BEEP BOOP! EVERY Paradox Pokemon EXPLAINED! 🤖📱Pokémon Violet Edition!
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Pokemon Scarlet and Violet introduced several paradox Pokemon! Pokemon that are supposedly from the ancient past and distant future. Are they really though? And what are they based on? There may not be a lot of lore and history about the future, but we still have plenty of ideas from the present about what the future may hold! This is Every Paradox Pokemon Explained! Violet edition!
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Chapters:
00:00 Future Paradox Pokemon Explained!
02:16 What is Iron Treads
06:33 What is Iron Moth
13:15 What is Iron Hands
17:54 Sponsored by Holzkern!
19:30 What is Iron Jugulis
22:45 What is Iron Bundle
26:21 What is Iron Thorns
35:05 What is Iron Valiant
38:57 What is Iron Leaves
42:25 Why do the Paradox Pokemon all look the same?
There are several questions this video aims to answer:
What are Paradox Pokemon?
What are the paradox pokemon based on?
What is Iron Treads based on?
Are there Alien Pokemon?
What is Iron Moth based on?
Are there Robot Pokemon?
What is Iron Hands based on?
Is there a Cyborg Pokemon?
What is Iron Jugulis based on?
What is Iron Bundle based on?
What is Iron Thorns based on?
Where to find Iron Thorns?
What is Iron Valiant based on?
Is Iron Valiant Gardevoir or Gallade?
What is Iron Leaves based on?
Will there be a Paradox pokemon for the other swords of justice?
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Love the vid, but I’m honestly surprised you didn’t do this one earlier 😅
Where did u get that zamazenta shield
Okay I want to buy Pokemon Scarlet and Violet but then I see the reviews on CZcams and some people say it's a Beautiful mess and other people say if you buy the game you're supporting a bad game so I want your honest opinion what are your thoughts about the Game🔥🌳🌊
I want to protect rockstin with my life
A detail I’ve noticed about Iron Valiant is that its chest is hollow. Since it’s based on Pokémon that are all about emotions, this implies that Iron Valiant has no emotions, being a stone-cold robot and all.
Maybe it still needs to become “a real boy”
That's pretty cool but also kinda sad and messed up
Also, bonus Iron Man reference!
Great observation
Yeah, no wonder it's a "failed creation" according to the theory.
The supposed mad scientist's goal was to make "The strongest Psychic type Pokémon to exist" but he couldn't replicate the core part of the Pokémon that inspired its form, the Ralt's line's whole emotion theme. It's strong and has a fairy type cause that's what makes Gardevoir so strong, and it's got the fighting type since it's designed to be a fighter. It lacks the psychic type however since it cannot replicate the emotion gimmick since it's just a robot that has no will of its own.
Thus this made Iron Valiant seem very cruel and violent but i feel like it's at least very loyal to its master since it's propably programmed to obey whoever owns/catches it.
Also, you know, Iron Valiant is in a way the perfect Pokémon to own. It doesn't get tired, won't question your orders or disobey, is strong.
Some theories I’ve had regarding the Violet Paradox forms
- “Iron” is the company that manufactured them. Lots of companies slap their names on their products, like Apple Watch and whatnot, so that consumers know where they came from.
- Their typings were based on a limited understanding of the distant past (A winged creature with dark plumage? It must be a flying type. A monster with sharp spikes? It must have been part electric. Etc.)
- The reason that they’re smaller than the pokemon that their designs are based on is so that they’re cheeper to make and more transportable.
- They do get kind of “quarky” at night.
But Do I blame them? No! If I was forced to breach space-time in illegal ways and made to keep wandering the same crater for years without breaks, I'd probably get a little quirky too.
So, remember, these Pokémon hold a special place in the hearts of scientists and we need to show them a little respect, right? Okay.
I do like this new way of approaching what "Iron" in their name is suppose to mean. It's very uniform with the future pokemon and with all the things that connect them better than the past pokemon, it does make you think. Be it the substance it's using being this "Iron" or the company making these pokemon, there is a lot more to these pokemon than what people thought.
And their shinies are the rare manufacturing error where the electroplating/painting/other colouring-of-metal process wasn’t performed before shipping!
@@waitingfortheequinnox Or maybe they are the prototypes? The ones that aren't painted over and used as a concept.
My favorite head-canon is that the robot that Hydreigon fell in love with is actually _Magearna_ purely due to the amount of irony that that couple would have.
Truly, a match made in r/stunfisk
@@spindash64 A couple that could truly rival Slowbro and Exeggutor.
That's hilarious lol
That's... kinda cute actually
Fun fact, Miraidon’s Pokédex entry calls it “Iron Serpent”.
And Koraidon is Winged King. Ferromandra and Reyalado in Spanish.
@@sinisternorimaki
Yeah in Italian Koraidon's nickname is Realato (winged king) and Miraidon's nickname is Serpeferrea (iron snake).
One thing I want to point out, is while the future paradox mons are shorter than past paradox, Miraidon is somehow taller than Koraidon.
Miraidon also floats, it could be that?
Or its taking the “massive monster mech” vibe
yeah it is weird that gardevoir and gallade are taller than iron valiant
@@Th3KF4m1ly Maybe it's like an evolution kinda thing, like biological evolution lol; it got smaller because it didn't need the extra body tissues and whatnot to simplify and streamline function?
Technically does tend to get more compact as time passes
I guess to save matiral lol
I chose Violet, Caught the Titan Iron Treads, and named him Autobot
Because he likes to *Roll Out*
That joke is so clever, you are the smartest person on the entire planet.
Named mine Decepticon lmao
Planning on naming mine Yunobo. My Donphan is Darmani, which was technically stolen from Chuggaa’s LP. However, the part about Treads leaving scorched earth is basically what happens when using Yunobo’s power in TotK!
