Well the thing is the classical Pinocchio did have his issues and this movie had a shot at solving or changing them maybe making his story more relatable for Gen Z kids, the thing is the classical Pinocchio was made in the 1940´s and back then no one cared much about the politically correct back then so it had those unnecessary scenes with kids smoking and drinking, some racist references and even child mistreatment, now this new live-action is another product of Disney being way too politically correct so they had root beer and candy instead of beer and cigars, they added Fabiana so there would be someone in that marionette show for us to sympathize with and they made Pinocchio a good boy from the start and all his mistakes weren´t his fault, he was a victim of the conditions.
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 They we’re not unnecessary scenes. Pinocchio has always been a morality tale, the drinking and smoking were there to teach children. What NOT to do. This movie completely misses the point and has the children punished basically for drinking soda and sweets.
Lmao you’re right. It’s a take straight from the garbage bin. Because it’s still bad, even if it needs to compete with movies just as bad as the Pinocchio remake. It’s still gonna be straight garbage. It’s just like when people started getting all sentimental about how much they ACTUALLY liked the Star Wars prequels that they used to hate because of how bad the sequels were. Doesn’t take away from how bad such movies are still.
Exactly! Disney seems so afraid of anything that can make their main characters unlikable, even if that is meant to be the point of the character. In the original, Pinocchio needed to learn to be a good person in order to prove he was worthy of being a real boy, and along the way he makes a bunch of honest mistakes that are typical of young boys, and he learns from them. But in the remake, Pinocchio is a good person from the start, it's just that bad people keep taking advantage of him until he arbitrarily becomes a real boy for no real reason. Even during Pleasure Island, Pinocchio isn't having fun, he looks and acts like he's been held there against his will, which was not at all the point of that scene. Even the freakin' nose-growing scene -- the one thing people most associate with the character -- is re-framed so that Pinocchio is lying "for a good reason," which again misses the entire point.
Pinocchio is about a marionette being given a soul, who learns from his mistakes and becomes a real boy. Disney sucked out all the soul from this story and is unwilling to learn from it's mistakes.
It's like Disney didn't actually make Pinocchio a real boy in the 2022 at all. He's so soulless in this that I'm not convinced that there isn't someone operating invisible strings on him, that's not a compliment the character just looks that bad
Disney: *Makes 101 Dalmatians, arguably one of the best live action remakes in the lineup using trained animals* Also Disney: *uses cgi cat for a pet**
I've been saying that Pinocchio is a morality tale that had its moral complications and conflicts removed, making it pointless and yea, it's still true. As far as I'm concerned the 1940s Disney Pinocchio is the only Disney version that exists.
I was more excited for that than for this, honestly. I can’t wait, I’m such a sucker for stop motion films, and Pinocchio is literally PERFECT for it, omg
Actually the nose thing only appears in the original film once, too. It wasn't a core part of his character, it only happened once when the fairy was trying to make a point to him about the issue with lying.
the scene where Pinocchio stumbled upon some horse poo on his way walking to school, sniffs it and tries to touch it was how i felt about this Disney remake, its shit, I don't know how Pinocchio turned into a donkey, he never engaged in any naughty behavior like drinking root beer, or breaking cuckoo clocks, it felt like he was abducted and forced to go to pleasure island, where in the original he is manipulated into going to pleasure island and he engages in misbehavior
I will give this Pinocchio one thing I absolutely lost my shit when Stromboli threw Pinocchio like a football, point blank into the cage with the funniest hard cut I've seen. It went from him holding Pinocchio to immediately him throwing Pinocchio into the cage. No build up or him walking up to the cage to do, just hard cut to him throwing. It was so funny
@@sofiantz2142 In the original, Stromboli was praising Pinocchio and said that they'd both make money, but Pinocchio says he has to return home to his father so he starts to leave. Stromboli gets mad at Pinocchio for thinking he can just leave whenever he wants. So he catches him as he's leaving, carries him over to the cage, tosses him in, and locks it up. In the remake, Stromboli lures Pinocchio away from the puppeteer and then it cuts with no transition or setup to him just throwing Pinocchio into a cage and locking it up.
It would’ve been so cool if instead of cgi they made Pinocchio a real puppet. Maybe they could’ve made the villains cgi to show that “even though he’s not a human, he’s still realer than any evil dude”
Thing is, Disney actually did cgi that looks believable and well made in some of their earlier live action movies. The best examples I can think of Dead Man’s Chest and At World’s End. Just look at Davy Jones. He looks well made and believable thanks to the cgi and how it was done. The cgi in these films are really good to look at and these came out around 2006-2007! Disney’s gotten down hill every since because They don’t think they should try.
@Dante Toshiro64 well I like it and how is liking movies like this a bad thing the answer is simple it isn't people can like or dislike anything they want to
There other remakes haven’t been bad. The only one I disliked was Lion King but mainly due to it literally being shot for shot remake. It really felt completely pointless. Beauty and the Beast and Cinderella are my favorite ones. They both actually had a lot of thought and love poured into the making. Alan Menken was very unsure about returning to Beauty and the Beast because of how beautiful the original was and how close it still is to his heart. But then he started going through songs he and Howard Ashman worked on before he died and saw he had a way to honor his old partner by adding back lyrics he had written and adding new music that he wrote completely out of his love for the movie. But Pinocchio? Complete garbage waste of money and talent. This director hasn’t made anything good in years. The music from the original is mostly thrown out and replaced with TERRIBLE new songs that I guarantee NOBODY can remember how they go. Frozen, as annoyed as I know some get due to over use of “let it go” had good songs you could think of after the movie ended. You may not remember exact lyrics but you know “Let it go! Let it gooo”… In this movie? Everything new is completely soulless.
