Starlink's New Data Plans for Standard, Mobile & Mobile Priority - Lots of Changes for RV & Boat
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- čas přidán 10. 07. 2024
- SpaceX made some significant changes to its Starlink plans yesterday - simplifying what had been an increasingly complex range of plan offerings down to four primary plans featuring three network priority levels.
There are now four plans: Standard, Priority, Mobile and Mobile Priority - replacing Residential, Roam / RV, Business and Maritime.
But the newly defined plans come with new terms and restrictions - and particularly for those who use Starlink in motion or on the water, these new plans come with new limits and the potential for substantially increased costs.
So just what is new, what has been renamed, and what has stayed the same?
And how can nomadic users best take advantage of these new plan options - particularly considering the new capabilities that allow Starlink customers to change plans and purchase additional priority data as needed?
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0:00 Intro
1:22 Overview of Plan Changes and Priority Levels
3:02 Starlink Standard Plan Details
4:49 Starlink Priority Plan Details
6:33 Starlink Mobile Plan Details
9:34 Starlink Mobile Priority Plan Details
11:20 Changing Your Starlink Plan
12:51 Concluding Thoughts And Analysis
15:00 Outro
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Thanks Chris and Cherie for keeping us up to date on the Starlink moving target.
Best up-to-date video explaining starlink I have seen thanks for your effort and timeliness getting this out.
I was looking forward to getting Starlink but have been holding off due to the constant changes. I think I am done looking at it for now. I have the FMCA techconnect + and it works fantastically on the East coast. Next year we will be travelling out West and I was hoping for something to back it up. May just go with a second cellular carrier. Too much money for too little service.
Very helpful info, thanks for laying it all out and explaining it so thoroughly. I got the notice of the changes but you helped me understand it.
I'm hoping that since I go to remote places this won't affect my speeds much, but I'm not holding my breath.
Yay - Starlink’s plan of the month. The decision makers in Hawthorne had a night of drinking and shot the darts and here is the latest changes.
A good thing - you all sure explain this well.
This is also why the deal with Thor to mount dishes from the factory just shows another example of an RV company it understanding RVing in the real world.
Thanks Chris! - Yes, Starlink is certainly a moving target. - I have the Roaming - now Mobile plan for my RV. - Cheers!
I got a tip from another content creator to attach the dish and modem periodically (every month or two?) even when not in use to allow for firmware updates, so you don't get too far out-of-sync.
I honestly don't know how you keep track of all of these details, but thank you for doing so for our benefit! 🙏
It's with deep gratitude to our premium members who make it possible for our team to be super focused on this topic.
I haven't watched one of your videos in a while, I normally don't comment on folk's appearance but you look healthier. Thanks for laying out the new plans (and pitfalls) for us. Cheers.
Thank you.. yes, we've both been focused on healthy diet and exercise.
Starlink must be reaching their max subscribers and while I'd love to try it can't justify this investment. I noticed the price increase since the last time I checked a year ago. Thank you for the video explanation.
Great video Chris. Definitely let us know about the “mobility plan while at anchor” question! That is exactly my use case.
Ours too! I suspect that there will be a speed limit that below is considered “stopped”. In the past Starlink tested a 10mph cut-out, which was plenty fine for most slow-speed cruisers to even use in motion. Now we have heard reports of some now seeing issues at even 2 knots speed, which cuts our cruising but should be fine at anchor. We will see how it settles down over time.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenterI can't imagine that it would be based on swaying. It's probably more based on gps coordinates and if you move more than perhaps a 1km distance away from the shore line you're then flagged?
Great info. This perfect for us. Starlink is our primary internet source for now. We will be looking at Mobile Internet for some ideas to build a cellular system 😀
Wow thanks so much you always bring us the best up to date information. Thanks so much for sharing this and making it so it's understandable.
I have my dish mounted on the RV roof so we can have in motion internet across many areas of the country that do not have cell coverage. Expensive investment based on what Starlink terms of service (were). If it doesn't work in motion I do not see a need for it anymore since it was very slow due to the low priority. The value was using it at all times.
We use Starlink on coastal vessels with the standard dish. Till now on our location (Europe) we could not even order the larger dish. We will wait till may 9th to see what happens and then decide on what to do. The 50GB priority is costwise could still be acceptable, 1TB for 1100 dollars will be a stretch for most companies.
