Modern-Retro 14.5" Midlength A2 FSB (Centurion Arms, Forward Controls, Primary Arms SLx MicroPrism)
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- čas přidán 23. 06. 2022
- Welcome back to the channel! This video provides a short update to my 14.5" midlength A2 FSB build.
Original 14.5 A2 teaser video:
• Modern Retro Build: 14...
Primary Arms SLx Microprism reviews from others:
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Lower: Centurion Arms CM4
Upper: Bushmaster A2 (80's-90's era-removed from service rifle). Note: Modern ejection port covers will not work.
Handguard: Centurion Arms C4 MLOK (Mid Cut)
Barrel: Centurion Arms 14.5 Midlength (Cold Hammer Forged, Chrome Lined, Mid Weight) with pinned FSB
Gas Tube: Centurion Arms
BCG: Sionics Weapon Systems (phosphate)
Muzzle Device: Surefire CAM4FA556 (discontinued)
Charging Handle: Forward Controls Design ACF
Trigger: Centurion Arms AST 2-Stage
Misc Build Parts: Forward Controls Design
Buffer System: VLTOR REA5, Rifle Spring, A5H2 Buffer
Light: Modlite PLHv2 18650
Tailcap: SureFire UE07
Light Switch: Modlite Modbutton
Light Mount: Arisaka Defense Offset Scout Mount (OSM)
VFG: Samson Manufacturing
Rail Covers: Slate Black Industries Slategrips
Cable Management: Forward Controls Design / Tactical Night Vision Company PCM-L
Stock: B5 Bravo
Grip: Magpul K2
Optic: Primary Arms SLx 1x Microprism Gen2
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Thanks for the shoutout and for using our music! This is fantastic build as always 🔥
Happy to share your talent!
Just received my 3x Microprism a few days ago. It is surprisingly close to an ACOG in glass quality, dare I say on par, and the weight to magnification ratio makes LPVOs really hard to justify now for rifles in non DMR roles. Nice builds, btw.
Modern tech is definitely catching up and doing cool things.
Aesthetically pleasing but also functional. Love it.
Perfect mount option. Nice build.
Am considering the 3X when I cycle back through upgrading but 1X is totally functional.
I’m on this same path right now, but with a 16” midlength a2 and oval hand guards. Your equipment is gorgeous.
It's evolved since this video so stay tuned for future update video.
Man that’s a good looking rifle
That’s a great looking build
Thank you, thank you.
Nice setups.
Hellll yeeaaah now this the kinda content i been wantin to see i love experimental retro shit 💙 subscribed 🤙
Much appreciated. Welcome to the channel!
You have the best looking builds out there
They just pop in my head one day and I start the projects. 😂
This is a concept I've been developing too, kind of like a "sleeper" build, aka modern-retro. Nice!
Sick! Enjoy it, buddy.
that song gets in your bones... nice rifle too!
Definitely like that slx prism you got on your carry handle. Good stuff
It's been swapped to a Steiner P4Xi now. Stay tuned for updates later.
Awesome build
Thanks!
Very nice rifle. Definitely has a vibe
It's been updated since the video. Stay tuned.
Sweet setup
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I like this build better than most I've seen. Interested in the primary arms 3x on this setup, wanna see that review.
I've actually swapped to a Steiner P4Xi when one became for a very good deal, so I'm currently experimenting with that
Awesome build! Been looking for one of those CAM4FA556 for a long time. Have plenty of the brake version just never bought the birdcage one.
Yea, definitely see more examples of the brake variant than the FH. I don't think I've seen another in person.
Defintely inspired me with the slx on carry handle mount
I'm glad it helped. The setup has evolved to take an LPVO since.
Those Shmitt 2-stage triggers are fantastic. I believe Centurion, FCD, Sionics, and BCM all use the OEM Schmitt. I like them better than the Larue mbt2s and about the same as the Geissele g2s. Not as good as the SSA-E, SDC, or KAC 2-stage, but close. Centurion is also my go to for mil spec receivers.
Agreed on your assessment and comparisons. Lots of shops use Schmid. Look for those "S" stamps. 😂
Very interesting and shit hot looking rifle, well done!
Thanks. It's inspired a few folks so far.