Actually I was pretty disappointed to see that Pinocchio was a 100% CGI character because I has hoping the actor Benjamim Evan that voiced him in this movie would actually play him at some point because he looked just like human Pinocchio (when he becomes a "real boy") by the time they were producing this movie, he could have acted as the character with the use of motion-capture to make it look like he was made out of wood, which is pretty much what Robert Zemekis is known for, or at least have played him in the final scene when he became a real boy, and that scene wasn´t even in this movie
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 Fr. He just stayed wooden. Idk if they did this just to be "different" from the original and call it a day, but that kinda ruined the ending
@@sugarcandykiddycat1986 yeah, I was this close to actually like this movie better than the original but that ending ruined it, if you take a look his scale don’t even make sense, he has the size (considering height and proportions) of a 2 year-old but his mental age seems to be around 5/6 years-old, it worked in the animated version but not so much in the live-action one
You should watch the 1940 Disney one! I watched it again the other day, and while it's a bit too fast-paced perhaps, it still holds up as an enjoyable film. The animation is fantastic.
I have said this multiple times to friends and whatever and I will die on this hill: Disney is laundering money with whatever they've been doing since 2016
I think in general stop motion movies are good cause of the time and effort required to make them essentially necessitates those working on it to genuinely care about their craft
For the 90s Hocus Pocus the character/cat of Zachary Binx was about 12 different cats (and a puppet everyso often). They just used whichever cat was necessary for what they needed for the shot. It worked beautifully. This is a company that has the money and the intelligence to do that but will also CG/uncanny-valley us up a kitten for this 2020s film... K.
@@VicenteTorresAliasVits Well then I lose this bet. What were the stakes again? Also the animated seagul from the original mermaid never showed dong, Scuttle could have just had a deep lady voice
I was actually outraged at the end thinking that he didn’t turn into a real boy. It’s SO EASY to miss! Then Jiminy even saying “no one knows if he ever became a real boy!” solidifies that though of him never becoming real. My boyfriend mentioned it looked like maybe he changed but then thought it was just the lighting making the wood look like skin for a moment and the fact he’s walking away from us. We saw some review or read one that mentions that at the LAST SECOND he starts to change so we went back on Disney+ to see that last part again. Yup. It’s literally blink and you miss it. I was like could they not get the Blue Fairy actress back to film one more scene???? Arguably the MOST IMPORTANT GOD DAMN SCENE?!
Embarrassing that Disney is a multi billion dollar company that has access to the greatest artistic talents in the world, and yet their animation from 80+ years ago still looks eons better.
they stopped caring, movies are not their only source of income these days, and people will always run to see them because of the brand name, i'm sure dreamworks and all the other studios will have the same fate, this is the era of polished turds. be it music, movies, TV...... they all peaked mid 00's and been constantly downhill from there
I share your excitement for this stop-motion movie that is sure to be another masterpiece, people don’t give enough credit to stop-motion and the work it takes. Im still upset about how Kubo got snuffed 😭
The fact that there was a more successful live action version that starred Johnathan Taylor Thomas in the 90's that was ALSO made by Disney is hilarious. I keep waiting for someone to bring that movie up in comparison and it's like it never existed. But my parents literally own it on DVD
@@VicenteTorresAliasVits That would certainly explain why Disney would want to squirrel it away, but not every movie that does poorly at the box office is inherently disliked/bad. (Take Treasure planet, for example). Most people probably dislike it (or realistically, don’t remember it), but it might have a little cult following. And even if it is bad, it can’t be as bad as this steaming dung heap
tbf, can you even name a studio that hand draws animated films? Really no one in the industry has that craft anymore and those who do are probably retired. And I prefer 3D animation as it can be a lot more detailed and imaginative imo. Just look at Encanto
I couldn't believe Zemeckis was put on THIS remake instead of ALADDIN, which is SO much more his arena!! Crazy enough, BOTH 'The Adventures of Pinocchio' from 1996 AND Disney's own 'Geppetto' are EXACTLY how he would do this story! The first is dark and horrifying yet still cute where he's channeling his inner Tobe Hooper and the other is a live-action Disney TV movie back when they knew how to make them fun, full of personality, and heartfelt;)
The del toro Pinocchio is a lot more emotional. It adds a lot more to Pinocchio as a character and is overall a lot easier to watch than the Disney remake.
the scene where pinocchio lies to get the key is stolen from shrek 2 where pinocchio lies to give the key to shrek and donkey, but atleast in that scene its done in a comedic way
The thing about live action remakes is that you can't exaggerate the facial expressions like you would in cartoons. In toons you can stretch faces, pop eyeballs out, twist the character's head 360 degrees and the rest of their body spins and they're totally fine. Cgi doesn't work like that and if it did, it was done so by sure dumb luck. That's why cgi worked so well for Avatar (blue people). But with cartoons it just doesn't mesh 🤷♀️
I feel like there were so many places were they could have used practical effects to save time, money, and effort while creating a better result; but instead everything had to be drenched in cgi.
For Pleasure Island, you forgot that the coachman has literal SHADOW DEMONS THAT DO HIS BIDDING. Also it might just be me, but I was so confused whether the Coachman and the carnival Rootbeer Server were supposed to be the same person.
Think about it, isn´t it ridiculous how we joked about how the Russian Pinocchio had the sad love tear magical scene that didn´t make sense and felt like they copied Tangled but Disney´s Pinocchio had the exact same scene in the end (only with Pinocchio crying over Gepetto, which made even less sense) and it wasn´t even the first one to do so? This new movie managed to make Pinocchio: A True Story seem better
@@bbeeohazardd And so do prop artists, which is why half of everything in this movie is CGI when it doesn't need to be, like the PS2 graphics "root" beer
The importance of the blue fairy in the original was more of a guardian angel then anything else. She said in the movie after helping him out of the cage that, that was going to be her last time helping him but she wasn't gone... She sent him information about monstro eating his father Geppetto. At the end he turned from a wooden boy to an animated boy in this movie
Can't believe you didn't even mention the 2 minutes of him just staring, sniffing and poking at a big lump of poop. All of the effects were awful. Nothing feels like it's in the same place or has any interaction with anything else, like the motion tracking for Hanks holding Pinnochio near the beginning he is just wriggling about everywhere except making contact with Hanks' actual hands. The root bear is also CG, as are the clocks the kids smash which they all looked bored af doing and clearly received poor direction on. They even CG'd the kids in the kart at one point and it went full Polar Express. The lighting is atrocious and eye burning. It makes everything look washed out or even less like they are actually in that environment. The morals are either mixed up or non-existent. He lies to get out of a bad situation, so I guess lying is good now. Not showing cigars or real beer and how bad they are defeats the purpose of the scene entirely. Jiminy has no relevance to the story whatsoever, Pinnochio already says no to the bad things so why does he need a separate conscience? He spends all of a few minutes being part donkey before it just disappears because they got bored of that. The Blue Fairy appears several times in the original to advise and encourage Pinnochio in the animated original, but appears once in this and then loses interest. She also apparently doesn't care about any of the children being turned into donkeys forever (I think this is also the case in the original) as she doesn't even attempt to help them. Must be off doing her terrible flying out of the window effects somewhere. The new puppeteer character is like "we're going to help you" then decides it's too hard to even try and just leaves. Worthless character that added nothing but runtime. The Gull was even worse and was horribly voiced. It was used as transport and that's it. I don't think it would have been able to drag Pinnochio like it does and it's just a bad substitute for the ocean floor scene because they couldn't be bothered to do that. Not sure why they gave Geppetto the power of Disney movie prophecy, nor why he only uses it to make clocks, but they did and boy did they enjoy showing it. Also Pinnochio has super speed, some level of pyrokinesis and regenerative healing, and he can resurrect the dead by crying on them, all of which he proceeds to lose so he can become a Zemeckis CG 'real' boy. There's so much more wrong with this soulless turd that neither you nor I have even touched upon because we'd be here all day.
