OMG I can't believe you actually wired up all those diodes just for this video haha but you're right it did present a very clear picture of how the circuit would work. Thank you for putting it all that time and effort I learned a lot from this video!
@dreammix9430 No, you actually didn't learn anything. Ever notice how ALL these “Free Energy gizmo's " are never used by the person making said gizmo, to power anything in their own home, let alone selling the gizmo's to anybody else. It might as well be called a “Flux Capacitor” , invented by Dr. Emmett Brown, from “Back to the Future”. NO SUCH THING AS FREE ENERGY
I envision a ZPM application using the fractal capacitors instead of batteries in Tesla's battery swapping charger and splitting the positive with an output resistance that is 1/2 or less of the difference in potential between the series and parallel capacitors.
Outstanding Rob! You devised the best method I've seen to provide the viewer with a foundational understanding of those confusing diode voltage multipliers/dividers, and what it is we're actually doing here. Great work!
Now Robert, don't act so surprised! You know you're outstanding. As I might have been smooth convincing the officer to cuff himself, I'm still a criminal. The truth is the truth, and with that I move to, with a second aye, that you obtain the alias/aka (Mr.Outstanding) .
As someone who just got into eletrconics ive heard of voltage dividers to reduce voltage using resistors, but not with capacitors, facsinating, killivolts to 1 volt? amazing! This means you could fly a kite in a thunderstorm and get energy from lighting? like we always wanted.
Our government is already doing this .. their not going to tell us this however because then they'd have to tell us about the aircraft up there that r as big as cities.... Then they'd have to get into the tech that allows these craft to stay up there indefinitely and so on and so forth, I can tell u all these " internet" lines Obama had put up to help all us poor country folk .... Really wasn't about that at all but does have to do with these huge craft and the plasma orbs that they collect and send back down into the power lines , n then as near as I can tell r routed into the ground for whatever reason, I'm no scientist but , ik what I see
Very interesting stuff. I would be curious to see if this circuit could just naturally manifest electricity from the sky by hooking this circuit's black wire up to earth ground and the red wire as high up into the sky with one of Tesla's atmospheric antennas, and maybe you could even go as far as to make your attenna fractal in nature as well. Everything in this universe is fractal and I truly believe our ancestors knew it and they were harnessing it. Anyone who doubts that free energy exists could be in for a rude awaking to all of this information that has been deliberately suppressed. God bless you for sharing your work. This is some truly incredible research
That is friggin awesome! I had a sleepless night after watching this as to the number of potential applications. Thank you..... Now to go down the rabbit hole!
A similar circuit can be used to improve power factor where the intent is to use rectified line voltage to run a DC load. The half voltage will persist between voltage peaks, so current fluctuation will be less if caps are correctly sized. The voltage halver would reduce the size of a choke to get a smooth current ripple.
🐔 📸 Coat a Mylar balloon with graphene paint, connect up a 0.2 mm copper wire coated with graphene, float it up 200 m with helium. that should give you about 20,000 volts with extremely low amperage. That setup could be used to kick it down to 208 volts with a lot more amperage! Very useful indeed! 🐔 📸
oh sure, until you try to actually drive anything with it, and when it suddenly stops after a microsecond of operation I bet you'd be left wondering why.....
Everyone who tries this just puts a copper peg in the ground when you need a powered carbon salted pit to allow enough surface area for a proper ground. You aren't pulling electrons from the air, you're pulling them from the earth and they flow to the higher potential. Tesla used a rotating nickle powder filled coherer spinning at 1000rpm as an interrupter and a capacitor to create AC, then fed it through a transformer to get usable voltage.
25:40 Just in case it's useful to someone doing this with a large number, you can buy packs of 4-pin PWM PC-fan extension cables for not very much at all. These have the same colour wires as used here and breadboard-compatible wire fits neatly into the sockets on either end, if female-female, or you could solder diodes directly between pins on male connectors.
You are an excellent teacher and I thank you for going to all the trouble you went to in order to illustrate this concept for us CZcams viewers! Ideally, this concept would be best applied not as a circuit board but as a single silicon wafer chip using present day chip technology. That’s the only way I think this idea would ever be economically feasible due to the economic costs of sourcing the components and actually assembling them together on say a production line. But for educational purposes, its brilliant as a proof of concept. As for your greater goal of harnessing environmental energy, I think Nikola Tesla did it with his resonant transformer design at Wardenclyff, which used the whole Earth as a capacitor plate. What you call “electrostatic” is really longitudinal dielectric. It’s a longitudinal standing wave in the Aether, which is formed by crossing two transverse magneto-electric currents at 180 degrees out of phase (as in a bifilar coil or bucking coil) so that they cancel out to form a single longitudinal standing wave in the Aether. On your mechanical rotary spark gap machine, which was creating high voltage impulses, the longitudinal wave is emitted at the discharge point of the spark gap for each cycle. Tesla’s hairpin circuit works in a similar fashion.
