If Sony were smart, they'd release all these classic gems to consumers via DVD, downloads, etc. and their profits would reflect from the demand of past, new and future Y&R watchers.
+Mr Cee I'm sure Sony has heard from the fans on the request for DVD and background music CD release, just as they've heard from the fans on the state of the show it's been for a while now.
I watched this when I was 10 years old with my Mom. The plot was so awesome! Every time I hear the opening song I think of my Mom and I miss her so much! 😢❤
If Jeanne Cooper hadn't been such a great actress, Katherine easily could have become a one-dimensional villain. But she always made you root for her even when she was wrong.
@Topazthecat she only won one Emmy???? That's a shame, she was the best actress on the show. This show was so much better with Katherine and John in it. I miss those days.
I read Jeanne's autobiography and before she did Y&R she guest starred on so many tv shows she maybe wasn't a household name but she had a great career and worked constantly. And then was cast as Kay and was on there for what 40 years? I mean she had a career many actors would envy. She got to do what she loved. I miss her so much! 💅
@@tarakimble8409 one time she told off Esther and said "IM TALKING ABOUT NEEE-NAH!!" and the nails and rings were in Esther's face LMAO. It was during the height of the Phillip/Cricket/Nina triangle which was when I started watching and instantly loved Kay! (And hated Esther and still do!)
The friction between Jill and Kay was great. Neither was completely a villian; neither the hero. From one angle, Kay was sympathetic because she lost her husband to an affair with her 'friend" Jill. On the other hand, Jill was the one who made Phillip happy, loved him, and lost him forever due solely to Kay's selfishness. Through decades of their scheming and backstabbing, sometimes I rooted for Jill and sometimes for Kay. Why Y&R doesn't spend time investing in rivalries like this is beyond me. This stuff produced many, many decent plots for decades for Y&R.
@@yavvel He was talking about the state of their former marriage when she stepped on the gas pedal and took them over the side of the cliff. So yeah. It was on purpose. She denied it for a long time but when Phillip was born, she finally admitted it. And then she tried to take the baby from Jill.
@@yavvel I think that has been the unresolved question for nearly 50 years? I would guess that, originally, we were suppose to believe that the distraught Kay wanted to kill herself and to take Phillip to the grave with her. Once it became clear to the writers that Kay was popular with the viewers, the "suicide element" was watered-down into just being a tragic drunk driving accident. It is hard to portray someone as a "heroine" (ensuring longevity on the show) when she has intentionally killed her husband. The show has done similar things with other characters ---- Michael Baldwin and Phyllis Summers, both brought onto the show as villains. Michael sexually harassed Cricket and attempted to kill her when she complained and destroyed his career. Phyllis tried to manipulate her way into being Danny's wife, including threatening and attempting to kill folks (especially Cricket) who stood in her way. The show has significantly downplayed the bad history of both characters when it was clear they were popular with viewers.
@@eugenesmith5173yep. Same can be said for Kevin Fisher and to a lesser degree Lauren Fenmore. Part of the redemption was karma, even if indirect. Phyllis was framed by Diane in 2002 and had a psychotic event in jail. As for Lauren, let’s just remember Sheila. Lauren eventually apologized to Traci for all the torment she inflicted.
The crash was never filmed It goes from Kay speeding up whilst driving Phillip,to another character scene in the show,then at the end of the episode,the return is a cop on a motor cycle radioing in that a car had driven off the cliff
Yikes some very dark times on Y&R after Phillip died. Most certainly Jill got the short end of the stick and Katherine got away with murder. What always intrigued me though was that Katherine didn't stop after Phillip died. She had Jill's marriage thrown out and kept her infant son from having the Chancellor name. No remorse. She then went after Jill when she and John were courting (the first time). Of course there was a big gap in time so I don't know what else happened. I think you can really appreciate how much Jill really hated Katherine.
And to add insult to injury, Genoa City treated Katherine like she was a saint. At her funeral, nobody mentioned Kay had murdered her own husband out of jealousy, to stop him from being with Jill.
Messylin Very true. Everyone seemed to forget about that. The same can be said for Phyllis and Michael. Didn't Michael Baldwin actually kill a woman before he was sent to prison for the crimes against Christine? I don't think he was ever punished for the murder.
Jill was no innocent victim. She was the person who invented gaslighting. When she decided to gaslight Kay into thinking there was no baby, Philip was still alive, and that Kay was drinking by sending cases of booze over to the mansion. What Kay did was wrong but Jill was no innocent victim either.
