Android Race From WEAKEST To STRONGEST
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Damn that ending prediction for cell max is spot on
Literally!
I mean, it was explained why he is like that (and honestly, Geddo himself is the villain of this flick).
"hopefully he isn’t a brainless meathead tat appears in the last 15 min of the movie". Well guess what
😂😂😂😂
Yeeep, sure is lol
aged well
Cell technically could have trained and kept getting stronger and stronger, having the saiyan cells and friezas cells his power could have had really no limits. We see how far goku and vegeta have gone , and look a frieza now. Cell had all of thier dna. Which tells me he had the most potential out of all characters in dbz
And he had Namekian regeneration thanks to Piccolo's cells. He could get those Saiyan powerups in a fraction of the time.
@@xdragonlance and combine them with frieza's
Cell had Cell jrs as well, they could’ve been unstoppable 😅
21 even more so.
@@MatthewJamesKalasky nah cell's got way more potential, 21 is just powerful
Technically Super 17 is the strongest Android in entire Dragon Ball multiverse, because of his mechanism he has limitless absorbing ability that allows him to absorb energy AND kinetic force from punches (which means that punching him makes him stronger and doesn't actually do any damage), his only flaw is he cannot absorb both at the same time and that doomed him, but otherwise he's the most dangerous and strongest Android ever, because he's absorbing ability is supposed to be limitless
android 21 destroys super 17
@@lilmoesieable because you say so or because you actually have any kind of REAL argument?
@@CainDB she regenerate, why do you think when fat buu was al trainend and stuff he didnt compete in the top?
@@lilmoesieable you do realize that Super 17 in theory doesn't need to regenerate because he doesn't take any damage because of his absorbing ability?
@@CainDB first of all he was the strongest android in gt after dragon ball kai, android 21 has the powers of goku and everyone also majin buu and cell afrer cell absorb so i dont think super 17 is able to compete with 21 hes strong but not as 21
The reason I suspect android 18 got stronger is that the limitless energy stamina thing just over time works like a passive EXP bonus. She does not have to train, but will constantly have passive growth. Her brother 17 on the other hand took the time to learn to master his powers and energy so he had actual growth. I think that is what Gero feared from them. That they over time would just keep getting stronger even if they did nothing.
they werent robots just upgraded humans if they were robots 18 wouldnt have a child
It always perplexed me if Dr. Gero was going to turn himself into an android anyway, why he didn’t just make himself an infinite energy model like 17 & 18 instead of an absorption model. He could’ve built himself to be the strongest of them all, but instead gave all that power to the two that ultimately ended up killing him. I suppose he’s more a scientist than a fighter, but him being one of the most brilliant minds on earth, you’d think he would’ve thought of that.
I always assumed he turned himself into an android before he had the advanced technology that he used with 17 and 18
I thought it was because he saw how much stronger Goku got each time he showed up. He was worried the perpetual energy models might eventually get outclassed, whereas he could always absorb however much the Z fighters got.
Probably because Toriyama was pressured into making new android characters that were better than a "fat clown and old man." Then 17 and 18 had to be brushed aside because "they weren't scary enough."
I think Gero grew more powerful the more energy he absorbed so maybe he wanted to grow more powerful without needing to train? Idk lmao.
@@kyleellis1825 True. Even though it wasn’t a thing at the time, now we see that 17 actually got a lot stronger in Super just by some light training which is still stupid that he’s on SS Blue level. So their power isn’t set, they actually can grow stronger. BUT that wasn’t actually a concept in the original DBZ.
So we all gunna forget that Arale can body this entire list?
Underrated comment
@@kylethomas9130 it's crazy how we have God's of destruction, angels, Supreme Kai level threats and yet Arale is just skipping around somewhere happy like a true menace to society. Thank God she was good natured, otherwise there wouldn't even be a Dragon Ball series period.
@@devinudairam561 i remember as a kid using arale in Tenkaichi 3, she was a fucking menace.