THANKS for the info 🦅🇺🇸👍😎
Great video Chris & Cherie! Thanks for keeping us up to date... It seems the high performance dish advertising in motion usage wasn't discussed well with the financial team. Or they just don't care, which is more likely. Frustrating, because it was a factor in our purchase. Thankfully, the ever changing rates, terms of service, and plans were also considered, so we're not overly surprised. We'll stick around for now, we're sure they'll change things again.
Regardless, if we really need a signal and there is none, we can stop. Plenty of places that still don't have squat for signal unless you can Starlink, and we aim to see quite a few of them this summer.
Thanks for the updates!
And keep in mind - even though Starlink has changed the terms around in motion usage, they might not start enforcing them anytime soon. So your current plan may keep working in motion for a while.
Please let us know if your in motion keeps working after May 9th. I am not RVing again until winter so won't be able to test it. Thanks
You explain this complicated subject very well. I'm going to hold off on starlink because they keep changing things.
Amen! If you don’t have one of their dishes, do not buy one and do not subscribe to their service because you have no earthly idea what the terms of that service are.
Thanks for the update. I've been planning to get the new flat high-perf hardware and using it with the $150 roam/mobile plan. Not so sure after these changes.
But, one question: On Starlink's website, when I select the flat high-perf hardware, it now defaults to the $250 50GB mobile priority plan. The $250 is built into the first required payment. There is no option to select the $150 or $200 mobile plan. Are you sure I can switch to the $150 plan later? If so, why can I not select it from the start?
Mine has been at a fixed address in Arizona for the last 8 months. I’m on my way to my house and the original address. It will remain there until I retire in 2 years and then I’ll see what they have available then. There might be better, more economical options then.
Well done...and I guess if you have nothing, these are reasonable plans/prices.
Great video, Chris! You didn't address the Standard + Roaming, which has been grandfathered in for us and other users. I'm curious to know if our options are limited due to the risk of losing this grandfathered feature when altering plans? Thank you both for all you do!
We covered this now grandfathered plan in the companion article. You can keep it for now, but can not change anything without losing it.
The plan changes are enough to keep me from activating mine for the majority of our travel. I expect within 6 months we will see additional price increases as long as demand for the service stays high. There are some places I travel though where even best effort is better than no service at all.
Was just a question of time before the plans were going to be refined like this. It’s very similar to mobile phone plans.
Still wish it was a bit more affordable. $250 for ocean in motion, plus a $2500 dish is a good penny.
I have Starlink RV and love it, but I'm telling you Starlink is going to keep screwing around with their plans and is going to get SMACKED with a class action lawsuit if they don't stop it. Especially with having people buy $2500 dishes with the possibility of using it mobile etc or even just the regular RV plans buying equipment and then afterwards charging more and lowering the service contract after you've already bought the equipment. They really better be careful and stop this crap.
I have start link but don't use allot. Just when camping or for emergency. 150 month not workable for budget. I got the overland weboost with the gold down antenna. It seems to help get signal in bad areas. No monthly fees. I love start link. Just like every thing. Cost are going up
Great breakdown. Appreciate it! What I’m still not clear on is if I switch to a plan that allows me in-motion use will it still work with my standard dish we modified and flat mounted? It was working just fine before these changes so I’m hoping that it will continue to work if I opt in for the in-motion even though I don’t have the high performance flat dish hardware.
As we stated.. we anticipate that Starlink might begin blocking in motion use on the Standard dish, which has always been against their terms of service.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter might being the key word. I have a support ticket open with them on this topic now. Will have to see what they say. The plans that mention in-motion ability also seem to say the HP is “recommended”. To me that doesn’t mean required. I personally hope they still allow it as purposely didn’t want the HP dish due to power use and added weight on the roof of the pop up camper. Money wise it would have been less expensive to get the HP dish than so the mods we did to get the standard dish flat mounted, but doing what we did made more sense all things considered, especially if in-motion still worked.
