How to pass rough electrical inspection on main panel
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I dont care what anyone says I try my best to make it look nice I want my brothers and sisters to see clean work and think I did it.
I know the first thing my local inspector(s) will question & more than likely make us relocate is that abundance of NM Cable crowded on what looks to be like an entrance to a chase or raceway. I can hear it now… “do you how much heat that will create when those homeruns start getting real loads on them, then there is no way for those conductors to dissipate heat.” Looks clean but I learned the hard way, gotta make it clean while following you’re current NEC that you’re local city / town follows when permits were initially pulled. Don’t know what state thats in but most of Northeast doesn’t allow non insulated cable staples unless its old work that you can prove its old then it’s grandfathered in. Keep up the good work.
If I was an inspector would question possible heat build up where approximately 27 NM cables enter thru hard to tell if one to four holes. Nice neat run.
I’ve found Taking pride in your work isn’t just about making stuff look nice. How you do one thing is how you’re going to do everything. Sweat the little details and you won’t have to sweat the big stuff as much. “Do it nice or do it twice.”
Nec says when more than 4 wires go into a hole covered in spray foam, they have to be derated, that hple has like 30 wires going into it
Hi that's the hole for the me in panel though isn't It?
@carlmarquardt994 each hole in the panel can only hold a certain amount of cable, if you need more holes you need to drill more holes or use knockouts built in if po6
@@marcusbevz6500iv passses many inspirations as long as the wires arent all fucked from going into one hoe is good he probably means on those 3/8s that can hold like two wired or the 3/4 that can take like 4 n dtill pas
I was just thinking the same thing.
Everything looks good until the hole. That's a fucking rats nest.
*_NEC_* will inform you that you can't staple flat cables on edge.
*_OCD_* will prevent you from doing it in the first place.
What code is that? Just curious cause every place is different
@@sethbrown7275 - It's not a _local_ code, it's per the *National* Electrical Code (2020):
*_"334.30 Securing and Supporting._*_ Nonmetallic-sheathed cable shall be supported and secured by staples, cable ties listed and identified for securement and support, or straps, hangers, or similar fittings designed and installed so as not to damage the cable, at intervals not exceeding 1.4 m (4 ½ ft) and within 300 mm (12 in.) of every cable entry into enclosures such as outlet boxes, junction boxes, cabinets, or fittings. The cable length between the cable entry and the closest cable support shall not exceed 450 mm (18 in.). _*_Flat cables shall not be stapled on edge."_*
@@sethbrown7275NEC 334.30 🫡
@@sethbrown7275Article 334. That’s the section for NM cable.
@@sethbrown7275 honestly its probably not code aside from code forcing you to install a product by the manufacturer's guidelines. the manufacturer of the staple and the manufacturer of the cable probably specify how to properly secure the cable
You got me at, this is Vinni the Handyman 😂
334.80 Ampacity
The ampacity of Types NM and NMC cable shall be determined in accordance with 310.14. The ampacity shall not exceed that of a 60°C (140°F) rated conductor. The 90°C (194°F) rating shall be permitted to be used for ampacity adjustment and correction calculations, provided the final calculated ampacity does not exceed that of a 60°C (140°F) rated conductor. The ampacity of Types NM and NMC cable installed in cable trays shall be determined in accordance with 392.80(A).
Where more than two NM cables containing two or more current-carrying conductors are installed, without maintaining spacing between the cables, through the same opening in wood framing that is to be sealed with thermal insulation, caulk, or sealing foam, the ampacity of each conductor shall be adjusted in accordance with Table 310.15(C)(1) and 310.14(A)(2), Exception, shall not apply.
Where more than two NM cables containing two or more current-carrying conductors are installed in contact with thermal insulation without maintaining spacing between cables, the ampacity of each conductor shall be adjusted in accordance with Table 310.15(C)(1) and 310.14(A)(2), Exception shall not apply.
My state requires staples to have insulation on them, but I’m not going to be ignorant like a lot of commentators and say you’re wrong because I think my state is the only one that does stuff right lol. Good job! Looks good.
Actually I think insulation on staples is a good thing. I do a lot of remodeling and the Romex gets damaged from the staples when removed. Can get annoying when you have to rewire. Thanks for posting your thoughts. Have a great weekend!
