this game
Nice to see nemesis getting coached. One thing I would like to see is for coach to break his mental barrier on micro based heroes like broodmother, lone druid etc
Yeah I really want to see neme play arc warden
He just lerning macro first
Bruh what, i "played" since 2012 and i still don't wanna learn brood or visage. Arc or bear are easy tbh. It will be omega stressing for neme to play summoner
@@KOTOBODWhat? Visage and Broodmother are way easier to play than Lone and Arc! What do You mean? Like, literally those hero summons you just right click along the hero most of the time.
The real strength of Dota towers is that allies can tp to it without having to rely on a summoner spell slot and a 360 sec cd. But at this elo you pretty much have to beg on mic and ping to hope they would even look at what's happening under tower. Also you can utilize the trees behind most towers to make dives more difficult with line of sight, Zeus can for the most part stay safe that way and clear the wave.
New coach is giving a lot of good gameplay advice!
Feels so different after getting coached by a good guy. Proud to see
Agreed Ranger is a horrible coach
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Great coach! He can teach Neme to finish long games😀
I appreciate the coaching
bro finally fucking learning the basic, coach didnt tell him to sell items on secret sshop though
Nemesis denying their own aegis at 1:45:02 made my day. I laughed so hard hahahahaha
Amazing coach, this guy seems legit
I hope people upvote this advice:
Since you are dead really long in this game, just use it as a way to learn.
2 possibilities:
1) Click death summary: See what damaged/killed/healed/saved you.
2) Check enemy/friendly heroes. Read 1-2 abilities and try to understand them.
I looooove your gameplay and participation in the dots community man! Keep it up.
Don't forget: the Tutorials hold TONS of tricks that make your head spin.
F1 to select courier F2 for quickbuy and F3 for deliver is very standard. When you select courier with F1 it is like selecting a unit you control and you can cast its abilities (speed up and shield) with the default buttons mines w and d.
Coaching starts 42:20
Sir, are you comfortable with pressing items on yourself with mouse? You can do it with alt+item key instead. Same goes for spells.
Also i've seen you struggle with managing illusions. You can just select one and click A on the ground near creeps/neutral camp for it to automatically attack, so you won't need to click on every target. If your illusion is strong enough, you can make it clear several camps with command order (shift button). So you just hold shift and press A on camps you want to farm
Spacebar is the select hero hotkey, that’s why you need to press it after you use the courier
you know keys are not the same for everyone right?
@@MiguelMartinez-ui8nlhe said about nemesis. Nemesis use spacebar for hero select
Yo, u should watch pro match if u have time bro. So u can see how different the pub games and the pro games are.
Mtd was so chill
Your support is the only one pushing the pace of the game and you have been the one slowing it down constantly. You are always late to fights/objectives while having the strongest catch on your team. Your coil is great way to start fights and you being separate from your team will make them hesitate a lot more.
01:36:45 Your support smoked you (when smoked wards cant see you. It is cancelled when you get near an enemy or auto attack) and instead of looking for a kill you go back to farming.
Don't want to flame but just understand that you can slow/speed up the game a lot when you are playing mid.
Best one yet! I don't play this game and never will but i love seeing a lol player learn a diff moba system
The spacebar mechanic is just selecting your hero, doubletapping centers screen. So having to select your hero again after selecting courier makes perfect sense?
Nemesis if you have blink dagger you should blink into the enemy use w then use your q in direction towards your base if you just want to poke, it's like a akali combo and hard to react if you do it fast enough
On the one hand, I think it would be cool if Nemesis had some certain questions which could be answered by the coach(e.g. which neutral items are good on this hero by tiers). On the other hand, he just needs better mechanical skills and basic game knowledge, as he just started playing the game. Overall great content, wish to see more coaching with MTD or other high-ranking/pro players
Haven't played since I retired. Courier keybinds for me were z,x,c etc can't recall which is bound to what action. GL
If I remember correctly, shift-T was amazing for controlling all minions as well.
I love this series a lot i hope our friend shisoy gets Candy as i love him alot
loving the puck gameplay btw nemesis
youre playing puck like you already have 100 games with her
you should get a ranger to coaching
I'm glad you got coached by a decent high mmr player. Unlike tzar potato who peaked legend. I saw one coaching session where he tells a Spirit Hero to play passive and play with his team. That's 100% wrong and i said in his twitch chat that he should spilt push and force enemies tps then force a 5v4 fight. After that I've gotten shutdown by tzar. Of course it was a 1-2 years ago but i hope his coaching improves.
He saw it but decided not to read it completely.... Damn it
I'll try to group my thoughts, under the icon of the hero who killed you there is an arrow that will show all sources of damage and can be read if you visit the ability itself
Timbersaw I think is pretty similar to Yasuo. Timber Players and Yasuo Players also have one thing in common.
01:41:38 the irony....
