@@ThinkingandTinkering Of course! And you tried it yourself, first -- which is much more honorable than some cruel tricksters or foolish experimenters I've seen. Apologies if I seemed disparaging, but you could probably imagine a "Darwin Awards" sort of pratfal sketch starting that way.
Wow! A drawing of the thing behaves like, and in effect IS the thing itself? Asymmetrical capacitors? NASA? The Biefeld-Brown effect? Robert is opening up some rabbit holes here, and making them accessible to people who wouldn't otherwise be interested in them, all the while hiding behind his good nature and cheery demeanor.
This fella is like the best teacher you never had. I'm addicted to his channels and working my way back through all the past videos. He seems like a spot on lad too 👍👍👍
A friend of mine and I are going to try to turn a high-strength electric bug-zapper (the kind that look like a tennis racket) into an electrostatic speaker using Mylar and carbon powder. Dunno if it's going to work, but we think it will!
Should it surprise us if the diagrammatic representation of a circuit behaves as a circuit if it is made of conducting ink on an insulating sheet and electricity is presented to it? I'm trying to wrap my head around that...
@@ThinkingandTinkeringThat may be, but they don't have don't have high voltage exposed via alligator clips. I mean, you DID warn Luke to 'be careful not to touch these two!'.
Quad electro static speakers 1957 always wanted to listen to them or even own some & I have been fascinated with the principle since I first had a advert in the late 1970s.
9:30 Painful is an understatement. While I haven't been hit with a stun gun, I have been hit by automotive ignition systems. They'll make a man hurt himself and force him to change his pants for unintended wetness.
@@ThinkingandTinkering Yea, I was just speaking to getting hit by the voltage the high voltage power supplies you have would put out. Pretty much the same as an automotive ignition system. Good thing the production earbuds are shielding things well enough so that no one is going around looking like their having an epileptic seizure while using them to listen to music.
as a thruster, esp by the patent illustration, it strikes me as working much like an ion thruster or corona thruster or plasma thruster, whatever they're called properly. where do they diverge in how they work?
I wonder if it would sound better with thinner paper, or if you stretched the paper as taut as possible without tearing it? Perhaps saturating the paper with a light oil? Just kicking ideas around.
I got an ionising ac fan from my uncle wich I took apart. The hv module looks the same as what you are showing. But the electrodes are 10cm apart while running. How does the circuit hold stable then? You can only see a little corona when lights turned off. It is sitting in isolated material so I can’t see this circuit. Love the stuff. You are like a mentor to me 😄👍🏼.
Rex Research has some of T. T.Browns scientific notebooks for free downloads. Brown was who discovered that Capacitors accelerated toward the positive plate.
Electrostatic Head phones are a must for discerning audiophiles. Just look at the shocking price of some of them and then the price of the amplifier to drive them.
My first thought is Electro boom shocking his ear..falling down and weeing himself. I wonder what the effect would be by changing the shape of the pencil's graphite design to a fractal pattern.
For making graphene out of trash, how much power do you think that would require per day, considering the average size of a landfill? Even if you had power with solar and wind, you would need a LOT of extra power (and capacitors) to flash that much every minute. Per metric ton per hour. How many capacitors and power storage (say you used Molten Salt) do you think that would be and what other systems could you use to increase the efficiency, considering the source? Would Hydrogen help out, if for instance you were making it as well (solar/wind/wave), similar to chemical plants using hydrogen as boilers and reclaim any waste heat/energy from cogeneration
Mate, I have a shameless proposition for you. Could you give your input on : Solid Oxide Fuel Cells (SOFC), Molten Carbonate Fuel Cells, And Carbonate-SuperStructured Fuel Cells. These fuel cells work similarly to hydrogen fuel cells, but can use simpler hydrocarbons like petrol/gasoline or diesel or methane and possibly many other hydrocarbons. With higher efficiency than an engine. And the obvious advantage of less mechanical complexity than any engine. But are these real or just gimmicks and impractical?
TBH, I was never that impressed with the 20KV high voltage "stun guns" in terms of deterrence. I stuck one into the meat of my arm and the actual sensation was roughly akin to continuously feeling a small needle driven about half an inch into the flesh. If you weren't expecting it, or were apprehensive because you had seen the effects of real tasers, the sensation would startle and bother you. However, if you weren't either of those things, you could easily tolerate the "needling" feeling at least to the point where you started to suffer actually noticeable burns. I wish I had received a tattoo so that I could better compare the sensations, but from what I have been told there are many areas on the human body where tattooing would cause much more pain. Either way, the feeling isn't enough to compel any sort of behavior from an opponent, even to the degree of dropping something held in the fingers.