Katherine got away with a lot back then first making Phillp and Jill's marriage not legal because he married her on his deathbed and denying that Phillip the third was not her husbands son and not letting him have his birth right to his estate. But Katherine and Phillip Jr loved each other. Katherine was more of a mother to him then Jill was for sure.
Katherine wanted to BUY Jill's child. She offered Jill $1 Million for him. She wanted to raise Phillip's child, Phillip's ONLY child. I bet she wanted Jill's child because her child was all that was left of Phillip and to her, it would be like having a part of Phillip back.
I was a little girl then, I wish I could see those early episodes. A few are on CZcams. I think Katherine was a decade older than Phillip, but not old enough to be his mom.
Katherine flashed back to just before the car crash in the mid-late 2000’s. She (in that present day) referred to it as a horrible car accident, but that it was all her fault. I haven’t seen where Kay admits to anything more, but I’ve read that she did admit to purposefully crashing the car to Jill once Phillip was born.
She was an alcoholic even before Phillip died. It was implied that Katherine became an alcoholic because she was neglected by Phillip, and bored all day.
I remember when Jill and Mr. Chancellor fell in love with each other. But to Mrs. Chancellor if she couldn't have him, nobody else was going to, certainly not Jill. And so Mrs. C talked him into getting into the car with her, they wrecked, and he died in the hospital. I think he married Jill in the hospital, however the marriage was no legal as Mrs. C claimed she was unfit at the time she signed the divorce paper's. I'm to tired to explain it better.
There is a clip of Kate remembering it and it does not show the actual accident but her driving talking to him begging him to give her another chance and he says he has other plans and asks her to let him out of the car but she speeds up.
@@cluvsonj I remember the scene where Katherine persuades him to get into the car at the airport, and you're thinking, "No, Philip! Don't do it! She's drunk!"
In the actual episode,there are no shots of the crash... It goes from Kay speeding up to another scene in the show,then at the end of the episode,is a cop on a motor cycle radioing in that a car had driven off the cliff
Yeah it was on a mixed vhs tape I'm the original uploader I edited the intro after it bcos this scene was actually midway through the hour long episode... It's building up to the "Who Shot Jill?" series of episodes
Richard Cleveland she didn't she got back the house due to her being drunk when she signed the papers even thought Jill had "married" phillip in the hospital before he died.
@@rhondathompson6942 Jess Walton has been playing Jill since 1987. A lot of today's fans probably don't even know who Brenda Dickson is. There would be an outrage if there was a change at this point
@@marieanderson5989 naw if they let brenda dickson do it like this y&r would grow there fan base let the real jill go after victor i promise the fans would just love it
If Sony were smart, they'd release all these classic gems to consumers via DVD, downloads, etc. and their profits would reflect from the demand of past, new and future Y&R watchers.
+Mr Cee I'm sure Sony has heard from the fans on the request for DVD and background music CD release, just as they've heard from the fans on the state of the show it's been for a while now.
The show sucks now
How can we make this happen??
I would love for this and The Bold And The Beautiful from the beginning on DVD!
Add All My Children to the list!
I watched this when I was 10 years old with my Mom. The plot was so awesome!
Every time I hear the opening song I think of my Mom and I miss her so much! 😢❤
I used to watch it with my late mum also, I even named her the duchess. RIP mum 🥲❤
If Jeanne Cooper hadn't been such a great actress, Katherine easily could have become a one-dimensional villain. But she always made you root for her even when she was wrong.
@Topazthecat she only won one Emmy???? That's a shame, she was the best actress on the show. This show was so much better with Katherine and John in it. I miss those days.
I read Jeanne's autobiography and before she did Y&R she guest starred on so many tv shows she maybe wasn't a household name but she had a great career and worked constantly. And then was cast as Kay and was on there for what 40 years? I mean she had a career many actors would envy. She got to do what she loved. I miss her so much! 💅
I never rooted for Katherine
I never rooted for her... she was on way past her prime
She was on a few B and W Perry Masons. She is awesome!
from 1985 to 1989, the best years. Original Jack and Jill, Terry Lester and Brenda Dickson, Loved it.
Honest to God, the best relationship in all of soap opera history -- Katherine and (original) Jill.
There will never be another like it.
TimsDale4ever yes I believe they had the best chemistry
Yes, they were "must see" tv every day unless the stuff that is airing most of the time now on the show!
Katherine &Jill is the greatest rivalry in Soap History.
Y&R always had the best background music.Music qualit always put y&r above the rest.
Why did they get rid of the dramatic music on this show I don't know?
vrj40 me either and the news tunes they do have aren’t nearly as good as these vintage ones
Totally agree. No other soap came close to the music Y & R had.
