5 NFL Hall Of Famers Who Don’t BELONG...And 5 Retired Players Who SHOULD Be In It...
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- These retired NFL superstars belong in the HOF these 5 don't!
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Steve Young, Kurt Warner and James Harrison are among the prime examples in that it’s now how you start, but how you finish. Just because you didn’t light it up early in your career, it doesn’t mean you can’t re-write your story as a feel-good late-bloomer tale.
But the problem is, late bloomers are few and far between. But it hasn’t stopped several NFL teams, fans and analysts from maintaining belief in certain guys that have underwhelmed for a while now.
Here are 10 NFL players that, put simply, it’s time to give up on.
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100% Sterling Sharpe should be in the HOF
Agree
Sterling Sharpe should be in the Hall of Fame over Andre Reed. Consider the following blind profiles:
Player A: 3 Time First Team All Pro. 3 Time league leader in receptions. 1 time leader in receiving yards. 2 time league leader in receiving touchdowns. Has a receiving triple crown. Has 2 100+ reception seasons that were both records at the time. Was the first receiver to ever have back to back or multiple 100+ reception seasons. Has 5 1000+ yard seasons. Has 4 10+ touchdown seasons. Has career highs of 112 receptions, 1461 yards, and 18 touchdowns.
Player B; NO First Team All Pros and 2 Second Team All Pros. NEVER led the league+ in receptions, receiving yards, or receiving touchdowns. Had 0 100+ reception seasons, 4 1000 yard seasons, 1 10+ touchdown seasons. Had career highs of 94 receptions, 1312 yards, and 10 touchdowns.
Clearly player A was substantially better. Yet, player B is in the Hall of Fame and player A is not. Player B is Andre Reed and Player A is Sterling Sharpe.
This year Sharpe made it as far as the cut to 12 in the senior pool and there are 3 senior spots again in 2024 and 2025. I’d hoped that this year’s senior class would be Ken Anderson, Sterling Sharpe, and Chuck Howley. Glad to see Howley make it, am totally cool with the Ken Riley pick, and am disappointed that Joe Klecko was picked over Sharpe and Anderson. My 2024 senior class would be Anderson, Randy Gradishar, and Sharpe. Sterling Sharpe should absolutely be in the Hall of Fame. My gut feeling is he will get in in time. But, it’s sad that Reed got in over him as a modern candidate when it’s obvious that Sharpe was better. TBH, I wish what was done for Sam Mills last year in getting him in his last year of modern eligibility so that he won’t fall into the senior pool abyss had been done for Sterling Sharpe in his last year of modern eligibility.
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@@michaelsloane9955bro u wrote a whole essay
@@michaelsloane9955Fred Taylor was 3 times the player Curtis Martin was but Martin is in the hall but Taylor isn't SMH
I honestly think roger Craig should be in the hall
It's ridiculous how every '70s Steeler gets in but the 49ers of the '80s get "but they played for Bill Walsh, with Joe Montana and Jerry Rice."
Yeah Roger was the first every player to get over 1000 rushing and receiving yards in the same season.
No question about it.
I don't think Craig belongs in the Hall. He was a good player, but even in his era there were better backs. he only had 2 really good season and the rest were average.
Most Definitely
Bob Hayes averaged 20 yards per catch on 371 career catches and scored 71 times. That efficiency is unbelievable
True but look up Hayes' playoff stats. His stats were not good in the post season. He had one game in a 1967 playoff game when he had over 200 hundred total yards. But, he definitely changed coverages in the secondary.
@@MrAmbassador11Dude 7000 yards before 1978 is amazing he was so good they came up with the zone defense cause he was that fast besides that watch him play you will understand he is in the hall of fame for a reason. When you are so dominant that teams needed to come up with an entire new defense system you deserve to be in the Hall of Fame case closed.
@@tufstuff2586 I didn't say that Hayes didn't belong in the HOF. The point I was making is that he probably didn't get in earlier because of his lack of production during playoffs games. That is taken into consideration when voting. I know what he meant when it came to revolutionizing defenses. He was a lethal weapon. I thought he should have been in prior to when he was inducted.
@@MrAmbassador11 Dan Marino didn't do good in playoff games.
But he got in, right? Lots of players in the HOF didn't exactly break any records in playoff games. I'm not singling out Bob Hayes.
the fact that sterling sharpe isn’t in the HoF is insane
Probably because he retired before turning 30, either that or he only played 7 seasons which is kinda short
@@BoltPin_05he broke his neck
He was forced out by unfortunate circumstances
@@BoltPin_05longevity shouldn't matter. They made an exception for Terrell Davis who only played 4 healthy seasons, 7 total seasons, so why not do the same for sterling?
Sterling Sharpe should be in the Hall of Fame over Andre Reed. Consider the following blind profiles:
Player A: 3 Time First Team All Pro. 3 Time league leader in receptions. 1 time leader in receiving yards. 2 time league leader in receiving touchdowns. Has a receiving triple crown. Has 2 100+ reception seasons that were both records at the time. Was the first receiver to ever have back to back or multiple 100+ reception seasons. Has 5 1000+ yard seasons. Has 4 10+ touchdown seasons. Has career highs of 112 receptions, 1461 yards, and 18 touchdowns.
