Does The Tesla Semi Live Up To The Hype?
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- čas přidán 12. 02. 2023
- Five years after Elon Musk first announced the Tesla Semi, it’s finally hitting roads. CNBC visited Pepsi’s Frito-Lay facility in Modesto, California, where it is using the new electric trucks, to see whether the Semis live up to the hype.
Chapters:
2:12 Ch 1 - Tesla Semi
6:16 Ch 2 - Frito-Lay’s Tesla Semis
9:16 Ch 3 - Challenges
Produced by: Andrew Evers
Supervising Producer: Jeniece Pettitt
Additional Camera: Katie Tarasov
Narration by: Erin Black
Graphics by: Alex Wood
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Does The Tesla Semi Live Up To The Hype?
They should have included feedback from actual drivers
Pepsi Co refused to let them interview the drivers
@@Cris_the_coder lmao imagine cutting off real reviews
@@Cris_the_coder I answered his question based on what was said in the video at 8:23. Why are you getting heated?
@@IzyHamblinz My bad if it sounded like I was heated I wasn't. You were right, I was just trying to say that it's Pepsi's decision at the end of the day and that there're other videos about the trucks experience if you really want to hear about it. Have a good day and remember to drink water 🌊
They did state some of the generalized feedback they'd gotten from their drivers which was mostly positive. I doubt it's all sunshine and roses, but it's probably sent to Tesla to try and mitigate some of the issues. They also use electric trucks other than the Tesla semi. Pepsi also probably didn't want their drivers bothered by reporters, among other concerns.
This felt more like a PepsiCo/FritoLay commercial than a 16 min Tesla infomercial 😭
That's exactly why PepsiCo bought these trucks.
@@truantray they wanted the clout so bad 😂😂
Amen ! Most underrated comment in this cleaned up/purified comment section . DO ... You are the goat ! Be safe out there .
You mean 6 min and 10 seconds
Well come on, whose commercial do you want it to be??
PepsiCo not allowing the truck drivers to be interviewed is telling
You just don’t have random staff bark into a camera, that could be catastrophic PR.
That's every company, even the military.
They can't..
free speech
@@officialflorintya especially for Tesla 🤣
I am a truck driver. We have many trucks that carry far more weight than 80,000 pounds. You solve the weight problem by adding more axles and more wheels to carry the extra weight. The largest cost is the cost of fuel. Elon Musk claims that the Tesla Semi can go 500 miles fully loaded on 1000 kilowatt hours of electricity. The wholesale cost of electricity is currently 7 cents per kilowatt hour. That is a cost of $70 to go 500 miles, fully loaded at 80,000 pounds. Currently I pay over $300 for diesel fuel to go the same distance. That is a significant fuel cost saving. That is what is important to truck drivers. That fuel cost saving makes the Tesla Semi very attractive if the purchase price is only $180,000. I paid $150,000 for my diesel truck. For the fuel cost savings that Elon Musk has promised, I will be delighted to pay $180,000 for the Tesla truck.
Yeah but fixing an electric semi will cost wayyy more than diesel .
what gives you that impression?
@@El_Funky_Habibi Alot less to fix...
“The longest delayed product in Teslas history!”
Meanwhile all the roadster preorder customers 👀
the longest delayed product in Teslas history, so far.
To CNBC every Tesla product is vapourware until they release it and start selling in high volume.
More people are waiting for the cybertruck than roadster
@@NeutronStream That's sort of fair for CNBC to do, though. Every Tesla product does seem to spend about 5 years as vaporware, before finally hitting the market. They announce their stuff WAYYYYY too early.
They said one of the not the
As a driver myself, what we say, generally is how it is. You'll know right away if it's all hype and impractical or the other way around--where it's actually a decent piece of equipment. Management can upsell you something so much, but if a driver hates or loves it, you'll know it just by talking to them. We're the ones that have to spend all day driving them and operating them, not the desk jockeys. Definitely missed opportunity there
You will be replaced by trucks driving themselves Sion
@@Adelrawas1 how else can I watch netflix while driving?
You might like the Tesla semi. First of all it is smooth, quiet and comfortable. It has more than three times the torque of a diesel, so it can go full speed, even accelerate, uphill. You usually don't have to hit the brakes downhill, because it uses powerful regenerative braking to recharge the batteries downhill. No more overheated brakes. No more break-neck runs downhill and trying to navigate around slow-pokes uphill to use some of that downhill speed.
@@jimroth7927 would be really nice to hear from someone who actually uses their Tesla Truck in their daily jobs. Too bad PepsiCo did not let CNBC interview them.
@@jimroth7927 it's about business a Tesla weighs almost twice that of a diesel truck....with elon's 500 mile range ... they'll weigh so much that you can't carry much cargo anyways.....they have more power and torque?? Buddy .....their battery weighs more than a diesel truck itself.....means less space for cargo..... trucking is a business where money is everything and is determined by time... who'd want to wait for 1 hour to charge? Instead of just plugin diesel stations and 15min then u r off
Not to mention the amount of Teslas spontaneous combust is a huge safety threat .....
Frito lay is the perfect company to have a Tesla semi, their cargo is super light.
You apparently missed the statement at 4:34 that they also take 45,000 lb. loads of Pepsi 300 to 400 miles, from plant to distributor warehouse. >22 tons is not what I'd call "super light".
Lol, it's mostly air in the bags anyways.
@@aaron___6014 Yes, lightweight, cubed out loads of snacks still need to be moved from the plant to a warehouse. The good news is that when lightly loaded with 5,000 lbs. of snacks, the range goes all the way up to 680 miles, and fuel cost per mile goes down another 25%.
Thank you for bringing this up, to highlight yet another advantage the Tesla Semi has over diesel semis.
@@BigBen621Unfortunately the world is built from steel and concrete not Fritos.
@@csabo1725 So true, and thank you for pointing this out! And here's a video of a Tesla Semi towing a flatbed trailer carrying exactly that-42,900 lbs. of steel and concrete traffic barriers-accelerating rapidly up a steep grade on Donner Pass, passing a diesel semi as if it were standing still: czcams.com/users/liveLtOqU2o81iI?feature=share&t=985
Just like diesel semis, Tesla Semis will often tow loads of light materials that are cubed out-that is, limited by volume, not weight-because that's the load that needs to be delivered. But they are also capable of towing 22 tons in loads that are weighed out, which is not substantially less than what a diesel semi can tow.
I want to give a shout out to Pepsi for using raised solar panels above their parking lot. Yes! We need to see those EVERYWHERE! Put parking sprawl to work. @6:14
True that. Also the employees cars get to sit in the shade of the panels rather than cook unprotected.
I'm not a driver, but I know that in Canada drivers have government regulated daily driving time limits of 10-14 hours per day depending on specific rules you are running under. So taking a 1hr meal break while recharging may not be a problem. Assuming you can find an open charger when you need it.
There are some pretty depressing "road trip" videos by car owners who have to take road trips in small bites as they are guided, and mis-guided, in a wandering route between known charging stations. Where they may encounter broken chargers or wait lines.
All of this has been alleviated from Tesla. Tesla supercharger networks are highly reliable and show the driver how long they have to charge and where, and where is the next charger. It's called the Tesla route planner.