Just watch the foreign Pinocchio 2020, guys. That movie had so much charm! And Pinocchio himself’s design was so good, as the movie goes on they even progressively added wear and tear to his wooden features ~
i specifically didn’t watch anyone else’s review/analysis of this movie or read anything about it since it came out because i was hoping and waiting you would make a video about it. and you did and it was short and concise and extremely satisfying 🙏
My gf and I watched this a couple days back and man I was like… tf is goin on here. Fabiana and Sofia were awkward and could have been left out completely, pinnochio has motorboat legs that can move faster than light, his nose barely grows in the movie, and they made the damn whale an alien with tendrils (i know it looks more like a fish in the original.) What happened during development🗿
@@Jenacide Personally I felt Son-in-Law was one of his better movies, but different strokes for different folks I suppose. I guess they do get some brownie points for having Tenacious D though.
until he got bonked on the head with the hammer. i just know that seeing a realistic fox get blunt force trauma made a few dozen kids cry in the theater.
Unsure if me but I feel the only reason Disney is doing the remakes is to hold the licenses as they would become public domain after X years. That or it's just a tax write off.
Know what would have been cool. If it was live action and they used the wood puppets that you control with strings for the whole movie. Or at least for the beginning until he became a real boy.
To me the worst part isn't the animation, or the other terrible things tho they are the icing of the shit cake. They somehow didn't understand the main plot and moral of the story and undercuts it while still following the same story as the old pinocchio. By making pinocchio make no mistakes and is rather forced to do these things like go to theater since the school kicks him out and gets kidnapped to pleasure Island. Even expressing actual fear of the misbehaviour and his only misconduct in pleasure Island is drinking FUCKIN ROOT BEAR. The ending makes no sense since he was already good and somehow has a conscience and knows right or wrong without jimminy cricket (which in that case why even have him)
For a split second I thought I saw Spilling The Milk's video watching the movie, so I went back and I am pretty sure it is. It's insane that I can recognize their videos at just a glance lol
i'm studying cinema animation, and watching your reviews helps me a lot to add knowledge to what im learning. So i found amazing that i can laugh and learn with your vids man, much love from Argentina Bionic !
I literally fell asleep in the mist of watching it. …..you don’t fall asleep in the middle of watching a movie unless it’s bad… Nowwwww please do PRINCESS & THE GOBLINS
i remember when the remakes were first happening I was very excited for a possible Pinocchio film because the animated one is so scary and strange and whimsical I thought if it got taken into a horror direction with stunning graphics, the film could be fantastic and I was very excited. Such a shame they censored it in this weird way.
Why do people keep saying Disney should stop remaking these movies?! Here's an idea, how about not watching it! They make it sound as if Disney is forcing them to see it.
I agree with you completely if people don't really like these remakes then they don't have to watch them that's why there's a saying vote with your wallet If people really want these remakes to stop then simply stop watching them all together if they do that then Disney will lose money from those remakes and eventually they'll stop doing them the same could be said for Marvel or Star wars the only reason they're continually is because people are still watching them which means they're still making money
I think the reason why Pinocchio looks so out of place or unfinished was probably due to time. Like this feels really rushed to make sure it got out as soon as possible. His face looks bizarre because his eyes in the original have black lines around them and his cheeks are rosy, not to mention his nose is a darker color so it doesn’t blend in with his face. 🤷🏽♀️
There are many different ways you can make a live action Pinocchio movie. You can use an actual puppet, like in 1996 "The adventures of Pinocchio", made with an animatronic from Jim Henson's Creature Shop, or the german movie "Pinocchio", from 1967 (aka "Turlis Abenteuer), which had an actual marionette. You can have an actual actor with some make up, like in the earliest movie version, from 1911 with Polidor, or the eerie and artful movie from 2019, or the weird one with Benigni from 2002. Then there's another option, that I find pretty genius, that if I'm not wrong was first used by the 1972 miniseries: you have Pinocchio that starts off as a living wooden puppet (like in Collodi's book), and then the fairy turns him into an actual child and makes him turn back when he misbehaves (this way you can have Pinocchio running around with no one being bothered by a talking puppet, but also keep it close to the original story). I don't know where I'm going with this, I guess I wanna point out how Disney's cg fest is a pretty bad way of adapting a story about a doll coming to life
I don’t understand why they didn’t have Tim Burton direct Pinocchio, and let him have creative freedom. It was literally my dream that they would ever since they gave him Dumbo 🙄 to remake. How could they miss this? How could they do this to us? If they gave him Pinocchio to make as an animated something or other, and ALLOWED for him to keep those themes that were in the old movie that’s supposedly “too inappropriate” for children, (but let’s face it, it WAS NOT a kids film to begin with, really) and let the artists breathe life into this and make something enchanting, gorgeous and creepy? That would’ve been 🔥 I can’t believe they squandered THIS. I can only hope that the movie that’s stop motion can help me cause this is embarrassing
The coach master represents a malicious being, tempting kids to Pleasure Island to do bad things with no remorse. Once the kids have been snagged by the pleasing visuals, cigars and beer, the truth is revealed. He takes the naughty children who were transformed into donkeys and forces them to work forever under harsh environments as a form of severe punishment for being led astray. As he put it in the original, "You boys had your fun now suffer the consequences!" Essentially, it's a scare tactic to set rowdy children on the straight and narrow path lest they suffer fates worse than death.