Named mine Grandfather. (As in bayverse Jetfire)
@@roaringthunder115 My Iron Treads stares at your Iron Tread
My Iron Treads: One shall Stand, One shall Fall
I feel like Iron Valiant is also meant to be representative of the 'Evil Robot Double' trope you see in fiction a lot. Built by an evil scientist in the image of two Pokemon that are traditionally meant to be caring and heroic. It has their moves, and despite not having psychic type it DOES learn psychic moves... but it lacks their heart and soul, thus the lack of psychic type. Seriously, it's even built by a mad scientist--Metal Sonic was the first thing that came to mind when I saw its style of LED eyes.
Was about to say "So like Metal Sonic?"
I guess that is pretty cool
So, you're telling me, that Iron Valiant is built to be an efficient, heartless, stone-cold killer that has the power of both Gardevoir and Gallade, but isn't as strong as it intended to be because it's not the original?
@@a_random_lizardIt's stronger than the original form but weaker than Mega-evolved version
This makes sense defensively too, no fear -> no psychic weaknesses
In fact it shrugs off bug and dark like nothing (double resist)
I would also like to point out that Iron Leaves can be viewed as a corruption of justice, as someone created their own sword of justice aka “they made their own justice”.
That is pretty interesting and a cool idea
Now I imagine a Pokémon comic series starring an Iron Leaves as an analogue of Judge Dredd.
Which could signal either peace or destruction.
Frankly, it depends if the system of justice serves all people or just those who financially benefit from enforcing it.
Well, at this point, all three “swords of justice” have a future paradox. Truthfully I think they’re pretty cool. They disagree job with all three, and I feel as though the were able the breathe new life into a trio that a lot of pokemon fans weren’t very excited about.
Of course, the last paradoxes are also very cool in their own way
It's worth noting that Iron Moth's size difference compared to Slither Wing and Volcarona proper is possibly a reference to insects shrinking in size over the course of millions of years due to there being less available oxygen compared to the rich atmosphere of the prehistoric era!
I'd hate to live in the time when they were giant
The atmosphere would kill you before the insects got a chance to find you
@@bigjalapeno7061good thing we came after the dinosaurs and not before then
Nah, with the box legendaries exception, all past paradoxes are bigger than their normal counterparts and all future ones are smaller. Even the Scarlet/Violet book mentions it.
@@sinisternorimaki Yea it's interesting
The knowledge that Iron Bundle is a condensed metaphor for the commercialization of Christmas both makes me like the design more and makes me concerned for the future
It's too late we are in the future already
Christmas and santa clause were made for a coca cola commercial you have nothing to be concerned about
On the other hand the way society seems more self-conscious than ever makes me hopeful for the future
One bit I want to mention:
Iron Valiant and Iron Leaves are both capable of emotion once they are captured within a pokeball. In fact, Iron Valiant takes on it's more supportive and kind traits from Gardevoir and Gallade when it interacts with its trainer.
The trainer's bond is the missing piece it needs to be whole.
The idea of Iron Valiant and Iron Leaves being able to combine into a stronger pokemon does bring to mind a different powerful green psychic type: Calyrex
I thought that as soon as he mentioned Iron Leaves could be a mount
looks like Calyrex will be one of the most broken pokemon out there even in the far future
I have a theory on why Iron Moth is Poison-type.
In the future, the skies were super polluted with poisonous gasses, blocking out the sun, so Volcarona tried to replace it like the Pokédex says but died due to the gas, so they built Iron Moth to do the same thing but with a natural resistance to the poisonous gas.
And now this suddenly sounds like the backstory of the Jetsons of all things.
Volcarona seems like a Pokémon that would give its life to help people.
But then Steel-type would make more sense, due to its outright immunity to poison.
It could also be in reference of how the sun can produce heat and radiation that can be poisonous to life if it reaches large enough quantities.
Yeah I think to me it was just emblematic of pollution affecting the sky’s visibility
I'm surprised you didn't mention RoboCop at all when talking about Iron Hands. The dex entry sounds like the premise to RoboCop almost verbatim; a police officer (athlete) who was gravely injured and rebuilt stronger using advanced technology.
It's funny you mention that because even though I've never seen Robocop my dad told me about it recently
It's also a reference to DC's Cyborg. That's what his backstory was. He was a football player who got into a car accident and got cybernetic implants to save his life.
Maybe because if you remove the cop part, what you're left with is... a extremely generic cyborg trope.
Honestly, I was thinking of the 6 Million Dollar Man.
Past paradox Lockstin is quickly becoming my favourite character in the Lockstinverse
Yea he's funny
What may be of interest in regards to an Iron Valiant's behaviour, is to refer to both Gardevoir and Gallade.
Gardevoir and Gallade both use their Psychic abilities to communicate and sense another's emotions. An empath.
Remove the Psychic typing, and they lose the means to be an empath. They're not driven by another's emotions anymore, driven to protect others because of said emotions. Now, they're killing machines. Made to protect themselves and ruthlessly attack anyone what who may be deemed a threat.
It's rather upsetting.
Also remember that since Gardivoirs can view into the future, it could be that (If this is a future for Pokemon and not just the constructs of a legendary Pokemon turning dreams into reality) this is the future they are seeing. That they will see what will become of them, a cold, violent, and sufficient killer. And that might be why they are so close to their trainers. They know what their fate is, so they want to spend as much time with their trainer and protecting them for as long as possible.
That's an interesting and sad theory
Almost like RoboCop in a way.
No more Red Strings to hold Pinocchio down… yet without them, is he any more free?
Rockstin is quickly becoming one of my favorite characters/people of all CZcams
He's pretty funny
Really? I find it super annoying.