Im surprised he doesnt use Attack and Stop (hotkeys) much. (if at all)
But Nemesis has gotten REALLY good in such a short amount of time, im impressed!
He just gets lost a bit on what to do on the later stages of the game which is very normal
I mean, you say that when he literally denied the Aegis wich you can only do with an attack command, he does use them.
@@KitsuneFaroe oh I mean like, using it to move this way
Or like targeting near the heroes etc he wants to hit and A click instead
It can end up being useful
Him deying the aegis was hilarious though, brought some particular tournament in mind 😂
Playing and coaching are two different skills, which don't translate fully. It's much harder to coach, then to play the game. You have to connect to person, ponder him thorughly, learn what methods work on him, what he reacts to. Coaching is mostly discussing/explaining and reminding/perfecting details.
Reach out to top dota streamers for a coach collab. They would love the content, and you would love the coaching concepts
i would be nice to see nemesis try broodmother
Did he deny aegis cause of the "right click to deny" setting that is used to deny creeps ? That's usually off by default. xD might be a bug if u have full inventory or what else ? Imo neme should use A + left click to deny creeps.
No, you can only deny items by explicity issuing an attack command, he used A. There is no need to need for A to deny creeps, honestly why would anyone recommend that? Is old Warcraft tech.
ranked game when?
Somebody please tell nemesis to click act 1 of his crownfall event. He's wasting so many free tokens from his games by not going past the first stage.
isn't it because in order to proceed he needs to play a melee hero? he hasn't played one yet
why would he care about crownfall :DD
I don't even play that shit
he doesn't really need one right now and maybe the tokens will expire before he even gets to play rank lol
@@xdplayah Free stuff is always cool, can get free arcana
LETS FUCKNG GOOOO
This is like 4 comments in 1 but whatever
Honestly just do all the tutorials between queues. It's very easy to miss small important details otherwise.
I would mention one thing about support mid roam timers. The most important minutes (for higher level anyway) are:
- 4, so as to secure your mid double rune/deny enemy mid rune (very important in bottle vs bottle)
- 5-5:30 ish As this is where night time comes in making dives and ganks easier. It also serves as a setup to minute 6
- 6 to secure your mid first power rune
- 8, power rune
(2 also if you are a psychopath, but usually you should be in lane at that point)
What is also frustrating is that support camping mid for up to a minute is not neccesarily bad if it secures the power rune. You will see in pro replays the supports are always mid but at very SPECIFIC minutes.
By the way if 2,4,6,8 are the important rune timers, maybe 3,5,7 are where you can go for stacking nearby camp (need expert opinion) maybe on non-bottle heroes you stack at even minutes too?
Lastly, even if you might not want to, playing pos 4 (roaming support, the one that usually ganks at rune timers) would make you a better pos 2. Would include understanding when to roam and dive side lanes. Also reversed which is why I need to play pos 2 xdd.
In a lane with a lot of interaction (not vs sniper, kotl etc.) it can be important to branch + tango to save time and win big tempo advantage
Holy Essay
Nah people are delusional, this guy was a great coach, better than Ranger for sure
Who is mtd?
neme if you love meepo you can start playing arc warden since its more easy. they kinda similar since you can powerfarm map and since its only two units and no changing units from base in to fight etc. like you do in meepo.
sneaky coaching pls
Where Engima 🦧
Poor ranger...
MTD YO
ranger on alt saying in comments new coach sucks pepelaff
Do you realise that MTD and Rangerzx are finnish buddies?
@@Kennrouz it is joke
Thank god not the guy who said : dota come after league, he a joker
Just buy an MMO mouse. You'll have more than enough keybinds closeby at all times.
first :3, PLAY ENIGMA
Neme puck
that sniper is peruvian 100% sure and doesnt spell monstruo correctly, with an n
Cant help but feel Nemesis doesnt enjoy Dota 2 that much but only play because of youtube content.
at this point get Sneaky to coach him.
Ranger > MTD, MTD can't even play Tryndamere
REAL! Ranger clears this random
sry had to edit because i felt mean, mtd is a goat
Ranger is not even a coach
Didn't like how he coached you. He didn't even told you about basic mechanics which you should know about playing puck, mid and game in general (like shift commands, turning for blink dagger, etc)
Find new one
He did tell him about the dagger turning.
He did tell nemesis about turn rate during phase shift. Also shift commands aren't necessary.
he told him about the turning for blink thing at ~1 46 50
@@StefKRah yea, when game ended...
@@Redotwo42 rune pick up with shift, giving commands to minions to patrol area, controlling courier to pick up items on the ground and sell then, etc
At least tell him about this options will expand nemesis's view on amount of options in this game
I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT HE IS SAYING 70% OF THE TIME... SADGE
Maybe you are just not familiar or used to with the "Accent / fast speaking" English but yeah .. I understand it fine tho
your coach is terrible
why ?