Pinocchio (2022) Pitch Meeting
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If you hadn’t noticed, Disney has been on an absolute rampage of re-making their animated classics in “live-action” over the past few years. From Aladdin to The Lion King to Beauty and the Beast to Dumbo, they’re… y’know they’re doing it… for sure. Now, as they slowly run out of classics to remake, they’ve finally landed on one of their very first animated films ever… Pinocchio!
As you might imagine from a 2022 remake of a movie from 80 years ago, 2022’s Pinocchio does raise some questions. Like
To answer all these questions, check out the pitch meeting that led to the Pinocchio remake! Like what’s up with the iconic Blue Fairy showing up for one scene and then disappearing forever? Why is there an extended scene involving horse poop? Does Pinocchio learn anything at all, or is he already perfect from the beginning? And if he already fully gets the difference between right and wrong, what’s the point of Jiminy Cricket?
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Producer Guy genuinely knowing *WAY* more about Pinocchio than Screenwriter Guy does was a nice twist.
whats funny is if you really think about it; Pinocchio might be the ONLY movie this producer HAS SEEN! lmao! are there other movies the Producer Ryan references as if he's actually seen it?? is Stromboli, Producer Ryans favorite character?? lmao!
Producer guy was there when the original was made n he got a lot of money from it so, he's gotta remember
Screen writer guy is a hack writer with no time for research before doing a CGI remake
Producer guy has also seen all the Toby Maguire and Andrew Garfield Spider-Man movies... but only because Screenwriter guy told him to
producers knowing much about projects is tight
That seems like it’s the thing here lately, Producer guy asks pointed questions and subtly calls shit out hahaha
“Do you think we may be missing the entire point of the original movie?”
“I don’t care”
I am 100% certain this was an actual conversation with Disney Executives
I doubt it, because that would require one of them to realize that they're missing the point of the original.
Not only Disney, but all of Hollywood...
Its not just a script Ryan wrote, its a transcript if the actual conversation
Then, naturally, someone tells someone else to get all the way off their back.
Pink Coolio is tight!
The fact that Pinot Grigio never has to learn the main lesson of the story, and in fact, is shown to get ahead in life by lying, is hilarious and sad.
I think this version is actually better, teaching kids the real-world lesson, lying is actually helpful in this world or something
The kind of people who get paid to do their jobs horribly never had to learn a lesson in their life.
Very, very sad
I've heard of pandering to politicians, but this is ridiculous...
Uhm, his name is Pinot Noir, thank you very much
Gotta love how Ryan didn't even mention Pinocchio's love interest, she has _so much_ impact to the story that the movie doesn't change anything if you erase her scenes
Could've been interesting if it led anywhere.
But the movie just stopped before finishing up.
there was a love interest in the new one ?
... oh I forgot. It's 2022 ... there's got to be a love interest for the main character even if it makes zero sense at all. :D
There's a love interest in the movie?
lmao i ain't even seen the movie, so i didn't even know there was one, and it changed absolutely nothing XD
We all know why she was in there
You have to give Disney one: every time you think they simply can not come up with a even worse live adaptation then the last one, they take up the challenge and prove you wrong...
They need to just leave it alone …here’s an idea have a new idea…
@@priscillanotpresley new ideas are risky ... can't afford risks when there's money that needs printing.
(applies to the entire entertainment industry since the dawn of time ... )
Also keep in mind that Pinochio's story (and pretty much all of the original classics were public domain ... so no licensing and a free script.
@@NotTheStinkyCheese That's why King Walt chose those stories. No royalties. Then chose to copyright his version of them.
@@mkvv5687 that's a very smart move he did
@@priscillanotpresleyexcept their new ideas suck, too. Wish sucks. Turning Red sucks. Strange World sucks. Elemental sucks.
At this point Disney is looking for water to stop their cash from burning, and they keep finding oil.
"Do you think we might be missing the point of the original movie?"
You just summed up the entirety of all Disney remakes.
Disney and the European folklore the stories are based on is culturally alien to the tribe that currently owns Disney
some of them
@@priscillajimenez27 most of them
@@priscillajimenez27 all of them
What is the point of the original because that one also had no point.
The original Pinocchio contained roughly 14,000 metaphors about maturity, responsibility and the human condition. Somehow, the AI that wrote Pinocchio 2022 managed to avoid recognizing a single one of them. It's almost impressive, like dodging raindrops in a storm.
Somehow less impressive when accounting for quantum mechanics.