It was my favourite word in the early 90's when I first read about it as the Mandelbrot set. I think there are still video's of fractal iteration with false colours just to 'look pretty'
One fly in the ointment, the diodes in the first stage need to handle 1/3 of the charging voltage, dropping to 2/9 for the second stage so the top level stages are going to need some honking great high voltage diodes or diode stacks
I remember pondering how to do this when studying A levels in 1990...finally lol. I was looking at an ioniser that had a load of capacitors and wondered if you could reverse the process... pity it exploded 😂
I really want to encourage you to continue, because ... On a different channel there was a discussion about Fermi's paradox and the hypothesis put forward by SOME people was that one civilization using us all the raw materials (metals / fossil fuels / easily-accessible radioactives / He4 / etc) would PREVENT any successor civilization from developing. I disagree with that hypothesis because ... NECESSITY is the mother of invention and those civilizations will find a way. Which leads to the corollary - plenty is the father of inactivity. We haven't invented electrostatic science YET because ...WE DON'T NEED IT (YET). We found electromagnetism, steam, fossil fuels, etc first. Not a lot of motivation to look for more (the fossil fuel people are violently opposing us looking for more so they can stay RICH 😬). BUT ... any solution for harvesting environmental energy in a meaningful way will be HUGE. After all, that is what a PV panel does - harvest energy that was just lying around. Go outside on a sunny day and there is a kw/sq m to just pick up; it costs nothing once you have the pieces. I would say that it's better than 90% likely that there is something along this line in the electrostatic "arena" and THAT solution may be as world-changing as the PV panel (and possibly not as inconvenient). This isn't "perpetual motion" or "infinite energy", it's POTENTIALLY very similar to the "infinite energy" I get from a Renology panel.
This will probably work WONDERS on a HHO setup, gotta experiment! It never occurred to me to think of this added into the cct. Cheers Rob and thanks mate. It's PROBABLY the KEY.
Lovely lovely work! For sure. But as i watched video i kept expecting the end to show it working. I thought you might hook it up to a power supply and take a voltage reading out of the other end. Not to complain, i just thought it was heading that way and it would be lovely to see.
The only issue I see with this, is that the high voltage is always sitting on 3 diodes in serial connection. Therefore their reverse voltage treshold (zener voltage) has to be at least 1/2 of the HV input. The current and voltage dynamics during charge would be really interesting to see. For sort period of time, the diodes are doing really crazy stuff, as the holes in PN junction are quite slow. If one diode is faster then other one, the full HV can be observed on any od these 3 diodes which could potentialy destroy it (like what ESD discharge does in some cases). I think the HV rectifiers are already addressing this issue when you try to serial connect them to increase the "reverse voltage protection". Or am I wrong?
The maximum reverse voltage a diode can handle is not the zener voltage. The zener voltage is the designed voltage produced by a zener diode. Ok, that happens to be a diode in reverse conduction but the point is the zener voltage is applied to a zener diode only and not to other types of diodes.
so minus different types of diodes, assuming the first set from "lightening" size current would need to be bigger, and scale down like would make sense in my mind, are we saying that scaling them down sequentially then, they would have to be with some sort of other scale in mind? @@deang5622
very interesting explanation, but i have a question, since voltage multipliers work with AC or switched DC and not with simple DC, i think that even a voltage down converter like this needs some form of AC input or switched DC. So it would be difficult to convert an output like the one coming out from an electrostatic machine in a switched DC, maybe you would need some kind of mechanical switch to apply high DC voltage inverting the polarity periodically, or chop it (less efficient) to supply the fractal converter.
Perhaps my American ears. I could not grasp that website mentioned. A link in the description maybe? Links help so much. Thank you Robert. I never miss.
With all those diodes it's surprising that the fractal works out to be more efficient. Presumable the total series Vf of the diodes in any charging path must be lower using a fractal configuration. It would be interesting to compare the diodes charge path in a Cockcroft multplier with the fractal equivalent. Isn't the absolute voltage of the high voltage limited by the PIV of the first three diodes in series? To increase the PIV, it is usual to put more diodes in series, which reduces the efficiency.
