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Theo has definitely barely watched Declan Rice play football and is just going off the hype.
just a bit weird your so obsessed with a man over a non serious podcast. And you have no basis for this
@@r4____377No basis? All he ever does it speak shit.
@@r4____377non serious Theo takes it serious and is still delusional af
@@r4____377 just a bit weird you defend a man who doesn"t even know you but you defend him like you are his wife or something
Typical arsenal fan
kdb won a treble and had almost twice as many goal contributions as odegaard. In what way did odegaard have a better season?
Odegard matched Lampard record for most non-pen goals in a season for a midfielder.
It was quite close between them
@@joshdawson5850de Bruyne also had a rough patch just before and post world cup 4 goal contributions in 14 games still had an amazing season but it’s arguable Odegaard was more consistent
In the H2H games between arsenal and city, KDB showed how much better he's better than Odegaard on one leg ffs!
@@joshdawson5850 he also choked in every competition he played, got many goals but his assist numbers were very poor. He really wasnt close to kdb, especially if you consider the trophies
They all shit on Lewis for his ridiculous Newcastle takes but that is truly one of the craziest things that’s been said on this podcast. And odegaard is fantastic
Thank you Tom for the respect on Curtis Jones and our midfield. Just because Szoboszlai hasn't played in a prem game it doesnt make him shit
No one disrespected Curtis Jones. But saying he's better than Joelinton is comical. Curtis Jones plays England u21 were as Joelinton plays for Brazils Men's team
If Curtis Jones played for United you'd call him worse then McTominay. He's genuinely as average as they come
@@zombieruler9724 Worse than McTominay is crazy
@@zombieruler9724bajacetic clear anyway
@@TheYorkshireGeordie Joelinton has two Brazil caps both in friendlies at the age of 26. If I could be bothered I would love to come back to this comment at the end of the season when Curtis Jones is accepted as an absolute baller.
Tom is actually the only person with ball knowledge it's insane
facts
Just because he says it convincingly doesn't mean it's true, Curtis Jones gets nowhere near newcastles starting lineup get your head out his arse
@@soltea7926That’s not a great shout tbf but he honestly is the only person on the pod with even a bit of ball knowledge, the other 3 literally have not got a clue what they are talking about they’re just biased and get all of their ball knowledge from what they hear other people say.
not in this episode
@@soltea7926so funny watching after Liverpool’s midfield are cooking
Putting Liverpool as of NOW ahead of Newcastle is a bit crazy since they don't even have a DM
Tom Garratt just seems to hate anything Newcastle related, either that or he’s been told to hate on them for views
Since when does a midfield ‘need’ a DM?
@@owlkasai541 since forever
@@owlkasai541since the creation of football.....
Got Bajcetic ? Literally Liverpool’s best player before his injury. Thiago can fill that role as well, extremely underrated defensively.
In what world did Martin O have a better season than kdb just asking
they just look at goals and that's it
@@visheshsonkar5786 that’s what I was thinking 😂
Odegaard was absolutely unbelievable for arsenal last season, and KDB was still a level ahead of him
@@user-vm8ws5nw4q yeah man it's just KDB. But Odegaard had his greatest season ever so congratulations to him.
No one remembers it cos they did the treble but de Bruyne went off the boil post world cup and then was back to himself for the run in he was on track to smash the assist record after the first 10 games and didn’t even match it
The ball knowledge that garrot speaks is absolutely world class
He has worse ball knowledge then my blind deaf Nan
@@thomaswillis7338 nah he is actually quality
@@thomaswillis7338 he's the only one that isn't brainwashed by the Newcastle fan
Not after saying Jones is better than Joelinton
@@TallackOfficial Jones is clear in the cm role
theres no way people genuinely believe odegaard is a better player than bruno
They have lost their mind 😂
Bruno didn't even play with a striker last season and he was still amazing. I don't know how these Odegaard comparisons have even surfaced.
He’d get more credit if he wasn’t a whiney prick
Bruno is shite
@@alexmeechan9701 huh? Who was Odegaard playing with? Mbappe?
Dont get me wrong Lewis' head is in the clouds when it comes to Newcastle but its so hard to watch Tom. He must barely watch football or his hate for Newcastle just overpowers any sort of decent football discussion.
I'm so glad Tom is on pitchside
Saying Rice is better than casemiro is like saying Bellingham is better than Modric. 1 season means nothing in the scheme of things
But you'd rather have Bellingham right now over Modric.
@@muhammadqasim3587 That's on paper. Playing for Dortmund and Real Madrid are 2 totally different things. The pressure, expectations, competition is way higher!