Yep the non operating and backed up charging stations. and longer charging times at them for non Tesla run chargers. The car owners have the same problem. No one mentions the poor cold weather mileage, and the resources it takes to manufacture the vehicles and the batteries which by the way use components that can not be manufactured in the USA due to environmental and safety regulations (all are Chinese owned company's by the way). and also the resources and pollution that's produced to supply the electricity to charge the vehicles!
@@Smellindamix Yes, that is what I've read. The Tesla supercharger network is the largest and best kept. BUT, it naturally focuses on the larger concentrations of people, naturally. The meandering part of my comment came from a story of the experiences of a person travelling the tesla charger network cross country, away from population centers. His was the tale of having to meander from one town to the next, picking up partial charges because it was too far between to skip chargers.
Yes, the story(ies) I read about problems with chargers were about other networks.
"I'm not a driver, but.." should've, could've stopped right there.. opinions - without facts, feelings or ACTUAL experience - are same as farts only not as offensive.
@@tayl0r612 Good to know. Thanks for your update.
Some of these experts are talking out of their butts. Legacy truck companies "know what the customer wants" is identical to legacy car companies "knowing what the customer wants". That theory is dead now. The big challenge is building enough trucks. There's a huge market of companies like Pepsi with fixed routes and self-operated fleets. These fleets also tend to have the highest utilization in urban & suburban areas. This market itself is enough for Tesla (and others) to saturate for several years before targeting true ultra-long haul cross country. A great product, great efficiency and a huge hurdle finally cleared by Tesla (delays).
Also the plus point of Tesla is it's self driving feature. Though not ready, but it's getting better with each update
@@danko5866 And it doesn't need to be perfect. Something like 42,000 people were killed in vehicle accidents in the USA in 2021. People still drive like monkeys and nobody cares. But if a self-driving Tesla is at fault for even 1 (one) fatality, it makes the national evening news. This is complete road apples, and has to stop.
Your absolutely right about legacy car companies “knowing what customers want”. Ford got rid of all cars in their fleet. Result: Record Honda and Toyota sales with millennials.
@@danko5866 I'm not sure how big of an advantage that is, considering that there are much better level 2 systems out there and mercedes have now even been greenlighted to start level 3 trials in specific areas. Similarly, the company even made the statement that the current fsd system is expected to remain level 2 even when it's "complete." I think tesla kinda shot itself in the foot selling a hugely expensive, buggy mess to make a mess out on real live roads, whereas other companies have been more conservative and developed systems that actually do what they promise consistently.
@@TeeFunkable You might want to read up on the Mercedes thing. Only works on specific routes in one state, in specific weather, with a lead car 100m ahead, won't work on a banked freeway, and only works at less than 40mph. In addition the driver can "take their eyes offs the road" but must still be paying attention to take over at any time. It's more of a "technically" level 3 system just to be able to claim that they did it first, which is disappointing to see.
Pepsi's experience in the next 1-2 years will greatly determine the early adoption of the Tesla Semi by other companies with similar requirements. If Pepsi exercises their option to take the remainder of the 100 units, that will be an affirming sign to other potential owners.
Right, if it can handle all the Liquid Weight it should be able to handle anything.
@@BeatBox-nu4oi Literally no authoritative voice is asserting that the Tesla Semi is going to garner the domestic semi-truck market in any foreseeable future. Pepsi has over 11,000 tractors. Pepsi is simply evaluating the Tesla Semi will give them a financial advantage over the semi-trucks in current fleet. If Pepsi expands their fleet of Tesla Semis, others with similar requirements will take note and act accordingly.
PEPSI WILL ORDER THOUSANDS OF THEM I KNOW IT@@douglas-hughes
@@douglas-hughesMostly because electric just simply doesn't have the range. It's probable that we will see hydrogen powered trucks or at least hybrid systems before we see electric. With that in mind, It would be nice if Tesla or anyone really can finally succeed in reducing the cost and emissions of trucking.
@@fastestdino2 Well, as the man himself said, these are specifically for medium haul, mostly at intra-state level. These can’t dethrone the long haul market yet. That needs alternative fuels, as batteries have very low energy density.
Wouldn’t let people who drive them speak 🗣️
😂😂😂 tells you everything about the situation
450 miles sounds impressive for any EV let alone a big truck.
Not for a truck. These can only be used for short hauls
450 miles is nothing in a big truck.
Those miles only represent a third of your shift.
This country is in trouble.
With drivers waiting for a charge at a truck stop, Grocers are going to be screaming for product.
Think the prices for substance is bad now? Just wait and see.
And watch the real truck drivers walk away from that electric turd.
Sure they may find some school taught worthless steering wheel holder but that wont last long when his family is looking at foreclosure or eviction due to lack of a decent paycheck.
The windmill bone yards wont be able to keep up to the demand when we go totally mother earth worshiping green totalitarian.
AGENDA 2030 is going to be really interesting.
450 miles sounds great, what about the 12hr wait for recharging?
@@ronnieg6358 It’s only 30min smh
@@chidorirasenganz I'm for this electrical age but there are some things to be concerned about. The availability of the chargers is becoming an issue (will be resolved once we get more stations) and reliability of the said stations. Personally think some of these trucks should be hybrid. In the off chance you aren't able to charge your truck, you can fill it up with gas.
Given that EV trucks are 0% of the market, even if they currently can't cover all use cases, there is still a huge market for these.
8:35 Wouldn't say EV trucks are 0% of the market - they even say in the video they also use BYD and Peterbilt electric trucks
@@MiningBlock Also eCanter. They've been rolling around as grocery trucks way before Tesla Semi was taken in by Frito Lays and Pepsi.
for hauling potato chips they sound great, around here they haul stone though....
@@rumls4drinkin Hauling stone isn't a problem. Roughly the same payload capacity as diesel semis.
@@anthonypelchat Frito trucks got 425 miles hauling chips, Pepsi trucks only got 100 miles on the same charge. The payload capacity and range is a huge difference.
I mean media come on, you used to say same kind of negative things when Tesla cars hitted roads..
I will look on positive things that they can actually deliver a truck..thts a good thing..
Just like all products things will improve over time..
I don’t drive anymore but still have my CDL and I’d love to drive one of these if they worked properly. A lot of old school truckers are stuck in their ways but I don’t see the problem if they become reliable.
They already hate it bc it’s not a long hood Pete or kw. Those kinds of drivers are what I hate most about this industry so far. Sure a cascadia or a Volvo might not look cool but I’m getting paid to drive not look cool. I personally would love to drive a Tesla semi just to see what it’s like.
The battery requirement for a semi is very heavy and reduces the load capacity to about 9 tons for a 80000 lbs truck.
I do drive still and I hope this fails….Sorry but I see the end game here. To remove the driver completely and throw 2.2 million people out of work
@@dant.3505
_The battery requirement for a semi is very heavy and reduces the load capacity to about 9 tons_
Actually about 22 tons, but who's counting?
@@BigBen621 the gross weight of the tractor of an electric EV is substantial compared to a diesel rig.
With a legal limit of 80000 lbs. The weight of the tractor will reduce what can legally be loaded. It doesn't leave much legal load.
