This Is How the Lexus ISF Should Have Sounded From the Factory - Muffler Delete
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My biggest complaint when I first drove the ISF was that the exhaust was too quiet. On today's episode, we're addressing that for FREE.
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Wow man, it's amazing how much better she sounds without the mufflers. I've always appreciated a low and deep rumble so this hits home for me. Great job awaking the passion from that exhaust.
The quad tips are somewhat functional. The stock exhaust has 4 tips that exit out of the 4 diffuser tips. The diffuser tips have a small scoop on the back that scoops air from under the car, mixes it with the exhaust fumes, and runs it out through the bumper to avoid melting the bumper. Muffler delete sounds great. I recommend PPE headers and Joe Z exhaust.
also, if someone was to hit you from behind, a real exhaust wouldn't crumple on impact all the way to the transmission etc.
So removing the muffler can cause it to melt or what?
Youre gonna be pitching tents you get headers lol
Bahaha
Reminds me of when I took the mufflers off my 3.0R while swapping sway bars, it will definitely sound even better with the proper exhaust on it! Making me miss having a slightly obnoxious car, I am enjoying the quietness of the Crown though (for now).
Holy 😍 those shifts are insane
Dude, wear some safety lenses when you're working under the car. You won't realize how important this is until something goes horribly wrong.
I have to agree.
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@@janprokopenko7928 yeah that's it. Nothing to worry about. And Covid-19 is no worse than the flu.
@@janprokopenko7928 rust* dust falls in your eye
yeah you definitely wouldn't want any metal fragments or any fluids from the car in your eye
Wow dude don’t ever get rid of this car , such a gem .. you should hear a basic is250 with indivia mid pipes and muffler Delete sounds like a skyline gtr no lie
Can’t wait to hear this with exhaust
This isn't a bad long term mod man. Mine has been deleted for several years now - and it sounds gorgeous. Not Equal Length Novel, but it's still quite nice.
At 5:18, you can see where the exhaust flattens out... The same design on the SC430 but its crimped down even more.. Its down to a little over 1" believe it or not.. I originally thought it was to provide a little more backpressure for low-end torque. The exhaust was restrictive in a few other spots as well, but I addressed it with a custom true-dual exhaust, using universal magnaflow mufflers and kept the resonator. I found out that the car lost no power shortly after the work was done and the crimped spot at the Y was gone. The exhaust shop thought Toyota did this to make a little more room around the IRS/pumpkin, and allow that area of the exhaust to be closer to the car frame.
Eventually I had a hole develop in one of my magnaflows due to bad welding, so I had it fixed. After listening to the exhaust, I wanted to try removing the resonator later on. Few months past that, and my 2009 SC430 was totaled on the front, so the exhaust was cut off and moved to my 2006 SC430 replacement that was actually in far better shape and in blue which is not the easiest to find. When the shop moved the exhaust over, the modified a few bends for better flow, removed the resonator, and then I had the install single chamber Flowmasters.. lol.. It fucking sounded unbelievable, and when I left the shop a couple of years ago I was certain I was going back to have them install a new resonator, but I have still not had it done yet. The car is no longer a daily driver, and I use it for pleasure and have played around with mods. One of these days I need to put up a video of the exhaust - its absolutely ridiculous and catches too much attention and as much as I enjoy it the drone is overwhelming when the top is down... Its actually a good deal louder than the car was without any mufflers. I cannot imagine what these flowmasters would sound like on the larger ISF 5.0 engine with no resonator.
I kept the totaled 2009 and parted it out.. I have the power train and IRS aside with the engine on a stand, and working on improving the older 3UZ 4.3 V8. Picking up stronger and longer rods, and better pistons to make something that it more in the 4.7 to 5.0 range. All the other obvious intake and head/valve work, trans and torque converter, PPE headers, etc, and then finding a way to mount a universal turbo/intercooler kit on it, but nothing over 6-8psi. The current 2006 model has some mods and its not too much over 300hp but definitely faster than stock.
We also have a BMW 328 X-drive, which is currently at 78k and when it gets closer to 100k, I am going to pick up an ISF to replace it.. I have been eye-balling the listings, and recently found one for around 19-20K with 130k or so miles in great shape but with a few dings and few scratches on the paint.
sounds good! i bought my isf with a borla exhaust and plan to do headers and an intake and potentially a custom valved setup
Muffler delete can do a lot! I cut the muffler off of my 540i and just put a downpipe in his place and it sounded soooo much better.