BWUAHAHAHA I laughed
That's because the AI that wrote 2022's Pinochetio was given the instruction to rewrite Pinocchio so the main character is perfect, doesn't have to learn anything, and is only a victim of circumstance, under the belief it would appeal to the college aged, infant minded, technicolor-haired, left of Karl Marx, social justice lynch mobsters who think they're perfect, don't have to learn anything, and are only victims of circumstance; just like all the other "cUrReNt yEaR" pig slop about strongk, empowahed MaRey SuuUuuues who are perfect, don't have to learn anything, and are only victims of circumstance.
Odd that the Soulless Disney Corporation would try to remake their classic animated films to cater to those people, since Walt Disney built an empire by making art for adults and children alike, who could grow up and pass those stories onto their children, but SJLMs don't have kids, because they aborted all of them.
Amazingly enough, you could probably make an actual AI write a Pinocchio movie and it would be more poignant than Pinocchio 2022
Not disney, but was the 05 Wonka remake devoid of lessons? Or nearly? I feel I recall the glorious points made by the oompahhs were absent.
"So, obviously this puppet spends like a good 90 seconds staring at a big pile of crap on the road and sniffing it and stuff."
"I like and approve that idea so much I'm gonna pay real money to somebody who's probably passionate about cinema and art to animate that for us."
"Thank you."
This is pure gold.
Every Pitch Meeting is tight. But somehow this one was a true gem, I was laughing far more than usual. Maybe it was the brilliant variety of vaguely almost-Pinnochio-ish names. Or the beautiful evolution of "I DON'T know!" into the more honest "I DON'T care!"
Watching the pitch meeting for a movie so you don't actually have to watch the movie is tight.
I vowed never to watch another live action Disney remake after...I don't actually remember, something in the 2010's...so these Pitch Meetings are wonderfully cathartic in that they affirm my decision.
@@PhelesDragon Same. I watched Cinderella, Jungle Book, and Beauty and the Beast. Three strikes n you're out.
@@PhelesDragon So you’ve never seen the live action The Jungle Book? That movie’s incredible, one of the only good live action remakes.
Yup yup yup........yup
Oh really?
At this point…these pitch meetings are way better than the movies in 6 minutes or less…
I deeply want to see a movie this guy writes.
Ok, saw the original cartoon back in the 80's and I distinctly remember Pinnocchio turning into a donkey. 🐴
It was one of the horrifying memories I had of this cartoon as a child. 😳
Old school Disney movies were mad creepy. 😖
Don't you mean Pa knock knock who's there? Or was it Peanut child or pino grigo?
Monstro scared the hell out of me when I saw it. The "Subnautica sea monster" version in this one is probably less scary.
I laughed
Ryan puts more effort in a 6 min sketch than Disney does in multi-million dollar movies
Sketch**🤓
Six minute scratches are TIGHT.
I wouldn't say "more effort". I mean, maybe for the script writer and stuff but those CGI artists, they are probably being overworked to shite.
Without Hollywood's lackluster effort there would be no Ryan. It's a symbotic relationship at it's peak.
Agreed XD
Constantly mispronouncing Pinocchio was absolutely hilarious barely an inconvenience
And barely an inconvenience.
Pina colada!
Pink Coolio
He never mispronounced pinot grigio
Pickle Child is a classic
My current theory is that Disney is actually paid off by Ryan to make bad movies so that he in turn can make great pitch meetings
Disney is paid by the Chinese Communist Party to subvert Western civilization.
one can hope
The look on Producer Guy when agree "Lie's can be pretty effect" was pure gold.
The line about the poor animator who had to do the pile of crap scene was funny yet heartbreaking lol.
Pinochle Yo-yo dropped his real apple in road apples there.
"I worked on Pinocchio (2022)"
"Oh really? What did you do?"
"I drew a stinking pile of shit"
"... So, you drew the whole movie?"
Dude had to get reference photos of actual piles of crap😂
@@kilmone best comment on here
"Hey sir, we've made a rough draft of the men drinking and smoking at-"
"NO ALCOHOL NOR CIGARS!"
"Uh- ok I guess, but in the original it-"
"...animate this poop."
"What? What are you calling poop?"
"No I mean we've got a scene where he sniffs some poop. Please animate it."
"(screaming internally) oh, ok..."