Player B; NO First Team All Pros and 2 Second Team All Pros. NEVER led the league+ in receptions, receiving yards, or receiving touchdowns. Had 0 100+ reception seasons, 4 1000 yard seasons, 1 10+ touchdown seasons. Had career highs of 94 receptions, 1312 yards, and 10 touchdowns.
Clearly player A was substantially better. Yet, player B is in the Hall of Fame and player A is not. Player B is Andre Reed and Player A is Sterling Sharpe.
This year Sharpe made it as far as the cut to 12 in the senior pool and there are 3 senior spots again in 2024 and 2025. I’d hoped that this year’s senior class would be Ken Anderson, Sterling Sharpe, and Chuck Howley. Glad to see Howley make it, am totally cool with the Ken Riley pick, and am disappointed that Joe Klecko was picked over Sharpe and Anderson. My 2024 senior class would be Anderson, Randy Gradishar, and Sharpe. Sterling Sharpe should absolutely be in the Hall of Fame. My gut feeling is he will get in in time. But, it’s sad that Reed got in over him as a modern candidate when it’s obvious that Sharpe was better. TBH, I wish what was done for Sam Mills last year in getting him in his last year of modern eligibility so that he won’t fall into the senior pool abyss had been done for Sterling Sharpe in his last year of modern eligibility.
@@michaelsloane9955 i’m not reading all that.
Bob Hayes' speed is what brought about the concept of zone defense. He changed the game.
I like it💯
He's faster then a speeding bullet and it's Bullet Bob Hayes super bowl champ and Olympic Gold Medalist
@@ryaneugenelawrencewalls1987 🏃🏿♂️💨😮💨💯
Yup🫵🏾
You are 100% correct! Literally this dude is just going off analytics. Lord please help my young generation and the ignorance that flows through them.
Just because Lynn Swann had no 1,000 yard seasons doesn't mean he shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. He also played in an era when there was more running than passing and before the West Coast offense was used more than less.
It's been said for years he shouldn't be in the hall of fame and he still doesn't. You're way wrong lmfao
Bro he's only there because the Hall of Fame is a popularity contest
@@guyinthecomments6217 He's there because the 70's wasn't a time when passing wasn't as common, stats like that would've been perfect for the hall of fame at that time even if he doesn't get 1,000 yards in a season.
@@guyinthecomments6217 80% of the 80's 90's 2000's WR could not have made the impact that Lynn Swann and John Stallworth Made. The 70's Were Brutal. That's goes for the QB's too! Terry Bradshaw is the G.O.A.T. Brady is Dan Pastorini if he plays in the 70's! The Steelers MADE THE NFL. WITHOUT THE Steelers Players the NFL wouldn't be as Great as it is Today. Isn't not about the Stats!
Terry Bradshaw shouldn't be in. He's an average QB at best. But because he played for the NFL's darlings, he gets in. Put him on an average team and he'd never even be considered for the Hof
L.C. GREENWOOD SHOULD BE IN THE HALL OF FAME
Jim Marshall!!! Yes, finally someone other than Viking fans wondering why he isn't.
jim marshall nowhere close too being a hall of fame he was a nonfactor in big games
Randy Gradashar linebacker and heart of the Orange Crush defense of the 70's
Randy Gradasshar should have been a first ballot hall of famer
Well, he's in...finally. Now we just need to get in Louis Wright.
I'd go with Rich "Tombstone" Jackson before Wright.@@varthelm
@@airforceveteran71 Fair, they are both worthy. Still giving it to Wright first but the debate can be had. Tombstone was the Clubber Lang of his day :)
You show how young you are by slamming Swan and Smith. They were great.
Lester Hayes deserve be in the Hall of Fame
One of the best corners.He is long overdue.Makes me think something shady is going on because Lester is one of the best corners to ever play the game.
Reggie wayne should be in the hall of fame
I agree as well
@@LiamDeegeme too
@@allthingssports4957 I'd like to see him, Devin Hester and Julius Peppers all make it next year.
@@LiamDeege Hester is a lock
He may have to wait a little bit since they let Harrison in
Fred Taylor deserves to be in the HOF
I agree as well considering Tony Boselli just got in last year and it'd be good to see more players from the newer franchises be inducted.
Prrrreeeeaaaaccccchhhhh
@@johnsonyacinthe7950 ?
Yeah. He does. That's my worry with Frank Gore. Somebody that busts their ass for as long as they did deserves recognition, number of 1k seasons non withstanding
@@lukeyarasheski5510 Frank Gore could be 1st ballot in 2026, big chance considering he's the 3rd leading rusher of all time.
Ben Coates was the Gronk of the 90s. He is constantly overlooked year after year. Its sad that he will probably only be recognized after passing. 5555 yards, 499 catches, 50 tds, in 158 games. 5x probowl, 2x all pro. And has a superbowl ring with the 2000 Ravens. His stats are comparable to ozzie newsomes.
If Terrell Davis made the h.o.f so should Sterling Sharpe
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Don’t know how in the hell Terrell Davis made the HOF.
I imagine it has smthg to do with promoting the league. Joe Namath would fit this explanation as well.