It did have a host of other frustrating problems and I'm glad to be rid of it, but I do miss the sound!
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Fun fact:
I'm 186 cm tall and i barely fit in the driver seat of my grandad is250, i hit the roof. If you are 190cm tall and over you will not be able to drive comforly
Congrats! I have low milage 2014 black ISF and love it all the way 😍 Sikky headers and JoeZ is my recommendation - i have it and it's stunning. It's great reliable car 😎 what's your ODO now?
Is that a cameo at 3:20 of the 997.2 Turbo you reviewed a few months back?
Yep. More on that soon!
Exactly what I did. Sounds beast besides the drone .
Hi kurt and good morning Love your isf awesome car.Id live to get one myself I've dome some research on them.You should go with the PPE headers compared to the sicky headers.Its very labor intensive for the headers the guys at sicky put a video out on changing out the headers.Glad your having fun with the car and happy driving.
I hope to have more info on headers soon!
my drone got better when I added exhaust tips, granted they poke out 3" from the bumper but I was pleased with the results - GS 430
That good thing about isf you can drive it as hard as you can and it won't leave you in the side of the road like a BMW m3..
The ISF is the modern day e39 M5. Classic luxury V8 sedan with a ton of power, used, and affordable.
Bro dnt class toyota with german crops.toyota in the own class the king of autos.who u believe in more toyota v8 natural 415hp.or a twin turbo v8 thats hard makes more hp than toyota.all german use to gain power is turbos.take dem off just a noral car.toyota forever
@@dorranrobinson6207 I get what you're saying but the E39 has a N/A 5L V8 as well so the similarities are there. The E39 M5 is one of the greatest sports sedans of all time so to get compared to one is an honor.
@@dorranrobinson6207 bro breathe. The e39 m5 is a naturally aspirated 5L V8 executive sedan just like the ISF and it's incredibly reliable. Plenty examples with well over 200k miles and going Chill out.
not affordable anymore lol
So, cars have passive air flow vents in the rear quarter panels. Leaving the exhaust to vent under the car will draw CO into the interior. Probably not a smart idea to run it that way.
I’m sure you might have done something already but if your getting a full kit it won’t matter but I had to secure the pipe to the cross bar that’s right under the pipe On Mine the pipe would bounce and smack the bottom of the car. Then I put on the borla kit and left the stock headers.
For my muffler delete had to cut them off with a saw, nice that you could do it without cutting anything.
You have an isf and had to cut it off? Axleback portion is bolted. Or did u mean the hangers? I had to cut 2 of the 4 that were connected to muffs
Blur out those suggested speed limit signs when you're capturing a fly-by. Love the new sound!
Huh? You think the cops are watching CZcams videos and mailing out speeding tickets?
This entire video is computer generated anyway.....
@@TopRawMen 🤣😂
Getting rid of the factory middle center pipe for true dual with the stock mufflers sounds even better.
My exhaust is off currently to get modified but I’m just curious if you just took it off then dropped it and drove, or did you hang it up at the end
EatSleepDrive do you think it's a good idea to have the car tune and 2nd did have any issues after the tune ? thx
You doing the steering computer next? 2013-2014 steering computer is supposed to be the best, but 2011-2012 is a big upgrade as well.
I had no idea the ISF’s exhaust was Y piped in the back. That kinda sucks, but sounds almost as good as my LS460!
Ok I just sold my 250 and got a 350, now you making me want to just get a ISF!
Pretty soft still. I also deleted my resonator and still sounded too quiet. Going to delete my secondary cats hopefully it’s enough sound till I get my headers lol
If straight pipe is run exiting under the rear bumper, it will then help to minimize drone. Having the resonator opened at the center of the chassis under the car will, of course, is not good at all.
why no upshift beep? how do you enable or disable that?
Interesting, my car has a resonator delete I believe and instead of deep, bassy sounds, it absolutely shrieks as it climbs up the rev range. IDK which i like better hm..
I've been driving my Lexus GS400 around for around 2.5 years with the rear mufflers, it's awesome! Wish I could afford an ISF though
yea i’m 14 so hopefully by the time i’m 15 i can start working to buy one !