I put a the PA SLX 3x Microprism ACSS Raptor green reticle. I installed it on a carry handle 16” barrel. It’s a great low to medium range for that all purpose carbine. It’s a solid optic on a solid build. Magpul sling, moe furniture kit stock, foregrip, vert grip, trigger guard & mag in ghillie camo. Streamlight & Mlok mount w/flip down lens cover A.D. of white light. It’s my take on a K.I.S.S. carbine. You could easily train someone on it and have them plinking C zone size targets all day.
It's a solid option. I've swapped to a Steiner P4Xi since this video though. Stay tuned.
It’s gorgeous ❤ I’m jealous of you my fellow Americans ❤
I liked your 12 a lot but I also like this one. IDK which to try and mimic.
I'd say to do whichever you feel is best for you. It's your setup, not mine. Use what I do for inspiration but it's unnecessary to "clone" it since what I do may not work for you. Plus I experiment a lot, and as you've seen with my builds they tend to change over time. Good luck!
Enjoyed the vid. I’ve got a 14.5” FSB AR (among others) that I’m “tweaking.” Thinking about that Centurion Arms rail.
Nice! Updating as time goes on is always a fun time. This one is a mid but they also have carbine options if you need those.
@@bunnyoperator thanks. Mine is a mid as well. That’s what drew me to ur vids. I have only 1 FSB AR. Have a removable carry handle. Was going retro. But that rail is calling me!! U have a fav carry handle optic? My eyesight SUCKS!!! so although iron sights look cool it’s just not practical. LOL.
@@scott2228 I don't have a favorite currently. I'm still testing options but if you need magnification or have eye issues where LED red dots do the work the Trijicon mini ACOG series or the Primary Arms micro prism series are good.
I like the set up. I’m almost finished with my 14.5 carry handle build. Just waiting on my PA 3x to get here next week and my suppressor should be out of jail any day.
Nice! 3X is what I would've gone with too but I jumped straight to LPVO from here. My IG has updated photos but I'll do an update vid later
@@bunnyoperator I’ve already got the older 3x and then a new gen on another rifle. I’m used to them and sold on them. Plus the new ones are NVG compatible I’ve heard
@@redbarronreviews2429 You can see definitely use it under NV but it's not T2 or RDS level of use. Lining up your tube with a prism is just another ball game over a floating dot.
@@bunnyoperator good to know. Thank you!
Nice video. I do have the PA 3x prism on a carry handle build and I will say the eye relief is... ehhhhh. Mine's actually up super high cause I'm using one or two of the additional risers that come with it to bring it back farther, and even then I still have to have my face way forward. It's really not ideal. I wish there was a single mount that brought it way back farther. You can see in your pic of the ACOG that its rear is past the charging handle (8:18); that's how far you want to have the PA 3x as well, honestly.
I'll have to update this after I can look at mine to say exactly how far mine's back, but it's not enough imo.
I've looked through the 3X and 5X since this video and I would agree on the eye relief. Nature of short prism optics I guess. Weapon Outfitters has a cantilever ACOG mount but I don't think they support the mini pattern (yet?).
I'll wait around for solutions. Currently there's a Steiner P4Xi on this. Still experimenting. 😂
@@bunnyoperator Interesting. Yeah man a cantilever mount for the SLx would be tight
I have the x3 Slx on a flat top upper. Not sure how it would do with the HOB and BDCs. However, I do enjoy it. It's like an ACOG, but ACOG at home. For carry handle mounts I prefer to run a red dot. Just be sure to measure your HOB and look at a ballistics chart for your zeroing. One kind of advantage I find with these sighting systems is that you can have two different zeros between the optic and irons. For my irons on my 14.5 its a 25/350 yard zero, and the red dot is just a massive hold over at the short range, but between 100 and 200 is basically dead on. I guess one advantage of the PA optic is that you have built in ranging. Because guessing if the target is at 300-350 is kind of difficult in the real world.
Nice. I've swapped the microprism out for a Steiner P4Xi already. As with any optic/configuration you'd confirm your holds at distance and HOB won't be an issue. Carry handle height isn't that much taller than the current tall mount offerings on the market, so I am used to it. 🥳
Your interview of Roger and use of FCD has got me in a possible all FCD parts build (except barrel and trigger). Ok it's because I had a LMT lower and could not find the 11.5 " spec war upper for MSRP and I refused to pay double for it as it's the most sought after LMT upper because 12.5" SBR fever has infected seemingly everyone. I'm hoping that I can acquire all of the FCD parts on my build list. Sadly the EPC and BCG are the hardest to acquire. I'm just glad that I can finally put together something good that I feel will be used almost exclusively until I try learning how to shoot with a long gun from a friend's dad that was a green beret and has some crazy nice rifles and glass from pawn shop deals. I guess in Las Vegas people will dump nice things for money if they have a gambling problem.