@@daniel6771 He in the HOF because he had one of the greatest peak a running back ever had. In a 4 year span he made 4 1k seasons, 3 pro bowls, 3 all pro, 2 super bowls, super bowl MVP, League MVP, and 2000-yard rushing season. I'm sorry but peaks matter in the hall of fame. Don't believe me ask yourself this if Patrick Mahomes had a career ending injury right now would you put him in the HOF. Of course you would, the same thing applies to Davis and Sharpe.
Steve Tasker deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. He made special teams special.
Fred Sanford are you Crazy, you big dummy !
Definitely Jimmy Smith....862 catches, 12,287 yds in 11yrs with Jacksonville, after not playing for Dallas for 2 yrs. That's 1,117 per year. 5 seasons made the playoffs, with 2 AFC title game appearances.
Not a Jags fan but I agree with you
I agree Jimmy Smith is one of the most underrated players of all time, he was really difficult to stop. Somebody get him and Fred Taylor ASAP into the Hall of Fame.
Playing in Jacksonville hurt both Smith and Taylor. Out of sight, out of mind.
@@KevinT7274 Agreed
Yes
Patrick Willis should be in the Hall of fame.
Harvey Martin, Ed Too Tall Jones, Charlie Waters, Everson Walls, Hollywood Henderson should all be in the HOF.
No way for Henderson.
@billallen8998 You're crazy. The best linebacker ever.
Andre Johnson should be in HOF
Absolutely 💯
He was better than ALOT OF the receivers IN CANTON
He had draft busts n camp arms his WHOLE CAREER and still put up amazing numbers
Let’s also not forget his crazy brawl with Cartland Finnegan if you all know what I mean. 😂
Agree but Torry Holt should get in first. Or both at the same time but Holt should get higher priority.
@@kennethbryant6697 I agree Holt first then Andre.
He was great!
Thank you for giving Jim Marshall his due💜The epitome of a football player
I Remember. The Purple People Eaters. 😊
I can describe Jim Marshall in one word that Bear Bryant would describe a great player, STUD
I’m glad that you recognized Ken Anderson. The other Bengal Ken, Ken Riley, deserves to make the Hall also.
Ken Riley got inducted this year
@@danramirez4122 Thank you. I didn’t know that. It’s sad that he was inducted posthumously
@danramirez4122 Now let’s get Ken Anderson his spot in Canton. 🙂
-Words of a Steelers fan
Compare Anderson's numbers to Bradshaw's, Anderson's career rating was 83 compared to Bradshaw's 71. Anderson also had a much better TD-INT ratio. Put Anderson on that loaded Steelers team and how many SB wins would he have?
Ken Anderson's injuries hurt him but he was clutch
Reggie Wayne and Torry Holt even Fred Taylor all three of those guys they deserve to be in for real without a doubt
Agreed
Karl Mecklenburg. 6 time pro bowler, incredible linebacker, and the leader of the dominant Orange Crush defense of the Denver Broncos. He dominated as a pass rusher and a linebacker, which made his stats interesting, but there is no doubt he belongs in the hall of fame.
It be cool seeing him as well to be honest. 🙂
Karl Mecklenburg belongs without question. I must correct you, it was the great Randy Gradishar who lead that mighty "Orange Crush" Defense
It’s a crime that Karl Mecklenburg is not in the Hall
Namath made the AFL matter. He made the merger matter he belongs in the hall. Lynn Swann was a better WR then Stallworth. Lc greenwood is not in the hall and should be.
Swann wasn't better than Stallworth....more acrobatic catches for sure but Stallworths numbers smoke swanns....
If Namath belongs, then Jim Plunkett belongs twice over. I am a Raider fan and personally, I don't think either one of them should be in there. Both were atrocious for the most part, just managed not to be so interception prone and suck in the big games and Super Bowls they did win. That alone doesn't make them HoF worthy.
As a browns fan Swan always made me throw something at the TV
@@michaelanderson6290 When you make a League relevant you belong in the Hall. Pluckett got lucky in 80 and Marcus Allen ran over everyone in 1983.
@@jimmackey6110 haha I can relate. Raider fan here...and he ate my lunch plenty.
The fact 2 steelers greats that changed the game for Wide receivers with their style of play and being clutch in big games are on this list is beyond me.
Holt better than both of them
@paulmoss3242 I don't disagree, but it was a different era
@@paulmoss3242 They all belong, maybe next year Holt will make it.
Those Steelers wideout contributed to NFL history. A different era, but that’s when players didn’t care for stats, just simply playing the game.
I agree on Swann,but Stallworth belongs. You just can’t use numbers from that era. As Steeler fan,for the record,I don’t believe Hines Ward is worthy either.Stallworth is the only one that belongs
Like Coach Prime said 'It’s people who changed the game. That’s what the Hall of Fame is, a game changer. Not, ‘I played good, I had a good run, I gave you 3-4 good years.’ And I absolutely agree with him 💪🏿
Neil Smith deserves to be in Canton.
He was very very good and is long overdue
Fred Taylor deserves to be in the hall of fame hands down
Swann the best receiver in the decade of the 70’s. He belongs.
Drew Pearson had better numbers and he was denied HOF until 2021. Criminal. Stallworth was actually the better Steeler WR - just not as flashy.
I also want to add that Bob Hayes was very good for his time and numbers in that era were not bad and not common for most receivers in the 60's and early 70's.