Invest while you’re young
You’ll be able to get 2 by the time you’re 25
@@jonschlegel2961 therein lies the problem.... I'm 47
Sorry that was meant for Joaquin galvan
jon schlegel i’m going to work until i can pay half of it and my dad is going to pay the other half other than that i’m going to be paying for all things im going to do to it
This reminds me of those Downshiftings from StraightPipes video with his then ISF🔥🔥🔥🔥
I watched the Sikky headers install video last week...I'm no longer interested in putting headers on now hahaha
Yeah............. about that...
And it's way worse than that video shows... one of the best upgrades you can do to the ISF though so well worth it.
Honestly a big fan of the two into one axle dump. Just need to delete all the stock cats and do a turn down on the dump and you have maximum weight loss with great in cabin sound and a car that's actually not all that loud from far away. Also it still has exhaust tips so folks don't know you've gone full weight loss lol
Is you take the resonator off It'll sounds way better did it on my is350
I messaged the person selling the car but I didn’t have time to go to knoxville to drive it sadly :( I was thinking about buying this exact car..... but as we can all tell it was too late...
Sucks to be you. ;-)
I knew I had to jump on it or someone else would. Sorry bro, but I'm sure you'll find the right one!
Like me put all the tires at the back,leather no more,rather than your neighbors sisters,lol 😂😂😂
Ur isf looks dope
yea the exhaust (Borla) will actually create power as it deletes the 2 cats under the car so your about to have a blast had my isf for 5 years
I own an isf, and i find that muffler delete on the isf sounds the best. Idk why. The pitch is much higher
Good luck with installing headers cuz it's very Labour intensive, barely any room to install.
sweet car bruh
Thanks man!
Lexus stopped making the ISF. Did you all see the unveiling for this upcoming year? Not a fan of the new one...sick exhaust by the way!
Does it change the driving characteristics? The weight ratio front to back might be be changed significantly if those mufflers are as you say weighty.
That exhaust must be heavy. Struggle bus bringing them down!
I got that same Harbor Freight Jack bro
Love this thing.
That car looks hella clean underneath.
Thanks mate
4:59 me at the gym 😁
Haha!
Delete the secondary cats and it sounds crazy plus a little gains
Gut the header cats. Once gutted it has almost the same flow rate as the PPE headers
You also gain 25 hp cuz the stock headers are very restrictive
yea my bro did the gut it does make more power. similar to ppe header
You’ll get a engine light tho?
Aw dude, why did you go and do that? Heard of drone? Oh you will...
Any check engine light on since the delete?
Nope, cats are still intact.
to fix drone listen to music while you drive lol
Drone is what you hear as well as feel. Loud music won't fix it.
So... what's the consensus on isf vs c63amg for daily (both 2010ish)?
The M156 in the C63 is a beast, one of the few cars that clearly sounds better than the ISF. To hear a M156 bark to life on startup is to get goosebumps!
As far as reliability, hands down Lexus. The M156 tends to have issues with head bolts failing, premature camshaft wear and a host of other issues.
For a daily car, definitely go with the ISF. Way, wayyyyy more reliable! Also rarer.
Anybody switch from strictly driving manuals to getting one of these? I always feel like life sucks when I drive an automatic but I like this car. I just don’t want to get it and immediately want to sell it. I usually feel less in control, especially when they shift in corners but, I guess the paddle shifters help?? Idk. Any opinions??
Personally, I don't have a problem with automatic cars as long as the automatic is good. The old slush boxes are still around in many cars and absolutely awful to drive, but when you drive a modern auto that is actually good, like this one, you don't think about the loss of the stick nearly as much. This auto is great, and the fact that it came out in 2008 is mind blowing to me.
Update the rear tail light to the newer ones they look sick
It's on the list
EatSleepDrive Please don’t. An IS F should look as such. Those Other tail lights look tacky.
how much time did it take you to remove the mufflers?
Maybe an hour. Not long at all.
She purrs
sorry not too good at the mechanical parts of a car, i want my isf to sound better, but why isnt muffler delete a good option for long term use? does it damage anything or what?
No just causes drone which can or cannot be annoying to the user if you drive it long distances or every day.