@@animezilla4486 Disney has acquired copyrights to a lot of classic stories, and since Mickey Mouse is on the chopping block again. Disney might be prepping to get the time extended again.
@@MySqueezingArm if Mickey mouse is on The chopping box what about the other original Disney characters like Goofy, Donald duck, and Minnie aren't they in danger being public domain as well
@@animezilla4486 Steamboat Willie (OG Mickey) is the oldest, and the general copyright on it was extended several times. You can look into it, I'm busy.
I was really scared of the good fairy in this movie. not because shes black, just because she didn't had hair and these things on her ears. she looked like a gnome. I always thought that I should trust a good fairy, but I would be really scared of this on
If you told me Disney released this movie just to outshine Guilhermo Del Toro's Pinocchio and be n⁰ 1 on "Pinocchio 2022" list, I'd believe you. That would explain the rushed and underdeveloped nature of this movie.
The Jonathan Taylor Thomas live action Pinocchio is the only one that will ever be good tbh. They used actual puppets from the Jim Henson company too and they still live up well even over 20 years later. Definitely recommend a watch of that.
Honestly, I wouldn't mind it if they remade them into the CGI " frozen or tangled style." Because then they're still remaking it, but still in a beautiful and brilliant way that is more likely to bring in. I guess a younger audience and still play off of the nostalgia but instead they have to go to the weird route and go live action. If they're going to go live action, why not just do giant Broadway play runs?. Get people back into a dying art form
Shrek Pinocchio is still the best Pinocchio.
ITS A THONG
He's the best but unfortunately has the most annoying voice
@@pissapocalypse I think that the point I think they gave him a voice like that for jokes.
@@jackmarshall3255 I still think the voice is funny I just don't wanna listen to him talk for a large amount of time lol
@@pissapocalypse agree at time his voice does become annoying but it’s still better than Disney.
This film is like the definitive example of never touch anything that doesn't need fixing.
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Well the thing is the classical Pinocchio did have his issues and this movie had a shot at solving or changing them maybe making his story more relatable for Gen Z kids, the thing is the classical Pinocchio was made in the 1940´s and back then no one cared much about the politically correct back then so it had those unnecessary scenes with kids smoking and drinking, some racist references and even child mistreatment, now this new live-action is another product of Disney being way too politically correct so they had root beer and candy instead of beer and cigars, they added Fabiana so there would be someone in that marionette show for us to sympathize with and they made Pinocchio a good boy from the start and all his mistakes weren´t his fault, he was a victim of the conditions.
"If it ain't baroque, don't fix it!"
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 They we’re not unnecessary scenes. Pinocchio has always been a morality tale, the drinking and smoking were there to teach children. What NOT to do. This movie completely misses the point and has the children punished basically for drinking soda and sweets.
Saying that the Paula shore version is better than the Disney remake is not even a lukewarm take
just facts
Lmao you’re right.
It’s a take straight from the garbage bin.
Because it’s still bad, even if it needs to compete with movies just as bad as the Pinocchio remake.
It’s still gonna be straight garbage.
It’s just like when people started getting all sentimental about how much they ACTUALLY liked the Star Wars prequels that they used to hate because of how bad the sequels were.
Doesn’t take away from how bad such movies are still.
I agree these remakes movies keep on getting worse
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Pinocchio is depicted as a good boy thoughout this movie, which completely negates the point of the original, where he had to learn from his mistakes.
A little bit like Disney.
But he still like him a character
Exactly! Disney seems so afraid of anything that can make their main characters unlikable, even if that is meant to be the point of the character. In the original, Pinocchio needed to learn to be a good person in order to prove he was worthy of being a real boy, and along the way he makes a bunch of honest mistakes that are typical of young boys, and he learns from them. But in the remake, Pinocchio is a good person from the start, it's just that bad people keep taking advantage of him until he arbitrarily becomes a real boy for no real reason. Even during Pleasure Island, Pinocchio isn't having fun, he looks and acts like he's been held there against his will, which was not at all the point of that scene. Even the freakin' nose-growing scene -- the one thing people most associate with the character -- is re-framed so that Pinocchio is lying "for a good reason," which again misses the entire point.
Pinocchio is about a marionette being given a soul, who learns from his mistakes and becomes a real boy.
Disney sucked out all the soul from this story and is unwilling to learn from it's mistakes.
It's like Disney didn't actually make Pinocchio a real boy in the 2022 at all. He's so soulless in this that I'm not convinced that there isn't someone operating invisible strings on him, that's not a compliment the character just looks that bad
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Disney: *Makes 101 Dalmatians, arguably one of the best live action remakes in the lineup using trained animals*
Also Disney: *uses cgi cat for a pet**
Yeah, those were my thoughts exactly. Cats are common. You can get a cat to be in your movie but no they had to make it weird and you CGI
I've been saying that Pinocchio is a morality tale that had its moral complications and conflicts removed, making it pointless and yea, it's still true. As far as I'm concerned the 1940s Disney Pinocchio is the only Disney version that exists.
True, it's like remaking Breaking Bad without any mentions to meth
Guillermo Del Toro most be thanking Disney for making people wanting to see his Pinocchio movie
Here's the thing I actually am interested in seeing both versions of the character in these movies
@@animezilla4486 who?
I was more excited for that than for this, honestly. I can’t wait, I’m such a sucker for stop motion films, and Pinocchio is literally PERFECT for it, omg
The stop motion one looks creepy tbh
Actually the nose thing only appears in the original film once, too. It wasn't a core part of his character, it only happened once when the fairy was trying to make a point to him about the issue with lying.
