Do You Have Marco Polo Syndrome?
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Marco Polo Syndrome. The idea that you are going to be the first person to discover a place. You will meet a ton of expats in China with this trait, and they will often find tiny little cities to call their own. They often feel challenged or anti-foreigner when confronted with the fact that they are not the only ones there. Today we talk about this in depth.
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hey long time fan, sorry to her about the current political situation in china atm must be such a drag. i feel like ive watched most of your videos so sorry if youve done this before but can you do one on shoplifting, i understand pick pocketing is rampant but is it te same with stealing from shops. please shot me out if you decide to do a video
Too late because I subbed back in 2010 and never unsubbed, so, oops? Then, it's China Vlogger. History in China, Winston style!
Check out cmilk old one as well ;)
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lol Winston so casual as his friend drowns.
You can tell he was wearing the shoes he cared about.
Definitely miss these bike rides
It was the reason I subbed
I surprise all my Chinese co-workers with knowledge and observations you guys have shared over the years
I like the "Road less travelled" format
Well done!
How does this sound? "Don't kill black people, for now"
fair
''You cant predict the future'' is the most stupid excuse i've ever heard.. is it even an excuse? or does he not see anything wrong with that statement?
R. DB Technically it isn’t worse, but practically it is. That’s because the media never covers it, they only care about “white privilege” or “white supremacy”.
Ignore the haters - just carry on doing what you are doing - each of us has a choice to subscribe or not - Keep it up!!
Thanks for peppering in those clips from South Africa. It's a hard thing to talk about, but if you let people at least see it they will understand. Nobody believes it until they see it with their own eyes.
Totally agreed. I had no idea that kinda shit happens in africa. That is one messed up country.
Nationalist China and South African blacks are aligned in a lot of perceptions
The globalists are doing absolutely everything they can to suppress the truth, but people are still waking up czcams.com/video/a_bDc7FfItk/video.html
thanks to lauren southern for bringing the boer situation in SA to the rest of the world, no matter what you think of her it needs to be seen
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Talk about the Boer wards or the apartheid and suppression and oppression of native South African whose land was robbed by the white European.
The road goes very well with the buildings.
I think a lot of people don’t realise that you’re basically a business, they don’t like it because you’ll charge to see certain videos etc.
You’ve gotta make a living somehow, good luck to yous both.
I appreciate you inserting some most clips about the political situation in South Africa. Most people are rather apathetic or ill-informed about what's going on in ZA.
This is the quality content I subscribed for.
G Man 😂👍🏻
lmfao....like you pay for it or something. Dont take some kind of credit cowboy!
As an expat in China, I appreciate what you do! I first came to China eight years ago and completely migrated here four years ago. I discovered your videos last year and I look forward to watching every video. Keep up the good work!
My first trip in China was 1994 and I still appreciate your good videos. The negative comments on your blog are made by jealous or envious people because they didn’t have the guts to do good and honest videos (pros & cons) like you are doing both of you.
I've watched a lot of your videos over the past year or more and I have never heard you guys claim to be experts. I was never led to believe you guys were experts and the main reason I love your videos is because you come across as two very normal guys sharing your observations and adventures in China. Let the haters hate, you just keep doing your own thing!
Having lived in rural China and Beijing for a few years, I really appreciate your videos covering some of the less covered aspects of China, especially coverage of more rural locations.
Completely agree that many Chinese from big cities have not been to a lot of the rural places you visited in your documentaries.
Will continue to watch your videos.
I love what you two are doing. I first discovered SerpentZA from Collin Abroadcast's Fake Yeezy store video when it was trending, which made me watch more of his videos until one featured SerpentZA and that led me to here. China is such a foreign country and mysterious to me that I love that you two explore and show what it is like to live there. Never stop what you guys are doing!
Chicken Biscuits that’s the same video that got me hooked on ZerpentZa and eventually C-milk as well!
I'm an "old guy" expat Aussie and I've been here for almost 5 years now. I am definitely NOT like one of those other "old guys" you described. Winston's videos are part of the reason that inspired me to move to China. It was going to be for one year and now it's five. Not sure if I can stay longer because of the strict visa laws now. But I love your videos, because they really do show it like it is, both the good and the not-so-good. Keep 'em coming, and ignore the haters. Haters will hate no matter how much common sense or facts you try and drum into them. The problem is within themselves, not with you guys.