@@dynamicresistance I have since found some diodes used for microwaves, they are rated with a PIV of 12kV @ 450mA. That gives 36kV input voltage for the first three diodes in the basic building block. ( The Peak inverse voltage limitation makes it necessary to put more diodes in series to handle the high voltage without breakdown, that generally increases the Vf losses.) My comment on the Cockcroft multiplier was ill judged, as the fractional design is for DC and not an AC supply. The diodes just switching between the series charging connection and the parallel discharge connection. I downloaded the cited document on piezoelectric energy recovery that use the fractal design. The energy losses are associated with the Vf of the diodes, and how many end up in series to get down to the required output. It is an interesting way to get from a high DC voltage at low current, to a lower DC voltage at a higher current. It may be a way to scavenge useful energy from static electricity, such as that associated with aerial space charge.
I have an idea that could totally change everyones perception of energy use and collecting., i love your videos, it sucks how it takes money to get the ball rolling
I wonder if there's a diode ink that can be used, allowing you to print some arrangement on a continuous roll of paper, and roll it back up to complete the contacts between segments.
Very interesting, I've seen the step up ladder arrays of diodes and caps, but not such a scheme/concept for stepping down. As for efficiency, yes it's important, but for atmospheric alectricity perhaps not as important as getting the sharp points up into the air. Many 1800s photos have such sharp points, spikes and domes, and balls... perhaps we are rediscovering something here, a very interesting 'field' :)
@@TnTOmnibus I was expecting a fractal electrode pattern cap - they have larger capacitance than you'd expect due to the large edge effect. I was not expecting a new power converter topology.
I seen your video on Stirling engines and that was really cool the thing I'm noticing as these people making hydrogen for their car it's running off of their alternator which makes the engine work harder which birds up any thing but I was thinking if you put a sterling motor running off your manifold of your - run car and then to make the hydrogen then you could run the hydrogen and then you wouldn't be using any energy except the wasted energy off to the thermostat does that sound right
Thank you for explaining an interesting idea simply. I'm wondering about the capacitor specifications: am I right to assume the voltage across each capacitor is proportional to the overall voltage divided by the number of capacitors - in which case the dielectric will have to withstand at least that voltage. Secondly does the schematic imply the capacitors should be matched. Thirdly would you envisage off the shelf capacitors (ie electrolytics) would suffice?
Fascinating research. I remember when I was working at NASA I saw something about Asymmetric Capacitors producing propulsion, would be interesting if that could be expanded to fractals, maybe something taking high voltage in and producing hundreds of propulsion modules, seems like UFO technology.
Because they had a bank to spend and the muscle to put study into practice. I believe they should be farther in the collective knowledge obtained. The reason I believe this is because they're still using combustion rockets.
@@matthewgreen1152 believe ..... That they r much further along in most any field then they will ever tell us, there is very big craft above us, now mind u ...idk how they do it....but they do and I can assure you it's not rockets or jet engines, they also go along collecting " plasma balls " they then unload them down a chute of some sort , n run along our power lines , then near as I can tell they then go into the ground, I would assume they provide some sort of free power, something along the lines of what he was discussing.... It's seema, and there something with plasma ..... There is answers within that whole state of matter, now idk about u , or how old u are but when I was in school they taught there was 3 states of matter, liquid, gases, and solids I nvr even remember hearing the term "plasma" other then within the human body, untill at some point I started hearing about plasma cutters, and I was like wtf, is plasma and how do u cut w it ??? Now years later I heard a scientists talking about a fourth state of matter being plasma.......so asked a friend he claims he remembers hearing about plasma being a state of matter but ik i wasn't taught that, unless it's some Mandela effect... Ig I do remember plasma balls at some point , but nvr had I heard that was a fourth state .... Anyways that new age tree w holding this translucent orb, is more than just some symbol someone thought up .. this is some advanced tech that I imagine was once common knowledge but it has since become, a hidden knowledge that's not passed down to everybody, that's for sure that what these things r .... These translucent orbs AND the trees help hold these things ..... Idk ...lol it's a VERY strange world in which we live in ...... Or so I have come to understand....
Your body is a capacitor to air and a capacitor to ground, its a divider and the ratio is 10 to 1 so if you touch an oscilloscope you get about 24V as we are surrounded by 240V a.c.
I’ve been experimenting with this lately, atmospheric power, I have little currents obviously, I would try this fractal pattern see if I could get more current
I did this experiment with a Wimshurst Machine connected to the high voltage side of a car's ignition coil where the discharge voltage of the capacitors had been depleted. The 12v 4W lamp flickered quite brightly. low voltage side.
also the advantage besides less parts in my design, is that it could well have been something Tesla was able to build with the technology that was available to him back in the day. just two mason jars and 3 coils (2 primary wound together and getting hooked up in reverse order and the 3rd one being calculated out to the exit voltage you wanted, also the voltage going in can be controlled by adjusting the grounding plate closer or further away from the electroscope foils too.