I remember being disappointed as a child when I watched Disney Pinocchio for the first time that the nose thing happened only once.
the scene where Pinocchio stumbled upon some horse poo on his way walking to school, sniffs it and tries to touch it was how i felt about this Disney remake, its shit, I don't know how Pinocchio turned into a donkey, he never engaged in any naughty behavior like drinking root beer, or breaking cuckoo clocks, it felt like he was abducted and forced to go to pleasure island, where in the original he is manipulated into going to pleasure island and he engages in misbehavior
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I will give this Pinocchio one thing
I absolutely lost my shit when Stromboli threw Pinocchio like a football, point blank into the cage with the funniest hard cut I've seen. It went from him holding Pinocchio to immediately him throwing Pinocchio into the cage. No build up or him walking up to the cage to do, just hard cut to him throwing. It was so funny
damn that's my exact sense of humor
Yes I'll admit that was funny as well
Didn't that happen in the original tho?
@@sofiantz2142 yeah
But the difference is one is cut like a gag and the other isn't
@@sofiantz2142 In the original, Stromboli was praising Pinocchio and said that they'd both make money, but Pinocchio says he has to return home to his father so he starts to leave. Stromboli gets mad at Pinocchio for thinking he can just leave whenever he wants. So he catches him as he's leaving, carries him over to the cage, tosses him in, and locks it up.
In the remake, Stromboli lures Pinocchio away from the puppeteer and then it cuts with no transition or setup to him just throwing Pinocchio into a cage and locking it up.
It would’ve been so cool if instead of cgi they made Pinocchio a real puppet. Maybe they could’ve made the villains cgi to show that “even though he’s not a human, he’s still realer than any evil dude”
Goddamn it!
Stop handing me hypothetical movie ideas.
Thing is, Disney actually did cgi that looks believable and well made in some of their earlier live action movies. The best examples I can think of Dead Man’s Chest and At World’s End. Just look at Davy Jones. He looks well made and believable thanks to the cgi and how it was done. The cgi in these films are really good to look at and these came out around 2006-2007! Disney’s gotten down hill every since because They don’t think they should try.
@@thequietone6860 blame New blood animators of today, old school crew cared, these guys only come to get paid
@@locoludwin3228 I can't agree more.
Who woulda thought, a live-action remake is bad
@Dante Toshiro64 well I like it and how is liking movies like this a bad thing the answer is simple it isn't people can like or dislike anything they want to
There other remakes haven’t been bad. The only one I disliked was Lion King but mainly due to it literally being shot for shot remake. It really felt completely pointless. Beauty and the Beast and Cinderella are my favorite ones. They both actually had a lot of thought and love poured into the making. Alan Menken was very unsure about returning to Beauty and the Beast because of how beautiful the original was and how close it still is to his heart. But then he started going through songs he and Howard Ashman worked on before he died and saw he had a way to honor his old partner by adding back lyrics he had written and adding new music that he wrote completely out of his love for the movie.
But Pinocchio? Complete garbage waste of money and talent. This director hasn’t made anything good in years. The music from the original is mostly thrown out and replaced with TERRIBLE new songs that I guarantee NOBODY can remember how they go. Frozen, as annoyed as I know some get due to over use of “let it go” had good songs you could think of after the movie ended. You may not remember exact lyrics but you know “Let it go! Let it gooo”… In this movie? Everything new is completely soulless.
There’s a 2019 live action version from Italy that’s supposed to be amazing.
@@ryanb4940 Mulan
Tom Hanks: I'll do it for 5 million.
Director: fine but can you at least look like you care?
Tom Hanks: no
Director: ok
😂
@PeterJoseph tbf I don't blame him
We’re in trouble when Disney starts making remakes of the remakes.
Live action remake of Frozen
😭 I hate the very idea
Chicken Little.
Oh lord, don't give them ideas!!! 😰
@@Inkki89 It’s too late! 😔
The sad part is that design for Pinocchio is fantastic, it’s just wasted and ruined in a terrible movie.
Actually I was pretty disappointed to see that Pinocchio was a 100% CGI character because I has hoping the actor Benjamim Evan that voiced him in this movie would actually play him at some point because he looked just like human Pinocchio (when he becomes a "real boy") by the time they were producing this movie, he could have acted as the character with the use of motion-capture to make it look like he was made out of wood, which is pretty much what Robert Zemekis is known for, or at least have played him in the final scene when he became a real boy, and that scene wasn´t even in this movie
@@lauracerqueiramachado8979 Fr. He just stayed wooden. Idk if they did this just to be "different" from the original and call it a day, but that kinda ruined the ending
@@sugarcandykiddycat1986 he doesn't even look wooden he looks like plastic
Ngl, the eyes were kinda bad.
The design compared to the OG was mid at best lmao
@@sugarcandykiddycat1986 yeah, I was this close to actually like this movie better than the original but that ending ruined it, if you take a look his scale don’t even make sense, he has the size (considering height and proportions) of a 2 year-old but his mental age seems to be around 5/6 years-old, it worked in the animated version but not so much in the live-action one
This made me realize that I've never actually watched any Pinocchio movie at all
You should watch the 1940 Disney one! I watched it again the other day, and while it's a bit too fast-paced perhaps, it still holds up as an enjoyable film. The animation is fantastic.
it is
Please watch the 2019 italian pinocchio! its so well made.
I have said this multiple times to friends and whatever and I will die on this hill: Disney is laundering money with whatever they've been doing since 2016
Thank you! I knew I couldn’t be the only one who thinks bad movies are sometimes money laundering schemes 😂
Disney trafficking kids and drug money
I think in general stop motion movies are good cause of the time and effort required to make them essentially necessitates those working on it to genuinely care about their craft
For the 90s Hocus Pocus the character/cat of Zachary Binx was about 12 different cats (and a puppet everyso often). They just used whichever cat was necessary for what they needed for the shot. It worked beautifully.
This is a company that has the money and the intelligence to do that but will also CG/uncanny-valley us up a kitten for this 2020s film...
K.
I bet you they only showed that seagull so he can show up in Little Mermaid and connect the two universes.
But this one is female.
@@VicenteTorresAliasVits Well then I lose this bet. What were the stakes again?