@@zicklane he just is a dork and reminds me of some people i know (well besides intelligence wise)
@@Dead_ES
He’s not even stupid, just… weird
hope he brings back the jug you listen to
Iron Moth being a Poison-type could also reference it being a solar panel thingy and with how toxic/cancerous UV light rays are and how it could possibly utilize that, as well
This thought makes it pretty cool to me now and makes me want to use it
Yea that is a cool idea
For those wondering... The mug disappears because F. Lockstin takes it, then returns it to him later in the video. There is no paradox. The mug has just been brought forward in time. Lockstin doesn't even immediately notice it, which is why he brings it up.
But Lochrome only took it because it went missing in the past
@@Blastosie_Offical that event is exactly what unfolds. He takes it in his past, current present, which means it has been taken in the past, so he takes it.
Which is exactly the paradox. The mug was taken by someone in the future because the mug was taken in the past.
@Tera_Starstorm I'm not sure about it being a paradox though, more of a causality loop. Past Lockstin loses the mug because the most present Lochrome stole it to give to the most present Lockstin, so when Lockstin reveals the absence to Lochrome, he is causally forced to steal it to preserve the loop. Taking something from the past to the future, especially things that are historically "lost" is much less messy than taking something from the future to the past. The example that comes to mind is the authorship paradox of The Song of Storms from Ocarina of Time. Adult Link learns it from the Windmill Man, because he heard it from someone like him a long time ago. Armed with a recently learned song, he returns to the past and plays it for the Windmill Man who had never heard it before, thus Link becoming the person who taught it to him. The song has now become its own grandpa, for ease of explanation.
One future paradox Pokémon I want to see is a Pokémon pulled from a “good future”, where the world is ecologically stable and a tree-like or tree themed Pokémon from the future would be hella cool
I second that motion,
For no reason in particular...
So something like a Paradox Trevenant or a variant of Xurkitree?
I was thinking about this concept after seeing a fan art of a Golurk variant: it has moss growing around it, it’s cracked center where their core would be has a tree branch coming out of it and wrapping around its back, and it’s right arm (our left) is a tree trunk with its roots baring resemblance to his arm. I’d imagine it’s origin is that in a far-future world, a Golurk is blessed with a task to cleanse the Earth of its pollutants, and does so with aplomb. It sits in harmony with the cleaned earth for millennia until it was “brought back” (because remember it’s not a time machine, it’s essentially a wish-granting machine) from the far future to be inspected, though out of all the future paradox pokemon it doesn’t attack, it peacefully leaves to begin cleansing the present world, as in its mind is sees this as another task to fulfill.
Edit: I found the art, it was on newgrounds.
www.newgrounds.com/art/view/dannygre/variant-golurk
This comes out right when I’m making my Iron Valiant cosplay, perfect timing!
Currently making the helmet out of aluminum.
Where can we go to see photos when it's done? This sounds amazing!
@@Rot8erConeX Oh, I’m going with it to a con on the Sixth! Maybe I’ll upload a short or something of it afterwards?
@@Glory2Snowstarawesome
That sounds cool
You mean, Aluminium Valiant?
I'm now imagining a paradox form of Muk made almost entirely out of that mysterious liquid.
The T-1000
Paradox muk i.e Iron Stank
That would be cool
@@PaintedHoundie Mercurial Blight
Like goop from ben 10?
Lochrome coming in clutch and showing how creative these guys can be! Too many people tend to stop at a surface level once they see the future Paradoxes are all robots, but there's much more behind them that is constantly overlooked just because the first impression wasn't the best.
Ikr
Yeah that's the beauty of this channel. Even if I'm not a fan of the design, Lockstin shows how the design itself wasn't thoughtless
I was hoping you would talk about Iron Moth's cute and expressive LCD eyes. It makes me think it's not just an observation drone of some kind, but it's specifically meant to earn the trust of families or children, and observe more closely. It also does the exact thing you mentioned of its wings fitting together into a sun shape during certain attack animations, even moving the wings in front of its body and causing them to glow brighter, as though releasing stored solar energy.
That would be kinda cool but also kinda messed up
I'm curious, is it one specific attack that makes it move the wings in front of its body? I've seen the animations that make it rapidly contract and expand them while still keeping them behind, or flap them to the sides, but never the front one you mentioned. Maybe it's a case like Iron Bundle's where most special attacks make it hold its tail like in the artwork, or scream like its battle intro, while Ice Beam is (afaik) the only one that has it jump up and hover above the tail.
@@bluekirby_64 I'm fairly sure it does that for dazzling gleam, at least. There are likely others, but that's the one that comes to mind.
@@SophisticatedGoat222 Thank you.
Something to note, Buzzwole has the same kind of liquid energy as the future paradox mons so that's something
right? my theory is that the paradox pokemon aren't from the future but from Ultra Space/other realities..maybe pokemon were sucked into the wormholes and the people studied and "perfected" them or even created the paradox pokemon for other uses like Iron Valiant.
I'm pretty sure that's just blood, based on how you can see red through a mosquito's translucent skin.
@@SophisticatedGoat222 It also changes color with the shiny & looks like Bane's Venom
Yea I guess that is pretty interesting
@@strombreakr It actually doesn't, the main body changes colour, but the blood inside remains totally red.
13:40 Android 16 IS an Android. He is made entirely of mechanical parts. He was just made to resemble Dr. Gero's son. He isn't a Cyborg (The other ones are though).
Iron Moth always reminded me of the idea of a Dyson Sphere, a bunch of orbiting solar panels around the sun that a more advanced civilization may be able to harness
That is kind of a cool idea
Yeah, that is the theory that makes the most sense. Fire because it is heat resistant, poison because it is radiation resistant, and it keeps the strong relation with the sun that volcarona has. Plus still refering to a bug type because the group of satelites forming the Dyson sphere are called Dyson SWARM (at least in spanish, idk if it is like that in english).
I think you missed that Iron Leaves’ run animation is inspired by real-life quadrupedal robot movement, which move in roughly the same way
I actually like the future paradox mons and how they contrast well with the past paradox mons. If they focused more on speculative evolution or nuclear mutations, I feel like they would have been seen as too similar to the latter.