@@overlandv10 The ability to add mobile priority to my account showed up today. I'm in Canada, have the small rectangle dish roam plan. It's currently paused and will get activated in a couple weeks when we start going out and about in the motorhome. A slider showed up today in the account page labelled 'Manage Data', appears to allow me to opt in to mobile priority data at 2.63 per GB (Canadian pricing) and it states 'ocean access, in motion connectivity'.
It'll be interesting to see what happens when we turn it back on, it's cut down and flat mounted on the roof of the RV. The real question for me, if we opt in to the metered data, then opt out a couple days later, will that take effect right away, or will we be on the meter for the rest of the billing cycle ?
Thanks, great information. I've been thinking about trying Starlink for my overlanding rig, but the price is too high to make it worth it. I'm going to go with a Reboost system and the mobile hotshot feature of my cellphone.
8:30 you said: "now these Starling mobil plans do not include in motion usage". Where do you see those restrictions?
In Starlink's own TOS and information - including the screen cap we displayed in this video. Check the linked article as well.
Nice video! Here's something new I encountered, I went on the site and tried to purchase the high performance dish with the standard mobility $150 a month plan for my trailer. I don't need in motion but I want the better performance antenna. It appears that is not possible, I can't get the antenna without paying $250 per month. Is there any way around this? I haven't found ANYONE posting about this new limitation unless I'm missing something...
I asked the same question a few days ago in the comments here. No response, so I'm guessing they don't know the answer. I'm hoping that you can downgrade to the $150 plan after your first month.
Thanks for the video but I’m so confused! I have the portable dish that can not be used in motion/ what is mobile priority 2$/50gb? Do I need the upgraded dish to use in motion or can I use old dish if I upgrade to mobile priority 2$/gb option?
Any Dish can now switch to any plan, so you can get “mobile priority” data if you choose. But only the Flat HP model is officially useable while in motion.
Am I understanding right, I should be able to get a non in-motion plan to use in my rv around the country for $99/month?
The Mobile plan is $150/mo. Standard (residential) is $90 or $120, depending on the market.
mobile ranges from great to horrible in my area with speeds all the way up over 100 and lows of 1.5. it's not enough in the evenings. Switched to the priority 1tb and it is fantastic. The priority data is always over 20mbps and usually around 50-100. I haven't run out of priority data so I can't say what speeds I get with the unlimited Standard, but as long as it is around 10-15, I'll be happy. I can't get residential at my home, so the 1tb priority plan is the only option paired with buying the mobile equipment out the gate. Once residential is available, I'll switch. It's been a life saver to allow a family member to work from home and I am looking into that as well. It's well worth the 250 dollar a month cost if you factor in not paying for gas and wear on the car. If it was not a justified purpose it would be way too expensive and I find the idea of a 5000 dollar a month plan option to be laughable and insulting. I had no other options whatsoever except crappy dsl that loses connection every few minutes and barely get 3 download and .75 upload. For me, even 10mbps is lightning fast so I don't care that I'm not getting 100 all the time. I just hope they continue to reach the east coast cause it's pretty barren out here for internet options and it would be nice to pay 120 bucks with residential instead of 250. As long as it at least stays over 15mbps I'll be happy.
Big unanswered question!! Is the $2/GB on top of the $150/month subscription or in lieu of it.
On another subject $150 for an occasional RV weekend excursion is expensive. I'd like a day by day or $/GB plan.
It is on top of - if you want priority data.
Thank you! I go between two homes each year. About 6 months at each. What is best service for me? Thanks again! ❤
Depends if there is open capacity at each location to get Standard service or not.
Outstanding review. The key question is when will Starlink have some competition so that the pricing will come down?
Amazon is investing billions to build a Starlink competitor - but they are years behind.
I run a non-profit. I have been told starlink has special pricing for non-profits. Can’t find a phone number or an email to contact them. Anyone know of one for their section that deals with nonprofits?
We are focused on mobile internet options for RVers and cruisers.
Love this video sir,
I am working onboard the ship, what do you think is the most affordable plan for me? In every plan Am I still need to buy the hardware? My bad not really familiar with starlink😀
For in motion use on the ocean, the $250/mo plan gives you 50GB of access a month. And yes, you would need to purchase the equipment and be able to aim it to the open sky.