@ LiamDeege-ip8fp
I completely agree with all your points. Honestly, if you say otherwise you are hating on the groups of players that made the NFL. I guarantee that if these people didn’t play or didn’t make and impact, especially Bradshaw, then there is no Brady or Mahomes or Moss. The USFL would be more popular then the NFL, and your favorite sport would not be the same at all. People like Brady looked up to the greats from the 70s like Bradshaw because that is the era he grew up in as a kid.
@@nicholasstraw4553 People are just not taking things from historic standpoints which is what I do most of the time when I see stats from players like Hayes and other receivers who played in the 60's and 70's. Just because they played in an era when passing wasn't a common factor as it is now and stats are not as they would be now doesn't mean they can't get a spot in Canton.
Sterling Sharpe not being in the hall is the WORST
Players like Swann and Stallworth, who definitely deserved induction into the Hall of Fame, played in a completely different era. Take any of these receivers you think are so much better, put them in an era where DBs and CBs could literally throw them to the ground before the ball arrived, and see how "Great" they are. It is completely idiotic comparing current-day WRs to what their forebearers had to deal with. Granted there are many WRs who simply outrun all defenders and no one gets a hand on them but for a large portion of receivers they have to deal with the opposition's defense every last play and as any fan of the NFL knows, "Pass Interference" is now and will always be a judgment call. If you at TPS are going to release these types of vids slamming some of the greats across any team at least give an honest comparison rather than saying guys like Swann and Stallworth have no place in the Hall when those you are hyping up never dealt with the level of defensive adversity these men, and others in the same era, had every single play.
I agree the only way to measure them is how they stacked up against their current peers. TPS might be right about Swann as his pro bowl nods might indicate
Lynn Swann got in the Hall because he made couple of acrobatic catches in the Super bowl these is why it took them so long to get in his peers knew the deal
I was pissed as I watch the video, but then I read your review and felt much better! The season shore back in the seventies too, wasn't it? They won four super bowls, they deserve to be where they are! Gaudy stats don't impress me nearly as much as how a player performs in the clutch,
Players like Hines Ward, anquan boldin and currently, Mike Evans are like that, those are the kind of guys did I respect the most, stallworth & Swann were both clutch players and a big reason why Steelers won those super bowls.
@@mikeschmelzer9733 I agree with you, the fans today are too biased towards this era and they think that stats for their time in the 60's and 70's can't get you in the Hall of Fame but those stats were groundbreaking stats for receivers in that era before the West Coast Offense became a thing in the 80's and 90's.
@@LiamDeege Totally agree with comments I am reading...these guys played with different rules (favoring the DBs)...most (if not all) offenses were more more run first, pass if you can...and the number of games per season was much lower. Swann and Stallworth deserve the HOF nod.
Randy Gradishar, Karl Mecklenburg, Rod Smith deserve HOF recognition.
Randy Gradishar? Absolutely. Karl Mecklenburg? He's very close and was a dominant pass-and-rush specialist and played a key role in Denver winning 3 AFC titles in mid/late 80's, but was he that same fearless, insane, on-field brash defensive leader that Tom Jackson was for so long for 14 seasons. #57 was the living, frightening co-embodiment of the Broncos "Orange Crush" late 70's defenses, along with Lyle Alzado, but because he played so well for so long, he was the bridge player between two great eras of Broncos football, and he was the heart and soul of those defenses. I didn't get that same vibe whenever I saw Mecklenburg perform. I saw it on display all the time from guys like Steve Atwater, Steve Foley, Tyrone Braxton, Champ Bailey, that fire, determination, rabid enthusiasm that was infectious and spread to the rest of defense.
Mecklenburg was a very good player surrounded by defensive players who were maybe a little better then him, accomplished more then he did and because most of them had larger-then-life personalities, I remember noticing them a lot more and unfortunately, being inducted into Canton sort of involves being noticed and celebrated and over-hyped a little bit more from MSM outlets then your peers. I don't know if Mecklenburg ever came close to having enough of that attention compared to guys like Howie Long, or many of his other teammates.
A HOF voter said that his criteria is whether the era a player played in can be discussed without mentioning that player. In order to counter the speed of Bob Hayes, the zone defense was invented. I would think that if a defense that is still widely used today was invented to counter a single player, they belong. He had speed that was unknown in the game at that time as a gold medal winning sprinter. Tom Landry and Tex Schramm are in the HOF for the kind of bold thinking that led to ideas like putting the fastest man in the world on the field.
That’s interesting to read about the HoF voter. It just makes me think about Manning Big Ben and Rivers upcoming eligibility. You can’t tell the story of one without the other two and it’s impossible to write two out of the history of this era. Actually all 3 since the impact of Brees moving to NO. Plus they all have near identical top 10 all time stats. But I guarantee only one gets first ballot. 🤔
@@King_kami36 Eli and Big Ben each have two Super Bowl wins. Eli has two Super Bowl MVPs also. But the rest of Elis career is only above average. Both will be interesting. I don't think that Rivers has a chance though.
I disagree. Swann and Stallworth belongs in the Hall Of Fame. They played big on the Big Stage and came up big in the clutch. Hands down they belong in HOF.
Based on that criteria A LOT of players should be in the hall then.
So that means that Eli Manning is a Hall of Famer?
@@nanya524 Sure why not? He could make it by 2025 at the very least as a 1st ballot.
