Due to various small errors I’ve noticed in this video, a second version has been created. It includes some better quality audio as well as a piece missing from this video. Once that video starts getting traction, this one will be unlisted. czcams.com/video/S_QumP8ZPjY/video.htmlsi=qUGXy-7-Ckn3isMu
It's for a very simple reason. Only one member of the Collective had a say in what The Final Shape would be, one dominating will bending the minds of its cohorts to its every whim. The Dissenters were the ones aware of this fact, aware that this was not a communal desire, but a singular ambition. The "We... I... I don't understand" was the one lead mind realizing it had lost, that it was the only one who lost, and that every other member of the Collective was content to die because The Final Shape was not the contract, the soul binding agreement they had agreed to. Funny, isn't it, that a hive mind's leader would die all alone. Fitting, ironic, and delectable storytelling.
@@jonahsturdivant4488 Interesting read of the what happened. I also saw read of how that while "The Witness" is aware that its a culmination of various minds, it possesses its own consciousness, and when its destroyed it came to realize that the Precursor race as whole regretted its existence and that it was all alone.
@@jonahsturdivant4488I just saw it as the Witness shrinking down to one person cause the Guardians essentially unraveled it and all the little strings within it are being set free. Euphony describes it like this and the Echos are left over clumps from the Witness.
@@jonahsturdivant4488I think it's just the Dissenters gaining a more powerful voice within the Witness hivemind. Throughout the campaign, more and more minds start to dissent and realise that the final shape is not feasible. By the time of Excision, only a few radical Penitents actually fought on, and the "Cornerstones" we have to defeat are physical manifestations of those few remaining fanatics. So when the final blow gets landed, it's only one guy that still believes and fights on. Sad but fitting.
You know, I might be crazy, but I think during the excision battle you can actually hear more of its background voices disappearing, until it’s just one angry voice for the witness
It’s showing we’re slowly ripping away the dissenters. One by one they are being freed. No longer being stuck with the witness. By the end it’s only a few voices left which are the ones who were the original group who wanted to bring the final shape
Nice choice of using the exo male voice for the cutscene from shadowkeep. The exo male in my opinion sounds the best whoever does the voice kills it everytime.
I listened so many times and I think there are 3 voices, it took me remembering old orchestration music concepts to get my ear to finally pin it down and it surprised me as there is one very deep male voice, one medium register male voice (The primary) but the middle is a smooth female voice! For whatever reason imaging that really just kept the intrigue so high with it. I loved how well the voice compliments the inhumanness and inability to comprehend what it was and how it was like a walking paradox. When Zavala confronts it in the dark trying to join them and Terge says "I SEE WHAT YOU ARE" , and the Witness actually sounds almost friendly and curious': What do you see? To then destroy him a few seconds later. OOsh
@@TheWorstType It's been confirmed that every single voice for the Witness is just Brett Dalton, his voice was just changed/pitched multiple times. Also known as Grant Ward from Agents of Shield.
The Witness is easily my favorite antagonist. The sound designed, its voice, its motives, its appearances, manipulation of characters and events. It was great. I really hope if the Winnower is the next big, main antagonist or at least presence, then it has just as amazing design in all regards. Perhaps we can see it more in-game too
Not enough love here for Brett Dalton. He played a similar villain towards the end of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. it's his voice behind the effects that really makes this feel like the big bad
The think this is the witness and Likly nezarec here. Calus is in a nightmare and nezarec is the one who haunts nightmares. The witness likely used this to scare him into submission with the helpless feeling calus would have along with its true form with the change in tone would scare anyone to death.
Personally I think they did too much damage with his cartoonish design. In terms of all other elements, the faces in the smoke, the living yet synthetic clothing all of it was perfect except for his face. The voice killed it, numerous voices have been badass since forever. The Master from fallout still gives me goosebumps.
