Finding Your Rhythm - Part One (ft. Josh Harmon)
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- čas přidán 14. 12. 2022
- The first of a two-part series exploring the overlap between comedy and music, to figure out what makes a comedian's delivery work. Featuring the wonderful Josh Harmon.
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Howdy gang!
Hope you're all keeping well. This vid has been a long time in the making and I hope it provides some food for thought. I thought it'd be wise to just give you a heads up on the copyright problems I've been having on the channel. As with all the other videos, this has been flagged for copyright stuff. I wasn't aware of this, but this means CZcams can just put ads into the videos wherever they want without my consent. I don't make any revenue off the ads. The money goes straight to whoever owns the copyrighted material. This sucks. A lot. It's a tricky one, because I like the vids the way they are and don't want to compromise the quality. However, if CZcams is sticking ads throughout; interrupting the flow of the videos then I may change tactics in the future. It's a real shame for videos like 'Bo Burnham - Inside in Context' because it screws up the pace of the video and somewhat ironically undercuts a lot of the points I try to make.
If this has happened to you, sorry. It's not me being a greedy dick, it's just CZcams being CZcams. Hopefully if I get the subscriber count up I could get someone from CZcams to look at it and let the videos play ad free. We'll see. In the mean time, I'd recommend getting the Ad Block extension or if you wanna use a CZcams to mp4 converter to download the vids and and watch them ad free, that doesn't bother me. I'd recommend it.
Keep it crispy,
Josh
This was a phenomenal video. Bravo, I dabble in improv and some of the stuff you mentioned and highlighted was *chefs kiss*. Maybe you could open up a patreon or something equivalent? Feel like you should get rewarded for such rich content. Keep being true to yourself. ✌️
Only James Acaster could pull off a pause so long, that there's time for him to explain the mechanics of why the pause works within the pause
Or Stewart Lee.
This channel is the definition of quality over quantity
SNEAKOOOO
Absolutely. Can't wait to sit down and watch this properly. Love getting nerdy about comedy like this
It reminds me of every frame of a painting. Love it so much
Talk about rhythm, the editing for this vid is stellar! Every essay on this channel is absolutely worth the wait!
Now excuse me while I go consume all of Josh Harmons clips while I eagerly await part 2.
Really good points. You always have great examples. I like that you pull from a lot of different comedians. You're clearly well versed, and that depth of knowledge shows in the writing
Thank you for another great Video.
Big thank you from China
Another phenomenal video essay, Josh! And I definitely need to read that essay about comedians and hip-hop artists (the way you have the images of Donald Glover, Mitch Hedberg, and Tupac slowly filling in is gorgeous btw).
Can't wait for Part 2! :)
great video
I was waiting for the next drop. Thank you kind sir, keep it up!
Same!
Dude, you're great! Please don't stop making videos. Views will come!
Engaging and excellent as always. Ring the bell, and go support this guy on Patreon
I learned so much thank you
This is so beautifully illustrated, thanks for sharing this man
I was convinced that today couldn't be saved, but I saw the notif for the vid and just knowing that you uploaded made it a whole lot better. Amazing content as always, thanks a ton
Incredible video and part 2. Always one of the best on youtube.
So excited when a new video comes out.
Bell this channel!
great video! just incredible
It's so interesting and well explained, thanks you so much for your work !!
After you introduced me to Stewart Lee, I will follow you anywhere.
Fantastic video essays, consistently entertaining and informative. Looking forward to this one.
Absolutely brilliant as always. Entertaining, insightful and above all…great delivery 😉
Thats treasure level of content for comedians
Great video. Masterclass stuff here.
so glad there's someone obsessed enough to make this video. amazing work!
Not often i watch everything a channel has put out but your videos are truly excellent
Great work, you can tell the time and effort put into it.
Really, really enjoyed this. I don't know how I found you but I'm so glad I did! Never made the connection between music/comedy before but it makes perfect sense.
I absolutely love this channel. I like analysing stuff in my free time and I'm mindblown that there's so much depth in a favourite topic of mine- comedy!
Cant' wait for part 2!!!!
Good god man, you're so good at this. I literally have nothing else to say, this is just brilliant.
yessssss love to see a new video out!
This is is pure gold. You don't get these lessons from anywhere you else.
Never stop putting out content. You are a gift to comedy.
Man's speaking comedy....... this is exactly why Jerry Lewis had a band behind him. He's the first I heard call comedy Rythm.