@@vinnythehandyman they definitely have their benefits.. but you can probably pinch the wire and not notice it with the insulation. It’s easier to be careless when the wire behind the staple is hidden. My point was to show how dumb people look when criticizing lol
Insulated staples are not to prevent damage to the cable but rather prevent a short to conductive staple in the event the wire is damaged
Pure BS making a qualified licensed electrician use insulated staples. Its been over 50 years since I hammered in a staple too tight. After to you drive a few thousand staples you get the feel for setting them.
Connecticut. Wire fill. Insulated staples. Cable layed flat. I'm sure if we seen more videos. We could not pick more
American wiring never cease to amaze me.😮
In what way are you amazed? Is it good or bad?
@@thomasdragosr.841 Where to start, I've never seen loose cables or wires trough a wall in my life (no matter how old the building), everything that's not feeded by a plug is in conduit. Going sideways trough a wall, what's that about? We always go straight up to the ceiling from every switch or outlet so you know where the wires are. Drilling in this kind of wall looks like Russian roulette. Wire nuts, haven't seen those used since the seventies. And outside, what's with this wiring and transformers dangling on wooden poles? I'm almost 60 and I can't remember power lines not being under ground (unless it's very high voltage long distance). Bonding ground and neutral, it probably has to do with the split fase system, but that's very weird to me. In this video I see some sort of staples holding the cables? That would be a really big no no for us. I could go on for a while. Not saying it's bad, but it all looks so different to me, very fascinating.
We use conduits in some parts of europe for extra safety. Also it is much easier to rewire, no need to tear down the wall.
I'm glad I'm not the electrical liability insurance for this is close to bundling a heat problem around wood with that many conductors going through one opening, good luck
Why not use a big pull box, then run a few conduits for the main panel. This allows for clean and future work (if needed).
It’s ressie work bro chill
@rlopez551
That's how I was taught. Always think about the future and always respect code.
The idea of a neat and tidy job is good stuff.
I WAS hoping for more though...
Thanks for the comment. Sorry, it was a CZcams short video. I will have to do a longer one in the future. Thanks for watching
Absolutely stunning!
One or two cables per hole!
Romex is so f’n easy
Legal in canada since we derate the cables already using 75degree c table when terminated on a circuit breaker so the wires are up sized to begin with . Dont need to derate 2 times .
Not up sized wire but allowable ampacity is lowered
These NM-B cables are actually rated up to 90C, but the you are required to treat the maximum ampacity as the 60C value. So if you are derating, you can derate from the 90C value and the installed ampacity will be the lesser of the 60C value or the derated 90C value.
Looks Like Staples Are further than 4 1/2 Feet apart?, a couple 2 X 4's can Fix if not. Looks Good, Seperation Keeps from Overheating..
Through a hole is not the problem. Its a extended tube run where heat is the problem. A short tube open at both ends also has "air flow" and acts different. I am sure someone can site the codes on this stuff.
Many vatiances for different situations.
In my experience.. if you have to force a wire into a conduit.. its to small.
I always oversize the conduit. Just makes it easy. And costs not much more.
Nice. Just for curiosity what size of conduict di you use to connect to the pannel?
Bundling/derating only applies to conductors that are longer than 24 inches. No one ever seems to read that!
On this episode of Things Not Do, we create a fire hazard!
When you hear “handyman” run the other way. And call a professional that has a license.
I’m a licensed handyman.. come again?
Suck a dildo dawg 😂😂😂 i work with guy RIGHT NOW that’ll piss on allll your licensed workers… you’re not blue collar CLEARLY
@@420gasstationI'm a professional DIYer
Serious question why is pvc conduit not a thing in the usa?
The market wouldn't be able to support it.
@LupusRex-hf2rl I am from the Netherlands, all electricity is inside the wall in pvc conduit. Its neat, clean, easy to secure and easy to fish new wires.
I don’t get why all of the runs need to be spaced apart if they all end up making contact anyways when they exit through the same hole????
Well, to be fair, you'd have heat build up for the entire run instead of at one small point. Better dissapation for one.
Styrofoam 🔥 block hmmmm…. I prefer hiliti
Why use 14 gauge? Will using 12 for everything cause issues? Or is it a price issue?