@@rsync9490 I'm telling you. This new gen knows nothing about General Tao, Arale, the original Garlic, or Commander Red from the old days. The other day my cousin asked me who Turles was and why he looks like Goku 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@devinudairam561 Dragon Ball Z fan tries to recognize upa challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) (GONE WRONG)
Imperfect Cell: “It’s too dark in here. I can’t seen anything… Wait, now I see a light.”
16: “Walk towards it!”
WHAT THE HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEL!!!!!!!
He's part moth
forget about killing son goku
With the Cell Jr thing, I believe it was stated that each Cell Jr had an equal power level to Cell at that time, however they are less durable than Cell which is probably how ssj2 Gohan managed to rip off various body parts.
Wouldnt their durability be higher because they use the same amount of power to protect a smaller surface area?
Nah each cell jr was stated to be as strong as vegeta and trunks by cell himself
@@kingades1013 Oh they were? I only heard the part I commented about from the dub version of the anime, so who knows, could be a translation error or purposely changed by Toriama.
@@mralexander4209 No Cell’s power was equally divided among the Cell Jr’s
@@mralexander4209 Yh could possibly be. I think cell says it in the manga too. Apparently the cell jrs also bully the z fighters a lot more and it isn’t as fair as it was in the anime
Glad you're back! Been watching for a few years now and can't wait to see what you've got cooking!
That was rad. Thanks for covering the androids. I'll subscribe.
Android 13 doesn't have a goddamn baseball cap. It's a trucker hat
gero was going through a phase
It's been far too long, I miss these types of videos❤️
Boi, I miss videos in general
Same
You could just say that the return of cooler took place during the 3 year time skip for androids.so that way it would make sense for goku and vegeta to be stronger since it would be before piccolo fused kami.
But Dende was the guardian of Earth, which could only be the case after Piccolo fused with Kami
@@dtuck333 toei put dende there only because to foreshadow him being guardian of earth in the anime and manga.that could be disregarded especially since in this movie goku hasn’t mastered super saiyan and gohan isn’t teen gohan from the cell games.also future trunks wasn’t there which he would be if it happened in the 10 day gap.
@@extremelegendsupreme4596 but by that logic, then Goku should've been super surprised that Vegeta turned Super Saiyan & yet Goku didn't acknowledge it at all, thus why it has to take place between Piccolo fusing with Kami & before they entered the Hyperbolic Time Chamber
@@dtuck333 actually during the Android saga goku never saw vegeta as a super saiyan.during the Android saga when vegeta saved goku from 19 goku was already unconscious from the heart virus and his fight with 19.Then when goku wakes up he already wants to go to the next level of super saiyan and goku even says that vegeta was gonna do it.that implies that goku was already aware of vegeta going super saiyan.Also in return of cooler goku was the ONLY one who saw vegeta as a super saiyan.Gohan,piccolo,krillin ETC we’re never around vegeta so it makes sense why there surprised.
@@extremelegendsupreme4596 to which Goku knew Vegeta turned Super Saiyan because he could see everything that was going on when he was unconscious from the heart virus. It was shown in the canon manga that Goku has telepathic powers & it implied that he knew everything that went on when he was unconscious. It doesn't line up perfectly with either time, but much more lines up with between Kami & Piccolo fusing & the Hyperbolic Time Chamber training
Android 21 is now canon thanks to the Super Hero movie.
Super Hero itself is not canon but it’s something.
@@Anomaly_x3 it is
Trunks:The technician term is cyborgs
Goku: Androids!!
Not even cyborgs
Lets go the legend is back! ❤️
It’s been a while man glad your back
I enjoyed the video, and clicked the like button simply because you asked nicely at the end. That technique does work for some of us!
Can't wait for your video next year
Always enjoy watching dragon ball when the red ribbon army was in it. They weren't my favourite villains but they had something about them that really stood out. Obviously Toriyama felt the same. I hope this isn't the last time we see them android 16.super 17 and even android 13 would fit In the new series
17 secret training was... Battling cell juniors?
@@TheCriiss180no, they were all destroyed. He did the same thing Frieza did....he thought REALLY hard about it. Hey, if the U6 Saiyans are a thing, so is this.......tingly backs ffs...STILL PISSED.