Each summer I think maybe I better sign up for Starlink. Then I check the latest prices and find that sterling service just costs too much. I have learned to do with very little gigabytes of data via cellular over the past few years and I believe I’ll just continue exercising restraint concerning my monthly data usage. I would like to support what Elon is doing yet I think the honeymoon is now over. Thanks for the video.
I know this sounds strange but I think there is an additional plan you didn't mention. I have the residential/standard plan (priority), with portability (best effort). The monthly payment is $145. I think I must have gotten grandfathered in to it.
That plan is grandfathered in, and covered in the linked companion article.
I just got mine and the plans are a bit different now. But I’m still not sure which plan to upgrade to, mobile regional says it will give the best service at my location but with metered mobile priority with high speeds, but priority says it’s best for high demand users at one location. If anyone knows which one would be better please let me know thanks!
The plans outlined in this video are the current plans. Mobile Regional is always low priority data. It's Mobile Priority that has metered priority data. If you're stationary in a fixed location, Standard is the best option - always priority data, lowest cost.
I used the Mobile plan last year while traveling.. low priority was only during peak hours. (5pm-10pm) Is that 100% of the time now or still only during the peak hours?
It's always low priority.. but you'll most feel it during peak times of use when more folks are online. Which is typically evenings (the Netflix hours).
Wow, the business practices of Starlink are ridiculous. Really glad I saw this because I just returned a system to a seller on eBay who either couldn’t get support from them to resolve a problem transferring the dish, couldn’t figure out how to complete the transfer process even given the links to directions on how to complete the process that I sent him myself, or was straight up trying to scam me. Fortunately did everything by the books on the return per eBay’s system so I fully expect to get my money back, but was seriously considering ordering a new unit directly from SpaceX because of the problems and fact that I seriously think there was a good chance he was trying to scam me. After seeing them completely fail to grandfather existing customers into the plans in place when they signed up for the service, combined with the sheer number of significant changes they have made, especially performance for Roam that are now no better than my cell plans, and in 5G areas quite possibly worse, I think I’m going to hold off a while longer until we hear more about Kaiper.
Amazon’s Kuiper is still several years away, but it aims to be compelling. Starlink in areas with good cellular is often nowhere near cellular performance, but many areas do not have great cellular. Using both - and bonding them together - is a great way to go.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter I get it and was looking forward to having it. We are full time and have our disabled 19yo son with us who’s life revolves around reliable access to internet, but I can’t afford to plunk down $700 for the equipment after taxes and shipping only to have the price and plan terms change to the point of being a useless waste of money.
Appreciate your efforts to get info like this out in a timely way.
Thanks for that info. I've always been interested in Starlink but I think that interest has lessened. I think my simple grandfathered in unlimited Verizon WiFi sytem is just fine.
We are on the waitlist for residential as of Dec '22. I just found out some ppl in our area have waited 2 years! We are wondering if we should cancel and get Roam then switch to residential once its available but there seems to be conflicting information on this?
If you're good with Best Effort service - but if that area is truly at capacity, you may get really slow speeds at that location.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter so we could actually have Roam and switch to residential later without changing equipment? We've heard from others in our area that Best effort worked well.
Yep - you can change plans now, so you can switch when capacity opens up.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter thank you for responding to me and so quickly!
Unfortunately, I just returned for poor internet and “prioritizing “ usage, in Lubbock, Texas, of all places. Stopped working on cloudy days. I just can’t trust the service, even in arid, unpopulated West Texas..Hope you have better luck. I would’ve loved to of seen how it would’ve worked, in the New Mexico mountains. But, since it didn’t work in Lubbock, I didn’t have any faith in it working anywhere else
Thanks for this video. I got the notice I was in the ocean in the past 60 days. I'm making a passage next Monday. Can I send you all some data about what works and what doesn't depending on how far from land I am?
We are tracking several boating groups where such reports are being shared regularly.
I am one of those folks and I’ve never been further offshore than where I can basically see my house with binoculars. Starlink has lost its mind if they think that within seven or eight miles of the coast of Florida is offshore. Class action anyone?
Please. I would love to know what Starlink actually considers to be ocean since the terms of service don’t define it with any specificity.
I've got the notice, even thou I have no boat and my antenna is fixed to the roof of my van. I was in Hatteras, NC and on Key West, Fl, but I drove over there on the roads and bridges, not on the ferries or boats.