I'm fairly Newb to diodes, but might a tunnel diode work more efficiently? Might need a couple of other diodes to prevent a backflow..but more efficient?
0:59 - Did you describe the capacitor voltage division backwards? What's actually happening is that you have equal charge on the two capacitors. If you put the same charge Q on a smaller capacitor, you'll get a higher voltage. Q = C*V; keep Q the same, make C smaller, V has to be bigger. So the larger capacitor will get the smaller voltage, and vice versa. The charges match because there is no current path to the wire between the capacitors - the only way to get charge +Q onto one of them is to pull that charge from the other one. The voltage source can only supply charge to / take charge from the outside plates of the two capacitors.
Thank you for sharing this, I enjoyed it very much! One question - as the scenario is fractal, does that mean the voltages or currents drop or increase in an exponential way? If so, does that mean the voltage or current ratings of the capacitors and diodes, would have to be able to withstand the full HV or HI input or output directly? I'm trying to see the benefit of this network compared to a Cockroft-Walton multiplier, which is more of a stepped function to get high voltages. Thank you!
You should check the fractal lightning rods. They completely avoid lightnings by sucking the potential difference / static electricity with a corona. They are patented and expensive.
OMG I can't believe you actually wired up all those diodes just for this video haha but you're right it did present a very clear picture of how the circuit would work. Thank you for putting it all that time and effort I learned a lot from this video!
Problem is the effect that as in thus video is a amount of information that it's showing something if your aware of such
Tesla is the one to know this LIGHT IS THE ENERGY OF THE COLOR OF FRACTURE
@@robbmaier368What?
@dreammix9430 No, you actually didn't learn anything. Ever notice how ALL these “Free Energy gizmo's " are never used by the person making said gizmo, to power anything in their own home, let alone selling the gizmo's to anybody else. It might as well be called a “Flux Capacitor” , invented by Dr. Emmett Brown, from “Back to the Future”.
NO SUCH THING AS FREE ENERGY
ambient energy harvesting scalable architecturally compatible
Gotta be the hardest working man on CZcams Thank you sir!
The omnibus is very good at revisiting these things you show. I understand it a little better now than before, seeing it all together here. Thank you.
I am hoping that is the case mate - so that's good to know thanks for letting me know
I envision a ZPM application using the fractal capacitors instead of batteries in Tesla's battery swapping charger and splitting the positive with an output resistance that is 1/2 or less of the difference in potential between the series and parallel capacitors.
Outstanding Rob! You devised the best method I've seen to provide the viewer with a foundational understanding of those confusing diode voltage multipliers/dividers, and what it is we're actually doing here. Great work!
oh wow - cheers mate - that is a really kind thing to say
Now Robert, don't act so surprised!
You know you're outstanding.
As I might have been smooth convincing the officer to cuff himself, I'm still a criminal.
The truth is the truth, and with that I move to, with a second aye, that you obtain the alias/aka (Mr.Outstanding) .
Anyway i can help
Tinkered with electronics for a while, but this is the first time I've heard of a fractal capacitor. Very cool idea!
As someone who just got into eletrconics ive heard of voltage dividers to reduce voltage using resistors, but not with capacitors, facsinating, killivolts to 1 volt? amazing! This means you could fly a kite in a thunderstorm and get energy from lighting? like we always wanted.
yes you could!
@@justtinkering6713capacitors are found in both DC and AC applications. Capacitor voltage division in DC is actually fairly common.
Or off the roof of an rv with rials too. 👍
Our government is already doing this .. their not going to tell us this however because then they'd have to tell us about the aircraft up there that r as big as cities.... Then they'd have to get into the tech that allows these craft to stay up there indefinitely and so on and so forth, I can tell u all these " internet" lines Obama had put up to help all us poor country folk .... Really wasn't about that at all but does have to do with these huge craft and the plasma orbs that they collect and send back down into the power lines , n then as near as I can tell r routed into the ground for whatever reason, I'm no scientist but , ik what I see
Very interesting stuff. I would be curious to see if this circuit could just naturally manifest electricity from the sky by hooking this circuit's black wire up to earth ground and the red wire as high up into the sky with one of Tesla's atmospheric antennas, and maybe you could even go as far as to make your attenna fractal in nature as well. Everything in this universe is fractal and I truly believe our ancestors knew it and they were harnessing it. Anyone who doubts that free energy exists could be in for a rude awaking to all of this information that has been deliberately suppressed. God bless you for sharing your work. This is some truly incredible research
That is friggin awesome! I had a sleepless night after watching this as to the number of potential applications. Thank you..... Now to go down the rabbit hole!