Do you like 6mm ARC? I have another upper and I'd normally wait, but I am worried that enough weak-minded republicans will ban AR15 and other semi auto rifles within the next two months. I hope I'm wrong, but I feel that I want to do it now just in case. Plus if there are food shortages as many predict then I can imagine people pushing moral limits and start stealing or flat out attack your family at night and rob your food if your house isn't secured. I know sometimes it's best for people to not know that you're a gun guy and fly under the radar, but this is not the time and I want people to know that I own firearms and we will not be easy to rob so move on to easier prey.
Sorry, I thought I had already replied to you. I am honored to have aided you in your decisions. I hope that I can continue to be of use to you as time goes on. I don't have direct experience with 6 ARC but I know that @mr_recee on IG, Revival Defense, and Black River Tactical really believe in the round. They are working on a few things, so pay attention to those fellas.
Baller setup man.
It was a fun experiment. I think I favor the 12.5 over it but that may change with a different optic for both. There are a few Aimpoint Micro mounts already on the market, so I may swap the PRO/ARMS 16 out on the 12.5 and PA 3X on the 14.5. I guess cater them to specialty use.
@@bunnyoperator I think the carry handle is a good concept overall. Definitely something I might try out with some planned builds. I'm also probably going to do something belligerent with my 20". But I definitely dig the vibe of this setup. Well done.
@@navyman8903 Experimentation leads to both stupidity and success. It's all part of the game. LOL
Nice setup bro
Thanks. It has been upgraded since. You can check my IG or wait until the next update video.
@bunnyoperator I liked your video but the music is not my idea of music.
@@keithheinz1724 😂 Totally your perogative to dislike the music choice. Simply helping folks that support me.
help needed. Has anyone put a primary arms slx 3x on a 14.5 inch barrel? what ammo/ zero distance works best the manual has 2 different recommendations for 55 grain at 50 yards and 62 grain at 100 yards. i want to shoot both unsure what to do?
You're going to need to zero for the one you use the most and remember the differences in holds when switching to other ammo. You're never going to be 100% zeroed at all times depending on environment and input conditions.
i just bought their slx 2.5 compact from PA for 160 and was confused on if it came with hardware to mount it to the handle?
It doesn't say in the description, but they sell one separately.
From videos i've watched, I'm gathering it does have the bolt but not an optimal one; Is that correct? Is the head smaller thus harder to tighten down?
I'm not familiar with that model. You'll have to reach out to PA to see what you need to run it.
Excellent 👍👍 I need a x3 for my carry handle
I would recommend the 3X overall.
What's the lowest most high speed fancy rail mount for carry handle optics? Curious to know what options are there, I would like to have it see through for irons too ideally.
There a lot of options ranging in size and material. Look at ARMS, Leupold, or simply search "carry handle rail mount" and see what comes up. If you want direct mount it would be dependent on your optic of choice but there are options.
Centurion is made like 15 mins away from me . Great stuff
They're good people. Monty has plenty of ideas in his brain waiting to be hashed out.
Good vid. You should do a review on the Centurion ARMS CrMOV Enhanced SOCOM Barrel, Midlength gas (14.5 inch).
Probably won't. I don't intend to setup any new rigs any time soon. Their CrMOV is just another option to their CHF line that I have on pretty much everything. I am sure they perform just as well as the CHF variants.
The 3x would be awesome! Either way cool carrying handle gun sir!
If I would've started off at 3 then I probably would've left it alone but there's a Steiner P4Xi on it now. Stay tuned for that update later.
@@bunnyoperator Ahh fair enough should definitely be interesting 👍
@@SamuelA3 You can find general updates on my IG or FB. YT is a bit more involved in content creation, so longer format vids take more time. I guess the IG/FB posts are more behind the scenes and other educational posts that lead up to the videos. 😂
Wanted to start out by saying I just found you and love you builds and content, I am currently going through your podcasts on Spotify while sitting through my long hours operating a loader. I wanted to ask you though, I am in the middle of a 13.7 build and have a centurion arms mid cut rail on the way because I really love the aesthetic of a FSP. But the trouble I have now is I can’t find a front sight block anywhere, centurion arms doesn’t seem to have any on their website and I see BCM sells one but says it needs drilled and I’m not that smart. Any advice on where I can pick one up or do I need to buy a new barrel somewhere that has one already installed?