Good stuff
It's taken me a while to get my delivery where I want, something I've intuited rather than studied, but I found this video fascinating especially as I'm a musician - I have that image in my head of the guy pointing at himself on TV. I am sorry to hear about your copyright woes but I wasn't bothered by any ads for whatever reason so I'm alright Jack. As ever, top notch content and well worth the wait.
man this is awesome !
I've been playing guitar and drums for about a month now.
So, this was a perfect find! Hell Yeah!
This was incredible
The flow in comedy is a relationship beteen the jokes and the audience. I believe you miss spoke but thats cool guy your video was great and i love your work.
AdBlock for the win. These videos are so terrific; I can't even imagine ads interrupting and ruining them. Must be super frustrating.
Super interesting video! Would be nice to have a few sources linked in the description
Damn, I love your videos
This is a wonderful video and it's clear how much effort you put into every video which is wonderful. I really want to see if I can take some of these pieces and translate them over to general non comedy public speaking. Especially since I am a research scientist it's almost impossible to give a presentation without just droning on and boring everybody to fuck
I'm glad you're back! You should upload more
Do a video on Mitch Hedberg please i think it would be interesting
This content is 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Thank you so much man for making this, I thought I was a weirdo for obsessing over comedy and trying to learn all the intricacies of this beautiful art form but I guess I am not alone haha, I know this video might not get a lot of attention but seriously this one is my absolute favorite and the most rewatchable one. Please keep making good content like this, and best of luck for the future.
These videos are superb! Would be interesting to see the analysis in this video applied to Stewart Lee, in that he intentionally goes against the established conventions of stand up a lot of the time.
Having said that, I assume there's a part 2 so maybe I just jumped the gun 🤣
Seeing the drew michael video and the rhythm videos made me realise they tie nicely to a person ive been studying for a while now.
Spalding gray may be an interesting person to do a deep dive on (assuming you have plenty of video ideas in the can but let a guy dream, will you?).
On the off chance you dont already know that, Spalding gray is known for his solo shows in the 80-90s, he is a big insperation on Maron's style and Mulaney's flow, and spookely, had a similare scandal as mulaney albeit in a less public eye.
His rhythm tops carlin's IMO, being a musical composition student, i transcribed some of his speech and its crazy how musical and on a steady beat he tends to be!
Some of his specials are filmed in a similar pergatory vibe as drew michael, namely "Grays Anatomy".
He made an impact on the stand up world and was far ahead of his time in terms of honesty, style and form.
Give him a try if you like, and if it sparks an essay in you, im gonna watch the hell out of it.
Hey, this was absolutely awesome. I was hunting for videos like this for years. I wish your effort was better rewarded by CZcams :(. I am working on a newsletter on comedy, coming from the same place as you...wanting to help people appreciate the artform more. I saw you faced copyright issues on this video. You should consider the written word as well! Also can I ask how you have such an encyclopedic knowledge of comedy (with a heavy UK focus of course). Just an mega comedy nerd like me or have you been a performer?
the closer look
Is- is that Incredibox in the background?
Wow
P.S.: Any thoughts on Vir das or Drag Queens?
Snoop dog did a comedy special
I’m commenting bc of the algorithm thingy
23:00
Jak Szumowski poleca to trzeba zobaczyc!
I feel like a bad mother because I want to learn all this only so that I'm able to teach my son and be able to endure his storytelling? 😭 My son is a big talker and I find it nearly impossible to keep up because of the delivery.
... I know there's more work I need to do on myself as far as becoming more patient and tolerant but still I worry about how this'll affect his future relationships with others.
why no generation subtitless ?
It’s perfect, but I don’t understand all words without fucking subtitles! Hi from Russia!
Bro I'm going to archive your CZcams channel every single video is a lesson in a stand up. I was looking to make myself funny. ( I'm done with just being shock edgey haha funny guy Iwanna grow myself as artist)
I dont get it. Should i take drum lessons?
Breakdown / analyze Shane Gillis! He’s a rising comedian and has the same calmness as Chappelle!
To start out saying that Carlin or prior can "ruin" a joke is a very interesting premise but I digress let me continue watching...🤨
He's pointing out some carefully constructed routines that are structured compositions like those by Chopin. For example, I remember Carlin doing his "Football vs. Baseball" routine once where he flubbed something. The entire bit alternates between the sports, and he adopts a different voice for each (i.e., gruff for football vs. dainty for baseball). He transposed the point (or maybe the voice? I forget) about halfway through, and that took the audience out of the piece. For the remainder of the routine, instead of following its natural flow, everyone constantly analysed each point to make sure it fell into the correct column (i.e., was he talking about football or baseball?) because they no longer trusted the structure to be intuitive. It took everyone out of the piece the way any bad note does at a concert. The content of the material was fine, but the execution was flawed.