As someone who picked Violet and needs to justify the purchase, I wholeheartedly agree
True
They are mutations
The future forms are cyborgs not robots similar to armored mewtwo but the enhancements became permanent part of their physiology cuz if they were robots they’d all be pure electric and/or steel oe dual typed but they don’t they all retain at least one of their original types meaning that it’s lineage/biology is still part of it deep down
either they did it to themselves or humans did it as a way to either act inhumanely or as a way to preserve them
I think they all just overtime just became cyborgs down the line without going extinct maybe endangered or a way to keep them from being endangered
Or just a way to advance evolution in a selfish way
The reason the lore calls them robots is because they don’t know much about them so all the modern day people are doing is assuming
For sandy shocks my guess is that it used to look like a regular Pokémon but adapted to being exposed to some sort of ancient form of metal
Sort of like Pokémon’s version of vibranium and then overtime became sandy shocks and then the magnemite line
The metal could have come from space explaining why magnezone resembles a UFO
They weren’t named by the people of the future and past they were named by the people of present day who don’t know anything about them and just came up with something to describe them
It’s no different than how we name newly discovered fossils
You aren't entirely wrong but they should have done more unique robots instead of just here is the pokemon that is metallic and cyber-like. For example I like what they did with iron hands where yes it was basically just cyber hariyama but the floating hands with a slight defibrillator theming made it more like a pokemon integrated with technology and then utilized in a future society. Almost like speculative technoevolution not true evolution. They should have leaned in on that more to separate the future paradoxes apart more while still maintaining a consistent design aesthetic. just my thoughts
@@raysay1818 And how would you do so with, say, Tyranitar or Hydreigon?.
Part of me REALLY feels like Occulture is playing a bigger part in this Paradox Pokemon phenomenon than we might currently know.
Also, wild query, but if the red of Scarlet depicts the far past and the purple of Violet the far future, then what about the green of Teal and the blue of Indigo? Maybe closer to the near past (green) and perhaps the present (blue)?
I heard long ago a theory that said all Future Paradox also has some type of energy in their inspirations like:
Iron Moth - Solar or Chemical
iron Thorns - Nuclear
iron Bundle - Hydraulic
iron Hands - Electric or Magnetic
Iron Leaves - Aeolic
Iron Threads - Motion
Iron Valiant - Maybe life energy? probably Mechanical only because they use a weapon
Ok so 2 things
1.I always thought that Iron Hands is supposed to be electric energy since it has the defibrillator hands and has the most yellow out of all future paradoxes(though maybe its just because it's a Hariyama)
2.The dex entries for Ralts states that it warms up when feeling the emotions of others and Kirlia,alongside Gardevoir, get their psychokinetic abilities enchanced when in the presence of people with strong positive emotions. Gallade being much more about physical fighting can also use these powers to his advantage as he is capable of sensing the thoughts of opponents, predicting their moves ahead of time. So maybe Valiant is "mental" energy? Like the aliens in Skyline who are powered by human brains?
@@youwotboi9288 "mental energy" I think isn't a real type of energy
@@henrydrago yeah, fair point.But, you know, neither is psychokinesis so this is basically just theory crafting on my part.
Iron Valiant is chaos energy. I mean, put them and Metal Sonic side by side.
I think Iron Bundle/Mecha Delibird is probably also a reference to Doraemon. Doraemon also has a 4D Pocket that he can pull a bunch of gadgets from, kind of like a futuristic bag of toys from Santa.
That's a cool idea, actually. Not sure how much merit it has, but it's very possible.
My own personal theory on the "iron" in the names and whatever energy the Future Pokémon run on is that it's Iron from the cores of stars and that the Quark Drive ability seems to mean they run on quark gluon plasma. This is further proven by Miraidon's Hadron Engine as when the plasma hadronizes you get a reaction that produces matter and antimatter which when they annihilate each other produces a huge amount of energy.
Although I'm more curious as to how this fuel source works on Ancient Pokémon via the Booster Energy.
Iron Moth's fire/poison type could also be explained by it being a futuristic Volcarona. Volcarona is a substitute sun, the pokedex mentions that if the sun is being blocked a Volcarona can temporarily take its place by flying into the sky and producing flames from its wings. Iron Moth is an artificial substitute sun, with that in mind it's possible it is conducting thermonuclear fusion in its wings. The plasma produced is represented by the fire type and the radiation it produces is represented by the poison type.
Idk if it’s been mentioned in the video because I’m only half listening but I just wanna say that creating the perfect psychic type has been a theme in Pokémon for a LONG while
Well, trying to make the perfect pokemon in general. Mewtwo, Genesect, Type null and Silvally, all of the Mega pokemon, there is a lot of artificial pokemon enhanced by people going on.
The 'Iron Energy' (mentioned at 44:46) is probably just man-made or rather a refined version of Booster Energy. The Held Item that the Paradox Pokemon hold. As they drain Booster Energy's for... well a boost, similar to how machine's would run off of a battery. BUT, the reason why I say 'man-made' is because Past Paradox Pokemon can also use Booster Energy, but instead of doing this through electricity, they do this through photosynthesis... or well Protosynthesis, but you get the idea.
My simple hypothesis is that Booster Energy is basically a sort of super-solar energy that was once very common across the planet or at least where/when Past-Paradoxs where around, and was eventually lost due to time. But some scientist in the future was able to find and integrate this Booster Energy into the Iron Line of Paradoxs. I mostly like this idea, because it not only has parallels to things like fossil fuels, but because Booster Energy is just the weird thing that no one really talks about when talking about the Paradoxs.
If only SOMEONE would do a video about it...
That I can see. And might be what ties into both paradox pokemon AND the Legendaries. This booster energy being some kind of power source, or a type of energy that brings out the full capabilities of the paradox pokemon. The past involves sunlight and solar power since the ancient past has a lot more sun, at least in depictions of the past. And the future, it's this new super advanced liquid that acts like an electrical power source. Something the future depicts being a regular thing as oil or gas.