- It doesn't make a whole lot of sound" - not suprising, but ... so funny - "earbud" - mini phonograph sized. (Rob's DIY AP channel. - for aspiring London thugs, no need to $t&b when you can $TUn the vict!m...) Jacob's ladder speaker - hmm interesting.
Yes Rob. I’m interested in copying an electrician who made a security system for his van to stop break-ins where you got a shock off the door handles. Not sure what system to use mate, any ideas? @@ThinkingandTinkering
@@ThinkingandTinkering So how would an asymmetric field be shaped to make thrust maybe a partial toroid or an egg shape or some sort of mushroom that exerted a force against the opposite field?
“.. touch somebody on the base of the spine with it, and they’re going to pee themselves!” Where the hell is Luke when you nee him? 😈 5:20 Opportunity missed! Why isn’t Luke at college? 😈
NASA Stole that capacitor design, one of the guy's who is named in the patent did a lengthy interview with the inventor and then less than 2 years later NASA patented it. The effect also works in a vacuum and the thrust is way beyond what ion momentum alone produces, the mechanism still isn't fully understood.
My pleasure pal :) I've been reading all i can on the effect since 2007 and have started experiments in my little shed lab, will post videos if i find anything interesting :)@@ThinkingandTinkering
Oops the stun gun bit may get you into trouble. A bit like others showing how to 3D print a gun. Is there a risk of the paper catching fire with such high voltage?
"Great for a stun gun, let's make an ear bud!" What could possibly go wrong! Great video.
cheers mate you do know they already sell this kind of ear phone right?
@@ThinkingandTinkering Of course! And you tried it yourself, first -- which is much more honorable than some cruel tricksters or foolish experimenters I've seen. Apologies if I seemed disparaging, but you could probably imagine a "Darwin Awards" sort of pratfal sketch starting that way.
i didn't take it as disparaging mate - you are spot on lol - cheers
Wow! A drawing of the thing behaves like, and in effect IS the thing itself? Asymmetrical capacitors? NASA? The Biefeld-Brown effect? Robert is opening up some rabbit holes here, and making them accessible to people who wouldn't otherwise be interested in them, all the while hiding behind his good nature and cheery demeanor.
This fella is like the best teacher you never had. I'm addicted to his channels and working my way back through all the past videos.
He seems like a spot on lad too 👍👍👍
“Using them is stunningly easy” - I can see what you did there 😂
Thank you for another brilliant video
This channel is a Master Class in nerdy fun!
🤓
lol - cheers mate
Awesomeness to beat all awesomeness
lol - cheers mate
You had me at thrust
lol
Who knew the power on symbol actually had a purpose?! NICE!
lol
A friend of mine and I are going to try to turn a high-strength electric bug-zapper (the kind that look like a tennis racket) into an electrostatic speaker using Mylar and carbon powder. Dunno if it's going to work, but we think it will!
i do too! - let me know how you get on
its not every day that you can draw a picture of something, and the something you draw IS the thing. that's pretty awesome.
thanks mate
Should it surprise us if the diagrammatic representation of a circuit behaves as a circuit if it is made of conducting ink on an insulating sheet and electricity is presented to it? I'm trying to wrap my head around that...
I love how amazingly simply you break things down
cheers mate
An ear bud that will make you fall down and wee yourself if you touch the 2 wires while listening! LOL
you do know they already sell this kind of ear phone right?
@@ThinkingandTinkeringThat may be, but they don't have don't have high voltage exposed via alligator clips. I mean, you DID warn Luke to 'be careful not to touch these two!'.
I almost expect a button on his mug to enable a speaker that says “Caffeinate! Caffeinate! “ in the Dalek voice.
lol
😂 I'm imagining someone wearing those as the final product. Hahaha ... I'm very tired 😴 Super cool concept! Thanks for sharing Rob!! ✌️
cheers mate
Excellent video Rob! 👍🏴🇬🇧
cheers mate
“Touch them in the spine & they’re gonna fall down & wee themselves!” 😂 I almost did just that without any electrocution after tht comment!