Also the animated seagul from the original mermaid never showed dong, Scuttle could have just had a deep lady voice
I was actually outraged at the end thinking that he didn’t turn into a real boy. It’s SO EASY to miss! Then Jiminy even saying “no one knows if he ever became a real boy!” solidifies that though of him never becoming real. My boyfriend mentioned it looked like maybe he changed but then thought it was just the lighting making the wood look like skin for a moment and the fact he’s walking away from us. We saw some review or read one that mentions that at the LAST SECOND he starts to change so we went back on Disney+ to see that last part again. Yup. It’s literally blink and you miss it. I was like could they not get the Blue Fairy actress back to film one more scene???? Arguably the MOST IMPORTANT GOD DAMN SCENE?!
At least we have Guillermo Del Toro's Pinocchio to look forward to.
Wow I'm looking forward to his version of the character that doesn't mean I hate the Disney remake
@@animezilla4486 what was good about the remake?
Embarrassing that Disney is a multi billion dollar company that has access to the greatest artistic talents in the world, and yet their animation from 80+ years ago still looks eons better.
they stopped caring, movies are not their only source of income these days, and people will always run to see them because of the brand name, i'm sure dreamworks and all the other studios will have the same fate, this is the era of polished turds. be it music, movies, TV...... they all peaked mid 00's and been constantly downhill from there
This is such a sweet story and they stripped it of all it’s heart & moral lessons
I share your excitement for this stop-motion movie that is sure to be another masterpiece, people don’t give enough credit to stop-motion and the work it takes. Im still upset about how Kubo got snuffed 😭
The fact that there was a more successful live action version that starred Johnathan Taylor Thomas in the 90's that was ALSO made by Disney is hilarious. I keep waiting for someone to bring that movie up in comparison and it's like it never existed. But my parents literally own it on DVD
I wiped that movie from memory entirely omfg! 😂
That’s so interesting, I’ve never even heard of it! It’s so funny how media can just disappear like that
my brother and i always quote that movie, "Go back to the beginning to get to the end."
But that movie also got negative reviews and it didn't even gross its budget back.
@@VicenteTorresAliasVits That would certainly explain why Disney would want to squirrel it away, but not every movie that does poorly at the box office is inherently disliked/bad. (Take Treasure planet, for example). Most people probably dislike it (or realistically, don’t remember it), but it might have a little cult following. And even if it is bad, it can’t be as bad as this steaming dung heap
Everyone: “So are you ever gonna do any hand drawn films again?”
Disney: “No.” 🙂
tbf, can you even name a studio that hand draws animated films? Really no one in the industry has that craft anymore and those who do are probably retired. And I prefer 3D animation as it can be a lot more detailed and imaginative imo. Just look at Encanto
I couldn't believe Zemeckis was put on THIS remake instead of ALADDIN, which is SO much more his arena!! Crazy enough, BOTH 'The Adventures of Pinocchio' from 1996 AND Disney's own 'Geppetto' are EXACTLY how he would do this story! The first is dark and horrifying yet still cute where he's channeling his inner Tobe Hooper and the other is a live-action Disney TV movie back when they knew how to make them fun, full of personality, and heartfelt;)
Disney: Cogsworth in the good version of Beauty & The Beast says it best: "If it's not baroque... don't fix it!" :)
The del toro Pinocchio is a lot more emotional. It adds a lot more to Pinocchio as a character and is overall a lot easier to watch than the Disney remake.
Now we all hope that Guillermo del Toro’s Pinocchio is better than both of these… and it will
You don't need to hope. I'm sure it IS gonna be better
@@sugarcandykiddycat1986 well nobody knows that for sure
I don't think the Disney remake deserves all the hate is getting in my opinion is nowhere near as bad as Mulan
@@animezilla4486 99% sure, dude never seems to miss
We’ll be disgusted by Sony’s Tarzan and a live action reboot of Disney’s Tarzan.
I was hoping they’d have a transformation to an actual real boy 😑
the scene where pinocchio lies to get the key is stolen from shrek 2 where pinocchio lies to give the key to shrek and donkey, but atleast in that scene its done in a comedic way
The thing about live action remakes is that you can't exaggerate the facial expressions like you would in cartoons. In toons you can stretch faces, pop eyeballs out, twist the character's head 360 degrees and the rest of their body spins and they're totally fine. Cgi doesn't work like that and if it did, it was done so by sure dumb luck. That's why cgi worked so well for Avatar (blue people). But with cartoons it just doesn't mesh 🤷♀️
I feel like there were so many places were they could have used practical effects to save time, money, and effort while creating a better result; but instead everything had to be drenched in cgi.
For Pleasure Island, you forgot that the coachman has literal SHADOW DEMONS THAT DO HIS BIDDING.
Also it might just be me, but I was so confused whether the Coachman and the carnival Rootbeer Server were supposed to be the same person.
Disney will soon craft "Animated film remakes" based on "live action remakes" that were based on the original "animated feature films."
Because they refuse to stop this there will inevitably be a live action Home on the Range
What about live action Donald?
@@fajaradi1223 Live Action Three Caballeros
Don't give them any ideas 😫😫😫
I laughed too hard at Pig attempting to say "Guillermo"
Think about it, isn´t it ridiculous how we joked about how the Russian Pinocchio had the sad love tear magical scene that didn´t make sense and felt like they copied Tangled but Disney´s Pinocchio had the exact same scene in the end (only with Pinocchio crying over Gepetto, which made even less sense) and it wasn´t even the first one to do so? This new movie managed to make Pinocchio: A True Story seem better
the cricket being the ghost of Christmas Past in Mickey's Christmas Carol was a masterstroke behind the creators of that classic festive short
I met Marc Gustaferson who worked on this movie w Del Toro, this was about 2 months ago- he didn’t seem to elated with how this turned out either. 😊
I feel like this is all culminating to become "Into the Pinochioverse."
Why’d they have to CG a cat…it’s a cat
because animal handlers have unions
@@bbeeohazardd And so do prop artists, which is why half of everything in this movie is CGI when it doesn't need to be, like the PS2 graphics "root" beer
@@bbeeohazardd so does literally every department in film 😂
The importance of the blue fairy in the original was more of a guardian angel then anything else. She said in the movie after helping him out of the cage that, that was going to be her last time helping him but she wasn't gone... She sent him information about monstro eating his father Geppetto.