It's like if someone wanted to make a point that held Richard Pryor in high esteem, yet couldn't even spell his name correctly.
@@alexplorer I see what you did there at the end of your message, but know that I SPOKE my comment into the section via one of these people-trackers that y'all consistently refer to as "smartphones", instead of thumb texting it, and the dumb AI picked up what it did🤷🏿♂️ but thank you for the message.
I appreciate the sharpening.
was there a less transphobic clip you could have used at 33:00
It's just a joke
@@BadassRandomness jokes should be funny, that bit was just mean
@@mollym8137 I didn't find that joke funny either, Mark has much better ones. But it's still just a joke. This video is all about how the rythm is more important than the content of the joke. Just silly goose times, my friend. Mark is a good egg
@@BadassRandomness everything I've heard from Mark falls into the misogynist edgelord category
@@Taobeth Than you haven't heard enough!
why are men, on average, much funnier than women?
Can't tell if you're trolling (i.e., just stirring the pot), but a lot of people have already chimed in on this over the years. The main guess is that men use humor to put potential mates at ease, whereas women have no biological impetus to do the same, so in the short term they don't have as much practice doing it, and in the long term, it isn't something that's been selected for on the female side.
I'd add to that a double standard in what's available to men: Being over-the-top. There are plenty male comedians who can go wild and jump around, act insane, punch themselves in the face, etc., whereas that's not something available to women. (Contrast with a wild, sexy outfit. A woman is sexier the more over-the-top and revealing the outfit is. We have decades of examples from Oscars red carpets, Mtv music videos, etc. that demonstrate that. But if a male tried the same, it's at best just funny.) I remember a female orchestral conductor pointing out how male conductors are allowed to be passionate and thrash around with the baton waving and end the piece a sweaty and disheveled mess, hair all over the place. But she would be viewed as a lunatic for the same. Same goes for stand-up for the most part.
Another problem is that women generally are more risk-averse in social situations, so they often don't speak up until they are sure of themselves. That's an impediment in comedy, where timing matters. You have to respond immediately to a heckler, and you have to be confident doing it. You have to work fast in improv, even though you have no idea where you're going with a bit. There was a study of the playing styles on the game show Jeopardy, and women fared poorly because they were slower to ring in (again, because of not jumping in until they were sure of their answer). They also tended to bet more conservatively on all the "Daily Doubles" and "Final Jeopardy" questions, cases where you don't know in advance if you can be confident of your answer.
There's also a participation problem: Women just don't show up. Extending the Jeopardy story to a different area, there were fewer female contestants overall. The ratio wasn't even as bad as it could have been. So few women tried out that the show had to inflate the number of female contestants by excluding qualified males. (See "The Jeopardy! Book" by Alex Trebek.)
Additionally, women tend to band together and cooperate rather than forge their own path. Stand-up is a solitary endeavor (at least on stage) that says, "Look at me! Listen to what I have to say!", whereas women tend to excel in sketch comedy where they can mutually support other performers. Note that the first rule of improv is "Yes, and...?" that allows the other person to build their piece rather than you challenging it. You can add to it, but you can't be combative.
You also have to have a competitive drive even to be heard. You have to fight to your slot during so-called "open" mic times. You have to jockey your way ahead in clubs, at roasts, anywhere you're in competition with other comics. You have to show a drive that gets you ahead of other comics. Stand-up comedy is not a team sport. No one says "It takes a village" to raise a comic. The comic entertains the village or gets tarred and feathered.
Stand-up tends to thrive when the performer is an iconoclast who offers a controversial perspective (at least as a thought experiment) or leads the audience down an uncomfortable path toward a payoff. Women tend to try to mollify or avoid controversy altogether, hence many of the routines pandering to the audience by bringing everyone on board ("Don't you hate it when..."), so they can't take the same path to the punchline as a male performer would.
Sure, there are plenty exceptions to these generalizations, but the overall trend is such that the typical male will typically make a joke (especially a risky one), while the typical female will avoid rocking the boat by drawing attention to herself by saying something that might upset someone.
Personally, I'm drawn to female comics, but they're in short supply (i.e., they're a minority) and/or limited (i.e., they seldom push boundaries to the same extent) by the above constraints, so we often don't get them on stage. When they get on stage, they limit always themselves in ways male performers don't.
@@alexplorer minority, lol