Yes. He's a 2 time Super Bowl Champion. And he beat Bill Belicheat, The New England Cheatriots and The cry baby marcia brady TWICE!!! He belongs in the HOF!!!
Swann & Stallworth are in there based on their performances in the playoffs & The Superbowl so basically that means Julian Edelman should qualify.
SF RB Roger Craig should be on that HOF list
if he hadnt fumbled in that Giants game he would be...
@@davidharrison9324 Damn! I forgot about that🤦🏽♂️
Maybe he will someday far from now.
@davidharrison9324 it doesn't matter, he should still be in. He was the original double threat RB who can run and catch for 1,000 yards in a season
@@dominiquepitts9125 yep! And, helped to get to 3 Super Bowls
TPS once again making surface level videos after skimming through a few stats? Shocker. Swann and Stallworth are absolutely HoFers in the context of the era they played, the teams they played on and their incredible post season success and highlights. Comparing numbers from a time when DBs were allowed to take WRs heads off to modern times is silly. There is far more that goes into it rather than just pure numbers and for their time they were an elite pair of receivers that were especially good at the most important aspect of football, making it happen in the post season and winning rings.
So compare Swann and Stallworth with WRs of their era. Compared to Harold Jackson, Harold Carmichael and Cliff Branch; Stallworth is about equal with Jackson and Carmichael, Branch has better numbers than Swann. Swann and Stallworth got in early; the Veterans committee had to put in Branch and Carmichael. With S&S, it's all about the rings. The fact that Swann is in Canton and LC Greenwood isn't is a joke.
@@tygrkhat4087Got in early ? Swann had to wait 20 years to get in, and Stallworth had to wait about 15. Swann and Stallworth were the most dangerous pass catching duo in the league at that time, and Swann was the most dangerous deep threat in the league. And he was tough enough to go across the middle. And if you want to go just by numbers, compare Swanns to Branches in the post-season. When it really counts. It's not close.
@@benjammmin7180 You've got your opinion, I've got mine. But you can't deny that Swann in and LC Greenwood isn't is a joke.
You cannot compare todays players to the 70s. it was a tougher league in the 70s to pass the ball. Lynn and John numbers are great for the 70s era player
And for most of the 70's a 14 game reqular season. That skews the numbers.
The disrespect to wide Receivers who played all or part of the time prior to 1978 is old. As a reminder, prior to 1978 defensive backs could still make contact after 5 yards from the line of scrimmage. Lot harder to catch the ball when the defensive back can crawl over you.
Between 1970 and 1977 with 3 fewer games, there were 14 total seasons with 1000 yard receiving. Will all the rule changes opening things up, 2022 alone had 22. Prior to 1978, game was much different.
Real men played in the 70's, these idiots like Brady, who the league and Goodell along with his referees made sure that the rules were changed to benefit and protect precious little Tom Thumb from getting touched lol. Brady would've never survived the 70's period!!!! Goodell always helped Brady due to his man crush on Kraft!!!! To quote Jack Lambert; "quarterbacks should wear dresses!' More so today for sure!
Sterling Sharpe should definitely been in the HOF
One major criteria for how consideration is having a major impact on the game, which Bob Hayes, Swan, and Namath all did.
Sharpe led the NFL in yards once, it was TDs twice and catches 3 times
Sterling Sharpe if you take his career and compare it to any other receiver in the HOF from beginning to forced retirement, he beats all receivers statistically except for Jerry Rice in that same time frame. If he wasn't forced into retirement due to a catastrophic injury, he would've played longer and won a Superbowl as well. This isn't rocket science!
The game was completely different prior to the 80s when offenses started to open up (Niners west coast offense & Dan Marino breaking records). Prior to 1978, it was a 14 game schedule. A lot of offense was heavily relied on the run game than pass. Also, defenses were allowed to clothes line & grab receivers all the time making pass catching difficult. Stuff that would be considered a penalty today.
If players like Swann, Stallworth & Namath played in the NFL for the past 25 years they’d have way better stats than the eras they played in. They’re HOFers for a reason.
@soverst.5839 Exactly. Just because their stats wouldn't be as Hall of Fame caliber today doesn't mean they shouldn't be in, their stats were really good for their time in the 60's and 70's. This is why when I take the GOATs of each teams in my opinion, I take everything from a historic standpoint and not go all no brainer on certain teams.
Lynn Swann absolutely belongs. His stats were depressed by the presence of John Stallworth, Franco Harris, and Rocky Blier. He was ridiculously talented…a better receiver than Drew Pearson, whom you have already noted as being a HoF WR.
I have a feeling Tyler Lockett of the Seahawks will face similar controversy if he gets in.
i always thought that swan and pearson were the same style . Drew pearson had to bitch and moan to get in the HOF and i think Swann did to . I think Swanns bitchin got stalworth in the HOF too
@@user-mq8qp1ll5l : That’s a perspective. Many people thought the Steel Curtain carried the team, but I have a problem with that perspective. A defense can only do so much. An offense has to put points on the board for a team to consistently win.
Put it this way: is it better to have a great defense and a weak offense, or a great offense and a weak defense?
Mind you, the 1970s Steelers were good in all three phases of the game, but I’m using these extremes to make a point.
I say the latter. It’s extremely difficult and rate for a defense to put score an offense. If you want to win games and have to pick between one it the other, opt for the track meet.