Edit- the 22 tons you mention only leaves 36000 lbs for the empty weight of the rig. That's about right for a typical diesel rig. But a EV battery rig with acceptable range will be much heavier than a diesel rig. The empty weight of a EV truck is very heavy.
I drove a truck, professionally for 24 years. I stopped 2 years ago and have never regretted that decision.
I retired from trucking in 2019, the over regulation and the money grab from the local governments on BS safety inspections and fines put you at the mercy of the small towns looking for ways to take your money. This technology is pie in the sky for now.
good choice, drivers wont be needed any longer pretty soon
started trucking, expect in finland
@@reggveg no, this technology is operational right now
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl I have 40-plus years in the business and I'm telling you it won't work. The range is limited, and takes too long to recharge, plus the DOT would have to raise the weight limit from 80,000 pounds gross. We don't have the infrastructure to support charging stations. Believe me I wish it would work. In 40 to 50 years maybe but not now. Also, the electric bills for every American will skyrocket. The cost to transport will be astronomical.
"Their have been some reports that they can't handle the weight or the distance. " By WHO reported this there is only one customer at this time. Frito lay has not said this publicly. THEY ARE JUST MAKING THE STORY UP TO FIT THEIR NARRATIVE.
These pilot trucks are being used to tune the truck. We may see the production trucks release with 4680s.
@Glenn Beattie
Agreed.
There has been some "speculation" by uninformed individuals, starting from a base of..... Guesswork, with certain specifications proven to be completely wrong.
.
My opinion?
The battery is much lighter than some say (they based the weight on 18650 cells), the cab size and so weight is much lower and incorrect assumptions were made regarding the weight of the diesel drivetrain, which of course the Tesla doesn't carry. (Even the wheels and tyres are smaller/ lighter!)
My conclusion, it's well with 1000lbs difference.
Yes, there was a lot of pure guesswork, all of against Tesla in this video. Who was the Patagonia shirt guy? All others were identified in the video, but he wasn't and he was the guy literally lying his butt off.
@@rsfpost7501 Yeah, not to mention some of his completely specious reasoning. I loved his spiel about the other, more established truck manufacturers have some big advantage because they've been selling to companies for years.
As if to say that when Tesla brings out a superior, more economical product, the procurement managers at, for example, McDonald's or IKEA are going to say, "Gosh, I'd love to buy an electric semi truck from Tesla, but I don't know how I'd ever do it. I guess I'll call Mercedes and buy one of their trucks instead--even though it only has 60% of the range of the Tesla--because I already have their phone number in my contacts list."
If companies believe they can save money by buying a different product, they'll have no problem switching to a new supplier.
Source of these reports:
Social media comments from people who never even seen the Tesla semi in person or own a Tesla or EV. This is evident since there have been no actual reports and articles from any media, which is something that usually spreads like wild fire once one media source posts even a single negative headline without any real data to back it up.
A year later and still not in production. I think that answers the question in the title.
"Potato chips are made with a lot of air"
Glad we can all agree
I’m curious how they will charge them all with the incredibly overwhelmed California power grid.
its called solar ..
@@flodjod the grid itself the problem, not the energy being required to run it. all electricity is being run through larges wires and they are old and at capacity, john oliver made a good video on it
The power demand is bad from 12 noon to 8 PM night. 12 noon time can sometimes be filled with solar but night is when the grid may fail. Thus they cut power to heavy users like that like a low rate like car charging and AC users to keep hospitals and police stations running. Elon has also made these T battery banks for charge station to level out some of the surge demands. I think I see about 20 wall chargers good for 800,000 KW or one truck reserve.
Maybe they should have updated the power grid before adding all these power needs to begin with. Seems forced. California will just unrightfully shut people’s power off to accommodate. Solar isn’t going to fix anything either, especially when it’s cloudy and rainy, windy. People don’t understand that dust on the solar panels will drastically reduce its performance. Think it’s the key to all their problems when it clearly doesn’t work. Same with wind energy. I drive by the wind farms all the time in California and only see a few spinning ever. Too much maintenance, not enough support. Most are broken down. Waste of tax payer dollars. It’s all a scam.
Overall, less energy would be required. Using a EV power chain uses less joules of energy than a ICE powertrain would due to the losses of conversion, heat, transportation and transmission. But sure, the grid either needs to expand, or companies should invest in local energy storage and production (solar/wind, with batteries) to power their fleet. Anyway, its a long term investment, that gains them in the long run.
Historical note:
The steam locomotive industry was over a hundred years old when the diesel electrics were introduced in the 1950’s .
The three biggest steam locomotives companies merged to become Baldwin- Lima- Hamilton.
They and every other steam locomotives company went bankrupt!
All Locomotives are made by GE, EMD or a few small companies none of which ever built steam units.
Just a warning not a prediction….
That does not mean that in the current scenario, battery electric trucks are the ones that are going to win, I see hydrogen trucks as a more realistic solution, even though they don't seem so right now.
Insightful. Similar can happen. Tough as it seems the ICE engine makers are making steps to electrify their designs. So they may have learnt from history. We will see how much.
Diesel-electrics were introduced in the 1930s.
Niche product at first, mostly switchers, due to the lower power available early on.
They didn't get COMMON 'til the 1950s (World War II both hurt by distracting, and helped by pushing technology needed).
@@Cier433 problem with hydrogen is the lack of regenerative braking. This thing can improve energy efficiency a lot... Radically a lot. I think in future trucks and train's all will be with battery
@@andresouza2314 What are you talking about, hydrogen cell vehicles work with electric motors, the hydrogen cell only generates electricity, so it is not that different from a battery electric vehicle, only in the case of those that use a hydrogen cell, the battery it's much less so they would still have the option of making a regenerative system. Let's say you could make a hydrogen cell truck that needed only 10% of the battery capacity than if it were just batteries.
Using Fusion to cleanly generate electricity is the future so electric vehicles of all kinds will follow. Battery advancements will take care of mileage concerns. Ice vehicles will be used as collectibles…horses didn’t go away when they were replaced…they will still be a small part of our lives.
I drive a truck and would love to drive one. It will never replace an ICE truck but there are many applications that electric will work great if you ever figure out where you are going to get all that electricity.
Where EV semis will save the most of is maintenance and downtime due to maintenance.
One factor nobody considers is average speed.
The Tesla wil achieve, *then maintain* it's speed over a distance.
That could allow either a faster trip, or more rest time for the driver (and charge "splash and dash"! for the truck)
@@rogerstarkey5390 Also EV performance doesn't degrade at high altitude.
@@rogerstarkey5390 Faster acceleration requires more energy and these trucks absolutely do not have energy stores to spare.
@@zaidpatel8695 supercharger. like the helis that can go to everest.
It will save on fuel costs big time, electricity is so much cheaper than diesel fuel. On a cost per mile basis you can't beat an EV, this is the underlying reason ICE is going to die real quick, give it 10-15 yrs.
If Kenworth, Peterbilt, International are already building EV tractors, this isn't "the future" this is right now.
What is today if yesterday is tomorrow SpongeBob? And in all seriousness this is more about a purpose built EV platform and infrastructure. The brands you’ve listed make ev tractors based on internal combustion engine design which significantly limits their capability. They also don’t have or make fast charging infrastructure for this scale of vehicle.