What happened to the Continental and world plans? I just started my service this month on my boat that will be used for intercostal or near coastal travel. I got an email this week about opting into “Mobile Priority Data for $2/GB”. Would this be in addition to the $150/month I’m paying now? If I’m motoring in shore on the waterway on near shore ( < 25 miles offshore) do I need the priority plan? I very confused. If my boat is in its slip in Jacksonville, can I change to a different plan until I move the boat then change to a different plan when I go up the coats to Annapolis or elsewhere. What about to the Bahamas? Can I change back when the boat is back home? The Continental plan was supposed to cover the North American continent. Is that gone now?
The Mobile plan covers all of the North America Continent on land. Their Global plan covers the world on land. Mobile Priority is needed for open water. Starlink updated their terms yesterday (after this video) to define land as anywhere listed as Available, Waitlist or Coming soon on their coverage map (including water). Ocean data is black on their map. And yes, as covered in this video - you can change plans as needed.
At those prices i think for most cruisers going back to cell data might start to make sense
There’s no cell data once you get a couple dozen miles offshore. But for inland cruisers, yes - cell can work great.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter having watched a lot of cruisers they spend 99% of there nights anchored close to shore. So ya i think for most just getting a local sim card would be the best option. Cell data speed is getting so good.
Mobile-Regional now has $2 per priority GB "Opt in to Mobile Priority Data to enable network priority, ocean access, in-motion connectivity, and global use."
Yes, that is covered in this video.
you need to notice on the price sheet you showed these words.... ""RECOMMENDED HARDWARE"". it does not say "mandatory hardware", right?
Correct
We plan on doing a camp hosting job for about 6 months. This makes us stationary for that time. No real address but one near by for a church camp. Would this be considered stationary for the time. No cell service at all and people before us did use Starlink at this camp.
Absolutely you could use Starlink Standard. When you set an address, you can use GPS coordinates.
One month I did 3 terabytes on my ATT Mobley for 22 bucks a month. My daughters homebase Starlink performs worse than my Mobley in metro areas, and they raised the price 2X already.
I have a mobile plan, and it is COMMON to get 5mbps or lower.
I haven't seen anything to justify most of us to ever use Starlink. My truck has a very good hotspot in it that I can use on the road, same with my phone and cell service just keeps getting better. It seems that yachts and other ocean cruisers will get the most use from Starlink, and if they ever get any competition, we will see costs come down just like all other new technologies. Also, as Starlink gets most of their satellites in place, that will also improve the service and lower prices.
Thanks for the update. My question is about pausing - I thought that was a feature of the RV plan. Is that still possible or did that go away?
Yes, pausing (as indicated on our info card) is still a feature of the Mobile plans.
The Mobile and Mobile Priority plans can be paused, like the RV plan could be. Pausing is not pro-rated, it is in full month increments.
So are existing users grandfathered in? I bought the $2500 mobile dish and use it in motion a great deal. Am I going to have to pay $2 per GB now?
No grandfathering in that we know of, unfortunately. We have reached out to Starlink via Winegard for further clarification.
This is what is called a bait and switch. Class action anyone?
@@haroldfletcher5493 I was thinking they are opening themselves up to that issue as well. It's fine to have changing terms of service, but this comes across more as false advertising if they'll now let any dish do it if they pay extra. The FCC probably won't take too kindly to that behavior either.
Please tell us about those bikes.
Check out our personal travel channel at Technomadia - we've covered them there. This is our work space dedicated to mobile internet.
So I was suspicious of Starlink when it came out. Sounded too good to be true, a lot like how they were talking about nuclear power back in the 70s. Electricity was going to be “too cheap to meter”. Well we saw how that worked out. The same has happened with Starlink, tiered service, rules to make you pay more for priority l, more expensive hardware etc. So glad I passed on this. Terrestrial services are working well for me for a lot less $$.
There’s not a damn thing wrong with a nuclear power plant. I anchor my sailboat across from one off of Homestead Florida all the time. I sleep like a baby. Your analogy is completely flawed. On the other hand, Starlink is completely flawed.