And that explains why they get this boost with their field effects. Sunny Day and the intense sunlight powers the past pokemon without this item, along with the electrical terrain doing the same for the future ones. But that also means Koraidon and Miradon are special. And why they are legendaries. They are beings that are self sufficient. No need for those items, they can MAKE their own field effect, making them always at 100%. They are anomalies that are always at their peak performance, which is something other paradox pokemon don't have.
@jacobfoxfires9647 And maybe as it evolved into Cyclizar, the Koraidon line lost that power, but upon rediscovering it, scientists try to re-engineer it into them, causing the mutation into early Miraidon versions that again become self-sustaining as that dormant gene reawakens and they evolve further.
Heres an interesting idea:
Could the Tera crystals and Terapagos be related to the Anomalies from Primeval?
Could Terapagos be an Ultra Beast? Jk
God that was a good show, at least most of the time...
@@DJDarkDarsi so,what do you think?
Or is there a connection between the Area Zero time machine and the Opelucid city time experiment?
The what now
What I like about the Future Paradoxes is not that they are robots (that is kinda lame xD), but the idea of What exactly pushed humans to even build these robotic Pokemon. What sort of future gives birth to these "creatures"? And that thought is interesting... and scary D:
Because they arent actually from the future
terapagos birthed them
Maybe they come from a future where Plasma (think of Genesect) or Rocket (with their Mewtwo and more, Mecha Mewtwo) took over. Aether themselves made an artificial pokemon out of what seems to be a mix of mechanical and organic bits.
@@gustavju4686 Given the notion of synthetic's and metamorphosis are how we get things like Silvally, that isn't too far fetched to think about. And the funny thing about Silvally is that it was intended to imitate Arceus.
Maybe they arent real
I heard one theory saying that they were built to try to replace species that were going extinct
I think the future paradoxes are similar because of standardization/uniformization. Like I know technically all individuals of a Pokémon species look the same because of game limitations, but I imagine the past paradoxes would have a lot of individual differences, while the future paradoxes would have barely any (one rare anomaly of a shiny when the painting machine ran out of ink). Just a clean design copy pasted over and over.
Actually it's possible to check the size of a Pokemon in S/V, right? Can they have different sizes?
If that's the actual reason for the future paradoxes, that's kinda sad... an actual monotonic dystopian future. Kinda like the simplification of logos and website designs...
Yes, Pokémon can vary between 80%-120% of their average size.
About Mega Tyranitar and those spines, have you ever noticed how Tyranitar's body looks Exactly like Pupitar grew a rocky outer body around itself reminiscent of its former Larval self? Anyone ever think maybe the Larvitar hasn't actually escaped the Pupal stage just grew a whole new ambulatory shell around its original pupal shell? >.>
Maybe. That could be interesting
Iron Jugulis not revisiting Hydreigon’s original incarnation as a tank is a crime tbh. I get that Iron Treads is the war machine but man, it’s such a missed opportunity.
Another idea would be to take the Germanic name and double down with THIS monstrosity: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Triebflügel
Don’t do meth, kids… anyway, this was a concept for a 3, rotary winged aircraft somewhere between a plane and a helicopter, using wingtip turbojets. Germany had no real capacity to build it, but it looks absurd and scifi, so I think that’s good enough.
Imagine a Hydreigon with each small head ON the wings, and having them spin around like a propeller
Unpopular opinion: I actually like the future Paradox Pokémon more than the past versions, although I do like the past ones as well. If you couldn't tell, Iron Valiant is my favourite of them all.
I agree but Iron moth is my favorite I do love valiant since FUSION but also sun bug is better
I agree so much.
I like to say that the past paradoxes are good all around, but the future ones are different, I think there are more of them that are bad (stares violently at iron jugulis) and the good ones are REALLY good, like iron valiant
It is a war crime not to chose Iron Valiant as the objectively best paradox mon
Iron valiant is my favorite too
It seems to me that the future paradox pokemon have an underlying theme of futuristic warfare and spionage going on. So, maybe there's some kind of war in the future?
I also think Iron bundle may be based on the idea of ooparts (out of place artifacts), basically, it's an object that is found as part of a past civilization that due to its design or properties that resemble more advanced technology seems to belong to a future era without a concrete explanation. But this one indeed comes from the future and somehow ended in the past (maybe because certain professor used a time machine to send pokemon to other era). Which is essentially what created the paradox that brought those pokemon to present time (the professors got obsessed with the creatures from the scarlet/violet book, created a time machine, brought the paradox pokemon to the present and then traveled to their desired eras at the end of the game and they made sure to send some pokemon to Heath's era for the scarlet/violet book to be created in the first place in order for them to get obsessed with them and create the time machine (creating the entire time loop and maybe accidentally sending one Iron bundle way too far into the past). Basically, it's a bootstrap paradox.
Yea that's a cool theory. I was confused about it saying that Iron Bundle was ancient
When you said ooparts I instantaneously though about megaman starforce 2 cuz you have to collect the 3 ooparts from the lost continent of Mu... And Tbh your theory is good enough for me... Time travel is tricky to work with.
Haven't heard the phrase "OOParts" since the Megaman Starforce days
@@Caxe15 I've never heard of it. What does it mean
@@bigjalapeno7061 in Megaman Starforce 2, the central theme of the game was the mysterious continent of Mu, and the fact that across the world, certain Out Of Place Artifacts(OOPArts) had been scattered about, and it was up to the player to collect them
One thing I love about Lockstin’s Analysis videos is that he goes so in depth that it helps give a new found appreciation for the designs or makes me love the mons in question even more!
0:42 when he said "futuristic sci-fi post apocalypse" I immediately thought of Virus Groudon this could be a good way to bring him into the games and canon
These are becoming equal parts entertaining and informative. Laughed and learned a lot. Please keep past and future guys as cameos!