The best defense is a good offense!
Swann, pearson, stallworth had 6000 or 8000 yards apiece in a career. Thats why the NFL hall of fame said they suck . I remember that now . plus tony Hill was dallas 1st string reciever not pearson. I liked them , I thought they were badder than leroy brown @@DeCurtaRican
No way was he better than Drew Pearson. Take away two flashy catches, in the SB, and his career is very unimpressive. Stalworth was better than Swann
Namath is in the HOF due to his influence and impact in the AFL.
I agree with you that Sterling Sharpe should be in the Hall of Fame.
Did anyone else notice that every single player they said shouldn't be in the HOF all played in the 1970s?
Indeed. And unless they were watching from then to know, I doubt they could understand just how different the game was back then. Different era's with different rules = different stat-lines. Players of the 70's should be compared to other players of the 70's to see where their worth lies, not players from different eras.
Orange Crush era LB Randy Gradishar is decades overdue for induction.
Harvey Martin still holds the unofficial sack record of 23 sacks in a season. He was a Super Bowl Co- MVP, and on the All Decade Team. He has more sacks than Fred Dean who is in the HOF.
Agreed
Tory holt deserves HOF
Lynn Swann most definitely belongs in the HOF I guess you never saw this guy play he sacrificed his body to the team. You have to remember back in the seventies receivers were fair game its totally different now you had defensive backs who were going to end your existence case in point Jack Tatum taking out Darryl Stingley forever. I think you need to watch some more film son.
PREACH.. It's all about stats no substance. Stallworth and Swann were 2 of the Best All around teammates let alone 2 of the clutchest Receivers They were Great and literally were among the Best playoff Superbowl receivers of all time.
PURE SUBSTANCE GAMERS!
Sterling Sharpe was neck and neck with Rice BEFORE he got Favre catching passes from Don “Magic Man” Majkowsky
Also the NFL pre 1980 B.C & B.W(Don Coryell & Bill Walsh) was 70% Run 30% pass. Then came the West Coast Offense. So you can’t neglect guys like Swann, Stalworth, Biletnikoff, Paul Warfield, Marlon Briscoe and others as they had fewer chances. With the Steelers Franco and Rocky were getting the rock the majority of the time unless play action, period.
Good point on those steelers receivers.
I don't get what Ur saying about Sharpe, who I believe should! be in HOF.
I agree that Jim Marshall should be in the Hall he played until he was forty years old, and his numbers showit.
Great call on Sterling Sharpe for his 7 seasons of work. If it wasn’t for that other guy in San Francisco being ridiculous during that same timeframe, he would be the most dominant WR of that time.
Stanley Morgan should be in
557 catches for 10,716 yards 19.2 yards per catch and 72 touchdowns on Patriots teams that weren’t particularly pass happy
One of the most underrared and overlooked players in NFL history.
Love your video TPS and keep up the great work
Sterling Sharpe should be in there over multiple receivers
When you mention Terrell Davis got in the Hall. Mention that Elway had no rings before Terrell Davis and that Davis was the driving force behind the two Superbowl rings he has.
Good video!! Excellent call about Sterling Sharpe! If Terrell Davis is in, then Sharpe should be in there too.
NO QUESTION🤧💯
Yeah it’s highway robbery that Sterling Sharpe is not in .. it was a legit debate who was better between him & Rice during the 80’s
Agree on the debate but wasn’t the 80s Rice was drafted in 85 and Sharpe 88 and he didn’t really breakout till 90 season so 90-95 is when you had Rice Sharpe and Irvin shredding DBs in the NFC
@@waldogreen late 80s / very early 90s lol tomato Tamato .. I honestly don’t think Irvin deserves to be in the same sentence as Sharpe & Rice tho respectfully.. Irvin was good but Sharpe was so different & Jerry was a machine
@@MrHumble22 no completely agree just added Irvin cuz those are the three most remember from that era Irvin was the product of a great team whereas Rice was a machine like you stated and Sharpe was extremely talented and athletic if not for his injury he prob be top five in most receiving stats especially with the emerging Farve.
The Ken Anderson love is awesome. I think he deserved to go into the hall a long while ago.
Usually it takes WRs time to get in. Only a hand full have made it in on first ballet. Torry Holt will eventually get in. The Steelers wide receivers played in a different era when the football was run a lot more so they deserve to get in.
Jackie Smith was a ferocious blocker as well. One of the best TEs ever, and absolutely belongs in the HoF. His 16.5 yards per catch is better than Gronkowski.
Devin Hester NEEDS to be inducted
He's a lock
Why?
@@onekoolmedic bro's the greatest returner of all time and he changed the league a bit too
How do you knock Swann for only making 3 Pro Bowls but say that Jim Marshall should be in with only 2 Pro Bowl selections
Marshall also played for 20 seasons which is tied for the most all time by a defensive player along with Junior Seau and Darrell Green.
Keep up your fantastic videos, God bless you
Wilber Marshall should be in the HOF. He was the best linebacker on the 85 Bears then won two more in Washington.
Those WRs from 70”a played in a different era
First of all, players should vote for the Hall of Fame
Terrell Davis shouldn’t be
In that case, Eddie George
Ricky Watters
Roger Craig
I love Eddie, but he doesnt have the longevity and he has too many seasons with below 4.0 ypc
These 3 were never MVP.