It shifts like it has a DSG transmission
Why does it beep everytime you shift
its a shift beeper! you can turn it off.
@@SNORKYMEDIA you can't
You need a joe z exhaust.
Discontinued
TopRawMen a borla will do. Sound just as nice. Had no idea joe z was discontinued.
Sounds like when ur mufflers roted and blown
Yes. Ghetto. Car sounds broken
I'm picky and broke so my exhaust is gonna stock for a while
I kind of think it sounds better stock, which is a first, at least over video, if mainly because of induction sound
Sounds great at the 45mph pass 🥴
You know that exhaust delete will be a detriment to your fuel mileage. Not a big difference but you will notice it...
brRRRRR BEEP!
Mic can't do it justice. Needs to be heard in real life.
hello drone
Is it legal?
Yes muffler deletes are fine. Cat deletes are illegal.
The next mod I highly suggest installing is the rr racing usrs, improves the handling of the car drastically
Couldn’t that be a carbon monoxide hazard on a long road trip? But since you’re just doing it temporary it’s probably no big deal.
Both primary and secondary cats are upstream, wont make any difference in emissions, however larger risk of exhaust fumes pulled in through the trunk vents, yes.
Get a straight pipe it’ll sound the same as an exhaust
Frying ur diff man, get a proper exhaust asap
The y-pipe is the only thing that's "wrong" with the stock exhaust. A true dual system with h-pipe sounds the best, to me.
Greddy is king:
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Exciting car man, I just got an IS350 myself. We should collab. 👊
Next: cat delete
Linus?
Dude! That’s what i freaking thought, Linus Car Tips. Long lost twin?
It's amazing to me that Lexus engineers set out to build this high performance car and when they got to the exhaust they were like eh it's fine.
It is fine actually. This is not a riced out Honda Civic with an AutoZone muffler.
It’s fine. Just can be made better to suit the V8
I don't understand how all these CZcamsrs take all this time to do a video but don't do proper research to give the right info. This guy should have done a bit more research about why the exhaust tips are there for before saying that they're "fake" or "for aesthetics only"
IMO KEEP HEADERS STOCK AND DO AN AXLE BACK SET UP. 💯
Axel back waste of money no performance benefit and not that much louder that stock. Headers by far give you the biggest increase in actual HP. When headers are combined with catback exhaust that when you gain a significant amount of horsepower and torque as well as serious sounding exhaust. If you just do headers and leave stock exhaust you get bump in hp not as much if with went with catback but your level will be more muted. Also stock manifolds are know for cracking. I've owed my 2011 ISF since it was new also 10yrs now. I've been FBO for 9yrs and Tuned for last several yrs. No issues with PPE headers or JoeZ exhaust.
@@TheDavcrz5 Have you watched ISFASTER races??? FBO IS NOT FOR ME. YOU DONT NEED IT FOR LEXUS...
@@is4life862 I've watched all of his videos and communicated with him several time regarding his videos here on CZcams. He has mastered launching his car in 1/8 mile races. He wins most of his race because he has tons of seat time and knows how to launch his car. He himself state he has significant amount of time at his local track. It doesn't mean you can duplicate his feats? unless you spend a lot of time at track like he does or did he was selling his ISF but he was there nearly weakly.
I'm not some numb I'm 56yr old, have been driving sports cars for 38yrs have owned all sorts of performance cars from America muscle, European, and JDM cars. I've owned my 2011 ISF since Is was brand new nearly 10yrs agos. I'm FBO RR Racing Tune and Tuned intake running E30 blend figs engineering RRRACING Sikky compents as well as two suspension KWv3 coilovers and Airlift3H. Currently on Airlift 3H. With these mods it allows ISF to stay competitive against modern cars such as s550 Mustang GT, RCF, SS Camaro, Stingray C7 vettes, GSF, 392 Chargers even stock M4's and other modern and older performance cars. A stock ISF does not stand chance against any of these cars if driver of newer or older higher hp car has equal skill level driver to driver. Its driver that's the most important part of any cat no matter hp or tech it has but some times it can just be pure hp advantage.