Pinachiao 0:11
Pena P Pinaga Pineakaio 0:12
Pineapple Chai 1:07
Pickle Chia Pet 2:45
Pink Coolio 3:18
Pinot Grigio 4:02
Peanut Child 4:43
Pknock Knock Who's There 5:01
Thank you! I'm dying!
that was too damn funny!! gotta watch a few more times
Thank you so much. It was going by so fast I missed most of these.
Pink Coolio was my favorite.
Doing the Lord's work here
I always thought it was funny how Jiminy Cricket, who really does look like a grasshopper, was offended when Lampwick asked, "Who's the grasshopper?" in the animated classic. But right now, I just did an image search, and it turns out that there ARE green crickets that look just like Jiminy.
My favorite part of this pitch meeting is the many ways he pronounces Pinnochio
I think Gepetto sending Pinocchio off by himself explains why he lost the first kid.
My thought exactly 😂 I was really expecting Ryan to say that
Exactly!
Especially in a world that has giant anthropomorphic cats and foxes that walk around town preying on children.
The movie is based on an Italian prop, man.
People don't die walking to school.
All jokes aside in Italy (as many countries in the world) even just 50 years ago was normal for kids to walk by themselves everywhere as part of groups generally. My mom for exalmpe used to go to elementary school alone in the south of Italy. Things changed around the 80s I guess, for some reasons.
“What really spoke to me about this one… is that we haven’t done it yet”
and the mispronouncing of Pinocchio was peak comedy 😂
It’s almost as good as ‘Red Shoes and the Seven Dwarfs ‘ creating 3 dwarfs named: Pino, Nocchi, and Chio who work together to operate a wooden puppet…
Is pronouncing Pinocchio is tight
The "as it should" line got me SO GOOD
Watching a "Pitch Meeting" video so many times that you have memorized the entire script is super easy, and absolutely not an inconvenience.
When we get a better morality tale from the Pitch Meeting than the actual Pinocchio movie
Fucking true.
Yeah. I felt the message from the original movie was that the world is scary and you can't trust anyone and you'll be punished for doing things you didn't understand.
The Remake. Not the original.
@@ModernVintageTV0 Was he (or she) really in need of clarification on that point? (serious question)
ehh not the worst
Thanks to pitch meetings, I looks forward to Disney's live action soulless remakes.
I avoid them like the plague, then come to watch the pitch meetings to know what I missed. So far I haven't regreted not watching any of them.
@Doctah Wahwee we basically re-entered the Disney era of Cinderella 3 cash grabs, but with higher budgets and accusations of racism to avoid how shitty they are
Do they have a soul, or are they lifeless duds? We would never know...if not for Pitch Meeting -Worthless Cricket
but the seamless mixing of cgi with real-life actors is flawless - said no one ever ...
I immediately thought about a life action remake of Soul.
Best thing about watching this channel is when I’m watching on my iPad, my wife can’t see what I’m watching, and when she sees me cracking up, she says, “You’re watching Pitch Meetings, aren’t you?”
Damn. I gotta figure out a way to work Pink-coolio into a conversation.
_"I don't care"_ literally made me laugh out loud. Nice twist on the catchphrase, and the sentiment broadly applies to all of Disney's live-action remakes.
I need a pineapple chai to calm down.🤣
And the industry in general.
Ok
101 Dalmations was okay.
The original stories were a million times better than any of the Disney versions.
This is probably the most brutal pitch meeting I’ve ever seen and I loved every second of it
Have you watched the Catwoman one? I nearly died XD Everything is wrong with that movie.
He also went pretty hard in his Lightyear pitch meeting
Because it said what we're all thinking. It's different from the original, in all the wrong ways. -_-
The one for the movie "Old". That one is pure carnage from the get-go.
I'm still flabbergasted that they didn't know what the original movie was even about. How is that at all possible? And it's not a very obscure movie - you can even watch it today, and ask people about it.
In theory, this should've been good. Zemekis and Hanks collab on an adaptation which they need to add a lot to has worked out great before, Polar Express is one of my favourite adaptations. Unfortunately, Disney+ era Disney had to be involved. And for a story like this to be told right with the modern rating system it needs to be rated R, given some of the stuff in the source material (even modern PG-13 is too restrictive for this story). But of course, that would scare away Disney's core audiance. Moral of the story, if you want to make a family movie with Zemekis and Hanks, use source material that can make a G rated movie.
Anybody remember they already did a live-action Pinocchio in 1996 with Jonathan Taylor Thomas from Tim Allen’s Home Improvement? THAT was a fantastic, excellently-done film that absolutely honored and kept the actual message/moral of the original. And was about 1000x better than this cash-grabby mess.