TD was SB and regular season MVP.
And he got 2000.
But Eddie has more yards than TD and played longer
Suggestion: five best and worst draft trades in the past ten years
Torry Holt getting rejected from Canton the last two years is a crime.
Unti Rice appeared. Lynn Swann was the clutches playoff WR of all time. He was always consistent in the playoffs, specially in the Super Bowl.
Do a video on 5 rookies that will go off in 2023 and 5 rookies that will disappoint.
Lynn swan belong tps and stallworth
Fred Taylor and Jimmy Smith need to be in the Hall
as a fan of the N.F.L going on 60 years I try to find things about your videos to argue with mostly for my own entertainment, but i have to admit this is in my opinion the best video from you without question. Fantastic job!!
Every NFL Season's Weakest Division since 2002.
James White should go to the hall of Fame for what he did in the super bowls
And maybe Edelman
True I hated them
Pats fan since I was 6 in '85 White and Edelman are 2 of my favorite Patriots of all time but neither one of them are hall of famers
Hated the Pats…but dude was Playoff Elite
No. Hall of Fame is for being the best of the best at least during your era. White was a great role player not an elite back
Lynn Swann was 1st string play in 4 super bowls.
He belongs in the Hall of Fame.
"Bullet" Bob Hayes revolutionized how defenses covered WRs. That's something that should be considered that wasn't even mentioned in this video.
Greatest tight end in every NFL franchise's history.
Jesse tuggle deserves to make the hall of fame!
Awesome player and is well deserving of being in the HOF.
The problem with Tuggle is that at the time most teams ran the 3-4 defense and every team had a good pass rushing outside linebacker. Very difficult to separate the good from the great. Same with 5-11 wide receivers. In the 1980's every team had several good ones.
@@billallen8998 I appreciate your input, however Jesse tuggle was a middle linebacker / right inside linebacker his entire career. I’m afraid tuggle won’t make the ball of fame because most of his falcons teams where aggressively mid.
@@-GloryGloryToOlGeorgia an inside linebacker in a 3-4 defense does not get the recognition because he shares his duties with another inside linebacker unlike a middle linebacker in a 4-3
@@-GloryGloryToOlGeorgia there is not one single inside linebacker from the 3-4 defense in the Hall of Fame nor is there a nose tackle in the Hall
Ricky Watters, Eric Allen, Darren Woodson, Sterling Sharpe, Torry Holt, Fred Taylor, Asante Samuels, Hines Ward, Andre Johnson, Jimmy Smith (Jaguars), James Harrison, Rodney Harrison. Should be in the Hall of Fame
Eric Allen 💯
Carl Banks should be in the hof
I think Drew Brees deserves to be in the Hall of Fame
He will be after a player retires they have to wait 5 years to be eligible to go into the hall
I think players have to have been retired at least 5 years before they're eligible for the Hall, but I'm sure he'll be a first ballot Hall of Famer.
He'll be a first ballot in 2026 guaranteed.
He not in yet because he's not eligible yet.
When he's eligible, he'll be in.
Definitely a first ballot though I won't be surprised when I hear his name 3 years from now.
Jim Plunkett should be in..
Negative...his first 9 years in the league he was not very good.
It's called "Hall of Fame" not "Hall of Statistics". Besides the fact that Namath was throwing for over 4000 yards in an Era where you were considered a top flight passing team if you topped 2500 yards, no one and I mean no one was as famous and beloved while he played as Namath was. Similarly, Lynn Swann. He just happened to be the most prolific and exciting receiver when it counts...the playoffs.
Only 14 games in the season, and he passed for 4,000. That was normal for that era.
Lynn Swann should be there. When you are an integral part of winning 4 super bowls in 6 seasons, you deserve to be there. Clutch catches in play-off games and super bowls, (see super bowl 10) he definitely deserve it!
I think holt should go in this year, other retired players who should be in, he didn’t have the numbers but he left a lot of influence on the game Joe theisman, Jake Scott, Joe Jacoby, & maybe Phil simms & boomer esiason, Phil Simms was a top 15 QB of his era. Another guy that’s passed on been passed on for 37 years is Jerry smith tight end for the late 60s early 70s redskins.
Its been suggested or rumored for the longest time that one of the reasons Jerry Smith's career achievements or his HOF candidacy has been marginalized, forgotten somewhat or maybe intentionally overlooked is because he was a closeted homosexual at a time when NFL and American society was rampant with homophobia, hatred, and discrimination towards players or coaches that were even rumored to be gay. He never officially came out, publicly except to his family privately in 1981 after he had retired, living in Austin, TX running a restaurant/bar. He died of AIDS in the mid/late 80's and one of his fellow closested gay Redskins teammates revealed he was gay after his death and his name was knitted into the AIDS quilt in Washington D.C.