Evs won’t replace diesel engines itself still has an advantage especially with very heavy specialized loads
@@banme2784 The EV is nothing, it's the autonomous driven vehicles that are going to really improve our lives. Imagine no more traffic lights, no speed limits, and roads that don't have to flow in any particular direction! The vehicles will be networked and roll their own "air traffic control" without our intervention. No humans driving means no liability insurance, no traffic cops, no DUI laws. You could tell your truck to take a certain route to a destination and to wake you up half an hour before you arrive, then take a nap. It could even go there without you, maybe drop you off at the lake and pick you up on the way back home. ALL of this will happen, and we can't stop it. Kids today aren't even interested in cars, a lot of them aren't even getting licenses. it's all computers now.
They wont last
@@josephastier7421 while that may sound legitimate, that’s not going to happen. Not in anybody generation that is breathing air as type this as I should say. People are not going to give up their right to drive. Motorcyclist dang sure are not going to give up their right to ride. Bicyclists are not going anywhere. It’s going to need to be all autonomous or none or specific lanes for autonomous commercial vehicles. Every single vehicle on the road being autonomous could be a good thing or could be a very severe bad thing. I don’t see no in between honestly.
I have personally wrapped over 500 frito lay box trucks. This is awesome to watch
as a driver and in the game for 23 years now , i can tell you that the guys sitting in a office chair and a desk will never know a truck drivers day to day workflow they can assume a lot of things just by looking but never ever ever will they nail it because they are not actually hands on. now said that i can see this truck helping us alot because this is not an overnight cabin , so its 1 day pick up and drop off truck i really like that i dont do overnighters in my diesel truck because i dont like them but this truck fits perfectly to mee if i could buy one to start my own fleet i will do ot no questions ask
At about 10:30:
I know what fleet buyers want: Lowest Total Cost of Ownership.
How hard was that?
If Tesla offers that, they'll sell a lot of trucks.
Seems to me without doing any calculations, that Tesla Semi is going to be much less to operate. Cost per mile is going to be much cheaper than diesel. Also much less maintenance on the truck once any kinks, are worked out. I’m guessing the actual nos. are going to quickly make diesels a thing of the past, not hard to project. The mass arrival of 4680 batteries is also going to be very significant.
Love this channel, these are the types of mini documentaries I like
i think it’s low key one of the best YT channels for these kind of short form docs
@@Mark__ The best. By far. They're doing amazing work!
Yeah, I second that. Also, great pic and name. :D
@@ThompterSHunson @Mark Underscore Bloomberg Quicktake is making great ones, too
@@jupiterjones3789 oh awesome, thanks! Oddly I haven’t been reco’d the Bloomberg one despite watching other Bloomberg channels.
I’ve seen a few Nikola 18 wheelers. It was wild hearing nothing but fans running but no engine noise. Even crazier was watching the fully loaded 18 wheeler pull off like a car.
Could you ask the drivers how many parts are made by GM versus Nikola?
Pretty sure they signed an NDA anyways...
@@johntheux9238GM doesn’t supply any parts for Nikola’s trucks
So when everything becomes “Electric powered” will California still have brown outs during the summer? At this point they are having trouble keeping peoples homes cooled let alone everyone on the road being dependent on electric ⚡️ energy as well. What are they doing to increase the electrical grid before the massive increase in demand? Why didn’t CNBC interview a single Tesla SemiTruck driver to ask their opinions?
I'm a trucker, I'd like to drive one, but 650 miles is a regular day for me so the mileage doesn't work. I also team drive with my son so until they can charge these things in less than an hour it wouldn't work for us. But keep it up. I'm definitely not anti-electric, I'm just against the group who thinks this is all you can own and still love this planet!
You’d rather stop more ok makes sense
@Joe Gaston not sure what you mean but I think they're cool. My son and I drive from Durham NC to just outside Dallas TX twice a week, takes us about 19 hours each way, little over a thousand miles. We get to one end or the other, load up, then head the other direction, Tuesday NC, Wednesday TX, Thursday NC, and so on. The electric trucks just can't do that yet, not in the time frame we need, but I'm sure they're working on it ...
Mark, I was pleasantly surprised seeing your comment here. No agenda, just the facts (about the trucking). It’s new tech and they will take the easy market share first. It will be interesting to see what new developments accelerate the adoption.
As a truck driver of over 30 years . I can’t wait to drive an electric truck . I hope my company buy Tesla trucks .
I an see why automatics are much easier and a lot less shifting involved.
You better hope that they don't get the self driving perfected before you retire, otherwise you will be out of a job
I've got a class A and used to work for the power company. I've driven pretty much everything but semi's even some smaller cranes. I'll tell you when we went to those electronic push button automatics it was way better and much easier to learn than the old GM's i started out on with the 6 speed split shift transmissions about 25 years ago. Not just learning but way less tiring than shifting all the time too.
They are also working to replace drivers electric makes that easier
After 30 years of driving this dude is hoping he’ll get something from his company 😂
1:54 The issue of the trucks breaking down was due to a minor software issue. It's totally normal for brand new products to have a few issues.
Care to explain the entire Tesla lineup then? They are always on the bottom for reliability along with other EV's. There's also some other issues but that's a lot more than I feel like typing.
@@loganmatthias5038 Yes, The tesla car fleet is notorious for reliability issues, generally surrounding build quality, but the issues with the semi were software related and could be fixed by a software upgrade. Issues are common in brand new products.
It’s only going to get better!
Good work PepsiCo and Tesla!
What caught my attention was the 1 seat in the middle for the driver. With no rear view mirror due to it being a Semi, I can definitely see the benefits.
Almost like it uses cameras or something...
@@miguellopez3392 Almost like every semi cant see behind them when towing…. What’s your point?
@@stephenfrench5242 it has cameras for rear view mirrors that display on the center screen.
Can we have a Tesla robot of Pepsiman that runs into walls after he gives you cans of Pepsi?
Not sure what the commentator meant about the power of a diesel vs electric on a weight basis, and compromises. AFAIK, diesel wins on range but suffers on both low-end torque and maximum acceleration and speed.
The only "range" an Electric Semi needs is "more than the driver"
Currently, ONE Electric Semi achieves that.
(Starts with "T", ends with "esla")
I assume the commentator has never traveled in an electric train.
I'm not sure maximum acceleration and speed are at the top of a trucking company's wish list.
I guess they meant sustaining that weight over a longer range. Diesel truck gives you 1400 miles of range on a full tank of gas while electric only gives you 400 miles of range on a single charge. Still a long way to go. Plus, an hour to charge up and get close to 350 miles of range from a substation versus 15 minutes to fill a diesel truck and get 1400 miles of range. Just Ridiculous.
Add in hill climb and descent and see if a diesel truck gets 1400 miles. As long as the battery outlasts the driver your critique is ridiculous... unless you are promoting a trucker who has ben awake for 21 hours.
The one speaker told viewers that diesel trucks produce more power…going with Tesla’s numbers vs. What diesel truck OEMs show as their own, is a stark contrast to what was pushed here. Tesla’s touted power is substantially higher.
From the context I guess what he me actually meant was die _energy_ density of diesel fuel vs. that of batteries.