@leviathan3187 nah the Cell Juniors are still alive at the place 17 was at (forgot the name)
Super Android 13 had phenomenal animation.Better fight scenes than anything in DBS.
Missed you, so glad to see you back!
Cool list. I’ve never seen this topic explored
I think S13 is stronger then both 16 and 17/18 during the Android saga. He wasn’t phased by anything other then a hacked spirit bomb that we never see again.
I agree, he is very very low. He was stupidly powerful
17 also tamed the Cell Jrs and keeps them on his island. Possibly another way he got stronger was sparing with them
Gohan destroyed all the cell jr’s that’s why I hate dbs. I doubt cell was shitting out cell jr’s when he was waiting for the day of the tournament. Dbs anime is just dogshit. Imo I feel like Akira toriyama has nothing to do with the anime there is no proof imo while with the manga they show his correction with the art. Which imo the dbs manga is more canon then the god awful anime where goku needed Ui to beat kefla which is a combination of 2 weak low level saiyans.
@@toybirdy get your point but relax 😂😂😂these are fictional characters who fly and shoot energy balls. never get worked over things that is not based in reality
@@toybirdy Kefla is literally a fusion of a ssj2 and a controlled berserk which is probably above ssj3 level. When you consider that ssj Vegito was already like 10 times stronger than ssj3 goku it very much makes sense. I hate the manga version where ultimate Gohan is equal to her, like fusion is pretty much the most powerful thing in the series and Gohan who trained for 5min after not training for years was as strong as her. Also UI still bodied Kefla, it's not like it was close.
@@toybirdy Well… Kale by herself was giving SSB Goku fits. I wouldn’t say they were weak. The Manga is the place where the Cell Jrs exist, I don’t think they made an anime appearance. Them being alive sorta makes sense, they do regenerate at the cellular level and Gohan mostly just karate chopped them so hard they exploded. Hate it or not, DBS is the canon series following DBZ (technically following the end of Kid Buu arc and right before the introduction of Uub). Some of DBS is cool. Like I like Hit a lot. And the Moro arc in the manga was great. Lots of potential. But I get what your saying.
@@toybirdy DBS makes sense just fine, you just can't understand it is all, like Kelfa being two weak saiyans is just a stupid statement and alone shows zero understanding.
I'm glad U drop a video
Oh yes a new video, cant wait for a new one next year 🤞
I always loved android 8 and android 16s dynamic with their respective sayians. 8 tought goku to show mercy and hold your punch while 16 taught Gohan to stop holding back
LETS GO HES BACK!
13:14 "I was waiting to see how 'things played out.' "
"Was, was that sarcasm?"
"I am not programmed for sarcasm."
"I'm proud of you."
I enjoyed the discussion about the wonky timelines and how the movies shared spoilers. I saw everything way out of order. Thanks for that trivia!
In the manga, Major Metallitron/Sergeant Metallic don't have veins like we saw here, it's filler and adaptation to make the episode longer. And for android 8 i always imagined he was some sort of human dead body brought back to life like frankenstein creature (as he is resurected in buu saga.) i think except anime filler a good indication of mechanical or organic based android (cyborg in fact) are veins. I take exemple on #13 who can has veins and can increase is muscle mass so is organic like #17 and #18 unlike #14 #15 #16 and #19 who are fully androids/artifificials. Gero/#20 is different because beside his brain his body is fully mechanical, he is paradoxally the most cybernetised of all.
ok i see what your saying abought android 8 i though the same thing , Also android 17 and 18 age much slower then a normal human , apart from their cybernetic enhancements their human biology was modify to age much slower and they heal from wounds and damage faster than a normal human. like when cell was beating up 17 really bad. he kept getting back up.
Where’s Mira who literally became so powerful his self destruction would’ve ended all of existence
Only "canon source" or toriyama aproved like the movie that he made the design of
@Lucien Haulotte Mira was in DragonBall online I believe Toriyama did character designs and story for that game
That game also had Androud 9 and Cell X in it
Still got the best intro glad ur back
Great video and glad to see you back.