My theory for the future forms is that they are cybernetic recreations of modern day mons.
That's why they are so similar, because they are made to be like the original.
I noticed how it was said that Iron Hands was possibly the only Future Paradox that had organic parts
But given how Miraidon somehow had DNA, as stated by AI Turo, I think that may not be the case (edit: silly me, pausing just before they talk about Jugulis lol)
But also, I'm just pleased that Lockstin's doing a Future Paradox video, aince they're my favorite Paradoxes haha
Sounds more like these pokemon arent cyborgs but rather their genetic material has become metallic by nature, a natural state of Phyresis without the need for infectious tumors and oil.
@@xaldrortenderofthevats8948 Iron Bundel's long neck might be a reverse reference to how pinguins actually have long legs like owls. Also, I like how Pokémon tend to imitate human made objects. Maybe the reason the future Paradox Pokémon have that hollow echo to their cries have something to do with your theory & they lost the need for most of their old body functions.
I've always loved Gardevoir and Gallade (NOT for the Rule 34 reason), and after learning about a fusion of the two whilst also being an awesome robot, it quickly became my favourite Pokemon. The dual halberd is an amazing futuristic extension of Gallade's own blades, and the unique typing is just a cool lore idea, with it being both Gardevoir and Gallade, but failed Psychic type.
I also loved Iron Leaves' design as well, as I love the entire Swords of Justice. So, I was glad to know that a Virizion Paradox form was in Violet. And this video, explaining how the two could be connected with their switched typings, just solidified my love for them.
I was so happy when I saw Rockstin... I was starting to miss him!! I'm also so hyped for the Paradox Pokémon creation explained video whenever it comes out...
As much as people say its unoriginal, but I happen to like the uniform chrome shinies, in large part because the cause those starry liquid energy... things to pop out more. Really gives the impression that they're meant to be important for something.
Never noticed until the end of the episode when they talk about the shiny portions of the Pokémon, but I do love how each of them has a different color to them.
Each of the glowing colors on the Future Paradoxes matches one of the types that Paradox has. *Usually* the type it doesn't share with its non-Paradox counterpart, but not always (Iron Moth).
@@Rot8erConeX Yeah, some don.t work at all with that though. When I noticed it, I thought it was a perfect 1 to 1 for the ROY G. BIV color spectrum since there were originally 7 of them, but it just barely doesn't.
Excellent analysis!
also glad to see Bakugan being alluded to at 15:21
4:30 Best Part of the Video.
"It can recognize every grandma but it consciencesly decides on whether it will avoid them or not."
Hi, once again I'm here to explain German Pokémon Names, this time it's about the future Paradox Pokémon of course. I also did this for the past Paradox Pokémon in the comments of their dedicated video. But first, there are some things that were pointed out in the replies and I want to adress them here.
First: "Windewoge", the German name for Walking Wake may come from "Winde" which can mean a few different things, but in this sense it's the plural of "Wind", which literally the German word for wind. Also, I have been informed that I didn't mention Koraidon's title, as it is called the "Winged King" in the English translation. In the German Version it's title is known as "Schwingenkönig", which, literally translated, means "Wingking". (Schwinge = wing, König = king)
One last thing I start: The German names for these Pokémon all have "Eisen" before their name, which literally means iron.
So, without furderado, let's go over the future Paradox Pokémon.
Iron Treads is called "Eisenrad" in German and literally means "Iron Wheel". The word "Rad" mostly refers to wheels but can also be used to refer to a bicycle.
Next up is Iron Moth and it's German name is "Eisenfalter". "Falter" is a word that can refer to butterflies and moths alike, even though there are two sperate words for them. So, "Eisenfalter" literally means "Iron Moth" in this exact context.
Iron Hands is next and it's German name is the most similiar to the English name and very straight forward. In German, this Pokémon is called "Eisenhand" and it literally means "Iron Hand".
Then there is Iron Jugulis and I must say, "jugulis" is a weird word. In German, we call this Paradox Pokémon "Eisenhals". "Hals" is a very common word an means "throat" or "neck". So this name translates to "Iron Throat" or "Iron Neck".
Just like "Eisenhand", the German name for Iron Bundle is very close to it's Englisch version. We call it "Eisenbündel". A "Bündel" literally means "bundle", so that's very straight forward. But I guess this is a good point to bring up some letters, that are not used in the English language: ä, ö and ü. In the past Paradox Pokémon explanation I told you about the ß and explained it. These three letters are a bit harder to explain though. The 'ä' is pronounced like the 'a' in "tan" and the 'ö' would be pronounced like the 'o' in "word". For the 'ü' I couldn't find a word that makes this exact sound. But you can try to say 'wit' but "round your lips as if whistling" as the Internet told me is how you do it.
But enough about that. The next Pokémon is Iron Thorns and we call it "Eisendorn" in German with "Dorn" meaning "thorn". So "Iron Thorn" is the literal translation.
Iron Valiant's German name is "Eisenrkieger". The word "Krieger" means Warrior, so it translates to "Iron Warrior". Very straight forward.
As I am writing this, i realize how many Names a almost identical when translated. Iron Leaves is called "Eisenblatt" in German, which literally Translated means "Iron Leaf" with "Blatt" being the german word for "leaf".
And now, the last one. Miraidon is known as the "Iron Serpent" and the German version of this title is "Eisenschlange", which means "Iron Snake" or "Iron Serpant". Once again, very similar. "Schlange" means "serpent" or "snake". But the word can also mean "line", like in a waiting line for example. This has nothing to do with this Pokémon, but I just wanted to point that out.
And that's it for today. I hope I did leave nothing out and that you enjoyed this, even though it's a lot of text. Once again, I want to thank all of you for reading. This is always a lot of fun, espacially reading your replies, so feel free to share your thoughts and even talk about your own language. See you guys next time!