Future developments ~ fractal capacitor banks to capture lightning in various parts of the world 😁
Rob, it always amazes me the stuff you manage to dig up but this has completely exploded my brain. Thank you once again.
A similar circuit can be used to improve power factor where the intent is to use rectified line voltage to run a DC load. The half voltage will persist between voltage peaks, so current fluctuation will be less if caps are correctly sized. The voltage halver would reduce the size of a choke to get a smooth current ripple.
Robert, putting the website link in the description section would be much appreciated. Thanks.
🐔 📸 Coat a Mylar balloon with graphene paint, connect up a 0.2 mm copper wire coated with graphene, float it up 200 m with helium.
that should give you about 20,000 volts with extremely low amperage.
That setup could be used to kick it down to 208 volts with a lot more amperage!
Very useful indeed! 🐔 📸
cheers mate
oh sure, until you try to actually drive anything with it, and when it suddenly stops after a microsecond of operation I bet you'd be left wondering why.....
Which could theroetically be stepped down with this fractal, multi-capcitor transformer...
Everyone who tries this just puts a copper peg in the ground when you need a powered carbon salted pit to allow enough surface area for a proper ground. You aren't pulling electrons from the air, you're pulling them from the earth and they flow to the higher potential. Tesla used a rotating nickle powder filled coherer spinning at 1000rpm as an interrupter and a capacitor to create AC, then fed it through a transformer to get usable voltage.
A ground ring would work!
25:40 Just in case it's useful to someone doing this with a large number, you can buy packs of 4-pin PWM PC-fan extension cables for not very much at all. These have the same colour wires as used here and breadboard-compatible wire fits neatly into the sockets on either end, if female-female, or you could solder diodes directly between pins on male connectors.
nice tip mate thanks for posting
You are an excellent teacher and I thank you for going to all the trouble you went to in order to illustrate this concept for us CZcams viewers! Ideally, this concept would be best applied not as a circuit board but as a single silicon wafer chip using present day chip technology. That’s the only way I think this idea would ever be economically feasible due to the economic costs of sourcing the components and actually assembling them together on say a production line. But for educational purposes, its brilliant as a proof of concept. As for your greater goal of harnessing environmental energy, I think Nikola Tesla did it with his resonant transformer design at Wardenclyff, which used the whole Earth as a capacitor plate. What you call “electrostatic” is really longitudinal dielectric. It’s a longitudinal standing wave in the Aether, which is formed by crossing two transverse magneto-electric currents at 180 degrees out of phase (as in a bifilar coil or bucking coil) so that they cancel out to form a single longitudinal standing wave in the Aether. On your mechanical rotary spark gap machine, which was creating high voltage impulses, the longitudinal wave is emitted at the discharge point of the spark gap for each cycle. Tesla’s hairpin circuit works in a similar fashion.
Thanx for realizing that people see things from different perspectives let alone ways to see stuff
cheers mate
Fractal is quickly becoming my most favourite word , rather more relevant than people may think ❤
It was my favourite word in the early 90's when I first read about it as the Mandelbrot set. I think there are still video's of fractal iteration with false colours just to 'look pretty'
Yeah, as above so below. Humans have cancerous growths and so human societies have you templar types.
Waoow! Robert it's real something to work on!!!! Thanks! /Mikael
One fly in the ointment, the diodes in the first stage need to handle 1/3 of the charging voltage, dropping to 2/9 for the second stage so the top level stages are going to need some honking great high voltage diodes or diode stacks
is this a common thing? expensive I'm assuming.
An absolute gold mine. Thankyou.
Yet another outstanding video, Robert!
I remember pondering how to do this when studying A levels in 1990...finally lol. I was looking at an ioniser that had a load of capacitors and wondered if you could reverse the process... pity it exploded 😂
This will go down in history as your most important video. Thank you!
Love your enthusiasm.
cheers mate
Neat! I see some battery trickle charge potential, pun intended. 🙂
What a fantastic episode!
oh the dots and the re-arranged schematic really helped , thank you for that.
cheers mate
Wow amazing never thought about that but its really exiting! Thanks Rob
cheers mate
This video makes me want to start a company building these. Inspiring design.
Fantastic as always
It's fun to think about a global network collecting and distributing electricity derived from lightning.