Thanks for the feedback and I'm glad that you've found the podcasts. I figured there are folks who'd prefer listening to conversations that couldn't watch in video format. They'll keep releasing daily until caught up with the series and then new ones will release as they are completed.
I recommend that you reach out to Trajectory Arms or Dave Wilson to see if they have any FSBs in stock then send your barrel out for them to properly align, drill, and pin.
The alternative is that you acquire a barrel already pinned and use this one for something else but that's your call.
Keep me posted, buddy. Reach out through FB, IG, or here.
@@bunnyoperator yeah after looking it up it seems what I’m looking for doesn’t exist, my knowledge of gas block starts and ends with low profile blocks on a aero precision 300 blackout pistol I build myself so I assumed front sight blocks attached the same way but I made a ass out of me. Thank you for the such quick response and recommendations, probably send you a view when it’s done in a month or so, I only could find your backup insta, is the main account banished to a shadow realm?
@@tylerkeller7776 oh, for sure I'm shadow banned. My IG is @bunny_operator but here's my Linktree also linktr.ee/bunny_operator
Centurion Arms recommended Trajectory Arms to me originally, and that's who I used for my barrel work, so they are my recommendation.
There are clamp on type FSBs but I really don't recommend them. FSBs should really be rock solid when installed and the drill & pin method is the way to go.
I know I'm a little late but I'm curious if you can use a bayonet with that Handguard??
There is a provision for the mount but 14.5 mid isn't the appropriate length for it. 16 mid and 14.5 car would potentially work.
Need to know what the carry handle optic mount is .
Comes with the optic. Details are in the video
Not gonna lie bunny, we have the same exact taste in AR builds except I prefer serrated over dimpled FCD parts lol I’ve taken a Wyndham, Maine bushmaster and swapped the 20” barrel for a true 16” dissipator barrel (rifle length gas). I threw an aimpoint 3000 on the carry handle and ran it in a carbine class a couple weeks ago. It ran great and got a lot of attention. I noticed that a lot of the guys had high optic mounts including the instructors. It’s funny how we are starting to see a resurgence in the “heads up” shooting style coming back. Makes me think that the guys in the late 80’s/early 90’s really had that style down. I don’t plan on going back to flat tops unless it’s a DMR. not to mention the carry handle gives me a chub. I think this build is a perfect mesh of old and new school. Looking forward to more brother!
I agree, and feel the same. Unless primary magnified optic, I don't intend to run lower than the approx 4-4.5" HOB for optics. It's so much more comfortable especially when adding things like helmets or masks/shields.
Sounds like you have a solid setup. I do plan on trying out the Aimpoint micro series once KE Arms releases their mount or I'll just order the Roush Manufacturing one if I get impatient. I'm thinking that paired with swapping for the quad might make it ideal. That little bit of extra beef just feels a bit better. I do talk about it in the A1 update video.
PS I do run serrated on my 11.5 car and 12.5 mid setups. LOL
@@bunnyoperator carry handle + quad rail = tucked up in your waistband before recess type chub in the 6th grade. I’ve been waiting for the mid length c4 cutout quad for some time but can never catch it in stock. I do however have the c4 carbine cutout rail so I’ll most likely build a modernized 12.5” Gordon carbine clone from black hawk down with an aimpoint pro. I wish and hope centurion gets into the carry handle upper game because id be all over it!
@@hoonyur5973 Mid quad might be heavier than my preference. This 14.5 is already over 9lbs loaded in current config. I think I can get away with the Car quad on the 12.5. Need to source one eventually.
Bushmaster 16" Dissipator barrels had CLGS with rifle-length FSB, low profile gas block under the handguards. Is that what you got?
@@LRRPFco52 I take it you're asking @hoonyur5 yea?
That seems like it has one heck of a chin weld! But it sure looks good 👍
Try it to see if it works for you. This setup has been in use for a long long time. I've found that as long as the optic eyebox and eye relief is good then you'll be fine.