So did you move back to Australia?
I have followed your videos for the past 8 years .I think you have done a a great job at showing China its good and bad light. But as with any place to fair you will see the good and bad. I started out watching serpentza about 10 years or so ago and have been follow guys ever sens. I went to China with my wife in 2006 she was born in Qingdao and fell in with it. I just wish I had been able to watch all of your videos before I gone. so I want to say thank for all good work you two have done and be safe.
Empty high rises along with Winston and C-Milk fighting wet crappy roads. Classic ADV China.
There's a kind of expat one-upmanship in Taiwan, and it looks to be much the same over there. Foreigners here are often not friendly to one another, often deliberately looking away or pretending not to see other foreigners in the street, even in places where foreigners are not common. Online expat communities are often cancer. I always called the phenomenon Robinson Crusoe mentality, but Marco Polo syndrome describes it aptly as well. Whenever I find myself criticizing another foreigner's Mandarin, I always remind myself that I've never actually listened to a recording of myself, so I might be even worse.
People become expats for different reasons and they all think that their reason is fine, but in reality most expats think they magically found a paradise on their own and were somehow special in that regard. Once someone else shows up, the attention gets divided until expats become "normal". Once they're "normal" then it isn't special, or a paradise.
We're weird.
(but think about it... if we LEAVE somewhere to have a certain lifestyle, and then more and more people show up from where we left, then the new place becomes like the old place.)
True.
much love to you guys for actually telling it how it is, keep up the great vids. Lived in China before and have to say in my opinion you guys are spot on
the drone footage at the end is surreal
May I make a suggestion?... Make a video about those houses and buildings that are falling apart. I have a hard time believing these were only 5 years old, so I would like see why I should not invest in China's Real Estate or perhaps come to manage them. Keep up the good work and don't let yourself be influenced by those who don't understand the good you are doing.
that is next weeks video
Meanwhile, a number of houses here in Stockholm that people live in were built in the 1600s. The foundations of a number of other houses in Stockholm are from the 1300s. (The oldest building in Sweden that people live in is from 1240, located in the World Heritage city of Visby, but that was a storage facility, remade to a house not much more than a 100 years ago)., Sorry, but the source is in Swedish: www.avestatidning.com/artikel/allmant/har-finns-sveriges-aldsta-hyreshus The house I live in is just 15 years old. It feels "new" to me.
Winston hasn't bought a house and doesn't plan to because the houses their fall apart in few years.
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Why would you want to burn your money in China's house anyway? China has the biggest housing bubble ever.
It's an easy question and a complicated answer. For starters commodity prices dropped and fell through the floor. They were investing in them before the crash of 2007. The state demands 7 % growth rates, and the norm is 2-4%, driving up inflation yet wages remain stagnant. Confucious ideas very much exist in China despite the communist revolution, and it is a caste system. The Maintenance business is not driven by free market prices, never has been and the wage for the cooli is determined by the state to control inflation even further. Their's lack of trained maintenance people and shortages due to outlawing guilds and unions.
I am also interested to understand if there is some kind of widespread mentality that allows poor work to be done. Do the Chinese tend toward a "good-enough" attitude or any other general work ethic problems? I consider Chinese business and products unmatched in the world market place, with China doing things that are untenable anywhere else. And I have heard that president Xi is interested to overcome stereotypes and usher in an age of technological advancement and quality. This begs the question. Are quality and effort taught at home in China? How much does the majority of China care about it's output?
The amount of determination in the the mud and trying to learn culture,language, and making videos, etc.. is all so f-ing awesome that many folks are just jealous of y’alls accomplishments 👍🏼
I give you guys a lot of credit for being unfazed by haters and people simply looking for a rise. What I like about your channel is that you talk a lot about the negative aspects of living in China WITHOUT sounding like a chronic complainer. But after all the crap you've put up with from both China's policies and from its critics, is it still worth it to live out your future there?
I'm glad you ask them this question. Because if it was asked by a Chinese, they would accuse you as ultranationalist or wumao.
From where I sit, I find that the two of you are not only two of the coolest people, you are inspiring and very entertaining. Thank you for doing what you do because it is awesome!