There are some morals in this version too that you easily miss because you’re too cynical 😉
@EpicJoshua314 like lying will get you out of trouble?
@@mikewhitman745 Nope. They are that children need to be aware that things which are too good to be true are probably a scam and if they’re not careful then bad things can happen (not turned into a donkey are anything like that), always be accountable for your actions and don’t let temptation guide you.
This 6 minutes of sketch had more creativity than the entire Pinocchio movie.
Pretty much lol
@JZ's BFF it can be quite a bit in the long term but rarely will it generate immediate large profit
This movie's name is Pinochetio.
Is that why the stock lost 2/5 of its value this year?
@JZ's BFF "Money? We love money."
I remember the scene in the original movie where the kid turns into a Donkey and calls out to his mom in fear of his own life before completely losing the ability to speak and starts going crazy in front of Pinocchio. That scene scared the crap out of me as a kid. Imagine what this scene could've looked like in a modern live action adaptation if properly done right, I was really looking forward to being scared again as an adult.
I can't believe Disney thought that is too inappropriate. It's supposed to be scary, like if you do bad things, binge drink, smoke, destroy people's property, consequences (possibly dire ones) will follow. You make a jackass out of yourself by doing these things and any kid can pick that up.
I don't know if there is an english dub but i suggest you the last italian adaptation (2019), Garrone's "Pinocchio". It's more close to the original novel rather than the disney cartoon. The scene of donkey trasformation is kinda scary XD
Yikes. It sounds horribly scary, but at the same time it's sort of classic Grimm's fairy tale territory; those guys didn't mince around with the personal responsibility.
Now I actually _want_ to see the original animated movie. Admittedly, in the CGI version I think I'd want to see it toned down a bit. Scaring is okay, scarring not so much.
😂 bro why?
Maybe Guillermo del Toro can do a better job with his version
The beloved tale of Pineapple Chai.
Loved by a latte people.
I actually popped the dvd of the original cartoon in for some younger relatives and had to fast forward some of the scenes because they were frankly insane.
Especially pleasure island!
Maybe it was the animation that was so freaky.
2:13, to be fair that was also a legitimate critique of the Disney cartoon
At the end I heard myself asking: "How did they mess up Pinocchio?" That perfectly summurises Disney in the moment.
That is a great question. How do you screw up Pinocchio? Disney must have heard that question and thought it was a request.
I'm old this was one of the first movies I ever saw as a kid . The whole point of the movie was Lying and doing Wrong had consequences . They should have left well enough alone
It's what happens when your company is being run by people hired strictly on their skin color, who they sleep with, and who they voted for. NOT for any TALENT.
Somehow they thought the thing people liked about Pinocchio was "funny wooden boy" and not anything about the actual story or the moral that lying is bad.
Gosh, this checklist of what is and isn't advisable for a safe, mainstream, four-quadrant movie is suffocatory. Personally, I think increased representation is good, but Pinocchio needing to be faultless and the kids not really being allowed to misbehave removes Pinocchio's character arc and robs the story of a narrative point of view or purpose.
"What really spoke to me about this one is we haven't done it yet"
You can't convince me that that isn't how the actual pitch for this movie went.
No, it was probably something more like *_”Goddamnit,_* we need to _show up_ Del Toro!”
0:19 “so what really spoke to me about this one is that we haven’t done it yet” that was gold🤣🤣
Pino Grigio has me DEAD. I love you Ryan. Thanks for making this so I can get away with only watching 30 minutes of that movie and never finishing it.
The “paying real money to someone who’s passionate about cinema and art” is just so freaking spot on
Imagine being passionate about cinema and animation, working literal blood, sweat, and tears to get a chance to work for perhaps the biggest name in that specific area, only to have your first day animating a “live action” Pinocchio going out in the new unexplored world and one of his first acts is sniffing the excrement of some unidentified animal on the street. Yeah, I doubt the irony is lost in the producers, but you know, money.
They can in all honesty say at their next job interview when asked what they did when working for Disney: "a literal pile of crap"
Who?
Like being an animator at Rockstar and being assigned to giving the horses physicsed testicles
I freaking JUST wrote a comment about the brilliance of that.
"I think we might be missing the entire point of the original"
"I dont care"
-Disney
"Do you think we might be missing the point of the original?"
"I don't care."
You pretty much sum up all of Disney's remakes right there.