@@muhammadqasim3587that's just dumb
@@limi. Yes picking a talented 20 year old CM who started for England in the World Cup over a 37 year old veteran in the last year of his contract and on the verge of retirement is "dumb"
@@muhammadqasim3587You’re picking him for the future because he’s younger and got a career ahead of him. But Modric is 5x better than Bellingham is
Casemiro played more games (51) last season in all competitions than in any other season in his career. Myth that he doesn't play enough. Rice is a really good player but he is not better than Casemiro. If casemiro was at any other club, including Arsenal the narrative would be different and everyone would be sucking him off. Class player who made a huge difference last year.
Theo: "Odegaard had a far better season than Bruno last year, check the stats"
Bruno stats for Man United 22/23: 14 goals + 15 assists
Odegaard stats for Arsenal 22/23: 15 goals + 8 assists
Bruno played about 60 games
he's better than odegaard only in diver and moaning
Odegard in prem got 15 goals and 8 assists, Bruno got 8 goals and 8 assists
@@shahfc7585Bruno only had 1 goalscorer in front of him. Odegard had 3. I’d love to see how he’d do with weghorst in front of him
Bruno's first season for us is something odegaard could never do the amount of goals and assists he got was ridiculous and no one will come close in the foreseeable future
Joelinton is so much better than tom gives him credit for thats insane
But not as good as what Lewis make him out to be
@ryanfox7847 nah joelinton is one of the players he rates fairly, bruno and pope on the other hand 🤣
Yeah but Lewis makes him out like he’s scholes, I can see why Tom hates Newcastle slightly bc Lewis keeps saying they have the most underrated players and also the best players in the world
@@ryanfox7847joelinton is literally one of the leagues best players
I know he's injured a lot, but its astounding how no one has mentioned thiago, especially when everyones floundering for a 3rd liv mid, and mount and tonali are getting disclaimers for a good season.
He’s injured too often to be able to get a consistent run of games together. He’s good when he plays but I’d rather someone not quite as good who plays 30+ games over someone slightly better who barely plays 20 games a season.
@@bendavidjohnbut they based their predictions on disclaimers. "If mount has a good season", "if tonali performs well", you could just as easily say "if thiago stays fit for a while".
@@thedunyadoneya2628 Well Liverpool are actively looking for a 3rd midfielder to sign, even if Thiago stays fit I think his best days have passed unfortunately.
@@bendavidjohnif thiago stays fit, he'll get in the 11, no doubt. Doesnt matter who has to make way for him. And im a liverpool fan.
What's the saying “Availability is the best ability” He's incredible when he plays but that's also when he can play. Would rather have an average player that is fit and can play most games. Then a good player who is going to be injured for most of the season.
Joelinton was Newcastles second highest rated player last season....ahead of bruno,isak,wilson and just behind tripper
Love the content lads keep it up. Big up reev
Am I the only one that thinks the Spurs midfield of Bissouma, Bentancur and maddison could cook under Ange ?
Agree
4:01 Tom is too funny 😂😂
It’s mad how people say Casemiro over rodri based on his ucl stats, he’s a class legendary footballer but right now he’s not as good as rodri but still probably top 3 holding midfielders in the world..
Agreed. Casemiro is class but Rodri is just on another level to him right now.
Everyone sleeps on villa midfield. McGinn-Kamara-Luiz-Ramsey went so under the radar, basically ran every game last season!!
Not against Newcastle on Saturday
@@dw9652and where are they now ?
@@harveyblissett8308climbing the table mate dw
Szoboszlai, Mac allister and seven up.
This has actually aged like milk 😂
@@karmaascendant3936 Yeap..
Going to be another painful watch
theo is bound to be beat up on the street by somebody soon
Can’t get my head around the Bruno and odegard comparison and the partey and Casemiro
Some very good football knowledge on display
tom has had an absolute HOWLER with that newcastle opinion🤣🤣🤣🤣
and now?
Another L take incoming
Rodri and KDB are the two best midfielders in the world, and Bernardo is in that conversation. They have a genuinely insane midfield
Where would you rank Liverpool now with Mac10 Szobo and Caicedo?
Does anybody have the link to the super 6
City, United, Arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool
Casemiro > Partey
Mount < Rice
Bruno > Odegaard
casemiro is below average on the ball mount is just shite and bruno has no ball retention it’s probably the 2nd worst midfield out of them 5
Casemiro played 51 games last season in all comps (more than rice) but Theo says he hasn’t played 😂
Is there a pitchside fpl league?
I'm 95% sure that Theo didn't watch Declan Rice play for 1000+ minutes last season. He's only basing it on hype and Arsenal signing him. He's so overrated. And Mount wasn't a starter for England at the world cup. A 19 year old owns him
not any 19 year old though mate lmao
“A 19 year old”. Go on.. say which 19 year old it is.