Well done, this was a PHENOMENAL voice for an antagonist - it being so calm, cold and clipped only added to his menace. I feel like they took a few things away with all the yelling at the end though
Thing is, that happens due to the Witness now becoming more enraged since the guardians were saying "no" to it repeatedly and proceeded to attack it. It became absolutely pissed off and utterly desperately and was in its dying throws during Excision
@@10THPROPHET I know. didn't explain myself clearly - it wasn't that I was saying I didn't understand why The Witness was angry. The Witness was the first antagonist in Destiny that really embodied true menace ,he was alien but human enough, he had large soft eyes associated with gentility yet carried himself in a way that reinforced uncanny valley. forgetting Destiny for a moment I'd say The Witness is one of the top 10 best sci-fi boss characters I've ever seen and the design, history, intent and voice is absolutely superb. He doesn't demonstrate the same style or way of thinking when he talks to anyone, he causes catastrophes with a flick of his finger and he is able to inflict a world of catastrophic stasis through gross mutiliation of entire planets frozen in time forever - all while believing he is being benevolent. Of course it was angry - not at the guardian saying 'no" - it was because it was losing. The Witness had done everything, planned for everything, all potential obstacles were accounted for like when the Radial Vale got destroyed and The Witness knew he could use the Ghost. No matter the obstacle, it was ready. It wasn't that the guardian said no, or even that it took the guardian as a threat (remember it was in the Traveler for at least a year) but it was understanding that the dissenting voices would reveal their weakness. Their fear and anger was in the realization that their plan was not perfect and there was a possibility they would lose. Even after they had come so far and were able to absorb the Travelers power too All of that aside, there is basic psychology here that anger produces emotions in us at a certain level, and other levels anger just appears less menacing or even silly. There were several times The Witness was angry and yelled, but it retained his dark malice, like at the dissidents when yelling "WE ARE ONE" or "WE CUT YOU OUT" - but yelling to the guardians for the 100000th "I AM YOUR MAKER", "WHY DO YOU RESIST" is just textbook final boss nonsense and this very cold, calculating monstrosity of a conceptual villain became "final boss fodder"
@@TheWorstTypeto me I think the answer lies in how we defeat the witness. Since we destroy the statues and we “cut” the chorus of voices away, until there is only one. If you listen to its voice in excision you’ll notice the extra voices in the background of his voice are gone. Replaced only with one. A voice that is fearful of its own death. But also angry that its plan eons in the making is unfolding before its eyes.
@@wyatthyland9154 I know how we beat the witness, and I get to why the mechanics operate the way they do - my opinion that they removed perfection just a little bit, by turning him into a standard rpg/anime boss at the end is not changed
They should've heeded their Maker's one, simple request: to Take Its power, to let It in, and drive the universe to its singular winning pattern. But no, even that wouldn't have been enough for Them.
At this point I’m sure she probably knows, Savathun being Savathun I think wouldn’t be able to resist telling her, problem is I don’t think Xivu would care, lore paints her as a dangerously devoted fanatic, the kind that would be near impossible to convince otherwise
@@LaLloronaVTshe was now she’s moral locked out her throne world. She is already dead and we will likely see her finally in heresy. My assumption is a dungeon boss or and this is a very unlikely outcome but instead of a reprised raid we get another smaller 3-4 encounter raid that is focused on xivu and finally killing the god of war
@@adamboy0559 I think what’s going to happen is that Xivu is gonna try to claim Oryx’s throne world as her own throne world, we did get it confirmed that we’ll be able to visit the dreadnaught in heresy and I can’t think of any other reason why we would be going there unless Xivu had a batshit ace in the hole plan
Due to various small errors I’ve noticed in this video, a second version has been created. It includes some better quality audio as well as a piece missing from this video. Once that video starts getting traction, this one will be unlisted.
czcams.com/video/S_QumP8ZPjY/video.htmlsi=qUGXy-7-Ckn3isMu
The Witness' voice is like a masterclass in sound design.
I love how the Witness switches from We to I in the last dialogue
It's for a very simple reason. Only one member of the Collective had a say in what The Final Shape would be, one dominating will bending the minds of its cohorts to its every whim. The Dissenters were the ones aware of this fact, aware that this was not a communal desire, but a singular ambition. The "We... I... I don't understand" was the one lead mind realizing it had lost, that it was the only one who lost, and that every other member of the Collective was content to die because The Final Shape was not the contract, the soul binding agreement they had agreed to.
Funny, isn't it, that a hive mind's leader would die all alone.
Fitting, ironic, and delectable storytelling.
@@jonahsturdivant4488 Finally someone who ACTUALLY gave a trait answer about that
@@jonahsturdivant4488 Interesting read of the what happened. I also saw read of how that while "The Witness" is aware that its a culmination of various minds, it possesses its own consciousness, and when its destroyed it came to realize that the Precursor race as whole regretted its existence and that it was all alone.
@@jonahsturdivant4488I just saw it as the Witness shrinking down to one person cause the Guardians essentially unraveled it and all the little strings within it are being set free. Euphony describes it like this and the Echos are left over clumps from the Witness.