One of the greatest story arcs ever... Katherine Chancellor vs. Jill Foster
This is when soaps were awesome!!!!!
Definitely was
i want brenda back playing jill they could let her lose on victor give him a good s/l for a change
what you said
I love Kay's long long nails and all her rings and how she talked with her hands!!!!
Knowing this show,Kays Rubies were probably Real
Loves those kays knock out Jill rings
@@tarakimble8409 one time she told off Esther and said "IM TALKING ABOUT NEEE-NAH!!" and the nails and rings were in Esther's face LMAO. It was during the height of the Phillip/Cricket/Nina triangle which was when I started watching and instantly loved Kay! (And hated Esther and still do!)
The friction between Jill and Kay was great. Neither was completely a villian; neither the hero. From one angle, Kay was sympathetic because she lost her husband to an affair with her 'friend" Jill. On the other hand, Jill was the one who made Phillip happy, loved him, and lost him forever due solely to Kay's selfishness. Through decades of their scheming and backstabbing, sometimes I rooted for Jill and sometimes for Kay. Why Y&R doesn't spend time investing in rivalries like this is beyond me. This stuff produced many, many decent plots for decades for Y&R.
So did she kill him on purpose or was it just an accident/her drunken driving
@@yavvel He was talking about the state of their former marriage when she stepped on the gas pedal and took them over the side of the cliff. So yeah. It was on purpose. She denied it for a long time but when Phillip was born, she finally admitted it. And then she tried to take the baby from Jill.
@@yavvel I think that has been the unresolved question for nearly 50 years? I would guess that, originally, we were suppose to believe that the distraught Kay wanted to kill herself and to take Phillip to the grave with her. Once it became clear to the writers that Kay was popular with the viewers, the "suicide element" was watered-down into just being a tragic drunk driving accident. It is hard to portray someone as a "heroine" (ensuring longevity on the show) when she has intentionally killed her husband.
The show has done similar things with other characters ---- Michael Baldwin and Phyllis Summers, both brought onto the show as villains. Michael sexually harassed Cricket and attempted to kill her when she complained and destroyed his career. Phyllis tried to manipulate her way into being Danny's wife, including threatening and attempting to kill folks (especially Cricket) who stood in her way. The show has significantly downplayed the bad history of both characters when it was clear they were popular with viewers.
@@eugenesmith5173yep. Same can be said for Kevin Fisher and to a lesser degree Lauren Fenmore. Part of the redemption was karma, even if indirect.
Phyllis was framed by Diane in 2002 and had a psychotic event in jail. As for Lauren, let’s just remember Sheila. Lauren eventually apologized to Traci for all the torment she inflicted.
OH MY WORD!! That literally gave me chills!!!! It would have been impossible for to have seen that. Thank you.
Holy crap the best ever
I dedicate this program to my mama Mrs.Vers.Mse.Robinson my 😇RIP❤️Mack
Jill actually was right. Katherine DID kill him.
The crash was never filmed
It goes from Kay speeding up whilst driving Phillip,to another character scene in the show,then at the end of the episode,the return is a cop on a motor cycle radioing in that a car had driven off the cliff
What happened to those fabulous early videos of Katherine and Jill.
Omg how love this show, from the beginning to now.
Again the original Snapper Foster William Grey Espy was🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
I agree!!!
Good one.Katherine rocks
This was building up to the "Who Shot Jill?" series of episodes,
And after Jill was shot,a drunk Katherine was suspect number one !
Yikes some very dark times on Y&R after Phillip died.
Most certainly Jill got the short end of the stick and Katherine got away with murder.
What always intrigued me though was that Katherine didn't stop after Phillip died. She had Jill's marriage thrown out and kept her infant son from having the Chancellor name. No remorse. She then went after Jill when she and John were courting (the first time). Of course there was a big gap in time so I don't know what else happened.
I think you can really appreciate how much Jill really hated Katherine.
And to add insult to injury, Genoa City treated Katherine like she was a saint. At her funeral, nobody mentioned Kay had murdered her own husband out of jealousy, to stop him from being with Jill.
Messylin Very true. Everyone seemed to forget about that. The same can be said for Phyllis and Michael. Didn't Michael Baldwin actually kill a woman before he was sent to prison for the crimes against Christine? I don't think he was ever punished for the murder.
HunterWrangler except no one treats Phyllis like a saint. Everyone knows she ain’t shit lol
Eddy6159 well that’s true. Though some ignored (or didn’t know about) her past (in the ‘90s) deeds.