@@deangreen2567Bellingham.
Casemiro vs Partey. Partey had 5 more games played. Casemiro more goals, more assists, 1 less clean sheet, more blocks, more tackles, more clearances, less goals conceded. not even close
It's obvious Tom is the only one on here that doesn't only watch arsenal
Doesn't watch them at all if he thinks Bruno had a better season than Odegaard
@@rupert2402he did though?
@@alex_badawy 23 goal contributions to 16 mate
@@rupert2402 That doesn't matter G/A are not everything, if you want to go by stats Bruno created the most goal scoring opportunities last season, played the most mins and consistently gets 20 G/A every season hes a better the Odegaard.
And that is not as swayed by the English bias (which I always think is fair, I usually favour southamerican players). Theo and Reev are just too much at times.
Does pitchside have an FPL league also?
My Top 5:
1. City
2. Man Utd
3. Arsenal
4. Newcastle
5. Liverpool
As a Liverpool fan, i think we should appreciate even without right now a CDM, the trio Mac Szobo Thiago
Why didn’t bajcetic get a mention doesnt he start for Liverpool?
Odegaard was one of our only good players during the poor spell at the end of the season. Single-handedly rallied us in the Southampton comeback
Coming back to this after 7 months and Liverpool is arguably the 2nd best midfield
Curtis Jones getting into Newcastles midfield is a horrible take🤣
Jones over Joelinton needs to be reported to PETA
He’s better than joelinton. His summer and end of last season was class. Don’t get mad just my opinion 🤷♂️
@aidentaylor6072 talking shit mate your just as bad as garret the carrot
@@aidentaylor6072 In no reality is Curtis Jones better than Joelinton.
@@aidentaylor6072stay off drugs mate.
Now that Liverpool have signed Caicedo. A midfield three of Caicedo, Mac Allister and Szoboszlai is scary good.
lmfao
@@nehalcm what's so funny?
@@garymaidman625 oh boy you really don’t know
@@nehalcm nope, I've seen a lot of Szoboszlai, he has the potential to be as good as KDB, Mac Allister is a WC winner and is better than Enzo and Caicedo was a beast for Brighton along with Mac Allister last season. Liverpool have the best attack in the league and now arguably the best midfield.
this is always a tough watch when you’re all debating football, and it seems tom is the only one that genuinely watches and understands football🤣I mean, we can’t whinge, the content from you boys is always class but, wow
Rare Tom L ibr when he said about Liverpool having a better midfield den Newcastle
Tom W tbh, Curtis jones this season would walk into Newcastle and proved this season
James Maddison, Yves Bissouma, Rosrigo Bentancur
Better than Liverpool’s
So shocked no one is talking about Thiago🙆🏾♂️
not shocked at all... He is very talented but he started 18 PL games last season, That's just not worth the discussion.
Tonali in champions League final when did that happened?
Tom has earned my respect completely right on most things but some of his takes are shocking
Rodri x KDB x Bernardo
Rice x Ødegaard x Rapist
Tonali x Bruno G x Joelinton
Allister x Szoboszlai x Jones
Casemiro x Rat x Mount
can you play super 6 outsidr the UK??
Theo needs to check the stats on Bruno vs odegard. Bruno had more assists and goals in all comps. He also had more assists in the prem. and that was a bad season. Also played every game.
Lewis has genuinely driven Tom mental , Curtis Jones would be sent out on loan if he was at Newcastle
He'd walk straight into their midfield when fit
@@LumpShorts Did you forget to take your tablets ?
@@shluglez4128 common sense if you take off the one-season-tainted Newcastle glasses
@@LumpShortsCurtis Jones has played well in about 10 games in his life
Tom=no ball knowledge as a toon fan that was stressful
As a nufc fan he is saying Bruno carry’s our midfield but Joelinton isn’t just as big of a miss or bigger
casemiro is better then rice, and the stats actually say bruno is better then odegaard. Id take bruno over odegaard every single day of the week, hes a better player, a better captain and does more for the team the odegaard does for arsenal. saying liverpools midfield is better then newcastles though is lowkey a crime.
Surprised Villa didnt get a sniff, Tielimans, Douglas Luiz, McGinn, Kamara, Ramsey.