It seems SpaceX, is doing just like many other technology companies have done before it. They start with very attractive offers/benefits for their solutions and services. And when you're hooked, make gradual changes that benefits you less and less, while costing you more and more. Apple, Google, and Microsoft have done it. Now it's Starlink's turn. I guess that's why they make multi-billions in profit every year.
Understandable changes considering the landscape [no pun intended]. However, to some this'll either be a game changer, or a difficult new option when going on the freedom road for a while. There are so many mobile families at present, who have CZcams channels with consistently updated content, that I can see a few of them being pretty bugged out at these new plan options. As a European mobile data user, these tariffs would crush me. Far too expensive especially for those working on the road, and personally, the personal info that SLink will be able to obtain also bothers me. Giving them any location details would turn me off as would the backward idea of paying as you go for further data if you hit your limit. Some people will be far better off buying cellular data on a fairer plan and using that when they have a strong enough signal. Sorry, but I'd have to be heck of a desperate to buy into the any of the new tariffs. The masses of people working from mobile location, on the road, may be the only ones to truly benefit from Star Links new setup.
I am curious to see how well they will consider me stationary if my home base mounted on my vehicle goes while I make a quick run to the grocery store and right back home, whether that few mile temporary drive is considered to be outsode of my home base or not.
Also, why would anyone land base use Starlink in motion on the road? That is the ONE place where data only devices and plans from cell service providers (except the hole in Nebraska and eastern Wyoming and parts of North and South Dakota andaybe eastern Montana) work generally better than anything Starlink has to offer. A 100 GB data plan on the road from T-Mobile for $50 is quite affordable while driving compared to the Starlink upgrade for land motion plans. IMO, it pays to have a backup plan on some other device anyway, just in case.
For sure, no one tops Starlink in areas with NO coverage. ...I say that as I continue to wait for waitlisted service to arrive since 2021 coverage at my home base in E. TN. So many rural areas of Esstern US really do have zero ISP coverage and limited Cell coverage!
Starlink in motion worked actually quite well.. plenty of places where there's no cell signal along some back road ways.
I am currently using Starlink in-motion due to lack of cell service in rural areas. I have 5g modems for Verizon, T-mobile, AND At&t, and still find myself in rural areas with no signal.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter AGREE! Apparently going to be a past tense service going forward... Sigh. Starlink will be successful wherever they are competitive or the only game in town. I just noted that outrageous costs to operate in motion does not seem to be competitively priced with other cell service plans out there.
Time will tell. I DO appreciate Elon being able to spin on a dime, though. NOTHING pushes innovation better than that Agile process. (I understand his Agile and Scrum processes works on a 3-hour, rather than more.typical 2-week cycle.)
FYI another messed up thing about starlink.. my buddy was in Mexico cruising on his sailboat and ordered starlink .. about a year ago and only $300 for sale dish we pay $600 for and $65 and month vs 130$😡
Indeed - Starlink service is priced differently all around the world. It only makes sense - every market has different competitive situations.
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Thanks for clarifying the service levels. I was considering getting the hardware on the $199 deal and looking into a plan. From your explanation the plans are all ridiculously expensive. I pay $50 a month for 300GB unlimited now at home in Canada and would like to be able to get internet I can use at home and travel with. All the plans are many times more than I would consider paying. I guess I will be buying SIM cards and living without where I can't get service. I am not sure who would think any of those plans are a good deal unless you can get no other service at all. I also don't like the idea of supporting Elon in any way.
Can you get the starlink maritime plan and use it both on land and on your boat so you can take it on the water one day and stick it on your truck the next
Yes..or you can switch plans as needed.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter please correct me if I'm wrong I want to make the best decision we're looking at the business version of the land Mobility plan with the inmotion use but according to the starlink website the maritime plan which is identical it also has the ability to take it on a boat and it's the same $250 or either plan
Here's our guide to all of their plans: www.rvmobileinternet.com/starlink
Starlink now has my fixed location dish pointed out over the ocean. Guess I'm getting premium service at the standard rate.
Starlink has for a while been aiming coastal systems out over the water to keep more capacity free over land. But your data is still running at Standard priority.
Is this pricing per month, week, hour???? And how would switching work when charged per month, week, HR??? Also what about pausing service's?? And we still have to pay for equipment?