Thank you Rob I guess I now can proceed with my antenna to soil radiant energy harvester.
Reallyy amazing Rob ❤
Always inspiring, thank you.
love to see what its capabilities are.
Robert, A Wonderful. Explanation !
cheers mate
Thank you for making this video
You're onto something, most definitely. This is really exciting, it will be very interesting to see where you take this.
this is just brilliant, thank you so much for this video and incredible explanation
I really want to encourage you to continue, because ...
On a different channel there was a discussion about Fermi's paradox and the hypothesis put forward by SOME people was that one civilization using us all the raw materials (metals / fossil fuels / easily-accessible radioactives / He4 / etc) would PREVENT any successor civilization from developing.
I disagree with that hypothesis because ... NECESSITY is the mother of invention and those civilizations will find a way.
Which leads to the corollary - plenty is the father of inactivity. We haven't invented electrostatic science YET because ...WE DON'T NEED IT (YET). We found electromagnetism, steam, fossil fuels, etc first. Not a lot of motivation to look for more (the fossil fuel people are violently opposing us looking for more so they can stay RICH 😬).
BUT ... any solution for harvesting environmental energy in a meaningful way will be HUGE. After all, that is what a PV panel does - harvest energy that was just lying around. Go outside on a sunny day and there is a kw/sq m to just pick up; it costs nothing once you have the pieces.
I would say that it's better than 90% likely that there is something along this line in the electrostatic "arena" and THAT solution may be as world-changing as the PV panel (and possibly not as inconvenient).
This isn't "perpetual motion" or "infinite energy", it's POTENTIALLY very similar to the "infinite energy" I get from a Renology panel.
The website in question with all the electrostatic devices is indeed a gold mine and is the work of Antonio Queiroz who died last year.
This is extremely interesting. Thanks for sharing.
brilliant mate ! this could get very usefull ! cant wait to see u use it on your free enery devices ! keep up the good work
Everything you just said is soooo above me, yet you can state its use where i get it🥳
Needless to say i saved this‼️‼️‼️‼️
This will probably work WONDERS on a HHO setup, gotta experiment! It never occurred to me to think of this added into the cct. Cheers Rob and thanks mate. It's PROBABLY the KEY.
That's fantastic tech, good job with the explanation..
Lovely lovely work! For sure. But as i watched video i kept expecting the end to show it working. I thought you might hook it up to a power supply and take a voltage reading out of the other end. Not to complain, i just thought it was heading that way and it would be lovely to see.
…or would big oil or the illuminati come knocking at your door? 🫣
The only issue I see with this, is that the high voltage is always sitting on 3 diodes in serial connection. Therefore their reverse voltage treshold (zener voltage) has to be at least 1/2 of the HV input. The current and voltage dynamics during charge would be really interesting to see. For sort period of time, the diodes are doing really crazy stuff, as the holes in PN junction are quite slow. If one diode is faster then other one, the full HV can be observed on any od these 3 diodes which could potentialy destroy it (like what ESD discharge does in some cases). I think the HV rectifiers are already addressing this issue when you try to serial connect them to increase the "reverse voltage protection". Or am I wrong?
The maximum reverse voltage a diode can handle is not the zener voltage.
The zener voltage is the designed voltage produced by a zener diode. Ok, that happens to be a diode in reverse conduction but the point is the zener voltage is applied to a zener diode only and not to other types of diodes.
so minus different types of diodes, assuming the first set from "lightening" size current would need to be bigger, and scale down like would make sense in my mind, are we saying that scaling them down sequentially then, they would have to be with some sort of other scale in mind? @@deang5622
Wow great video and explanations
Brilliant ! TY
Just had a vision of Emmet Brown and a Clock Tower lol.
I love your idea :) please consider tips id like to tip videos like this, can be interesting to see it in large scale to hadne lightning
That was an assume vid Rob. It sparks lots of ideas.
cheers mate
Fantastic video…
Many thanks!
Fascinating!!! I wonder if one could print the fractal network using special inks...
PS...you attire is getting much better
very interesting explanation, but i have a question, since voltage multipliers work with AC or switched DC and not with simple DC, i think that even a voltage down converter like this needs some form of AC input or switched DC. So it would be difficult to convert an output like the one coming out from an electrostatic machine in a switched DC, maybe you would need some kind of mechanical switch to apply high DC voltage inverting the polarity periodically, or chop it (less efficient) to supply the fractal converter.
Nice one Rob.. I like this concept.. maybe you have just given me an idea...! If it works I will let you know..
All the best mate.. 😊
I love it!