I wonder where Liverpools midfield comes now with Caicedo
why don’t pitchside upload their full podcasts w videos i’d enjoy watching that, more interesting than listening on podcasts/spotify
Villas midfield pisses all over Newcastles and Liverpools, Luiz, Kamara, Tielemans, McGinn & Ramsey
City coming first
saying ødegaard had a better season than KDB is genuinely outrageous
This guy and Joelinton is a greater obsession than Piers Morgan and anyone that doesn’t reply to his messages within two minutes
Completely agree with tom
Curtis Jones does not get into the Newcastle midfield, I honestly don’t think he gets into the Brighton team who will finish around 8th
Tom says people drop when shit hit that fan so by logic other midfielders like Bruno didn't get get the fan working because why didn't they do better?
Hate to say it as a united fan but liverpools midfield is class with caicedo macallister and szoboszlai is clear of Newcastles
Tom is on one today.
10:27 UCL final ? Tonali? He was milan player
In what world Martin Odegard had better season than KDB? You guys are so deluded ! Lives in speculation and what imaginary world I dont understand
With caicedo confirmed and lavia pretty mutch done chelsea are surely higher
Rice didn’t carry us at all last season, he wasn’t anyway near his best until the final 2/3 months of the season when the team started working better together
Tom having a rough day in this clip
New to the channel and the panel's context etc but I was just wondering why Tom is so angry at the thought of a successful Newcastle United again this season? What is it about NUFC that gets to him so much? I get banter and opinions etc - that's fine, but from what I've seen over recent episodes, there is clearly an anti-NUFC agenda at play here and I just wondered what has caused this? The Newcastle fan (to his massive credit) remains polite and calm in the face of what is at times outright disrespect.
The newcastle fan (lewis) has had some horrible takes. "Pope the best gk in the PL" and wilson among the best strikers in the world. Yes, WORLD.
Where’s Tottenham midfield. It’s up there with Newcastles tbf, Hojbjerg, Bentacur, Bissouma, Maddison.
Easily up there
kamara, douglas luiz and tielemans/ ramsey / mcginn is clear than most of these, do you lot only know the 'big 6'?
Kamala and Douglas luiz underrated
maddison bissouma bentancur deserved a mention
Bissouma was wank last year
No it didnt
Curtis Jones walks into Newcastle’s midfield 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Where was the shout for Aston Villa. Douglas Luiz is great. John McGinn is so good under emery and I mean tielemans will do a great job in their system
liverpool is in there, szoboslai, macallister and thiago alcantara
Might be bias but Bissouma, Maddison & Bentancur is up there
Villa's midfield is better
@@cav6717 disagree
@@fifaclips9379 Luiz and Kamara are both massively underrated so I’m not surprised. The depth is there, Tielemans McGinn Ramsey Buendia (injured now but still)
Toms a prat willock last season was better than Curtis jones has ever had
Villas midfield?
This may sound stupid, but I think Liverpool don't make the top 5. I agree with Manchester City 1, Arsenal 2, Manchester United 3 and Newcastle 4, but I think Aston Villa are 5th. If Tielemans performs like we know he can, Kamara/Ramsey, Luiz and Tielemans is better than Szoboszlai, Mac Allister and Jones.
Horrendous take, Lewis esque
united have 10x better midfield than arsenal,casemiro is light years ahead of rice,bruno is light years ahead of odegaard and havertz,and mount is clear of havertz but is worse than odegard,only odegaard makes it into uniteds midfield so how tf does arsenal have a better midfield?
@@mantajssamra3945 How is it?
How do brighton not get a mention when last year they had the second best midfield?
Macalister left
And trossard
@@malakai0321 they signed dahoud as a replacement who is a very good player imo
@@kieranbuttigieg7302u haven’t even watched him 😂😂😂
@@EA-hz9mg I havent watched a whole season of him but I do see the occassional dortmund game and was never obviously bad when playing
Jones would be 8th choice for Newcastle. Bruno G, Joelinton, Willock, Tonali, Anderson, Longstaff and Miley all clear
1. City
2. Arsenal
3. United
4. Newcastle
5. Liverpool ( if they sign a Dm )
"Show the stats" in all comps bruno has more then odegaard in everything 40 g/a>22 g/a, more chances created, more big chances created, more key passes, more through balls, more expected assists, better defending attacking and pressing stats. Theo is so clueless
Newcastle lives rent free in Toms head
Tom is the only one with ball knowledge
did i just hear theo say odegaard had a better season than kdb
Unbiased Luiz kamara and tielemans are better then most midfields
I mean forgot villa as a shout but anyway
Tottenham have to be in there if Liverpool are being considered.
Theo ‘Let’s go off trophies’ for Rice.
But Arsenal players ‘stats stats stats’ yeah nice trophies 👍
Joelinton Newcastle first name on teamsheet
Curtis jones doesn’t even get into Newcastle’s Starting XI LMAOO