@Florida Man HVACR good viable option
@Florida Man HVACR A solid option if you want it.
Hey man can you see your iron sights perfectly with this optic on it? Like can you go back and forth from magnification to irons no problem? I have a similar setup and wana get the 3 or 5x for the too
Yup, I noted in the video that the optic mount has passthrough ability. It is the default mount that comes with the optic but you can also seek out steel mini-ACOG mounts.
Thanks man I must have missed that part awesome I think I’m gonna get the 3x 💪
@@andreg36k All good. Enjoy it. I would've started with the 3X if I did it again.
Have you had a chance to try the 3x? Interested in hearing about the eye relief and useability on a carry handle
3X is the preferred for this platform for lightweight general use. The 1X left me wanting just a bit more out of the set-up and the BDC was all but useless at 1X. That being said, I've since swapped to a carry handle mounted LPVO to experiment with. If I find that to be overkill then I may swap to the 3X.
@@bunnyoperator which lpvo are you using?
@@JediSwordMasters Steiner P4Xi currently on it
Been looking at that 3× & 5× from PA
Nice. I'd probably stick to the 3X for more general usability but give the 5X a go.
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Are you able to zero the optic with it being that high over bore?
It's approx 4.5" HOB and there is plenty of adjustment in the topic turrets. It's not a problem and I don't think it's an issue for any optic. Some setups are even higher than this.
just bought a carry handle upper from psa, i have a sbr anderson lower, i wanna make badass modern sbr build, dont really know what to get for barrel and handguard, definitely want a vertical grip and a dot on the handle
Use this and other folks' setups as examples.
@@bunnyoperator ended up getting a centurion 14.5 socom mil spec with FSB. and the midwest industries 2 piece hand guard that is similar to the centurions. your video has helped alot, you can still run your irons with the primary arms micro prizm right?
@@christopherpeterraby Nice! Yes, the optic mount has passthrough ability. There should be a photo of it in the video.
Where are you finding these carry handles
I've had the A1 uppers but the A2 specifically was through GB. I noted it in the video.
Can you mount that micro 3x any lower ?
Nope. Nature of the beast
What has your experience been using this optic under night vision? Are you able to shoot it reasonably well under NODs despite the horseshoe?
Prisms aren't optics you wanna use under NV. Adjusting the diopter to match NV while having enough relief is all kinds of goofing. IF I ran this setup under NV, the optic wouldn't be used at all.
@@bunnyoperator that makes sense. I have one on the gun I plan to use as my main night vision gun, a Sig MPX. But I also have a DBAL D2. So I don't need to rely on passive aiming.
Just goofing around in my room, I was able to see the horseshoe just fine through my WP Elbit PVS 14, but I couldn't really see the dot in the middle. So essentially it's like a 40 MOA dot, lol. Did not seem super practical to me for passive aiming but I'm no expert so I appreciate that you took the time to share your experience!
@@MaxvonHippel Learn from my mistakes. LOL
Try a flatwire tubbs spring, straight up the best spring for any rifle.
Perhaps if I start experiencing issues or as springs need replacement. I'm aware of Tubbs but the Sprincos and VLTOR springs were available to me at the time, so I went with those.
@@bunnyoperator gotcha, if you ever feel like trying them it’s completely worth it, Tubbs has videos explaining his springs in detail if you’d like to know the details.
Cool rifle btw.
@@JohnBrowningsGhost Yup, I recall. Flatwire was the jam in the mid 2000 era for sure. I will likely order when another experiment calls for it. Right now is evaluating A5 standard spring across various configs.
Can you still ise irons with it on
Yes. Examples photos in video.
Is that red dot mount universal or only with primary optics?
That mount comes with the PA optic but it sucks. The pattern is mini ACOG but it's not universal. Best thing to do is pick your optic and see what mounts are available. If you let me know I can give you options. You can check my 12.5 A1 video for the 30mm direct mount or my IG for examples of others.
@@bunnyoperator ok thanks man I appreciate that I bought a ceylee awhile ago and a sig Romeo 5 but I have stigmatism so I have to go with a green dot or something like the pa slx also I'm a fan of the carry handle and I don't want to remove it but I still want to be able to use my iron sights but thanks again I'll keep in touch
@@bunnyoperator and not to mention that slx looks dope lol
Where can one find these a1 uppers? I can't find them anywhere in stock
This one is an A2 but some shops still have newer production A1 lying around. You'll have to check auction sites and local shops. Brownell's uppers were made by Nodak Spud but they don't seem to be making any right now.