People mix up power and energy all the time :-/
Power means NOTHING in a truck. Accelerating is meaningless.
You have been drinking the Koolaid.
@@Chris.Davies However, _torque_ does count for a truck. And that's where an electric drivetrain really shines.
I happening to see a Tesla Semi in Stockton, Ca on highway 99 this past week.
Just changing those short white trucks to electric is huge because they are constantly driving around moving trailers, probably even better on maintenance because they go through a lot of stop and go movements. Curious what the backup redundancies are if electric power is lost though, that could destroy operations if there is none
I do see a benefit of having the local delivery and port vehicles being EV for the sole fact of not emitting all of the exhaust fumes into the air. I hope it works. I do not see EV vehicles being used for cross country shipments. At least not for a long while.
What will be needed for that to work?
@@litshackblink I’m an over-the-road driver (3000+ miles a week) and I agree it’s going to take a long while. They touch on it at 11:00. The infrastructure required is HUGE. On par with the building of the railroad and national highway system.
you make your own parking out there a lot, which is fine sometimes. But its only really ok bc you are never really stranded if you can get fuel. I imagine the first few ev's that roll out charging will be baked into the route. But sometimes when you are just out there, you don't want to stop your day for several hours just to charge.
Hyliion Hypertruck ERX has 1000+ mile range runs on waste and Net Carbon Negative. Easy Win
@@litshackblink Green Electric Trains
15:00 "Given the total costs of operation is significantly more beneficial than for ICE vehicles. I'd say by the end of the decade at least 50% of the commercial fleets will be electrified." I think this is the critical statement. Semi Trucks have such regular and costly maintenance and repairs it's not going to take very long for owners/operators to see the clear benefit of EVs. (The Tejon Pass 4414' on the Modesto to Southern California I - 5 route. Instead of burning fuel going up (possibly overheating) and then burning expensive brakes going back down. The Tesla Semi on the descent regains almost all the energy used climbing. It's as though the mountains were not even there.)
And the final word, "We're not there yet." When was that last said about the electric car? Something else amazing about Musk is not just that he promises and then delivers, but that he gets his idea and product across. Thomas Kuhn in the Progress of Scientific Revolutions made a convincing case that new science is never accepted until the old guard dies or retires - doesn't matter how powerfully the case is made. Within a year or two of the introduction of the Model 3 everything changed. Sure many OEM vehicle company CEOs were replaced -- but not by EV supporters. What has changed is that every OEM is now scrambling as quickly as they can to electrify their vehicle lines. (And the U.S. tax credit which gives hybrids the same status as BatteryEV, I don't think has slowed this transition.)
And good one CNBC. I've been critical of a lot that you do. This report is top notch, well researched.
“It’s as though the mountains aren’t even there” LOL I guess you didn’t do well in physics class AT ALL, did you?
@@Restorationshopyt Actually you’re the one who didn’t pay attention in physics class. Yes, it takes more power to go up the mountain, but the truck literally recaptures almost all of that power. When you go up the mountain and then back down, the net battery drain is almost identical to what it would be if the mountain weren’t there. So yes, it literally is as if the mountain isn’t there.
Yes, a good video overall, though they didn’t hit back on the critics as much as I think they should have. The claimed 500 mile range takes the battery down to 0, which is stupid, so a 425 mile route is totally expected. The guy also claimed that diesel trucks put out more power for their weight. Ok, but the Tesla semi puts out sooooo much more power overall. And all the energy it outs into getting that mass moving can be recovered when you brake.
@@timwildauer5063 You're dreaming.
Agreed with everything up till "This report is top notch, well researched". Nope, they filled it with FUD
What makes me happy is they the steering wheel is in the center.
I’m a driver myself would love for them too actually have drivers drive them for a year and get honest feedback
This was an excellent report, thank you for all the balanced and factual information. I agree with Sumanth Aluri, (comment below from 8 days ago) it would have been good to include driver comments in the report.
I found it odd that the one guy said EV's aren't as powerful as diesel. Diesel electric trains exist because electric motors are more powerful than diesel.
I wonder why there aren't diesel electric hybrid trucks.
@@ross_ulbright7779 cost and weight I imagine.
@@ross_ulbright7779 Prius style diesel electric hybrid vehicles exist, but mainly in shorter distance vehicles where there’s a lot of start/stop going on since the electric motor kicks in from a stop and the diesel kicks in once up to speed. Long haul vehicles tend to be at highway speeds a high % of the time so, they’d mainly be using the diesel motor. Even in the diesel electric trains, the goal is not economy nor environmental. It’s literally because a diesel motor just isn’t powerful enough to get the train moving.
That guy has ignored fact. TeSemi tri-motors produce > 1,800 horsepower.
We been running electric concrete trucks for years in Sweden, and they work better than expected
1 hour to charge 400ish miles is kinda nuts
If they couldn’t interview the drivers that should tell you everything Lmfaoooo
My guess is the drivers don't like all the tracking tech, cameras, ect inside the vehicle. You may have also noticed it only has one seat. How will they pick up a prostitute at a truck stop in that?
its cnbs, what do you expect?
This truck is basically an advanced development vehicle, which Tesla will refine over this year. by next year, it will be available widely.
Of course not. There is no infrastructure for EV trucks yet. These are only going to be used for local runs. Otr EV trucks will take a while
Pepsi has confirmed 36 semi’s! Working there way to 100, explains “pilot production”
gotta start somewhere! time to charge em all with solar 😅
@@mho... I own a very large solar company. The size of the array required to supply the 800+kW peak demand of this battery is absolutely monstrous. Solar can slowly help fill a battery that powers this but in absolutely no way is it feasible to charge a truck off solar
@@mattbrew11 they claim that they have 2mv of solar and 2.7 mv h of storage in that fritolay facility - is it enough to achieve anything? Or they mostly just use all this for "being green" pr ?
@@seowebua those numbers seem misaligned but yeah you could charge the trucks off it.
@@mattbrew11 While you could charge directly from solar, it would be best to charge a stationary pack like the Tesla Megapacks or other's versions and then discharge when needed. A single megapack could cover more than 4 full charges when fully charged, though normally 6-8 typical charges. And that's when the sun is shining and recharging it. You have to deal with some efficiency losses, but it's far better overall.
The semis should not have autonomous driving included due to the fact of the danger having an 80,000 pound semi driving down the highway or road with nobody at the controls except someone sleeping behind the wheel.
It'll need advanced notice to all cities exactly when it will arrive so nobody gets killed when it drives through red lights at 80 mph because of a software glitch.
I feel like some of this segment was recorded before first delivery and actual real world data of the Tesla semi. It's on the road now. And it works.
Yes, it works. But I was expecting to see updated specs, real world results, and prices, once the semis were delivered. I get the impression that everyone is under an NDA, and this isn’t an actual product yet.
@@kevinbailey8827 - What do you mean by 'actual product yet'? Production has already started but at slow rate since they just started in past month or two. So far only about 39 have been made for Pepsi on their 100 Semi order. Giga factory Nevada is being expanded for Semi and 4860 battery production.