My theory is that Iron Treads isn’t actually a paradox form of Donphan due to its different face, and proportions. I think this is because it’s a paradox form of a future evolution of Donphan, one that we haven’t seen yet, one that evolved to be even better at rolling which explains why Iron Treads is shaped so differently. This seems more likely since in the Titan battle Great Tusk goes “DON PHAND” thus Donphan, but Iron Treads goes “WHIRRR DONN” maybe eluding to it not being Donphan
The reason it could be referred to as Donphan is because that’s the closest thing it looks like without being the exact creature. In fact we’ve seen a similar thing in BDSP and Legends Arceus. The story of Manaphy book includes a “Qwilfish with large spikes” which turned out to be an Overqwil, a pokemon that wasn’t released yet. What if the Violet book does the same thing with Iron Treads?
I mean it’s literally shaped exactly like donphan so I doubt it
@@Grungus37 Not really, Iron Treads is way more spherical and has smaller legs
I don't think the text version of the pokemon cries are really anything to go off of. If we did that then almost every legendary would actually be "GYAAAGGghhhgaghhgGHGUYGFSSShUUUUEeeee"
@@raysay1818 and when interacting with regirock. The text box would say. "ÜÑ ÜÑ ÜÑ"
@@raysay1818 Yeah, you’re right but I just think that the fact they made Great Tusk literally say Donphan while Iron Treads doesn’t is a little interesting. It sounds a lot like “Whirldon” which would be a solid name for a Donphan evo
I think the secret to paradox comes from the iron juggulis idea. What if all paradox Pokémon are the results of time traveling Pokémon. Roaring moon is a descendant of Salamanca but also it’s ancestor creating a Bootstrap paradox. Iron bundle is the first attempt at creating a robot copy/mate/baby of a time traveling delibird. The result of which is kind of failed. An ancient attempt if you will. We don’t know how much time passes between each attempt at a new paradox mon.
Pokémon appears to subscribe to the multiverse theory of time travel.
The entire skit with rockston at 28:17 being scared of the video card made me actually notice it where I would never do before.
One detail I like is how all the scarlet paradoxes are larger than their original counterparts (referencing ‘dire beasts’ and other large prehistoric versions of modern-day animals like wolves, bears or sloths), while Violet paradoxes (barring Miraidon obvi) are all smaller, referencing technology becoming more streamlined and compact
Also the killer sci-fi robot aesthetic rules and I’m glad they didn’t clutter the theming up too much with going for too many interpretations of ‘futuristic’, it’s what holds the scarlet paradoxes back with their lack of thematic cohesion
Still I think the Paradox Pokémon are just fictional creations from the Scarlet/Violet books.
That explains why the designs are so basic (past= dinosaur, future= robot) and how Heath could see the Paradox mons 200 years before the "Time Travel" machine even was invented.
And this isn't a *_GAAAME THEORY_* but the game itself points out to that question.
The Paradox Pokemon seen by Heath’s team also looked different from the ones brought over by Sada/Turo. Like Great Tusk having longer back spines and claws, and Iron Treads having real legs instead of the stubby folding ones.
@@oyeh8908 Maybe the ones that Heath's team saw were Paradox Pokémon that were constantly exposed to the Tera crystal's energy (Maybe even brought over by a surplus of tera energy when Terapagos landed on the planet). This would explain why the ones brought over through the Time Machine looked different. People forget that Terapagos maybe from space.
@@oyeh8908yet we don't see them.
@@maravreloaded We kinda do. There are actual photographs of the Donphan Paradoxes in the Scarlet and Violet books.
Great Tusk is shown with tall, long spines in 2 rows. The ones we see in the modern day have shorter spines in 3 rows.
There's also a picture of Iron Treads but it's impossible to compare because the foliage obscures its legs.
Lockstin called moth larvae "worms" so confidently that I had to double check that they're called caterpillars
Yea. Same things that turn into butterflies. Just different types of them
14:20
When Lachrome said the robots of his time boxed, I IMMEDIATELY thought of 'Real Steel'
As a kid, I loved it and still do; Noisy Boy was my favorite in terms of design & potential. I wished we got to see him more instead of letting him be a punching bag for Midas.
I mean 14:40
been looking forward to this one! awesome video as usual dude. also I LOVE that you compared it to the unknown at the end, I had that thought too honestly.
I am impressed that you managed to make such a long material from future paradoxes😅
I always thought of iron bundle as a fire extinguishing robot. Its red, water type, and the bundle in it's name could be where it stores water to shoot at the fire. Its head coming off could allow it to reach higher and spray the water from its beak. I know it's a silly theory, but i still believe it
another really interesting inspiration for Iron Valiant is the result of magnum opus in alquemy, the Rebis, a being beyond gender that is pictured on top of a dragon, that explains why it is the fusion beetween gallade and gardevoir and keeps the fairy type, since it is stronger than a dragon, that also gives an interesting fact if you compare Iron Valiant to its counterpart, Roaring Moon, because Iron Valiant obviously beats the crap of it. I think this works because in game it is said that the inventor of Iron Valiant was trying to create the perfect psyquic mon and Rebis is represented as the perfect being
Is it wrong that I love all 6 versions of Lockstin and Gnoggin in this vid and have rewatched the little skits in the middle 5 times each?
Just in time to listen to at work!!! Love your videos, keep it up!!!
My favorite is Iron Jugulis simply because I love the pretty colors given to “new Hydregion.”
I love the gimmick and commitement of past, present and future lockstin. it speaks to my theater kid. Iron Valiant is my favorite of the future paradox mon.
The music is always so good and fitting, you've gotta give me your playlist.
You know I did think that this would be an interesting idea for their naming convention where instead of just using iron use other metals / alloys / minerals like titanium, copper, gold, silver, & more or technology / scientific terms like atomic
God I just love how passionate you are about pokemon. Love your videos
i always love your little skits you do with all of your vids, thanks for always givin' me a lil giggle!