It's important to note that most of the old movies were created as promotions for the show at conventions and anime expos. That's why a lot of the movies mirror the show in villian design and major events. They were meant to get people interested and excited for the manga/anime in an era without internet.
Most movies also came out in much different time periods than people think. Like 1st cooler movie was released while Goku was fighting Frieza on namek in the anime(So Frieza wasn't even defeated yet but they released a movie that said Goku defeated Frieza and returned back to earth) and even in the manga hasn't returned from Yardrat yet(So they didn't even know about Trunks and King Cold). ON TOP OF THAT Takao Koyama said movie begun production 6 month before release so by that point they had no idea about things like buff 100% Frieza because by that point it wasn't a thing even in the manga.
Most people don't know any of this and say so many outlandish things about the movie because of that.
21 is also in kakarot btw, it shook me to my core because she’s bulmas dads research assistant
Let’s go the return
Great work with this one too.
Arale is the ultimate android in the Dragon Ball universe..
Originally from dr slump
TRUE
my boi back
For now
And he gone for a year
@@sonofsparta3858 🤣
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I firsr subbed to you in late 2016 or early 2017, at least watched most of your videos 2 times and maybe a 3rd time soon
Cell Max is the strongest by a landslide. OG Cell has the most potential.
If Cell had bothered to actually train, then just think about whose DNA he has. Frieza, Goku, Vegeta. Even ignoring Goku and Vegeta, Frieza gained godlike powers in 4 months of training, and then could stomp UI Goku and UE Vegeta after training more. And Cell can use all of their powers and potential together. Just imagine how strong he could become if Cell were ever revived in Super. Scary thought
We need some sort of GT bs where Cell and Cell Max fuse
All Cells are mid, that's facts. Seventeen clears.
@@ligeiasiren4290 most cap statement ever made. And 17 isn’t that strong
she now canon 21
good job for using tfs footage, appreciated
I can't ever see that little purple android without thinking of him as a wino thanks to tfs.
He is back!
Fun fact: if Super Saiyan had been a concept during the original Dragon Ball, Eighter's Death would've been a catalyst for a Super Saiyan Transformation
That or when krillin died and goku went on a rampage against the R.R. army
well, now it's been confirmed that the gammas are the strongest androids after cellmax
Its why I'm hoping we get a cannon 21 that is more mixed in (my idea was a xenobiologist who thought Gero had left the RR but was caught up in the infinite android project (maybe an early attempt that escaped thanks to a lack of mind scrubbing like 17 and 18) who proceeds to just continue her research while upgrading her body with Piccalo's many lost limbs and possibly having convinced Satan to allow her to do a little research into Majin physiology likely ending with her having to split from her evil half using spirit diffusion but leaving her intact this time to act as a mother figure to Gamma and possibly even 17 and 18)
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Finally the goat is back
The real question is how powerful would super 17 be if he fused/absorbed all of the other androids. (Maybe including Mira, Fu, and angel Moro73)
He fought Goku in SSJ3 in the manga rather than Blue so that at least makes a bit more sense, though I wish they used a better excuse for his massive power boost rather than just saying he fought random crooks.
That's just how super is. Bad writing everywhere. Not a single thing in super makes sense.
Apparently he trained with reformed Cell Jrs that Gohan didn't kill in the manga. Cell is pretty strong so realisticly, he could have trained with them until he could take on all 6 at once
The manga isn’t canon.
@@arrownoir There's anime canon and there's manga canon. The manga is directly overseen by Akira Toriyama so one could argue it's "more" canon.
@@Alphine172And the anime is more mainstream and more watched and still overseen by Toyama so you could argue that makes it more cannon
i swear you have the greatest intro i’ve ever seen
Finally your back
I mean, wouldn't this list just be earliest to latest?
Obviously the ones earlier on in the franchise when the power scaling was minimal wouldn't hold a candle to the ones that can battle beings that can break reality like the ones they release today.