The prices are per month. Switching to a more expensive plan triggers an immediate pro-rated extra charge. Switching to a cheaper plan goes into effect on your next billing date.
I have been getting less than 5 mbps for a week on Starlink’s mobile plan. This is anytime day or night not just peak periods. Before that I was getting 50+ mbps. With these recent changes Starlink is unusable. I created a ticket 5 days ago (since you can’t call) and no help so far. Might be time to get rid of Starlink. It is too expensive for what I am getting. Anyone else experiencing the same or is it just me?
You need to do a video every day to keep up with the TOS changes.
Feels like it some days!
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter I need to order a system soon for a boat. I like the low power draw of the standard dish but afraid they are going to shut down all in-motion use for anything other than the HP dish.
The Standard dish has never supported in motion use officially, they can indeed enforce their terms at any time.
The problem with Starlink is cost, cost, cost!
I'm a little confused. I thought it was $500 for initial materials + $99 a month!?! These prices suck!?!
That was closer to the initial pricing when it first rolled out almost 2 years ago. Many price increases since then.
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter Bummer. I couldn't figure out why people have been walking away from it, until now.
Hi i just came across your channel while searching for new information about starlink.
Once hearing your comment in the Intro explaining how this company policy changing their fees and conditions on very short period make this company for me unreliable.
Looking at their monthly fees for mobile priority show me that they are unrealistic baring in mind that they might make amendments ending the price by the end of the year with $ 10000 a month.
Who knows what comes next on their mind of you follow their prises chart when they started and the monthly fees for 2023 there is a dramatic steep gradient.
What I am feeling sorry for in this case is that customer are still willing to accept such amendments.
I do not trust such company despite the fact that they have a good and product
Sounds like STARLINK is now in the bait & switch game.
For RVers and boat cruisers, this was a God Send - now its Game Over unless you can afford an arm or a leg.
Elon, NOT FAIR, Dude. We are not mega rich.
Class action anyone?
There are just now different tiers of service - it only costs an arm and a leg if you want to be prioritized, or if you want a lot of data in the ocean. You can still manage your plan and get a lot of usage out of the $120/mo Standard plan, particularly if you combine it with cellular.
A bit entitled are we?
Welp. Thanks for the update. I won't be using starlink. I look forward to an update when their customer base diminishes.
When does the price change go into effect? I'm paying $110 and no one else has Starlink in my small town.
It is rolling out now, based on your billing date. You should see your Starlink Standard price shift to either $120/mo or $90/mo depending on where you are located.
Residential (now Standard) pricing changed effective April 24 (it was announced back in February).
@@MobileInternetResourceCenter ok that makes sense. my next bill should be where I see the change.
just wonder why it is 360p
Because CZcams us taking hours to process videos. So annoying. We uploaded in 4K - this is all CZcams being lame.
Finally... over 3 hrs since we completed a 2 hr upload after 15 hours of production ... CZcams has graced us with 4K. Whew.
@Mobile Internet Resource Center yep it very slow it finally shows up to me looks like today i saw it so soon compared to other day i see it a few hours later
Unfortunately, it looks like they need some competition...the rates are too high.
Jeff Bezos is working on it.. will probably be a few years, and he's dependent on SpaceX to launch.
Only for the rich, not the masses. Yatch owners don't mind paying 5K/mo.
Using sattellites is expensive and recycling rockets isnt gonna change that. It is becoming a very expensive premium service and even people with yachts and RVs are now hit by new rules (double expensive). I suspect its not gonna work 100% and changes had to be made to focus on those that can really afford it. A full broadband service at $90-99 a month is gone. People are transitioning again to 5G Networks with unlimited data and 200-800Mbps speeds even up to 10 miles offshore.
1:00 why is this dude holding a Minecraft shield?
Not for me at this point.
Still waiting for the promised $70 a month, $100 equipment cost plans.
The pricing will be the death of this promising technology.
How are people who have no clue what the hell a router is supposed to understand? I need space x for dummies.
Here's our starter guide to Starlink: www.rvmobileinternet.com/starlink
Thank you for breaking this down. Musk has a way of making bad things look good. This seemed like a good idea but now just looks like a future replacement for ancient satellite internet. Im pretty sure cell towers will beat Elon before he can even get Starlink working as intended.