At the end he turned from a wooden boy to an animated boy in this movie
Can't believe you didn't even mention the 2 minutes of him just staring, sniffing and poking at a big lump of poop.
All of the effects were awful. Nothing feels like it's in the same place or has any interaction with anything else, like the motion tracking for Hanks holding Pinnochio near the beginning he is just wriggling about everywhere except making contact with Hanks' actual hands. The root bear is also CG, as are the clocks the kids smash which they all looked bored af doing and clearly received poor direction on. They even CG'd the kids in the kart at one point and it went full Polar Express. The lighting is atrocious and eye burning. It makes everything look washed out or even less like they are actually in that environment.
The morals are either mixed up or non-existent. He lies to get out of a bad situation, so I guess lying is good now. Not showing cigars or real beer and how bad they are defeats the purpose of the scene entirely. Jiminy has no relevance to the story whatsoever, Pinnochio already says no to the bad things so why does he need a separate conscience? He spends all of a few minutes being part donkey before it just disappears because they got bored of that. The Blue Fairy appears several times in the original to advise and encourage Pinnochio in the animated original, but appears once in this and then loses interest. She also apparently doesn't care about any of the children being turned into donkeys forever (I think this is also the case in the original) as she doesn't even attempt to help them. Must be off doing her terrible flying out of the window effects somewhere. The new puppeteer character is like "we're going to help you" then decides it's too hard to even try and just leaves. Worthless character that added nothing but runtime. The Gull was even worse and was horribly voiced. It was used as transport and that's it. I don't think it would have been able to drag Pinnochio like it does and it's just a bad substitute for the ocean floor scene because they couldn't be bothered to do that.
Not sure why they gave Geppetto the power of Disney movie prophecy, nor why he only uses it to make clocks, but they did and boy did they enjoy showing it. Also Pinnochio has super speed, some level of pyrokinesis and regenerative healing, and he can resurrect the dead by crying on them, all of which he proceeds to lose so he can become a Zemeckis CG 'real' boy.
There's so much more wrong with this soulless turd that neither you nor I have even touched upon because we'd be here all day.
This movie decided to give Stromboli some comeuppance, but not the Coachman? Why???
The Coachman was a bigger bad guy than Stromboli.
It’s because Stromboli is a human being. The coachman is a demonic entity.
Tom Hanks giving up halfway through on his voice reminded me of when he played Col. Tom Parker
Just watch the foreign Pinocchio 2020, guys. That movie had so much charm! And Pinocchio himself’s design was so good, as the movie goes on they even progressively added wear and tear to his wooden features ~
i specifically didn’t watch anyone else’s review/analysis of this movie or read anything about it since it came out because i was hoping and waiting you would make a video about it. and you did and it was short and concise and extremely satisfying 🙏
My gf and I watched this a couple days back and man I was like… tf is goin on here. Fabiana and Sofia were awkward and could have been left out completely, pinnochio has motorboat legs that can move faster than light, his nose barely grows in the movie, and they made the damn whale an alien with tendrils (i know it looks more like a fish in the original.) What happened during development🗿
The real miracle is that Cleo didn’t die when all that saltwater got into her freshwater fish bowl
I think we owe Pauly shore an apology
guess we owe him an a-Pauly-gy
Think he still owes us an apology for BioDome.
@@blok--head7472 Nah, that shit at least entertained 10 year old me 😂
@@Jenacide Personally I felt Son-in-Law was one of his better movies, but different strokes for different folks I suppose.
I guess they do get some brownie points for having Tenacious D though.
Maybe I’m just a Furry but I genuinely love the CGI abomination that is Honest John. It’s so uncanny I just have this intense love for it
Very OwO
🤨📸
@@smusky4643 Google translate thinks you said “very business lol”
And, as a furry, 40’s Honest John is and will always be better to me in every way
@@Thedipsh_t No idea, but I want to learn it
until he got bonked on the head with the hammer. i just know that seeing a realistic fox get blunt force trauma made a few dozen kids cry in the theater.
Unsure if me but I feel the only reason Disney is doing the remakes is to hold the licenses as they would become public domain after X years.
That or it's just a tax write off.
You can say that again about the lighting,I watched it in 4K but I wasn't blown away by the movie at any single moment.
Know what would have been cool. If it was live action and they used the wood puppets that you control with strings for the whole movie. Or at least for the beginning until he became a real boy.
To me the worst part isn't the animation, or the other terrible things tho they are the icing of the shit cake. They somehow didn't understand the main plot and moral of the story and undercuts it while still following the same story as the old pinocchio. By making pinocchio make no mistakes and is rather forced to do these things like go to theater since the school kicks him out and gets kidnapped to pleasure Island. Even expressing actual fear of the misbehaviour and his only misconduct in pleasure Island is drinking FUCKIN ROOT BEAR.
The ending makes no sense since he was already good and somehow has a conscience and knows right or wrong without jimminy cricket (which in that case why even have him)
I seriously think they are just trying to prolong their copyright.
And money launder
How upsetting to see these childhood characters get ruined. Creativity is truly dead...
What are you talking about what was wrong about the character
@@animezilla4486 did you not watch the video?
For a split second I thought I saw Spilling The Milk's video watching the movie, so I went back and I am pretty sure it is. It's insane that I can recognize their videos at just a glance lol
Lmao
i'm studying cinema animation, and watching your reviews helps me a lot to add knowledge to what im learning. So i found amazing that i can laugh and learn with your vids man, much love from Argentina Bionic !
youre the first person in all these reviews to point out the subtle transformation cause sure as hell didnt see it
I think the upcoming stop motion Pinocchio will actually be really good
I literally fell asleep in the mist of watching it. …..you don’t fall asleep in the middle of watching a movie unless it’s bad…
Nowwwww please do PRINCESS & THE GOBLINS
I love ur inclusion of Tokyo ghouls theme into the dramatic scenes 😆
When he was swimming in the ocean like a literal speed boat it just made me think of the human in SpongeBob SquarePants movie
i remember when the remakes were first happening I was very excited for a possible Pinocchio film because the animated one is so scary and strange and whimsical I thought if it got taken into a horror direction with stunning graphics, the film could be fantastic and I was very excited. Such a shame they censored it in this weird way.