You didn't mention Taopaipai. I always suspected he'd been turned into a cyborg by Dr.Gero.
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No way that OG 73 is behind 18! OG 73's powers were enough for Moro to beat Perfect Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta and Ultra Instinct Omen Goku at the same time!! 18 couldn't even hang with the likes of Toppo (pre-GoD form).
Remember. Cooler remembers Goku, so it’s safe to say that the Cooler movie follows the same timeline as the sequel.
Finally, new video!!!
I love these in-depth videos about dragon Ball z I grew up as a kid watching the Funimation lol
I was bothered by a lot of characters who we never really saw train suddenly be keeping up in the ToP.
How did master roshi reach that level? Don't get me wrong...I love the clip of him with his Kamehameha.
Where you also bothered when Vegeta, the king of off-screen power ups, got all his magical upgrades too? because he is the one character that *consistently* got asspull powerups every season, and y'all ate that up everytime.
If Vegeta can get wrecked by Zarbon, and then be miles above Frieza THE NEXT SEASON (by the power of full off-screen training), then you should be ok with Roshi learning U.I. in the manga, lol.
@@ligeiasiren4290 Vegeta was never stronger then Frieza the fuck are you talking about.. what ass pull Power up did Vegeta get?? Name me a episode where Vegeta was actually on par with Frieza?? There isn't one... He also struggled with the Ginyu Force he needed Gohan and Krillins help too take them on... You made all that shit up smh..
@@ligeiasiren4290i don't think you understand dbz. Noone trains harder than Vegeta. Roshi never really trained. He didn't even bother fighting after meeting Raditz. He didn't even train. Vegeta trained non stop to beat goku
he wasnt anywhere near as strong as them. Did you not watch the show? His whole thing was that he was there to deal with the fighters who couldnt be beaten with raw power. He gets fucked up by people around ss2 level.
UI Roshi makes sense
Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks were taking on 13(regular),14, and 15 in their base forms for a while, yet they used super saiyan against 19 right away. This couldn't have been after the time chamber either because Gohan wasn't a super saiyan yet.
Welcome back
Android 13: *Howdy there, I'm android 13, look at my trucker hat*
“Hopefully he isn’t a brainless meathead that appears in the last 15mins of the movie.” Yikes, sorry to say, but you obviously know by now, that you nailed it, smh.
Android 21 is in 3 games and is shown in base form on the screen in dbs super hero
Omg you're alive!!
nice video bo
To me, cell is perfect, it has the highest potential
My only logical reasoning as to why 17 could scale to SSB Goku is that he found a way to harness his unlimited energy supply and compress it into a more potent output, similar to how SSB Goku refines his chi control. That's my head canon anyway.
seeing how good he is at using engery I would agree. Also 10 years people. Do we really need to see him do push ups
Which proves GT’s verse is superior to Super’s as an Android living on a farm is somehow SSJBlue level (without God Ki as well) so yeah
@@PikachuGamerSMTbros acting like super 17 is a good written character💀
There are no explanations man, it's probably not a decision of Toriyama to write 17 like that, it's just super BS , you gotta scale side characters if you want to make them relevant for the new audience
current 17 is just behind ssb, not really as strong as ssb
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@moodzi1322 oh damn u actually said something respect. Yeah I was watching a video on Chuck earlier about movie villans and when u mentioned about how the movie villains are stronger with every next one but there's many points where it shows how that not true . But great video video . Def gonna look at the newer ones
22:20
Wow that aged poorly
What do you think of cyborg Tao? Did magenta and gero make him?
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Thank you so much. I’m a viewer like everyone else on CZcams, and I hate when videos start with the creator begging for likes. This is why I never accepted promoting paid advertisements on my videos. I respect my viewers time, because I know they can be literally doing anything else.
Cell Max is the strongest one now literally was almost unbeatable but he was released early bc of plot armour Gohan had
No he's not because he's not perfect
He was mid at best. Pan could've take him out with ease.