@@Chainyanker007 I mean they’re getting ready to produce it, but these are still essentially prototypes. They aren’t ready yet to put them out for independent reviews and head to head comparisons with their competitors. They wouldn’t even allow interviews with the drivers.
@@kevinbailey8827 - No, they are not ‘getting ready to produce it’ they are already in production, the Semis are not prototypes. Production speed is gradually ramping up as is true for all new models, Teslas included.
@@Chainyanker007 Months after the official production of the Model 3, Tesla was still building parts of it by hand, and the finished product was only being delivered to employees who weren’t allowed to talk freely about their cars.
Officially, the Semi is in production. I agree. I just think the units delivered so far are missing some features that are supposedly to be in the production version. If so, they are defective. Or prototypes.
The Tesla Semi is the best that could have happen to the trucking industry on low and midrange. Not yet there on long range, but time will work in favor of EVs.
So far best EV Semi on the street by far.
That $180,000 is about the same price as a brand-new JDM Semi trucks in Japan like Isuzu, Fuso & Hino Profia, just a 4x2 semi truck with around 420-480hp.
Power on this truck is around 1000-1500HP equivalent
To the average person who has zero transport industry background this sounds like a great plan! To any long distance truck driver or anyone who has transport experience, this is ridiculous. In Canada especially because the weight restrictions are higher and winter temps are lower which kills batteries. Also the American truck stops often have capacity for 100 or more trucks and there's absolutely no chance that many trucks can be charging overnight. Oh and to keep the sleeping drivers warm in winter and cool in summer while their trucks use small diesel heaters or run the big diesel engine which is actually pretty efficient while idling. Sorry folks, there's a 0% chance of all transport trucks EVER being electric. But if they outlaw diesels, many people won't be getting the stuff they need.
If the total cost of ownership is so good, why is the California government paying 50% for Pepsi to purchase these trucks? Something doesn't seem right here.
Why is oil subsidised?
Because california is trying to reach zero emissions faster than any other state. By funding these new vehicles they ensure the economics go from making sense to obvious.
@@ogzombieblunt4626 I suspect that Pepsi was going to buy these vehicles regardless of government funding. The promotional value alone would likely be worth the cost. Having a government pay 50% of it while going deeper into debt comes across as a bit corrupt to me.
@@WildernessExcursions
True, but other companies might be more conservative and need a kick in the pocket books. I do agree that incentives for evs aren't needed for them to make economic sense now, cali is good at throwing money at problems and ignoring the outcome of that spent money.
The into made me crave Cheetos. Good marketing Frito Lay... Good marketing..
It was MF DOOM doing from the shadows of his retirement
"We weren't allowed to interview the drivers."
... yeah, that really makes all this PR talk 100% trustworthy.
Many people seem to forget that there's a considerable lack of overlap between Tesla fans and truck drivers.
Tesla owner here: Price volatility still exist for electric car. If you have a Tesla you would see that certain chargers charge more and the price would also differ at different times (night/morning or even night/morning/afternoon). I still like the car but there's more to it, its not all a dream. Be wary of absolutist, shades of gray exist in everything.
I think we can make the case that we are in early days for EVs in general. The narrative can change based on who ends up crafting it. We need to support and encourage companies who drive the best case.
Looking for improvement not perfection dude 😮
Going thru the comments, come back in two decades when these are purchased on a large scale.
"we'll get to that down the road" Tesla's favorite line of all time.
Came for the trigger comment. Comment section did not disappoint.
There might be a lot of things wrong at the moment with the Semi and that is expected from a first gen product.. But those definitely look to be issued that are addressable.. Because once the kinks are ironed out, it is definitely a solid product and will sell in volumes..
just like what tesla bros say about “full self driving” lol
No it won’t. Lithium isn’t sustainable. The truck is a fraud and will fail immediately.
@@Dirtytanker l
What about Al air batteries
And Hydrogen vehicle??
"That is expected from a first gen product".
Tesla didn't invent the Semi, so while it might be *their* first gen, it's not a first gen Semi, which means that it needs to stand on its own two feet immediately. If an auto manufacturer puts out a new product in an established product segment, the performance of their product should be judged against the performance of every other vehicle in that segment.
The key takeway here isn't "Tesla has released a future solid product", it's "Tesla has released an underwhelming product that fails to deliver on the hype that Tesla itself set for it."
@@5lanediver
The Tesla trucks looks so good 👍
You can mould plastic into any shape you like. Does that make it a better truck?
@@ronnieg6358 if it reduces coefficient of drag, yes it really does.
@@SuperCatbert - Make a typical diesel semi look outdated, which it will soon be if not already.
@@ronnieg6358 yes. forgetting about the drag of the vehicle, the shape can have a drastic effect on efficiency and range
Those trucks look amazing
well now I know why it costs me over $3 for a a small bag of 10% chips and 90% air
Everything you need to know about corporations is clear as day when they said they were not allowing interviews with the drivers.
i think it was the right choice and should be allowed at a later stage, not at the start, it would just spread misinformation.
this is the start and it will be like every other start covered in hiccups until it runs perfect like electric cars nowadays.
@John Smith
Can't possibly reveal that "misinformation" aka inconvenient truths.
They said “other OEMs have advantages over Tesla” and that they’re “better positioned today than Tesla is…” right after saying that other OEMs still can’t get to 300 miles of range. 😂😂😂
One of them was 250 miles!
@@geekimusprime Against 400 miles. And this is all from trash talking CNBC.
Correct, TESLA semi is the ONLY BEV long range class 8 Truck w/ 82k Gross & 535+ mile range.
Please did you even watched the video!? Those other trucks dont have 1MWh Batteries like tesla inform yourself very well!
@@markplott4820 yeah the only truck with the biggest battery troll!
Fun fact: the energy to charge those e-trucks comes from fossil fuels 😁
*a little of* _the energy to charge those e-trucks comes from fossil fuels_
*FIFY.* These e-trucks are mostly charged from the California grid, which is only 40% supplied by fossil fuels. Further, because electric vehicles use to much less total energy than ICE vehicles, changing from an ICE vehicle to a BEV reduces overall emissions, including powerplant emissions, by 89%, per the U.S. Department of Energy.
It’s obvious why they didn’t allow feedback from the drivers. Drivers have already said in other instances they don’t like them compared to traditional diesel trucks. They only show you the upside
There are interviews just not by MSM, their only real complaint is mirrors and difficulties finding charging.
Fun fact: those battery Peterbilts are actually rebadged DAF trucks.
It’s not a DAF truck. All the powertrain was developed, fabricated and installed in the US. Although I understand your confusion, as the cab is similar to the one of the DAF LF truck. It’s not a rebadge.
FUN FACT - all the other , so called Compedators ALL have shorter range Trucks , that are SLOWER, and can haul LESS cargo.
@@markplott4820 Stop with the Tesla propaganda & Trolling its tiresome already....
@@michaelsamuel9917
Not propaganda if true.
The arrival of the freaking *Tesla* semi tractor was bound to upset people. They try to FUD the technology in some pretty funny ways, when the fact is that disruptive technologies frighten a certain type of person.
Whether you like Tesla/electric vehicles or not, these things look beautiful.
On me!! 😂
I can guarantee if you found someone that didn’t know those trucks were in mass production they would buy it as a 2 million dollar art piece and stick it in a studio.