Perhaps my American ears. I could not grasp that website mentioned. A link in the description maybe? Links help so much. Thank you Robert. I never miss.
With all those diodes it's surprising that the fractal works out to be more efficient. Presumable the total series Vf of the diodes in any charging path must be lower using a fractal configuration. It would be interesting to compare the diodes charge path in a Cockcroft multplier with the fractal equivalent.
Isn't the absolute voltage of the high voltage limited by the PIV of the first three diodes in series? To increase the PIV, it is usual to put more diodes in series, which reduces the efficiency.
so the first 3 diodes would need to be extreme... or... in massive parallel design?
@@dynamicresistance I have since found some diodes used for microwaves, they are rated with a PIV of 12kV @ 450mA. That gives 36kV input voltage for the first three diodes in the basic building block. ( The Peak inverse voltage limitation makes it necessary to put more diodes in series to handle the high voltage without breakdown, that generally increases the Vf losses.)
My comment on the Cockcroft multiplier was ill judged, as the fractional design is for DC and not an AC supply. The diodes just switching between the series charging connection and the parallel discharge connection. I downloaded the cited document on piezoelectric energy recovery that use the fractal design. The energy losses are associated with the Vf of the diodes, and how many end up in series to get down to the required output. It is an interesting way to get from a high DC voltage at low current, to a lower DC voltage at a higher current. It may be a way to scavenge useful energy from static electricity, such as that associated with aerial space charge.
Very cool.
Awesome.
I like the idea.
Thank you great
Jefimenko has a good book on electrostatic machines
Thank you very much. So fantastic. Links can't read well, but anyway very good work SIR.
That's amazing
Truly great video thanks. WIll watch again later. I would almost bet Mr Tesla himself did something like this and kept it away from public.
Believe that but our government has it and is currently using atmospheric energy as we speak
I have an idea that could totally change everyones perception of energy use and collecting., i love your videos, it sucks how it takes money to get the ball rolling
wanna help me build it?
Explain it. @@michaelking2836
Awesome! How would you go about adapting this to harvest the energy from a dirigible since you don't have any ground line?
This is why Rob Smith is God... Working 4th dimensional with fractals. 🤔 Absolutely Brilliant!
Wow, very interesting setup, are you going to make a follow up video? I would like to some results from testing.
(WOW), another fantastic video Robert. Question. What size Capacitor works best for this circuit? Thanks for sharing.
I wonder if there's a diode ink that can be used, allowing you to print some arrangement on a continuous roll of paper, and roll it back up to complete the contacts between segments.
Very interesting, I've seen the step up ladder arrays of diodes and caps, but not such a scheme/concept for stepping down. As for efficiency, yes it's important, but for atmospheric alectricity perhaps not as important as getting the sharp points up into the air.
Many 1800s photos have such sharp points, spikes and domes, and balls... perhaps we are rediscovering something here, a very interesting 'field' :)
Not the fractal capacitor I was expecting - very interesting.
what were you expecting?
@@TnTOmnibus I was expecting a fractal electrode pattern cap - they have larger capacitance than you'd expect due to the large edge effect. I was not expecting a new power converter topology.
Awesome presentation! Where may I find the Gerber file? Thank you for being such an inspiration!`
I seen your video on Stirling engines and that was really cool the thing I'm noticing as these people making hydrogen for their car it's running off of their alternator which makes the engine work harder which birds up any thing but I was thinking if you put a sterling motor running off your manifold of your - run car and then to make the hydrogen then you could run the hydrogen and then you wouldn't be using any energy except the wasted energy off to the thermostat does that sound right
Thank you for explaining an interesting idea simply. I'm wondering about the capacitor specifications: am I right to assume the voltage across each capacitor is proportional to the overall voltage divided by the number of capacitors - in which case the dielectric will have to withstand at least that voltage. Secondly does the schematic imply the capacitors should be matched. Thirdly would you envisage off the shelf capacitors (ie electrolytics) would suffice?
Fascinating research. I remember when I was working at NASA I saw something about Asymmetric Capacitors producing propulsion, would be interesting if that could be expanded to fractals, maybe something taking high voltage in and producing hundreds of propulsion modules, seems like UFO technology.
Because they had a bank to spend and the muscle to put study into practice.
I believe they should be farther in the collective knowledge obtained.