They’re only being made for money! 💰💵
The look of calculated menace in his face as he says 'as it should' is breathtaking
I know, right?
When he says this, look at his eyebrows. Pure evil
tbh, Hollywood probably has a real pleasure island or two, and we definitely should be disturbed by what probably happens there
@@AeneasGemini clearly a reference to Epstein's island where also Tom Hanks was supposedly chillin' :)
@@Ko_onstantin Having children bring you drinks they aren't old enough to mix or drink themselves is TIGHT!
@@AeneasGemini I highly doubt that Epstein was the only one of his kind.
"oh hell yeah get those dead relatives in here start this off like every other Disney movie" 😂 I love it
Yep, there must be a mandatory requirement for at least one dead parent per movie.
@@trinaq especially if your a mother 😂 RIP
You can't have conflict if it is a loving, traditional, wonderfully married family. DESTROY THE FAMILY! -Disney
Yep like most batman movies.
"Should we put any non-white characters into this thing?" "What about adding a wise magical Black person? Has that ever been done?"
Just because Guillermo Del Toro version is amazing, this does not means that a pitch meeting cannot be done about it!
I forgot how frightening and weird Pinocchio is, guessing that's why I rarely watched it as a child. Very Brave Little Toaster.
"AS IT SHOULD" I love the aggressiveness behind that line.
The funniest thing about this remake is I didn’t even know it existed until reviews of it started popping
I didn’t know about it until I clicked this video and wrote this comment.
@@demonzabrak I still don't know about it
@@Naija_Ninja there’s a Pinocchio movie?
Same.
@@RazorO2Productions whos pinocchio?
getting the guilermo del toro version as pitch meeting would also be neat
Oh joy, producer guy and writer guy are back, how splendid!
And how nice of Disney to provide you guys with the perfect Pitch Meeting raw material.
So …they basically got rid of alll the conflict?
Ah yes. Great storytelling. Very exciting when a character doesn’t have to face…. Any challenges, or learn any lessons.
Modern Hollywood, everyone is just awesome all the time 🤷🏾
he learned that lying helps get him out of tough situations sometimes. so thats good.
He is chased by a sea monster and solves it with super powers. That's a _kind_ of challenge.
Lesson is : Never skip leg day, to keep sea monsters at bay.
So Gepetto got down with... Sonic the Hedgehog to make Pinocchio that fast then?
"I don't know" and "I don't care" pretty much sum up what this remake is made of. Great video as always, Ryan!
If I didn’t know any better, I’d say at least one of them was named Pierre.
Not really. There were things which you can easily miss in this remake if you’re too cynical.
I will never not look at Pinocchio as Pineachello ever again
The different names for Pinocchio is just hysterical!
"Get those dead relatives in there. Start this off like every other Disney movie."
The magic of Disney.
Johnny’s mother, father, and grandmother were still alive in *Song of the South.*
Not knowing a movie exists but still being hyped about the pitch meeting is tight
I literally had no idea that Disney had remade this one.
I pretty much wish we could have kept it that way.
The OG movie had offensive stereotypes, kids knowingly smoking cigarettes and drinking alcohol. They could get away with this in 1940 but certainly not today and especially considering the fact that Walt Disney died at a rather young age of 65 because he was a heavy smoker.
Mulan and The Lion King were more pointless remakes than Pinocchio, and even the Peter Pan & Wendy movie was more pointless than this and were better off doing a prequel, Peter Pan & James.
5:54 they have an extra wow on the figurine box lol, i cant believe they got the catch phrase wrong
The look on his face when he says "as it should" is priceless 😂😂😂
Weinstein somewhere loling
I was LMAO!!! 😂🤣😂🤣🤣
When sht gets REAL!
I think he was making an impression of the coachman. You know what I am talking about. >:)
@@stefanogiannaccini3258 oh that scene. Modern kids weren’t ready for that I guess.
*Everyone:* Hey Disney you know the point of the beer and smoking and the lying is that they're bad right?
*Disney:* Yep
*Everyone:* And you know you can show these things in a movie geared towards children as long as there's a lesson behind why they're bad right?
*Disney:* Yup.
*Everyone:* So, if you show Pinoke drinking, smoking, lying and making the point that it's BAD to do those things, then there's no need to change those things right?
*Disney:* That makes sense to me.
*Everyone:* SO WHY DID YOU CHANGE THE BEER TO ROOT BEER, REMOVE THE SMOKING, AND HAVE PINOCCHIO ESCAPE BY LYING?! IT UNDERCUTS THE ENTIRE MESSAGE.