Then Cell Max is the one who has plot armor
@@ligeiasiren4290ok
There's no way 73 is weaker than 17 and 18. 73 swapped hands with gohan who was equal to Kefla prior and then trained to prep for morro afterward. Even kale dominated blue level fighters like golden frieza so Kefla would be far beyond blue level, enough so that jiren and goku had to stop their fight because they saw Kefla as a threat. Manga 17 does not compare to gohan in any way. Ssj3 goku was enough to handle 17 prior to the tournament. Manga gohan is even stated to be the strongest fighter on the planet since goku and vegeta are gone.
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If I am being honest, I don't think Android 18 ever surpassed Cell at his strongest. There's just no real evidence, especially since she's never really been in fights between her tournament fight with Goten and Trunks, and her fights in the tournament of power. Her fight with Beerus really isn't a fight. Even her fighting alongside 17 demonstrates more of their teamwork rather than their individual strength. 17 is clearly stronger than 18 by a decent amount. 18 is even shown working well with Krillin, despite being stronger than him. Aside from that, I think this list might be accurate. Although, I do think that super android 13 might be stronger than android 16.
Agreed. 18 was probably somewhat stronger than Semi-perfect Cell, but not close to perfect by a fair margin by the time of the ToP. The only time we see her train is in the Buu saga before the tournament (that kick-starts the entire Buu saga) and learning of the tournament of power and realising she and Krillin would be picked, hence their need to train.
17 on the other hand has been constantly active since acquiring the job of a park ranger, thus his body is accumulated to frequent changes and responses giving him far more "passive" training than 18 has (flying, using Ki, keeping the animals safe etc.)
@@drunkdrag0n It probably depends on which media you go by though. I only watched Super once, but didn't 18 divert Goku Blue's Kamehameha when she seen Krillin struggling in his sparring match with Goku.
Though Super is all over the place, hell SSJ Trunks when raged out became stronger than Blue Goku & Vegeta in the anime.
However there is a scene in the Buu arc (though I don't know if it's filler or not) that does show Krillin and 18 sparring, indicating that while she may not spend waking minute training like Goku and Vegeta, she and Krillin could of been doing some light sparring off sceen, which could of boosted their power over time.
So it's not impossible 18 grew in power like 17 did.
@@justinlynch3Exactly. If 17 got so strong just from fighting poachers, 18 can do the same fighting Krillin.
@@justinlynch3 krillin had to retrain for the top because he hadn't been training or fighting in a long time, so him training with 18 can't be true
@@drunkdrag0nmoron
I mean 14 and 15 should be WAY stronger than 19 or 20. Piccolo stomped 20 and he really shouldn't have been as strong as base Goku at the time, but 14 and 15 put up decent competition vs ssj Vegeta and Trunks.
End of 2023 buddy:) thanks for the content
Moodzi is there a fully realized amv of your opening song to this video? That was clean as hell.
Lol "hopefully he isn't a brainless meathead just in THE LAST 15 MINS"
Cell max gammas and perfect cell all take up like the first 5 places
Good one
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Did Moodzi use my rankings and reasonings though?
I don't know
What's your rankings
Why is 21 above DBS 17? She's only stronger than Post U6/Pre Black Arc Characters
The entire androids saga is just Terminator 2 Judgment Day. Goku’s return from yardrat was published a week after the film’s release. Trunks is just dragon ball’s John Connor.
22:16 epic foreshadowing.
Android 17’s strength makes perfect sense to me. In the Android saga with presumably no training he was far stronger than Frieza. Characters like Goku and Piccolo had to train their entire lives to that point to reach the level of strength 17 had naturally with no work. When Frieza finally trained he reached Super Saiyan Blue levels. If 17 also trained, it’s only logical he would also become that powerful. And of course since he’s a cyborg not a true android he could get stronger. As a side note, if Cell had the chance to train I wouldn’t be surprised if he could reach Jiren levels of power.
Could super 13 absorb parts of 16? If so wouldn't it make him on par with semi perfect cell?
Wow i love it
11:21 A baseball cap...you sir are incorrect. It's a trucker hat, damn yanks
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