Price issue in most cases especially when there are large subdivisions. Usually ceiling lights are 14 because of low amps. When I built my basement I used 12 gauge for entire basement.
A lot of people run 14 for the circuits solely dedicated to lighting. Lighting alone doesn't need more than 14, which is smaller thus having less copper than 12 therefore being cheaper, n really making a difference when you run a company and purchase several hundred roles a year
*rolls
Plumber comes through and messes it all up.
How many hours did you charge for that cleanness?
Is that a studio?
This is what a nightmare of a a rework looks like also 😂
Why are those two 14/2 wires to the left,not coming straight through the flior?Why are the on a angle?
They are supposed to be flat. They were loose and moved. Staple flat
That looks like a nightmare when those wires finally arc flash.
Are you a master electrician?
Why use Romex and not conduit? The mice chew Romex
Running hundreds of feet of conduit is expensive; would probably double the cost of the job through increased material costs and the additional labor of routing it. Not to mention that US-based architects and engineers will not be designing with having to accommodate conduit in mind, so you may run into conflicts with framing and other mechanicals.
Except in very specific circumstances (mostly Chicago), residential interiors do not use conduit and builders and homeowners would almost never accept a bid that uses it because it would be WAY above what they expect to pay.
Only 3 12/2 circuits? Think about the kitchen and bathrooms.
Looks like 5 from the bottom plate and 3 coming in from the top. So 8 - 12/2 ckts.
Why staples doesn’t sound safe on electric wires
Electrical staples have been used forever. They are specifically listed and tested for use with NM-B cable.
Are you just showing off? Lol. Cuz it does look nice
What's the difference between a neutral and a ground?
Current and no current
@@johnkulpowich5260 Nope
@@Churchofhell yes
@@Churchofhell ground carries fault
@@johnkulpowich5260 Hell no, neutral never carries the load.
Never never never run all your home runs through one conduit
Why not?
@@mouhamadoutall4004heat build up from the magnetic fields
Same reason you don't put all your eggs in one basket.
@@mouhamadoutall4004 looks like shit, no strain relief, fire hazard especially without derates
Why #14 romex?! We only run #12 home runs to each room
because not all the rooms are #12?
Spray foam is not fire blocking
The orange stuff is UL723 listed fire blocking.
We use either 3M or Locktite.
Not code compliant where I’m from. Straighten those wires out bro.
That is not real fire blocking try using that stuff on comercial
Bruh what inspector is passing this? I know quite a few and none of them are passing this bubba😂lol
Give more details. How many pieces of romex under one staple. Maximum distance between staple points, etc. The devil is in the details.
this is horrible. don't do this, you'll get your house on fire one day...
Bundeling
There are so many red flags not to code
Dude doesn’t even know you can’t staple romex on the edge of the cable like that. Please just hire a licensed electrician or talk to one if you can’t afford it.
thats not even the right staples haha crazy people
The staples are fine, probably the most commonly used
Yeah, what's wrong with the staples? 😂🚮
@danielwoolsey6267 maybe in Mexico
@ElectricianMagician That's why you're making less than me
Looks like an unsuccessful attempt to make neat work but good try. I’ve definitely seen worse. Haha.
🙏getting better by the job . Thanks for watching brother.
@@vinnythehandyman
No problem. Keep trying. You’ll possibly eventually get it.
Y’all are bundling through one pass through. This is unacceptable. I get it but it’s not code. Y’all ever heard of induction?
What’s that
@@supercooldude824 look it up!
This would never pass inspection
That is not clean work fella
Americans.........
Bruh that’s Garbo
You use conductive staples on electrical cable 🤦🤦🤦
🤔 Seems like a dumb comment
@@ElectricianMagician What’s dumb about it… Metal staples conduct electricity right, when firing the staples in, you could nick/damage the cable right. There’s nothing dumb about the comment, just ignorant people that don’t understand the dangers.
Your stapling is scuk dont thing it would pass inspection
Your typing and sentence structure sucks.
Hack.
Soooo dumb that they install the panel outside
Why?
Droooooooopy. Tighten ur home runs bud
Looks sloppy
Other then that good job champ
So many things wrong with this. PLEASE don't take electrical advice from a "handyman"
This does not look nice.
You didn't derate