But when facing opponent of equal skill whether stock or FBO it becomes now which car is more capable. If you like to cruise along with occasional WOT. then back to cruising along or happy with performance of stock ISF which is still a very capable and fun cars to drive on street or track yeah then stock is cool and there or advantage of remaining stock. But if your competitive and want to maximize the cars performance potential then by all means do what you like. FBO or just catback, perhaps FBO plus Tune. Especially if you racing your car at 1/4,1/2, 1 mile events, runway races or highway pulls against modern cars a stock ISF wouldn't stand chance against these newer cars with equal drivers.
Now FBO Tune and Tuned intake ISF can be extremely competitive against cars that have 12 plus yrs newer tech and hp advantage such launch control, awd, higher hp then stock ISF. Most of these newer cars all start around 450hp and go up from there in todays performance cars. So it depends what you want to do your expectations. Can experience driver in stock ISF beat inexperienced diver in newer or higher hp car? yes absolutely. But it's driver skill level that won not car. If Two experience drivers with same skill level race let say stock ISF against any modern higher hp car like let say 10 speed automatic paddle shifter S550 479hp and 442tq with Ford cold air performance kit it's just $1200 option 90% of owner have them. Against 416hp and 371tq on stock ISF doing roll race on highway up top the ISF will do well but just not enough to hold off S550 Mustang. Now FBO tuned ISF running against FBO s550 thats race. Just look here on CZcams and watch race between ISF running these newer cars and see how well FBO Tune some with E85 do against these same s550 FBO Mustang and others. They are winning races especially on highways, runway and mile races events. That where ISF shines up top past 120mph mark up to 170mph or higher if you have speed limiter removes, it just pulls and pulls when FBO and Tuned.
So it all depends on what your goals are. Some owner like to keep their cars relatively stock and that's cool I get. While others like to mod their cars, they are looking to maximize their cars potential. So to say you don't need to be FBO depends on owner expectations and goals are for his or her car. But to think stock ISF can keep up with new cars with equal drivers with same skill sets is interesting. Like I said I've owned my ISF for nearly 10yrs I know what's its capable of both in stock form with just JoeZ catback back, then PPE headers and JoeZ exhaust, now RR Racing Tune and Tuned intake that comes with larger MAF housings to allow for larger volume of air being pushed into motor using 7in K&N cone Velocity stack air filter along with E85. Believe me when I say there is night and day difference between two. Add RRRACING S/C now your in whole different category more in supercar territory with hp of 530hp to 780hp. So it's all about expectations and goals of individual owner👍.
@@TheDavcrz5 I take your word for it holy cow 😆
How to cook and set fire to your car from the heat. You need a pipe to direct it out.
Sounds too much like an AMG...
Tf is that suppose to mean
@@RAMTEE He's basically flagging himself as an euro snob. Cause the company that made the LFA doesn't know how to make cars sound good, only the Europeans know how to do that. I feel like Euro snobs need to go to Germany and see how the cars they covet are viewed like basic transportation there cause there are so many of them. The taxi cabs in Munich were BMW 7 series.
@@hamsterbrigade Hardly! I will buy an ISF soon. Great car but its character's different from the AMG. The Lexus somehow isn't about the noisy bombast associated with the AMG. Seems to me it's more about a quieter, higher-pitched deployment of V8 power. Kind of like in the same way the the Nissan GTR six-pot sounds markedly different from the M3 straight six...and both are great icons. Ive edited my original comment to reflect this more accurately...
Dude it says speed limit is 45mph not 95mph.. what are you 18 years old taking off your mufflers 😂 such a teenie weenie
Meh it's pretty underwhelming. As long as you like it though!
And on the next episode he'll be replacing the engine because he f***** up the compression ratio
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Hope you get a real exhaust soon cause it’s a shame how you disrespect an F like that. From a fellow IsF owner.
Owner of ISF since 2011, totally agree w Ronald. How the hell you disrespect an F like that man. Get a real exhaust then we talk.
@@vincentlee2865 He removed 2 bolts and 2 stock mufflers for a free experiment. Stated it was temporary 3 times then said he has aftermarket headers/full exhaust on the way. Did you watch? You guys saying you're ISF owners doesn't help either
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks what a bunch oh whiney bimbos
lmao you guys are giving the F community a bad name. He did a temporary muffler delete and you're complaining that he "DiSrEsPeCtEd tHe F"... It sounds pretty good and like he said many times he's getting an exhaust.
You drive a Walmart grocery getter dude. Nobody cares.