Why do people keep saying Disney should stop remaking these movies?! Here's an idea, how about not watching it! They make it sound as if Disney is forcing them to see it.
I agree with you completely if people don't really like these remakes then they don't have to watch them that's why there's a saying vote with your wallet If people really want these remakes to stop then simply stop watching them all together if they do that then Disney will lose money from those remakes and eventually they'll stop doing them the same could be said for Marvel or Star wars the only reason they're continually is because people are still watching them which means they're still making money
'Pinocchio has super powers.' Yeah this is just Tom Hanks as Dr. Light and Pinocchio is just Megaman.
Don’t worry we still got guillermo del toro’s Pinocchio, that shit looks amazing.
Pinocchio stooping down to sniff a pile of shit in the street is the perfect summary for this movie.
Pigs commentary mixed with the edits from this awesome editor just work so well together. I love it 👍
they missed the literal joke of calling the kids on Pleasure Island bad-"asses"
I love the Pinocchio with Johnathan Taylor-Thomas from the 90's.
Walt's frozen corpse is spinning in his cryogenic chamber.
They really went and decided to glorify lying lmao
I think the reason why Pinocchio looks so out of place or unfinished was probably due to time. Like this feels really rushed to make sure it got out as soon as possible. His face looks bizarre because his eyes in the original have black lines around them and his cheeks are rosy, not to mention his nose is a darker color so it doesn’t blend in with his face. 🤷🏽♀️
There are many different ways you can make a live action Pinocchio movie.
You can use an actual puppet, like in 1996 "The adventures of Pinocchio", made with an animatronic from Jim Henson's Creature Shop, or the german movie "Pinocchio", from 1967 (aka "Turlis Abenteuer), which had an actual marionette.
You can have an actual actor with some make up, like in the earliest movie version, from 1911 with Polidor, or the eerie and artful movie from 2019, or the weird one with Benigni from 2002.
Then there's another option, that I find pretty genius, that if I'm not wrong was first used by the 1972 miniseries: you have Pinocchio that starts off as a living wooden puppet (like in Collodi's book), and then the fairy turns him into an actual child and makes him turn back when he misbehaves (this way you can have Pinocchio running around with no one being bothered by a talking puppet, but also keep it close to the original story).
I don't know where I'm going with this, I guess I wanna point out how Disney's cg fest is a pretty bad way of adapting a story about a doll coming to life
I don’t understand why they didn’t have Tim Burton direct Pinocchio, and let him have creative freedom. It was literally my dream that they would ever since they gave him Dumbo 🙄 to remake. How could they miss this? How could they do this to us? If they gave him Pinocchio to make as an animated something or other, and ALLOWED for him to keep those themes that were in the old movie that’s supposedly “too inappropriate” for children, (but let’s face it, it WAS NOT a kids film to begin with, really) and let the artists breathe life into this and make something enchanting, gorgeous and creepy? That would’ve been 🔥
I can’t believe they squandered THIS. I can only hope that the movie that’s stop motion can help me cause this is embarrassing
The coach master represents a malicious being, tempting kids to Pleasure Island to do bad things with no remorse. Once the kids have been snagged by the pleasing visuals, cigars and beer, the truth is revealed. He takes the naughty children who were transformed into donkeys and forces them to work forever under harsh environments as a form of severe punishment for being led astray. As he put it in the original, "You boys had your fun now suffer the consequences!" Essentially, it's a scare tactic to set rowdy children on the straight and narrow path lest they suffer fates worse than death.
@1:23 I'm looking forward to that one too. Just finished re-watching Pan's Labyrinth this morning
i honestly can see disney start to get more and more desperate with their movies later on if *this* is the quality of their movies
Conspiracy theory:
All these remakes are just a front so they can try and extend the copyright laws again.
What are you talking about what copyright laws Pinocchio is a public domain character anybody can use them
@@animezilla4486 Disney has acquired copyrights to a lot of classic stories, and since Mickey Mouse is on the chopping block again. Disney might be prepping to get the time extended again.
@@MySqueezingArm if Mickey mouse is on The chopping box what about the other original Disney characters like Goofy, Donald duck, and Minnie aren't they in danger being public domain as well
@@animezilla4486 Steamboat Willie (OG Mickey) is the oldest, and the general copyright on it was extended several times. You can look into it, I'm busy.
This movie makes Jaws 3D look decent
Nostalgia is a profitable thingy but there's a catch. You have a finite amount to profit off.
There should be a Big Chungus film
Gonna be milking memes off of that one for sure
I was really scared of the good fairy in this movie. not because shes black, just because she didn't had hair and these things on her ears. she looked like a gnome. I always thought that I should trust a good fairy, but I would be really scared of this on
this is literally mary sue version of Pinnochio story
If you told me Disney released this movie just to outshine Guilhermo Del Toro's Pinocchio and be n⁰ 1 on "Pinocchio 2022" list, I'd believe you.
That would explain the rushed and underdeveloped nature of this movie.
I love how the video he pulls up is just 7 minutes of Chel 😂 had me in stitches
2:09 INSTEAD OF HIRING A CAT, WE HAVE SPENT THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS OF CGI ON A FAKE CAT THAT LOOKS LIKE SHIT!
The Jonathan Taylor Thomas live action Pinocchio is the only one that will ever be good tbh. They used actual puppets from the Jim Henson company too and they still live up well even over 20 years later. Definitely recommend a watch of that.
The Adventures of Pinocchio from 1996 is a better live action Pinocchio movie.
THEY TURNED MONSTRO INTO THE FUCKING SHARKTOPUS
My family and I watched it over the weekend and we loved it.
I just cant believe how much i love you talking about movies GODDAMIT
this never should have made it through production
Honestly, I wouldn't mind it if they remade them into the CGI " frozen or tangled style."
Because then they're still remaking it, but still in a beautiful and brilliant way that is more likely to bring in. I guess a younger audience and still play off of the nostalgia but instead they have to go to the weird route and go live action. If they're going to go live action, why not just do giant Broadway play runs?. Get people back into a dying art form
Disney’s Tarzan may be remade into the cgi Tangled style, if the live action Disney’s reboot flops hard.