@@davidroberts7282 it’s so uncalled for though even though very religious people don’t believe in that stuff. You can’t overlook his greatness that he had when he was on earth, he was imo better than John Mackey and I’m a Peyton manning fan so I grew up watching the colts win with manning and obviously I grew up and watched him his final Super Bowl, Mackey I never got to see play cuz I’m only 28 but heard a lot about him, and you don’t see the Naismith basketball hall of fame holding out future inductees like Breanna Stewart who’s already hall of fame bound same with Elena Della Donne or actual player that will go into the hall Diana taurasi. That’s what just ticks me off is ok you got minorities in the football hall of fame put Jerry smith in its not wrong to put someone who was closeted and didn’t come out until his death bed in my uncle is gay he doesn’t watch football but I can tell you if I told him this and showed him this dude’s numbers he’d be like wtf.
Priest Holmes & Cam Chancellor deserve to in the hall
They will likely make it at some point in the future, maybe not now, but I see Kam Chancellor making it there first.
Joe Namath. shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame. Has a career win loss record of 62-63,, threw for more interceptions than touchdowns in 11 out of 13 seasons, had a career touchdown to interception ratio of-47, and competed barely 50% of his passes. The different era argument doesn't fly because guys from the 60s-70s era like Staubach, Tarkenton, Starr, Dawson, Unitas and Ken Anderson all had positive touchdown to interception ratios and in some cases substantially so while all had completion percentage above 54%. And Super Bowl 3 had nothing to do with the merger. The merger was announced on June, 8th, 1966, 2 and 1/2 years before Super Bowl 3 was even played. It's a disgrace that Namath is in the Hall of Fame and the more deserving Ken Anderson isn't.
The disrespect towards Roger Craig is unreal only one of his 11 seasons he get less than 400 rushing yatds and his last four seasons he got less than 400 receiving yards and oniy had 42 fumbles in 11 seasons that's impressive
Mcnabb and Nick Foles ofcourse shoulb be in the hall :)
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5 years after he retires nick foles definitely should I mean the Eagles should have lost after Carson got injured but they didn’t that’s definitely hall of fame worthy in my opinion
I agree mcnabb should be in hof
Nah… They belong in the Eagles 🦅 HoF tho
@@MrTee12 "As the Eagles' starting quarterback from 1999 to 2009, McNabb led the team to eight playoff appearances (including five consecutive from 2000 to 2004), five division titles (including four consecutive from 2001 to 2004), five NFC Championship Games (including four consecutive from 2001 to 2004), and one Super Bowl ..." 6x Probowls, 12 years in the leauge, identical QBR 85 to both Marino (86)and Moon (80) both of which didnt win a Super Bowl either. All three around 59% completion rate over their careers. There can definitely be made an argument thet Mcnabb should be in.
Julian Edelman BELONGS in the Football Hall of Fame...fact....only Jerry Rice has more playoff receptions than Edelman... the prosecution rests...
That’s fax
@@rae5r: Did I bring up those 5 other stats... I said PLAYOFF RECEPTIONS... besides Jerry Rice...who else has MORE PLAYOFF RECEPTIONS???
@@rae5r many great great receivers don't have Edelman s post season stats...
@@rae5r Jerry Rice played 19 playoff games?
@@rae5r: seeing that Edleman caught ALL THOSE POST SEASON PASSES...I'm certain his TD total would be much higher...EXCEPT that some guy named Gronkowski was the tight end and he was a BEAST in the red zone... ALLLLLL those receivers you may think are better than Julian Edleman... well only Jerry Rice...who ALSO played with a great quarterback named Joe Montana did quite well for himself and ONLY HE was better in the post season!
*Troy Aikman* has average stats (even with a Great O-line, Emmitt , and Irvin, Harper)… NO HALL OF FAME for him!
He played like average because the Cowboys had the kind of offense the Giants and Ravens run mostly these days, more running and not as much consistency in the passing game.
This is a perfect example of rings don't equal hall of fame
Billy Howton retired as the all-time leading receiver of his generation with 503 receptions with 8459 yards and 61 TDs. He caught 13 td passes his rookie season, He is more deserving of the Hall of Fame than Bob Hayes, and Lynn Swann. Billy is still kicking at the age of 93. Help Him get in to the HOF.
There are many players in football and baseball that were on track to be in their Halls but did not make it due to injuries.
Swan and Stallworth played in an era that run the ball more and defense was more important than the offense. Stop the Steeler hate.
I agree, people are too biased towards the modern era receivers all because stats are not the same from the 70's where we only have guys that retire within the 5,000-6,000 yard range in receiving.
Just because a player played before 1980 doesn’t mean they’re not a hall of famer. Wanna know why guys like Bob Hayes, John Stallworth, Lynn Swann, Jackie Smith had very limited receiving and reception totals compared to today? Because they DIDNT THROW THE BALL BACK THEN. Roger Staubach finished near the top of the league in passing one year with like 2,200 passing yards! Keep in mind some of these guys played during the days of 14 game seasons. Yeah, it’s a travesty that guys like Torry Holt aren’t in the hall when they’re better than guys like Swann and Stallworth, but that doesn’t make them unworthy of a Canton induction. Just because Namath had bad stats, it doesn’t overshadow what he did for the AFL NFL Merger. Is he the best qb ever? No, not even close, but he’s definitely earned his spot, same as everyone else. Some guys may not be as deserving as others who are in or not in, but being in the hall of fame is not an accident, no matter the varying degrees of stardom
In my humble opinion, Otis Taylor, Lee Roy Jordan, and Charlie Waters should be in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Plus there wete a whole bunch of AFL players like Cookie Gilchrist who should be in there as well.