*Disney:* gonna need you to hop all the way off my back about this.
It's part of subverting the ideology of a nation that you can't compete with militarily
I like the added touch of being patient until the very last Everyone moment lol
No lesson learned here.
To be fair, Disney probably would've faced child endangerment laws if they ordered actual kids to drink and smoke for a movie. In animation, you have a lot more freedom to make characters do what you want. Still doesn't justify this soulless remake when there's an upcoming Del Toro adaptation that'll be much more entertaining.
While I don’t like to take example a reflect it on to a whole group, this is something that is wrong in children’s movies, specifically those that are suppose to teach a lesson.
They want to teach a lesson about something wrong/bad but aren’t allowed to show the bad thing undercutting any strength the message had.
always love the "barely an inconvenience" bit
Love this channel.
The best change to the regular bit was dropping “get all the way off my back” and using “heyshutup…”
“The movie ends with a bug being like ‘Who knows what happened, I don’t know what happened.’”
Producer Guy really shines in this episode. That was nice to see. Thank you Ryan
LoL... yeah they alternate. In one episode ScreenwriterGuy will be the voice of reason and in another episode ProducerGuy will be the voice of reason while the other wants to fuse absurd ideas into the movie or tv show.
Jiminy Cricket is the voice of the remade-version's writer.
Bugs that don't know what happened are TIGHT!!
“I like and approve that idea so much I’m going to pay a real person money to animate that scene” is so brutal lmaoo
His name is a minced oath for Jesus Christ and they can’t deal with that anymore. He used to be a very prominent character outside of *Pinocchio.*
“They get turned into donkeys and sold as slaves to the salt mines” will forever be my favorite quote ever.
SoO qUirky
I kept hearing "glocks" instead of "clocks" and got really excited for this dark, gritty remake.
"Actually it's gonna be super easy! Barely an inconvenience!" Remains one of my favorite criticisms of what somehow seemed like a good idea to the writers. Always know something incredibly dumb is about to happen
Another pitch meeting, another two hours of my life saved. Thank you Ryan! 😄
This channel has saved me SO MUCH TIME!
@@MichaelWyattMDW me too.
I don't do anything productive with it, but it is time saved.
@@misterchubbikins oh newfound time that has been saved but also simultaneously wasted is TIGHT
@@misterchubbikins very true
In a weird way, this channel proves every one of these movies is worth their weight in gold. Without bad movies, this channel wouldn't be what it is.
If I had a nickel for every time Ryan alluded to him not wearing pants when recording Pich Meetings, I'd have nearly 50 cents.
"Which isn't a lot, really, but it's weird that it happens so often."
I ABSOLUTELY DIED with all the names you called him
The sad thing is that they brought Robert Zemeckis to do this weird stuff. Even though there were many references to his early works: Gepetto stuck in the middle of the sea on his small boat (Tom Hanks in Cast Away), a hero with leg injury and special brackets (Forrest Gump), cringy singing Tom Hanks (The Polar Express) and the clock with Jessica and Roger Rabbit
I’m loving how Pinocchio’s name was something different every time Ryan said it. 😂
My fave was pineapple chai and pine-a-chio 😂
My fav was Pink Coolio haha
@@cassymarlow6111 also peanut child 😂
i died when he called him pinot grigio
I loved Pin-knock-knock-who's-there!! 🤣🤣🤣
Oh boy. I'm an animator and being an animator was my dream career. I literally put off trying to enter the industry for a couple years because I didn't wanna be stuck dedicating weeks to working on stuff like the crap sniffing scene. Thank you for mentioning stuff like this. Means a lot.
Good for you. One should not have to do things in their dream career that do not align with their dreams, wants and desires. Otherwise what is the point of a dream career? It may as well be a fantasy.
I also wouldn't want to animate that pile of crap
and also the feces.
@Caroline LA Exactly. I can't imagine glorifying boycotting your own dreams because of the prospect of it becoming work. They may well be a bot tho. Same as me.
@Caroline LA Eh, don't get me wrong. I took the job in the end, and I'm happier for it, but I think there's something to be said about loving an artform, but hating the artlessness that it turns into. Imagine you had ideas and worked hard to become a skilled painter, only to spend weeks painting a pile of shit, and having the client send it back with notes like asking you to try another shade of brown. And you may not realize this, but there's a surprising amount of stuff like that in movies. I'd heard a teacher describe the medium as 'polishing turds, all day.' When you're young and passionate and maybe a little prideful, that's enough to make you think twice. Lol in the end I thought to myself that if I had any pride as an animator, I'd give them the best pile of shit they'd ever seen in their life.