@@bunnyoperator cool thx for clarifying that I thought a2 was detachable style carry handle I will keep looking for one your builds are sick btw I'm glad there's more like me out there digging the retro modern mix builds
@@yeshua1176 A3 and A4 were the flat-top uppers with ability for detachable but it really doesn't matter.
PSA allegedly bough NDS, so it's likely that they'll start producing at some point.
Good luck finding one and/or not ridiculously priced. I sure as hell am glad i stocked up on A1 and A2’s.
@@noneyafuckingbuisness2456 Definitely not a good time to look for those for sure.
love the build bro. Good to know the Primary Arms prisms will mount right into the carry handle, they don't advertise this ability on their website. Might not be the first to say this, but is that bcg a bit overlubed? I am sure it functions fine, but my concern would be, if you ever had to actually take that out and carry it in a dire situation, all that grease/lube would be a serious dirt trap. Just my two cents. Love the build tho.
Not at all. I've tested varying levels of lube in different conditions, and I've found that "excess" lube helps keep the system running after high round counts. If you're running a can lube can burn up quickly, so the thicker stuff stays where it needs to and moves to the areas that are needed once it warms up. I've done this even in very fine sand and the rifles keep going. The thinner oils tended to create more stops after the oil either burns off or moves away from critical areas but once you spray lube back in it'll keep running. It takes a lot of gunk for the action to not run as it should, so much of the cautionary advisement you read regarding "over lubing" isn't backed by evidence but fuddlore.
You can also watch the Larry Vickers video where they pretty much dunked an AR into oil as an anecdote. Do also test it for yourself to find that peace of mind.
@@bunnyoperator I saw the one where Vickers did it in response to James Yeager's video about Glocks. It was kind of silly tho, bc Yeager (not that I am a huge fan of his) never said that an abundance of lube will keep a gun from functioning. He stated that, according to Glock's own people, the most common "malfunction" they saw in their guns was situations where far more lube than necessary was used, and then possibly not cleaned again in a while or used in very dirty environments, and the excessive lube turned into a magnet for crap and gummed it up. Supposedly according to Glocks own service people. Vicker's video really didn't do anything to address that or dispel it as an issue, he just proved the gun would run when saturated in perfectly clean oil. Not sure that was a surprise to anyone. Is it REALLY an issue in real world situations? Don't know. Guess we should probably ask military guys who actually carried and used guns in shitty environments to know. Either way, I've just NEVER seen a bcg with that much grease on it, then again I don't really run with the 10k-rounds-thru-a-can-every-3-months crowd either. Carry on, bro.
@@michaelcreekmore9534 Nature of anecdotes for sure. Conditions will alter what is done for use case. Best thing to do is run whatever camp you're in to verify for yourself. If it works keep going until it doesn't. Only way to know. Keep collecting that data, brother. 🤝
What mount are you using for the SLX on the carry handle??
It comes with the mount you need. It's basically mini ACOG pattern.
@@bunnyoperator thank you! I commented before I watched the video 😂🤦♂️
@@KidDynamite2016 it happens. 😂
@@bunnyoperator so have you swapped it out for the 3x and is it easy to use the iron sights?
@@KidDynamite2016 I only use mounts with pass-through for irons on these. Transition is easy.
I went with a different optic option. Stay tuned for update video or go to my IG/FB for the day-to-day
How reliable has the A5 buffer system been?
Depends on your front end and A5 weight you choose. I can't give you a blanket answer but it's also not something odd like a hydraulic buffer system, so the "reliability" question is confusing. Maybe if you give me a specific scenario I can address it. Out of this specific setup it's been fine.
@bunnyoperator I just ordered a 16-inch midweight/midlength upper from centurian. I'm trying to figure out if I should put the Vltor A5 or standard carbine buffer system on it. Has the Vltor A5H2 been reliable with cycling different types of ammo since it's on your midlength barrel? I've always wondered how the Vltor buffer system does on midlength gas systems that aren't overgassed from the factory
@@trippskits2503 The A5 system really isn't necessary but it is a general upgrade. You're going to be completely fine running a carbine H1 or H2 with standard or Sprinco white, white hot, or blue spring. The A5 really tends to shine during FA or suppressed use but there are still benefits for semiauto use. It's just not a necessary upgrade per-say. If you want to try it then try it. 16 mid from Centurion will probably be compatible with most buffer configs.