@@jonahsturdivant4488I think it's just the Dissenters gaining a more powerful voice within the Witness hivemind. Throughout the campaign, more and more minds start to dissent and realise that the final shape is not feasible. By the time of Excision, only a few radical Penitents actually fought on, and the "Cornerstones" we have to defeat are physical manifestations of those few remaining fanatics. So when the final blow gets landed, it's only one guy that still believes and fights on. Sad but fitting.
“Forsake the architect of your enslavement” goes so hard
“We know pain. Our purpose… is it’s end”- the witness
You know, I might be crazy, but I think during the excision battle you can actually hear more of its background voices disappearing, until it’s just one angry voice for the witness
We-We----I...don't understand.
Unbelievablly simple way to reflect just that
It’s showing we’re slowly ripping away the dissenters. One by one they are being freed. No longer being stuck with the witness. By the end it’s only a few voices left which are the ones who were the original group who wanted to bring the final shape
Nice choice of using the exo male voice for the cutscene from shadowkeep. The exo male in my opinion sounds the best whoever does the voice kills it everytime.
Sounds better than Master Chief ngl
I wouldn't go that far but the exo male voice is good @DominusAngel905
It's Peter Jessop, same voice actor as Sovereign (Mass Effect) & Wesker (Resident Evil 1 GameCube remake).
Forever will be my favorite voice for a villain starts all calm and tempting but also can change to be down right horrifying and angry
I listened so many times and I think there are 3 voices, it took me remembering old orchestration music concepts to get my ear to finally pin it down and it surprised me as there is one very deep male voice, one medium register male voice (The primary) but the middle is a smooth female voice! For whatever reason imaging that really just kept the intrigue so high with it.
I loved how well the voice compliments the inhumanness and inability to comprehend what it was and how it was like a walking paradox. When Zavala confronts it in the dark trying to join them and Terge says "I SEE WHAT YOU ARE" , and the Witness actually sounds almost friendly and curious': What do you see?
To then destroy him a few seconds later.
OOsh
@@TheWorstType It's been confirmed that every single voice for the Witness is just Brett Dalton, his voice was just changed/pitched multiple times. Also known as Grant Ward from Agents of Shield.
@@Bootstothemaximum WOOOW! that is amazing - they really did some exquisite pitch work to get those 3-4 layers. Thanks for letting me know!
@@Bootstothemaximum when i first found that out ( around season of the seraph), it blew my mind. he is such a good actor, as well as a voice actor
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"WHY ARE THESE FOOLS STILL BREATHING MY AIR??!! THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!"
The Witness is easily my favorite antagonist. The sound designed, its voice, its motives, its appearances, manipulation of characters and events. It was great. I really hope if the Winnower is the next big, main antagonist or at least presence, then it has just as amazing design in all regards. Perhaps we can see it more in-game too
Not enough love here for Brett Dalton. He played a similar villain towards the end of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. it's his voice behind the effects that really makes this feel like the big bad
8:04 is my favorite moment of the Witness, the voice going from calm and reserved to screaming and loud is amazing
The think this is the witness and Likly nezarec here. Calus is in a nightmare and nezarec is the one who haunts nightmares. The witness likely used this to scare him into submission with the helpless feeling calus would have along with its true form with the change in tone would scare anyone to death.
the witness is soo underrated, bungie didn't give him enough cutscenes
Personally I think they did too much damage with his cartoonish design. In terms of all other elements, the faces in the smoke, the living yet synthetic clothing all of it was perfect except for his face. The voice killed it, numerous voices have been badass since forever. The Master from fallout still gives me goosebumps.
@@user-he2dw5do9ithe original design that it had with red skin was far better. Made it look far more inhuman and alive
It is a it not a he or she a whole civilization turned into the witness so it is boy and girl so it is a it not a him or her
I almost think that SHODAN was the inspiration for the voice of the Witness.
Well done, this was a PHENOMENAL voice for an antagonist - it being so calm, cold and clipped only added to his menace. I feel like they took a few things away with all the yelling at the end though
Thing is, that happens due to the Witness now becoming more enraged since the guardians were saying "no" to it repeatedly and proceeded to attack it. It became absolutely pissed off and utterly desperately and was in its dying throws during Excision
@@10THPROPHET I know. didn't explain myself clearly - it wasn't that I was saying I didn't understand why The Witness was angry. The Witness was the first antagonist in Destiny that really embodied true menace ,he was alien but human enough, he had large soft eyes associated with gentility yet carried himself in a way that reinforced uncanny valley. forgetting Destiny for a moment I'd say The Witness is one of the top 10 best sci-fi boss characters I've ever seen and the design, history, intent and voice is absolutely superb.