The reason I believe this is because they're still using combustion rockets.
asymmetric capacitors are very interesting
@@matthewgreen1152 believe ..... That they r much further along in most any field then they will ever tell us, there is very big craft above us, now mind u ...idk how they do it....but they do and I can assure you it's not rockets or jet engines, they also go along collecting " plasma balls " they then unload them down a chute of some sort , n run along our power lines , then near as I can tell they then go into the ground, I would assume they provide some sort of free power, something along the lines of what he was discussing.... It's seema, and there something with plasma ..... There is answers within that whole state of matter, now idk about u , or how old u are but when I was in school they taught there was 3 states of matter, liquid, gases, and solids I nvr even remember hearing the term "plasma" other then within the human body, untill at some point I started hearing about plasma cutters, and I was like wtf, is plasma and how do u cut w it ??? Now years later I heard a scientists talking about a fourth state of matter being plasma.......so asked a friend he claims he remembers hearing about plasma being a state of matter but ik i wasn't taught that, unless it's some Mandela effect... Ig I do remember plasma balls at some point , but nvr had I heard that was a fourth state .... Anyways that new age tree w holding this translucent orb, is more than just some symbol someone thought up .. this is some advanced tech that I imagine was once common knowledge but it has since become, a hidden knowledge that's not passed down to everybody, that's for sure that what these things r .... These translucent orbs AND the trees help hold these things ..... Idk ...lol it's a VERY strange world in which we live in ...... Or so I have come to understand....
Your body is a capacitor to air and a capacitor to ground, its a divider and the ratio is 10 to 1 so if you touch an oscilloscope you get about 24V as we are surrounded by 240V a.c.
Yes .... This is y they want 6g now, to harness our energy... Maybe
I’ve been experimenting with this lately, atmospheric power, I have little currents obviously, I would try this fractal pattern see if I could get more current
do a video and share mate
EXCELLENT 👍🏽
Thank you! Cheers!
I L O V E your channel I just found!!!!
Imagine if we could harvest lightning that would be world changing indeed
Sorry, what type of diode is used did you mention? Does it matter? What would the input and output be could you give an example?
He's very clever I like him 💥💯✌️
Sounds very promising cant wait to see the results
This it for atmospheric energy?
Or solid state nuclear battery?
Do you have to allow for the capacitance in the diode PN junctions in the strings ?
I was totally gonna say you should definitely be putting this on a PCB…but you beat me to it yourself! 🤷🏾♂️🤣
Fascinating, but one thing is not clear to me: you showed the input of the circuit, but where is the output?
I did this experiment with a Wimshurst Machine connected to the high voltage side of a car's ignition coil where the discharge voltage of the capacitors had been depleted. The 12v 4W lamp flickered quite brightly. low voltage side.
also the advantage besides less parts in my design, is that it could well have been something Tesla was able to build with the technology that was available to him back in the day. just two mason jars and 3 coils (2 primary wound together and getting hooked up in reverse order and the 3rd one being calculated out to the exit voltage you wanted, also the voltage going in can be controlled by adjusting the grounding plate closer or further away from the electroscope foils too.
Will you do a video on 3D printers? What do you use, for what purposes and give recommendations!
You have possibly just explained the circuitry of lighting passage from earth to atmosphere!!
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The low voltage result could be used for a 1-transistor amplifier to run from a suitable wire aerial. (or something like that)
did you take into consideration in your circuit of the voltage drop per diode used
Woa man. I'm totally shocked.
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PLEASEPLEASEPLEASE PROVIDE THE JOBA FILES FOR THIS PCB!
THIS IS A LONG AWAITED ANSWER TO AN IMPORTANT PROBLEM.
Thanks for all your work!
I'm fairly Newb to diodes, but might a tunnel diode work more efficiently? Might need a couple of other diodes to prevent a backflow..but more efficient?
0:59 - Did you describe the capacitor voltage division backwards? What's actually happening is that you have equal charge on the two capacitors. If you put the same charge Q on a smaller capacitor, you'll get a higher voltage. Q = C*V; keep Q the same, make C smaller, V has to be bigger. So the larger capacitor will get the smaller voltage, and vice versa.
The charges match because there is no current path to the wire between the capacitors - the only way to get charge +Q onto one of them is to pull that charge from the other one. The voltage source can only supply charge to / take charge from the outside plates of the two capacitors.
Thank you for sharing this, I enjoyed it very much! One question - as the scenario is fractal, does that mean the voltages or currents drop or increase in an exponential way? If so, does that mean the voltage or current ratings of the capacitors and diodes, would have to be able to withstand the full HV or HI input or output directly? I'm trying to see the benefit of this network compared to a Cockroft-Walton multiplier, which is more of a stepped function to get high voltages. Thank you!
You should check the fractal lightning rods. They completely avoid lightnings by sucking the potential difference / static electricity with a corona. They are patented and expensive.