Been here since 20k, so glad to see your growth dude!
My mind is blown *AGAIN* with how deep each one of these Paradox Pokemon actually are! I hope some of your theories prove true in the DLC.
I love all the effort put into the videos. Also I feel some of the future forms are underrated. Plus the dream theory makes more sense the actual being past vs future.
Yea it's cool how he goes out of his why to find a bunch of obscure stuff
It definitely helped me to appreciate the furure paradoxes more. Though it would now be interesting to know wether these things were actually the inspirations for the paradox mons or if it's all just interpretation and Gamefreak just thought "make it a robot" every time, which is what most of us initially assumed.
Especially Iron Jugulis' backround makes more sense to me now, as I thought it would be dumb even for Pokémon standarts for something new to emerge just because a biological creature humped a machine. But then I got reminded of the existance of nanobots and thought that it's kinda neat after all.
@@vermillion6159honestly I recommend tales of karmin videos he also does so good analysis on the gen 9 Pokémon
Rockstin crying out in terror of the dangers from the future is how I was in my play through of Violet because I to know that the outside world is a scary and dangerous place
Amazing production quality as always!!
I love past and future Lockstin so much😂
Wasn’t Hydreigon’s beta design going to be a tank? Its design still has the red tread marks.
Maybe they made up for the lost design by making Iron Treads and Jugulis
Fun Fact about your comment on Iron Leaves being a vehicle, which relates to a meme calling it a "All Terrain Vehicle"
Iron Leaves is, almost literally, an "All terrain" mon
Due to it's combination of Grass/Psychic + Quark Drive, it synergizes well with Grassy, Psychic, and Electric Terrain.
Grassy boosts its Grass moves by 30% and heals it.
Psychic boosts its Psychic moves by 30% and protects from Priorities.
Electric activates its Ability and also boosts it's Signature Move Psyblade.
It's only missing Misty Terrain, but even then it still welcomes the buffs granted (-50% from Dragon, protects from non volatile status effects)
I love robots and these Future Paradox Pokemon are totally my favorites. Shiny hunted all of them myself! 😊
Also loved the soundtrack to this video! Great work Rockstin, Lockstin, and LoChrome! 👏👏👏
I have a theory that the bright liquid in the future paradox mons is the remains of the original pokemons after being pulped and poured into artificial bodies that are similar to their previous ones.
That's really messed up but also kinda interesting
I can turn mine off, though... what would that imply, based on your theory?
@@miraidongaming
That despite the pokemon being turn to liquid they are still alive, kinda like the insides of a insect pupa and when the liquid doesn't glow they are either in low energy or sleeping.
@@eduardogiraldez5471 Iron Treads must be having fun...
The future paradox Pokémon are just so cool in motion. As a jpg I can understand finding them plain but they had so much detail put into the mechanics of their movements
Someone finally says it!
Very much so. The animations for the future paradoxes are honestly significantly better than past ones. Iron Juglius turning off its entire body (revealing that's it's basically a platform composed of LED displays) and also talking to its other two heads, Iron Bundle's springy head, Iron Moth's extremely expressive eyes, etc.
I absolutely agree with the descriptor of “impostor” when it comes to the future paradoxes. They really don’t feel like Pokémon, they feel like imitations that replaced the original Pokémon.
I heard one theory that they were built to replace Pokemon that went extinct, which I found sad and interesting
Hey...
This is one of lockstin's finest video yet. I like the when youtubers make varients of themself especially the future varient. It would be pretty cool if this video hits #1 on youtube
A cave man calling Freddy Fazbear "Freddy Five Night" is the comedic gold I'm here for, that one got me
Clicked faster than Usain Bolt
fr, a title like beep boop is too hard to pass up
Usain Bolt is a runner which does not effect his ability to click any faster than a normal human
@@-_-thisnameiscreativeasfuc4734 ok nerd
The Violet paradoxes are so much more interesting than “jigglypuff with a haircut” or “misdreavus messed up its mascara”
“That’s the price of a Big Mac in my time” quacking in anticipation of even further crippling inflation
Who here loves Iron Jugulis as much as I do? He my favorite.
Same
Not my *favorite,* but definitely underappreciated.
I had always figured that the Future Paradox Pokémon were essentially mass produced man made Pokémon, implying a sort of cyberpunk capitalist dystopia in the future. It would explain why all of them are made of the same material, have the same look, and why they all have "iron" in the name. It's almost like they're part of a series of mass produced toys, like "get excited about the newest member of the Pokémon Iron Collection, introducing Iron Hands." It would also explain why, for example, Iron Bundle is like a cheaply made Christmas toy, like it was a hastily put together addition to the series for people to buy for the holidays. Maybe the shiny forms are ones that never got painted but managed to get activated or bought anyway, which is why they're rare.
Heath's team named them.
"me be talk of town if had". I laughed for a solid minute. I LOVE Rockstin haha
Damn it, that Jug-You-Listen-To bit made me laugh harder than it should. So did the Gardevoir bit.
I don't know if it's covered in this video or not, but Iron Moth's Poison Type MAY also come from the ozone layer, and how ozone rays tend to be rather hazardous without it, so Iron Moth is pretty much the sunburn/skin cancer Pokémon, thus tying back to the sun motif it has, thus also justifying the fire typing ONCE AGAIN XP
I figured it was in reference to smog. The Solar panels means it has to go above the smog layer to get sunlight, but because it's sitting up there it's toxic as well for the same reason acid rain exists.
I love the future Pokémon even tho they are just robots I still very much like them and it made useless delibird into a powerhouse😂
I caught a bunch of Iron Bundles, named them Bert and wonder traded them
Yeah, Iron Bundle is a bit of a pain on Showdown...
This is the best one I've watched from your channel
Your Characters Past and Future keeps my day even Better