He doesn't demonstrate the same style or way of thinking when he talks to anyone, he causes catastrophes with a flick of his finger and he is able to inflict a world of catastrophic stasis through gross mutiliation of entire planets frozen in time forever - all while believing he is being benevolent.
Of course it was angry - not at the guardian saying 'no" - it was because it was losing. The Witness had done everything, planned for everything, all potential obstacles were accounted for like when the Radial Vale got destroyed and The Witness knew he could use the Ghost. No matter the obstacle, it was ready.
It wasn't that the guardian said no, or even that it took the guardian as a threat (remember it was in the Traveler for at least a year) but it was understanding that the dissenting voices would reveal their weakness. Their fear and anger was in the realization that their plan was not perfect and there was a possibility they would lose. Even after they had come so far and were able to absorb the Travelers power too
All of that aside, there is basic psychology here that anger produces emotions in us at a certain level, and other levels anger just appears less menacing or even silly.
There were several times The Witness was angry and yelled, but it retained his dark malice, like at the dissidents when yelling "WE ARE ONE" or "WE CUT YOU OUT" - but yelling to the guardians for the 100000th "I AM YOUR MAKER", "WHY DO YOU RESIST" is just textbook final boss nonsense and this very cold, calculating monstrosity of a conceptual villain became "final boss fodder"
@@TheWorstTypeto me I think the answer lies in how we defeat the witness. Since we destroy the statues and we “cut” the chorus of voices away, until there is only one. If you listen to its voice in excision you’ll notice the extra voices in the background of his voice are gone. Replaced only with one. A voice that is fearful of its own death. But also angry that its plan eons in the making is unfolding before its eyes.
@@wyatthyland9154 I know how we beat the witness, and I get to why the mechanics operate the way they do - my opinion that they removed perfection just a little bit, by turning him into a standard rpg/anime boss at the end is not changed
when it speaks you know your probably in trouble
yOuR pAiN iS pOisOnnnn
Destiny 2 Shadowkeep:
We are not your friend, we are not your enemy. We are your... *S a l v a t i o n*
Coldest sentences in the whole game
Idk what he says to calus is pretty brutal
@@saladmancer4802was it ENOUGH or SILENCE?
Good shit dude
1:41 shrieker go boom?
The Witness: Silence, you insolent speck
Ghost: 😢
Me: *enraged dad mode activated*
god i love it so much. incredible character. rest in bepis, wit 😭❤
his reward is silence
he convinced me right there
21:05 lol
we know pain
natsuki subaru: me too my witness, me too
They should've heeded their Maker's one, simple request: to Take Its power, to let It in, and drive the universe to its singular winning pattern. But no, even that wouldn't have been enough for Them.
You missed the memory with nezarec
czcams.com/video/zNm7OAKyhnA/video.htmlsi=m4-gNVU5ZmHwXu1k
3:50 in
Ah, crud.
@@Vincent-ni8fnah, missing one isn’t bad.
@@Vincent-ni8fnalso missed first calus cutscene
@@Deltadog55 Nope.
@Vincent-ni8fn ok nvm I probably got you confused with another video that did end up missing it.
8:56
Witness: U LIV WIFAUT PERPOSE
Me: YES I AM LIVING WITHOUT PURPOSE!
I love the meta dialogue in iconoclasm lol. I felt called out
19:06 guardian: b-but guns! ):
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Am I the only one who thinks it starts to sound like Markiplier at the end lol
Witness can get it
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Hey out of curiosity did the witness ever say to xivu oh by the way I’m why you became the way you are by deceiving your sister
At this point I’m sure she probably knows, Savathun being Savathun I think wouldn’t be able to resist telling her, problem is I don’t think Xivu would care, lore paints her as a dangerously devoted fanatic, the kind that would be near impossible to convince otherwise
@@LaLloronaVTshe was now she’s moral locked out her throne world. She is already dead and we will likely see her finally in heresy. My assumption is a dungeon boss or and this is a very unlikely outcome but instead of a reprised raid we get another smaller 3-4 encounter raid that is focused on xivu and finally killing the god of war
@@adamboy0559 I think what’s going to happen is that Xivu is gonna try to claim Oryx’s throne world as her own throne world, we did get it confirmed that we’ll be able to visit the dreadnaught in heresy and I can’t think of any other reason why we would be going there unless Xivu had a batshit ace in the hole plan