Jill was no innocent victim. She was the person who invented gaslighting. When she decided to gaslight Kay into thinking there was no baby, Philip was still alive, and that Kay was drinking by sending cases of booze over to the mansion. What Kay did was wrong but Jill was no innocent victim either.
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Katherine got away with a lot back then first making Phillp and Jill's marriage not legal because he married her on his deathbed and denying that Phillip the third was not her husbands son and not letting him have his birth right to his estate. But Katherine and Phillip Jr loved each other. Katherine was more of a mother to him then Jill was for sure.
Katherine wanted to BUY Jill's child. She offered Jill $1 Million for him. She wanted to raise Phillip's child, Phillip's ONLY child. I bet she wanted Jill's child because her child was all that was left of Phillip and to her, it would be like having a part of Phillip back.
@@naturesfinest4871 I changed it.
I was a little girl then, I wish I could see those early episodes. A few are on CZcams. I think Katherine was a decade older than Phillip, but not old enough to be his mom.
Rick where is tomorrow's episode? I'm upset that you haven't posted it yet!
Say what you want about Jill, BUT she was right about Kay in this instance!
Damn Catherine looked old as hell she was only 47 here!!!!
Lol, probably why she got that facelift
LMAO
What thought she was like 70s 😂
@@ManuelGuzman067 OMG me too 😂😂😂😂
Well I'll be damned... Lol 😆
I think the is 76 NOT 75 Thanks for the upload !!
Depending in which country you're in
In the USA it was 1975
It happened just as Jill was saying in this video.
Katherine flashed back to just before the car crash in the mid-late 2000’s. She (in that present day) referred to it as a horrible car accident, but that it was all her fault.
I haven’t seen where Kay admits to anything more, but I’ve read that she did admit to purposefully crashing the car to Jill once Phillip was born.
What was the reason Kat turned to the bottle .was it because phillip left her
She was an alcoholic even before Phillip died. It was implied that Katherine became an alcoholic because she was neglected by Phillip, and bored all day.
And Katherine slept with younger ranch hands as well.
I remember when Jill and Mr. Chancellor fell in love with each other. But to Mrs. Chancellor if she couldn't have him, nobody else was going to, certainly not Jill. And so Mrs. C talked him into getting into the car with her, they wrecked, and he died in the hospital. I think he married Jill in the hospital, however the marriage was no legal as Mrs. C claimed she was unfit at the time she signed the divorce paper's. I'm to tired to explain it better.
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I wonder if there are clips of the actual accident out there...
There is a clip of Kate remembering it and it does not show the actual accident but her driving talking to him begging him to give her another chance and he says he has other plans and asks her to let him out of the car but she speeds up.
@@cluvsonj I remember the scene where Katherine persuades him to get into the car at the airport, and you're thinking, "No, Philip! Don't do it! She's drunk!"
In the actual episode,there are no shots of the crash...
It goes from Kay speeding up to another scene in the show,then at the end of the episode,is a cop on a motor cycle radioing in that a car had driven off the cliff
So did she kill him on purpose or was it just an accident/her drunken driving
Why is the the beginning of Blondie's Heart of Glass video at the end lol
Must be on a mixed VHS tape...LOL
@@naturesfinest4871
You guessed rightly
It was on a mixed tape,vhs 👏🤓
Yeah it was on a mixed vhs tape
I'm the original uploader
I edited the intro after it bcos this scene was actually midway through the hour long episode... It's building up to the "Who Shot Jill?" series of episodes
My Tape To Be Shown At Parties,My Gay Male Friends Loved The Katherine Versus Jill Feud
Mixed in with music 🤩🍷🍸🍹🥤🧋...🏳🌈
Vous avez pas des anciennes mais en français
Not General City , drama city
You will pay!!! Lol awesome 2:04
Kathrine killed him and she never went to jail
Richard Cleveland she didn't she got back the house due to her being drunk when she signed the papers even thought Jill had "married" phillip in the hospital before he died.
Kaye was drunk when she picked Philip up from the airport
I guess back then DUI manslaughter wasn’t a thing.
Jill was almost a Jill sandwich.
When Brenda Dickson left Y&R I stopped watching the show. Jess Walton playing Jill was not good as Brenda Dickson
Jess Walton's Jill is mediocre and Brenda's Jill was played superbly.
same here they made that mistake they need to bring brenda back
Agree
@@rhondathompson6942 Jess Walton has been playing Jill since 1987. A lot of today's fans probably don't even know who Brenda Dickson is. There would be an outrage if there was a change at this point
@@marieanderson5989 naw if they let brenda dickson do it like this y&r would grow there fan base let the real jill go after victor i promise the fans would just love it