Quad electro static speakers 1957 always wanted to listen to them or even own some & I have been fascinated with the principle since I first had a advert in the late 1970s.
they are pretty cool
Just noticed the Darlek mug. Cheers from across the pond!
cheers mate
Those devices are also great for making hand held electrostatic flocking machines for model making and many other things.
"Stunningly easy to use" 😆
punning easily to appreciate - nice one mate
“Those are the ones you stick into people” Loved that line 😅
lol - cheers mate
4:52 It can't be just me that imagined grabbing a shovel and and start swinging.
Fascinating stuff though
Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. And yet it's so simple
for sure mate
could turn out to be a shocking pair of headphones
You know you have to make a stun gun now.
Wait, is that even legal to do without a manufacturing permit in UK?
i don't know
Very cool
cheers mate
9:30 Painful is an understatement. While I haven't been hit with a stun gun, I have been hit by automotive ignition systems. They'll make a man hurt himself and force him to change his pants for unintended wetness.
Lol
you do know they already sell this kind of ear phone right?
@@ThinkingandTinkering Yea, I was just speaking to getting hit by the voltage the high voltage power supplies you have would put out. Pretty much the same as an automotive ignition system.
Good thing the production earbuds are shielding things well enough so that no one is going around looking like their having an epileptic seizure while using them to listen to music.
you are dead right mate
Had second watch because I love the subject.
Hehe, they are putting a stun gun up to their ear.
you do know they already sell this kind of ear phone right?
wow those caps on that motherboard in opening shot are cooked!
you do know it is a library picture from pixabay?
interesting, will you make a video about Dan Ludois or marc gendron electrostatic motor with this Kv generator?
Very neat! I don’t have a 3D printer that can print multiple filaments, I wonder how a 3D printed version would work?!
The advertisement before the video was some free energy device
ok - not in my control
in future they will tattoo that shape on your eardrum with a tiny battery and wifi to connect to the network
now there is a terrifying idea!
It would be interesting to see a bigger one with a 3d printed case.
i may have to make one lol
Have you seen the ionic thrusters that plasma channel and Integza did, using the bigger high voltage Module?
as a thruster, esp by the patent illustration, it strikes me as working much like an ion thruster or corona thruster or plasma thruster, whatever they're called properly. where do they diverge in how they work?
Have you tried building a Graviflyer and getting it to function?
Very cool, BUT you are only working with one half of the audio signal, due to the high voltage osc. You probably thought of silver paint?
I wonder if it would sound better with thinner paper, or if you stretched the paper as taut as possible without tearing it? Perhaps saturating the paper with a light oil? Just kicking ideas around.
it is mate - i tried it - i also painted then on a tight cellophane skin - thy work well
I got an ionising ac fan from my uncle wich I took apart. The hv module looks the same as what you are showing. But the electrodes are 10cm apart while running. How does the circuit hold stable then? You can only see a little corona when lights turned off. It is sitting in isolated material so I can’t see this circuit. Love the stuff. You are like a mentor to me 😄👍🏼.
oh wow - cheers mate - it's because the amps are in th nanoamps region
Rex Research has some of T. T.Browns scientific notebooks for free downloads. Brown was who discovered that Capacitors accelerated toward the positive plate.
i think that is ionic wind mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering not in a vacuum. Take look at the notebooks.
Electrostatic Head phones are a must for discerning audiophiles. Just look at the shocking price of some of them and then the price of the amplifier to drive them.
cheers mate
bit of clear tube to not bend down work?
Can you reverse such circuits to turn that speaker into a mic? What do you call a reverse capacitor? I'm trying to make sense of it.
yes
I wonder about teh circuit in 7:23. Should the base of the transistor be grounded?
it is grounded - or rather returned to negative
That would be on the list of banned weapons possession of which is a crime.
you do know they already sell this kind of ear phone right?
@@ThinkingandTinkering But not stun guns in UK.
Is that an actual lutec sitting on the table??
Guessing you could reverse it and make a pressure switch?
My first thought is Electro boom shocking his ear..falling down and weeing himself. I wonder what the effect would be by changing the shape of the pencil's graphite design to a fractal pattern.
you do know they already sell this kind of ear phone right?
For making graphene out of trash, how much power do you think that would require per day, considering the average size of a landfill?
Even if you had power with solar and wind, you would need a LOT of extra power (and capacitors) to flash that much every minute.
Per metric ton per hour.