Agreed, have you ever seen a slicker semi???
Yes, they're also really useless for trucks. You can't hand paperwork out the window, you drag dirt all over the cabin because the door is behind the seat and you can't pass other trucks safely because you have to pull into the middle of the oncoming lane before you can see past the truck in front of you. A center seating position may be cool, but it's anything but practical and that's probably why they didn't let the drivers talk for interviews. I seriously doubt truckers will like the odd seating and door arrangement.
@@uweschroeder A truck shouldn't pass using the oncoming lane regardless. Anyone doing that is putting people in massive danger and should not be driving while risking other peoples lives.
@@SyntheticSpy People shouldn't speed, people shouldn't use their phones while driving etc. etc. There is a big difference between what should be done or is safe and what is done. Fact remains, the driver position in a Tesla semi is completely useless. The driver can't even hand down paperwork at a gate.
What's a driver supposed to do when he needs to go around a i.e. broken truck sitting in your lane? Wait until someone tows it because he can't see anything?
You're also basing your opinion on American driving. Visit other countries - trucks very well pass other trucks on single lane roads. Nobody has time to go 25 for 50 miles. But then, the Tesla semi seems to be purpose built solely for the American trucking market. Nobody in Europe or South America will ever buy one. It's too big and again, the center seating position makes driving it unsafe on anything but the wide roads we have in the US.
The Tesla Semi is a full generation ahead of the incumbent vendors in battery technology. They are already using 1000V batteries everyone else is using 400-500V systems. This means a Tesla Srmi can charge 2X as fast. These truck chargers cost a for so if I can charge twice as fast and spend half as much on chargers "that's a good thing". All the incumbent vendors are great companies they will get there.
Lol, tell me again you've no idea how electricity works 😂
Think we need to be leveraging more efficient freight trains for cross-country shipment then shift the trucks to being primarily short-haul from those nodes.
5 yrs is not bad. Impressive really. Starting from 0 in an unfamiliar industry, 5 yrs is impressive. Now to work out the quirks operationally and production-wise and then, in Tesla style, fly away. Should be interesting to see how they work this out and the market share they grab.
A LIGHTER BATTERY pack is crucial. Hopefully, that will be eng'd by someone soon, otherwise, go for natural gas.
I am not an engineer, but these trucks need a heavy load cantered around the front.
Tesla fanboy?
By Tesla Style do you mean leaving the quirks and letting customers deal with it, like they do with their cars?
@@michaellivingston6768 Tesla style in this context means a production system of continuous improvement. Every year hundreds of small and large changes are done to the cars being built. I'm guessing they'll do the same for the semis.
@@truthalonetriumphs6572dude said if Tesla can’t meet their demands then go for natural gas.
Read better next time
The fact that they didn't let them talk to the drivers says a lot. I wouldn't say that was a good sign.
Nah that's just CNBC
I agree, I wonder if Tesla might have required something like a NDA
Yeah, I was thinking the same thing.. HUGE red flag!
@@sergios4240 I would say 100% chance.
@@Zigest - Thank you for taking the time out of your busy CEO day for that gem! : )
Love the sunbelt rentals Diesel generators in the background...
Most distribution cost a lot of money in gasoline. Making everything electric naturally lowers the cost. Besides making everything easier
If trucking company's and other truck manufactures really new what drivers wanted and needed they would not have so much trouble getting and keeping drivers. So much for the "Big Dogs"!
It’s a first run of semi-production. Of course they are going to test them, fix a bunch of things and improve.
The only thing that matter is the speed of improvement.
They show they are able to do the fastest vehicle (model S plaid) and one of the most challenging: semi.
You more than likely know bout this more than I do but I was wondering what happened to the Tesla truck? 🛻 are the still gonna release?
@@drodriguez3935 Yes. By the end of this year for sure.
@@drodriguez3935 They did in november 2023
The tesla semis sitting in 120 traffic: 👁️👄👁️
We need more power plants, a lot more charging stations, more frequent highway repaving. All of above need to be discussed before we are asking truck industries to change to electric trucks. Are current lithium batteries production and disposal carbon neutral?
_Are current lithium batteries production and disposal carbon neutral?_
No, they're not. But they achieve lifetime carbon neutrality within about the first year of operation.
As a long haul truck driver I think the one thing no one is talking about this is weather, I live in Canada but I do routes from Canada to Texas, right now its anywhere from -10c to +2c and when I arrive in Texas its +15c to +20c that change in weather, mostly cold weather can have a big affect on charging and use of batteries. In the winter my buddies electric car's range is cut in half. So I could be 100% wrong but your telling me in the winter that could add an extra 2 to 3 days on a trip I do in 5 that's a lot of wasted time that I could be out making money. For example if your going off of the 500 miles, its roughly 260 miles to the USA border from where I start my day a 4 and a half hour drive, I couldn't even do that in one day where in my normal work truck I would be at the Illinois border which is an 10 and half hour drive and still have enough fuel to go another 600 miles before fueling. Electric trucks are great for local LTL stuff like Frito driving around in the warm weather but throw the same truck up here in Canada it wouldn't last a winter. Again I'm just a truck driver and saying what I see on the road, electric will never work for OTR trucking.
Never say never
Tesla's Octovalve tech has shown that efficiently controlling battery temp reduces the effects of cold battery losses dramatically.
There are ways to mitigate the problem, but it will take a lot more time to be viable up north. So i think you are right.
I wondered about this. While I have an EV (in addition to an ICE car), I live in Southern California. I never deal with range depletion due to low temperatures but hear about this in other states. Should be interesting to see.
While yes, with today's technology it doesn't make financial sense to have electric vehicles in Canada, I would argue that with the technology of 10 years ago it didn't make financial sense to have electric cars period. There are many ways to solve the cold weather issue that electric vehicles have, and saying it will never work is very short-sighted IMO.
Why wouldn't they let them interview the drivers? I mean, their feedback should be priority at this moment.
Tesla will pull back the curtain when the truck enters production. These are pre production units, I am sure it is upgrading the truck to make it more robust.
Private sector and the government need to heavily invest in charging stations along the interstate highways. If 1% vehicle causes 20% of emissions, this will be a quick win. This is a classic example of 80-20 pareto rule
80% of electricity in the US comes from fossil fuels...
As a former driver, one thing I've noticed is that this video and the majority of the comments fail to understand how inefficient this truck is. The US department of transportation mandates that trucks on the road weigh no more 80000 pounds. The average diesel truck with no cargo and a full tank of diesel weighs about 40000 pounds. Therefore, it is able to carry about 40000 pounds of cargo. This is called the carrying capacity or the load capacity of the truck and is perhaps the most important feature of a truck that trucking companies care about. When Elon Musk introduced the Semi, he refused to say how much the truck weighed and how much is able to carry because he knows that the load capacity of this truck is embarrassingly low. Some estimates put the load capacity of a Tesla Semi at 5000-10000 lbs. That 12.5%-25% that of a diesel truck. That's the reason why this truck has only been bought, in small number, by one company and is only used to transport extremely light cargo (chips). The range of a diesel truck is also about six hundred miles, and It takes five minutes to refuel. Some reports indicate the range of a Tesla semi is significantly less than five hundred miles, more like 300 miles. Clearly, Elon did not do any market research before designing this truck because he and his staff don't seem to know what makes a good truck or what logistics companies look for in a truck. This is not a serious vehicle but is just a vanity project and will fail miserably.