Sounds like Something I won't Be buying. That's what it sounds like to me.
Just talked, talked and talked, we want to see you, install, show it working etc...
This is a news story covering the latest data plans, not an installation video or video on Starlink itself.
RV users have been getting screwed over again and again and keep getting less service and higher costs.
Higher costs.. yes. But service level has actually increased with ability to add priority data as needed.
Electric Jesus likes to mvoe the goalposts alot.
a Bunch of crooks! They need to be ignored for a few months and their outrageous prices will fall.
So pay a premium for their deprioritized mobile service, or pay $2/GB to be treated like a stationary customer paying far less. No thanks. What a joke this turned out to be.
No, to be treated like a Maritime / Business customer, actually.
Stationary Standard customers are middle tier priority. People who pay for Priority are ahead of them - but it is indeed a steep price.
Highway robbery it’s just like cell service used to be.
Oh boy, there it is, Elon changing the terms and conditions at will AFTER many have it and got used to it. Everyone, bendover and grab your ankles, hope the use of lubricant was optioned.
Elon wans the subscribers to pay their buy of tweeter
what a price joke,
From what I can see it isn’t worth it.
Hopefully Amazon will kick Starlink amateurs ass soon to take over the market at lower cost !!! I am sure they will
Amazon has a promising roadmap - but they are years behind and have a long long way to go to catch up. Hopefully it turns into an exciting race, and competition helps customers win!
I watched half the vid and said what hell? This is way to confusing, Elon is just trying to milk it. I will do with out before playing this game.
Respectfully, you’re a total fanboy and are giving Starlink and it’s legal staff far too much undeserved license.
I’ve been a business lawyer for almost 50 years. I have read the terms of service from one end to the other. The definitions are so vague that no one can begin to tell where “ocean“ starts. If you live anywhere on the coast of the United States east, gulf or west, you have no idea what the word “ocean“ in the Starlink terms of service means. You used the term in your video, “nearshore.“ What in the Hell does that mean? Is the intracoastal waterway (East Coast, Gulf coast or Western) nearshore or is it an “inland river?“ Is Biscayne, Mobile or Chesapeake Bay nearshore or are they “inland waters?“
I received an email the other day telling me that I had violated my terms of service and my Starlink dish has never been more than eight nautical miles from coastal US land and I have never been outside of coverage of cell towers, both 5G and LTE.
Anywhere within 12 nautical miles of low water point shore is considered to be the United States for any and all purposes..
I completely agree that it’s not fair for someone making a passage from the United States to Bermuda to not be considered to be in the “ocean.“ But in light of the fact that my house is 5+ miles inland, within the city limits of a major city in Florida and is on a salt water canal that is part of the intracoastal waterway how in the hell does Starlink consider that to be on the ocean?
I can, and I am willing to, abide by anyone’s rules as long as they are clearly stated. But Starlink refuses to state its rules in a clear, definitive, and specific manner. It just wants to be squishy and change them any way it wants, whenever it wants. I’m willing to be fair. But they need to be fair with us too. If this keeps up, I hope that every falcon nine, every falcon heavy, and every starship crashes immediately upon launch (assuming it doesn’t have human beings on it) and Elon Musk goes completely broke. Apparently, Starlink has the worst lawyers on God’s green earth. They cannot, choose not, or have been instructed to not write a contract, certainly not one that’s enforceable other than by turning my service off. And if they do that I will be glad to be the lead plaintiff in a class action suit against Starlink. Let’s see how much Elon likes that. My monthly payments are not that significant to Starlink. But I will guarantee you that the plaintiffs lawyers court awarded fees in that class action suit will be meaningful to Starlink.
While we can't say for 100% on their policy on this yet, but from responses I've see from CSR's and even a short lived FAQ statement that has now been removed, it has been suggested that if the cell is blue and listed as available, waitlisted, or coming soon on the standard Starlink map, it's considered on-land use. If the cell is black, it's considered ocean data.
I have them, don’t use it. Turned it off. WAY TOO MUCH,Way too many hoops. And we Love the forest and Trees and the ocean and Trees. Just to complicated. I am over 70, just too complicated…..