How many capacitors and power storage (say you used Molten Salt) do you think that would be and what other systems could you use to increase the efficiency, considering the source?
Would Hydrogen help out, if for instance you were making it as well (solar/wind/wave), similar to chemical plants using hydrogen as boilers and reclaim any waste heat/energy from cogeneration
no idea mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering
Good answer Robert!
I'm still reflecting on your Fractal Capacitor tutorial
Mate, I have a shameless proposition for you.
Could you give your input on :
Solid Oxide Fuel Cells (SOFC),
Molten Carbonate Fuel Cells, And
Carbonate-SuperStructured Fuel Cells.
These fuel cells work similarly to hydrogen fuel cells, but can use simpler hydrocarbons like petrol/gasoline or diesel or methane and possibly many other hydrocarbons.
With higher efficiency than an engine.
And the obvious advantage of less mechanical complexity than any engine.
But are these real or just gimmicks and impractical?
TBH, I was never that impressed with the 20KV high voltage "stun guns" in terms of deterrence. I stuck one into the meat of my arm and the actual sensation was roughly akin to continuously feeling a small needle driven about half an inch into the flesh. If you weren't expecting it, or were apprehensive because you had seen the effects of real tasers, the sensation would startle and bother you. However, if you weren't either of those things, you could easily tolerate the "needling" feeling at least to the point where you started to suffer actually noticeable burns.
I wish I had received a tattoo so that I could better compare the sensations, but from what I have been told there are many areas on the human body where tattooing would cause much more pain. Either way, the feeling isn't enough to compel any sort of behavior from an opponent, even to the degree of dropping something held in the fingers.
tbh they already sell this kind of ear phone
The writers of Back To The Future should have had one of these in their DeLorean.
lol
I remember seeing a Canadian professor show amazing effects from an asymmetric transformer
Any thoughts ?
In a sense all transformers are asymmetric mate - i don't really understand what you mean
@@ThinkingandTinkering ahh. Let me try to find the source. It’s been a while. Maybe I got my ideas backwards
Is this Electro-Boom approved?
lol
- It doesn't make a whole lot of sound" - not suprising, but ... so funny - "earbud" - mini phonograph sized.
(Rob's DIY AP channel. - for aspiring London thugs, no need to $t&b when you can $TUn the vict!m...)
Jacob's ladder speaker - hmm interesting.
lol - go for it mate
Haha. Try this Luke. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ. This must be similar to electric fence for animals.
you do know they actually make these for sale right?
Yes Rob. I’m interested in copying an electrician who made a security system for his van to stop break-ins where you got a shock off the door handles. Not sure what system to use mate, any ideas? @@ThinkingandTinkering
So you make a capacitor like the electrostatic lifter?
no - this used fields not ionic wind
@@ThinkingandTinkering So how would an asymmetric field be shaped to make thrust maybe a partial toroid or an egg shape or some sort of mushroom that exerted a force against the opposite field?
“.. touch somebody on the base of the spine with it, and they’re going to pee themselves!”
Where the hell is Luke when you nee him? 😈
5:20 Opportunity missed! Why isn’t Luke at college? 😈
NASA Stole that capacitor design, one of the guy's who is named in the patent did a lengthy interview with the inventor and then less than 2 years later NASA patented it. The effect also works in a vacuum and the thrust is way beyond what ion momentum alone produces, the mechanism still isn't fully understood.
cheers mate
My pleasure pal :) I've been reading all i can on the effect since 2007 and have started experiments in my little shed lab, will post videos if i find anything interesting :)@@ThinkingandTinkering
Hmmm, plasma physics. 🧐
no - it's electrostatics mate
@@ThinkingandTinkering yes getting ahead of myself for a moment😅
Not sure I want 10Kv in my ear in the wet and rainy UK!
well at least you would have something between your ears mate lol - i joke - you do know they already sell this kind of ear phone right?
Here
awesome
Oops the stun gun bit may get you into trouble. A bit like others showing how to 3D print a gun.
Is there a risk of the paper catching fire with such high voltage?
Yes, was thinking the same thing!
no the voltage might be high but the amps is in the nanoamps
Are they Bluetooth enabled ?🤔
lol
Hi hope you did not give the bad people silly ideas. 👍🐝🌞
bad people always have silly ideas they don't need me
@@ThinkingandTinkering that’s true, 👍🐝🌞