I would recommend A5H2 for canned/uncanned use. You can try A5H1 for dedicated unsuppressed.
How was the 3x on this build??
I went with a 1-4 LPVO instead
How do i mount it
I talk about it in the video.
I'm building an Car15 inspired. AR with A1 upper 14.5 Pinned and welded barrel with fsp two-position car15 buffer tube. And stock with a quad rail
Nice
@@bunnyoperator I already have $498 into it when it’s done I’ll have $980
@@J-Bones87 good deal, buddy.
@@bunnyoperator And My father was in the Army so I'm setting it up practical. For Shtf I'm going with the blue light because blue is the closest resemblance of the moons light. l live in a wooded area and blue light is hard to spot in the trees. White light you would stick out
@@J-Bones87 Sounds like a solid plan. Red light also works well.
I dont like the Fixed carry handle with a modern handgaurd it fucks with something in my brain
Like using a carry handle on a flat top AR then putting an optic on that handle
Optic on detachable is just wrong to me. It works but it voids the purpose of a flat top. 😂
You can find examples of modern handguards on fixed A1/A2 out in the wild being used in theater. Mainly quads. It's not uncommon.
What’s your cleaning regiment?
I don't... Probably whenever I feel like it or when it starts to get more sluggish that extra lube would resolve.
@@bunnyoperator I see
I want to do a build similar to this
Base model straight CAR-15 clone
But with rail attachments to mount a scout light and a laser box
Think out Railess P226s have clip on rails accessories out there
There are several 1913 accessories you can mount to the classic handguard. It's a matter of if you can find them
@bunnyoperator saw a few there's one that mounts directly to the A2 FSP
@@Senator-Wary Yes, a few options are available for that. Elzetta and Arisaka makes some.
Is it a car-15 clone or m4 clone ?
Neither. Its own thing.
What’s the update??
Great video.
Different config. Furniture change, paint, optic swapped for a Steiner P4Xi, etc...
@@bunnyoperator is there a review for the stiener optic on your page??
just found you. For the rep.
@@pigpaul No, not yet. Still evaluating and gathering data. Will update as time allows. Stay tuned.
That being said, the P4Xi is phenomenal if you get it for about 500 and under. I wouldn't pay more than that.
Thanks you my friend! Deleted my last comment because I had no idea my name was visible to all 🤦♂️
All good buddy. As long as you got what you needed.
Dude, you gotta drop the stock and VFG, pin and weld, or get a tax stamp. ATF was at our local range checking for tax stamps. You're going to catch a felony for something stupid.
None of that is accurate. You're assuming a lot about details of a configuration you're not privvy to.
ATF at a range?
@@tghobbies2038 It's fear-mongering. Consider it internet fuddery.
Nice build but holy shit your BCG looks disgusting lol if you dont like to clean it try a nickel boron bcg much easier to keep clean
You should probably research nickel boron failures. It's a pretty lame finish for BCG efficiency. Chrome or NP3 are better options if you want that impregnated lubricity. I'm fine with phosphate, chrome lined combos for my needs.
This fool said nickel boron 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@bunnyoperator I have a 7.62x39 build and a 5.56 both with nickel boron bcgs probably around 5k rounds between the 2 have always ran flawlessly and super easy to clean compared to my old grimey Phosphate bcgs that have had a few hiccups. I'll look into those other finishes never touched em
@@edtronel2955 I'm glad yours are working but it's not a matter of the parts not functioning necessarily. It's for you to understand the flaws of nickel boron, and really the flaws of many of the surface finishes out there.
Yeah, no.
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I can accept everything about it, but THIS PISTOL GRIP IS THE WORST.
The K grip is fine but it's not my personal preference. The setup has changed quite a bit since this video. The grip was swapped a TangoDown BG18, which is my fave.
Just because it has a carry handle doesn't make it retro.
"Modern-Retro" is in the title. 😂
Nice set up. It’s getting hard to find A1/A2 uppers .
True but they're a lowly coming back. I have a few extra.
What make was your left side magazine release 👍❤️🤍💙
Forward Controls Design. This is the standard model and there is an extended for lefties that need it.
Beautiful rifles, luv the vibe