If you ever get tired of working for a big company, I'm a writer. lol
Hey, I don’t know if this will ever be read but I’m the redheaded guy that yelled “PRODUCER GUY” out the window of a black suburban in Beverly Hills today. I’ve been watching your videos for years now and you’ve made me laugh more than I can count. I wanted to stop by to shake your hand and thank you for all the years of laughter.
I love that the other two movies with Pinnochio in them that also came out in 2022 got a bunch more (well deserved) praise than the Disney live action.
No, Pinocchio: A True Story was panned more
Despite this being "live action", it still feels more cartoonish than the original.
Let's thank Ryan for actually having to watch the movie to be able to make this pitch meeting.
So true - the amount of time he's saved me by watching subpar movies and creating comedy gold out of pitch meetings at the same time - he's the hero our internet needs!
@@davesomerton5232 And also fills us in on the internet conversation (EHEM Morbius) without actually watching the movie.
A real saint! Taking all those bullets for us. I feel like we're not worthy.
@@davesomerton5232 Though really, unless you have young kids, I don't see many viewers watching the remake of Pinocchio.
The man is heroic. I would never watch these movies.
Hey Ryan. Kind words. For your own edification, the "pinock knock. Who's there?", line worked well. That was it. Best laugh I have had in weeks. Thanks.
“I don’t know”
“Do you think we are missing the point of the original story?”
“I don’t care”
Love the way he constantly got Pinocchio's name wrong, but the best part was pleasure Island being "tight". That bit made me wheeze.
Pleasure Island is indeed tight, especially if you enter through the back.
@@madiqismal4186 wow wow wow... Wow.
The look on Producer Guy's face when he said "AS IT SHOULD" was something that I've never before seen in a pitch meeting, LOL
The guy who owns Pleasure Island did not kill himself
@@NeoTechni exactly!
"Do you think we might be missing the entire point of the original?"
"I don't care!!"
Seems pretty accurate 😂 didn't even realize this movie came out yet, but gotta love watching the pitch meeting instead of suffering through the actual movie!
Cinemasins did a review of the original recently but I also didn't realise it was because a remake had been done until I saw this Pitch Meeting.
@@rickstaism I think I only ever halfway watched the trailer for the remake, and turned it off after Pinocchio said something like "no DADDY!"
@@codysnowden231 Who's Pinocchio? Oh you mean Pina Colada.
I no longer mind these screwups anymore since I can watch a pitch meeting about it afterwards.
"Producer Guy paying real money to somebody who's passionate about art and cinema to animate a pile of crap" is such a meta notion.
And yet also forgot one of the funnier parts in the movie as well, when Pinocchio tells Hank's character everything he has done. "...you did that all in a day?!"
"Oh, going to pleasure island is TIGHT!"
"Uhh, somehow it makes me uncomfortable when you say that, sir."
*"As it SHOULD."*
That part was hilarious!
honestly, it made me think about how Hollywood likely has a real pleasure island or two....and we should most definitely be uncomfortable about what happens there
@@AeneasGemini considering rumors about Tom Hanks, this is even worse
@@AeneasGemini Ever heard about "Epstein" and his islands?
@@AeneasGemini I mean, practically half of Hollywood is on Jeffery Epstein’s flight log to his “Pleasure Island”. Including Tom Hanks.
ProducerGuy looked more like 1940's Coachman in that joke than the coachman in the 2022 version lmao
In this divided world, it’s nice to see when things like the Pinocchio remake can bring us together in our dislike for something
Pa-na-chi-o is my favorite Disney movie.
This "Pitch Meeting" had more soul than the movie you pitched.
3:57 this seems so true I could genuinely cry
2:46 - Picklechiapet. Hilarious
4:04 - This is the biggest issue with this remake. They changed events related to the story in ways that ruin the overall message. Pinocchio in the original film is convinced to join the puppet show instead of going to school. This is why he faces the consequences of his actions. In this movie he actually makes it to school, defeating the purpose of the life lesson. When Pinocchio goes to Pleasure Island he indulges in smoking and even implies he was breaking things with an axe. He's then transformed into a donkey which was a metaphor for saying he was being a jackass. In contrast in this movie he refused to break anything, there weren't any cigars, and kids drinking root beer is hardly a problem. Once again this movie missed the true purpose of why the scene worked in the original. Being turned into a half donkey in this movie isn't justified.