The once in a century infrastructure investment is a really good perspective that I think many, including myself have not considered. Looking back and seeing what we have achieved with the highways and railroads, a wide scale grid update seems achievable.
Yes, it's the main competitive advantage of tesla IMO. I'm so disappointed other car manufacturer did such a poor job with chargers across the US.
They were forced to use the money to build a charging infrastructure because of "Dieslgate". I think it shows that it wasn't their choice, it's not competitive, it doesn't last, and it's not the best distribution across the states.
It's disgusting that they took it as a profit driven adventure while it's supposed to be their punishments. But u they loose money on every car and don't make up the money in maintenance so you have to recoup somewhere..
As long as Tesla plays ball with the charging standards being created. Otherwise, we're gonna have a situation where charging stations have like twenty different hookups and it's a nightmare.
Considering that we already have a pretty good electrical infrastructure across the country adding charging stations is just like adding access points to something that’s already there.
@@teslaliving4924 we actually have terrible power infrastructure, not as bad as Japan though. Early adopter syndrome.
@@z-beeblebrox Tesla is the leader in EV technology. It is up to the government to get involved and set the standards . Which I think they just did siding with Tesla system as the standard. Not 100% sure thou. I think we also need to invest in nuclear power .
Can’t wait to see this on Ice Truckers
Yoss.
Evs don’t perform well in freezing temps.
@@Seacai150 They do if they have heat pumps.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@neeljavia2965 how long have you had your Tesla and do you live in Alaska?
I guess this kind of load makes sense with Frito-Lay likely having short distanced, large volumetric loads of low density and thus lower weight. I think hydrogen makes more sense for larger vehicles like Semi-trucks due to its greater energy density but, the infrastructure needs to be there first. That’s a significant investment and unlike with EVs, where you only have to generate the electricity on the already existing grid (although likely needing to fortify it in some cases first) with hydrogen you have to be able to generate clean, green, renewable and or carbon free energy to create the hydrogen for it to make sense environmentally. Beyond just simply generating hydrogen, you then have to create a large, realistically and technically viable Hydrogen infrastructure network for transportation, storage, fueling on top of the clean generation of that hydrogen.
_I guess this kind of load makes sense with Frito-Lay likely having short distanced, large volumetric loads of low density_
Yes, because the product of Frito-Lay is low density snack foods. But PepsiCo also runs Tesla Semis making deliveries out of the PepsiCo Sacramento Bottling Plant, weighed-out with high density loads of soft drinks, more than 500 miles round trip to Bakersfield, or climbing from near sea level in Sacramento to 7,200 ft. at Donner Summit, on the way to Reno.
Hydrogen is a fool's errand, even for trucks. Current per-mile costs are many times those for BEVs; there's virtually no fueling infrastructure, which you acknowledge; H2 stations cost many times what Tesla Superchargers or Megachargers cost, and can only refill a limited number of vehicles before requiring more H2 to be *trucked* to the station. Further, almost all commercially available H2 is formed from fossil fuels, which you also implicitly acknowledge; so without elaborate carbon-capture methods, H2 just shifts the emissions from one place to another.
BEVs are succeeding because the per-mile cost was already lower than that for liquid fuels, even at the beginning. And the distribution network was already in place, needing only low-cost charging stations to be installed; of which Tesla has built a near-worldwide network of >50,000 chargers in just ten years. Can you imagine this happening with H2 stations in ten years, when nobody's buying them? I can't.
13:18 excuse me who told this man that an diesel engine has a better power to weight ratio than an electric one?
The electric engine is a lot smaller than the diesel and cranks a lot more power out.
How about including the battery pack weight?
I'm a local driver for a mega carrier arm, i expect to see electric replace a good portion of the home daily drivers sooner than later. Its really gonna come down to reliability though, if they start hitting the roads and are rolling fine it will switch quickly. If not its going to be long and drawn-out.
Yep, it's just a matter of time. Though, don't expect Tesla to produce meaningful numbers this year. It will scale to a few hundreds, but the real scale will happen in a year or two, like with the model Y and 3.
i haul milk locally. it's farm loading and plant delivery. we are on overweight permits, and everything here is hills. i drive a 2022 T880 X15 cummins 565 hp and an 18 speed manual. this ugly thing isnt going to be replacing my X15 powered beast. it simply wont have an stamina with the weight or the hills. it wont be hauling construction equipment, windmill generator heads (LOL), blacktop, concrete, dirt, stone, water, fuel or anything that's on an overweight permit...... which is ALLOT of local trucking.
Agree with you.
That said, I own a Tesla. Haven't had to do ANY maintenance other than changing tires and adding wiper fluid for 5 years. I think reliability is generally better because the electric drivetrain has no fluids. It's much simpler.
The problem might be repairs when you need them. Like say non reliability issues like accidents. You can really only go to Tesla service centers.
Reliability should be a LOT better. Very few movable parts, lesser wear and tear, more life expectancy..
50k by 2024 sounds reasonable as thats only 134 semis per day compared to Ford who produces 600ish per day F-150. While it's triple the amount they are a third in size. So on a scaling method and knowing the industry and production lines it's for sure possible pending plant construction meets PCDs.
Bring it to germany please so many trucks here the impact would be great!
Craig, a diesel powertrain can produce more power from a weight perspective? Last time i looked, one of the factors benefitting EV trucks to allow for more batteries is that the powertrain weights less than a diesel engine with a transmission 🤣 Please don't make it sound like an EV motor can't pull the crap out of a diesel engine any day from 0 RPM
A million mile guarantee! Bold! I like it and would be willing to drive this rig!
Before def, trucks made way more than 1mm miles with the origonal engine and some newer trucks still do if you keep a head of the maintenance schedule... So that's not much of a guarantee, it will take a little over 6 years to know if it's true.
You won't get the chance once it drives itself
@@MyLifeTheStruggle1 Actually you can get a certification for autonomous trucks, which I plan to get. So yes I will because AI can't handle specific tasks such as where many flatbeds go. Ie construction areas in the middle of nowhere.
@@MyLifeTheStruggle1 planes fly themselves, still need pilots
@@TheBuddillaIt’s only a matter of time before you’re obsolete as a driver. Nothing new, just progress.
Fully loaded 0-60 in 20 seconds. Accelerates up hill with a full load. Regenerates while coming downhill instead of noisy engine brakes. Truckers are forced to have a break so the charging is done then. 400 miles confirmed in real world too. They won't be screwing up traffic that's for sure. As a truck driver I would love it.
Anybody that tells you it is a good idea to do 0-60 in 20 seconds in a semi is a dam fool. That will increase roll over accidents for sure and probably many others as well. Anyone that has driven yrucks for any length of time will understand this. Imagine being able to get to 50 miles an hour in a top heavy semi while going on a cloverleaf on or off ramp. And unfortunately people nowadays are too stupid to understand you cant drive a semi like a car. And all of teslas safety features wont prevent a semi trailer from rolling over.