The whole point of the original film is that Pinocchio doesn't know right from wrong and he's easily lead astray. And when he makes the wrong choices there are consequences for his actions. These experiences are meant to build his character into an individual that learned from his mistakes and eventually chooses to do the right thing. But in this movie he's already trying to do the right thing all along. Sure, he's easily convinced to do the wrong thing a few times almost choosing not to go to school, but Jiminy catches up with him convincing Pinocchio to go to school before he could complete his bad decision. Then there's the time where he selflessly put Geppetto before the puppet show and his donkey ears and tail vanish. The problem with this scene is it has no meaning because he never really tried to do anything wrong in the first place. When the plot is about learning from your mistakes and then the movie doesn't allow you to make them in the first place, you have failed to make a faithful adaptation.
Agree on all points! Not sure if this was explained in the movie but in the book, the coach driver's business was effectively running a donkey mill based on the story logic that when people act like asses long enough, they become them and he could sell the donkeys or work them to death.
Also, in the book the cricket gets smashed by Pinocchio with a hammer in a rage on their second meeting IIRC, after that he shows up periodically to chide Pinocchio as a cricket-ghost.
So in the book, Pinocchio starts out as a violent psychopath rather than innocently clueless, attempting to injure Geppetto while he was still just a piece of wood. Even the original Disney movie mellowed the story quite a bit.
Pinocchio is one of my favorite fiction stories, I could blab about it all day. Didn't mean for this reply to be so long.
I was about to google what the heck Pistachio was supposed to be about, but you all summed it up here already!
Can't have actual morality coming from the place that nonstop tells us we're the center of the universe and Make Our Own Destiny(tm), can we?
It's great to see how passionate the Screenwriter Guy is about Peenuochccio and how much he cares about writing him in the spirit of the original.
Now I'm wondering if there will be a Pinocchio Pich Meeting but the Gillermo del Toro version.
“Pi-Knock Knock Who’s There” makes me laugh so hard
My friend and I watched this a couple of nights ago, so naturally she and I were confused about the "creative" decisions this movie made. Thankfully, all of our questions are answered here, and they all seem to have the same answer... "Money!" Thankyou guys for clearing things up! Much love!
You watched the entire thing? Props to you, I've given up after the fox scene
Ironically, the worse the adaptation the less money they typically make but that doesn't seem to stop the motivation.
@@MrBrock314 Yes, this genuinely confuses me. Disney keeps shilling out these live action remakes and they are all just bad. Like, not just mediocre, but insulting to the original level bad, as if it was intentional. And I just don't get it, why do they keep making these?
@@olenickel6013 money laundering?
@@HABO2210 Pretty sure disney already pays no taxes as it is.
Fun fact! In the original movie, Monstro has the belly pleats of a blue whale and the fangs of a sperm whale, indicating he's a hybrid cross of the biggest and meanest whales alive which is why Jiminey Cricket says Monstro is "A whale of a whale!"
Indeed a fun fact
That's actually gonna make me smile every time I watch that scene from now on 😄 I always loved how Jimminy said it, so now it has a whole strong umph! behind those words, if you get what I'm saying
Old Monstro was relentless and terrifying.
1:52 the studio was FULLY in on that creative decision
"Pinnock Knock who's there..."......EPIC. Literally LOL'd. Kudos.
I've been watching some of the older pitch meetings, and it's good to see that these guys have really developed some chemistry since the early days.
It was bound to happen. They have so much in common!
@@mr.battle20 Yet, each a unique individual in their own way.
I always asked myself if they were related and in a relationship. Where's their colleague this lawyer or producer?
Weird that after 300 episodes they finally did one with no spoilers ahead
This and 299
I mean, it's literally the EXACT same movie as the old one, sooooooo. XD
@@AegixDrakan Except worse and it isn't. If it WAS the exact same, it would've been good.
@@AegixDrakan sounds like they changed a couple important things.
@@AegixDrakan I mean it's so not like the original that it ends up conveying the message that lying is useful and the puppet is already a good boy soooooo
Watching another pitch meeting episode on its own new channel is always super easy barely an inconvenience.
Watching another pitch meeting is *tight*!
at this point, the producer sounds like someone who's trying to be supportive & understand their bff's book even though it makes literally no sense