I dunno what all the fuss is about. Your videos are great ( only found you guys recently and I'm binge watching you like a box set of some old sitcom ) and I've suddenly got a load of new music faves on my spotify. Stay awesome!
That villa is the epitome of the saying "They don't make 'em like they used too" - Think of the Great Wall - LOL
Well, I personally LOVE you guys! You are doing the things that I am exactly interested in! I want to see the shops, the streets, the views, the buildings, the people, the food, everything! I watch every video from all the channels. I think you are great, and just know that in my friend groups of professionals and travelers; we view you very highly!
I learn as much from the drives and the roadside scenery as your conversation while driving, which I think is a great format.
Holy shit what a waste of money on these buildings.
Frank Winkhorst
DW sugarcoats many things, this is just one of them.
the jobs being created get a minor faction of the capital investment, the ones organizing the build an taking everyones money are the only ones getting rich. The laborer just makes ends meet, an the investor gets shit at the end of this, cause the property is worthless. The entire thing is a scam that everyone just plays along with.
BTW are all these buildings built by goverment or private companys? I can imagine only a goverment would waste a vast amount of money to build something and would not even care of the quality control? It looks like they are build from shit and sticks.
these are priviate house the owers built by themselves or people they hired, not from government or official construction company. cost not too much so the quality , you know........ from a Chinese with poor enlight.haha
Winston, up to his axle in water and mud, "Oh, this is annoying." - that's so restrained :-) - followed by Matthew - "Oh s**t."
Sorry to hear about the grief you guys get. As an expat living in China, I always look to forward to every Monday to see what you guys come up with; it's usually pretty informative.
Both of your vlogs, which I came to independently (most likely as a result of youtubes algorithms, but clicked on by me) have been really helpful to me. Its the sort of information I want, not just a wikipedia paragraph with little context. Keep it up!
Maybe that water will fix Winston's tachometer.
This reminds me so hard of the good old ADVChina getting in trouble on bike days.
Love your videos. The thing that is striking watching them is the disconnect between the urban looking landscape and the almost empty roads you drive on.
A trend over the last few years is that no matter how well done a video is someone has to give a thumbs down or say a discouraging word. Iv'e been to China a few time and I like your videos!
Wait what? This is up 6 hours and no real hate comment? No one posting big words in capital letters? Pityful! I am unsubbing!!!!!1111 Nah ;) Keep up the great work guys.
DISESTABLISHMENTARIANISM!
You guys are basically off-roading at this point. I was kind of hoping for c-milk to fall in lol.
China’s gonna have a housing crisis on their hands soon enough. That villa is just another in a long line of examples. The only thing they house is squatters.
Great video, keep up the good work, guys.
They were there falling apart last time I was in China, aweful build quality... even Vietnam foes way better
Dudes - your ranty videos are the best. They contain great little insights, like Winston's final observations about not intending to learn Chinese. Pure gold. Both you guys are great.
For what it is worth I really enjoy watching everything you guys do. I'm 62 years old and partially disabled. Although I have had many adventures in my lifetime none of them involved living in another country. As I get older I really regret that I didn't see more of the world and now it is difficult for me because of my limited mobility. So, that said I live vicariously through your adventures and the adventures of a couple other vloggers in Thailand. Chances are I'll never get to China or SE Asia and the National Geographic sort of travelogues are just not how I would like to see the world. As a former motorcyclist your bikes add another level that is fun to watch (I was actually struggling as you tried to get your bikes through the mud LOL). OK. I've tugged on your jacket enough now, but I wanted to thank you both and please keep it up where ever you go.
Thanks,
Steve McV in the USA
Some people wind up old and on thier ass full of regret, and thus angry at the world.
When you live thier dreams that they talked themselves out of for one reason or another, it can make them very angry and hostile towrds you!
I am going through the same thing, I sold everything, bought a boat and I am setting off to see the world.
Some people have said a lot of really harsh things about this trying to tell me I am throwing my life away.
I have never been happier.
I'm in an interesting dilemma. Love your content but getting a bit tired of the negative content. Look at your videos like / dislike ratio - a lot of people really love your content but it seems like you focus a bit on the negative. And I get it, you guys have talked about so much of the positive stuff in the past but for us new viewers (last 1-2 years) we would love some balance back. I want to see both the great and ugly sides of China and now it seems you covered a lot of the great stuff so there's only the ugly stuff. Maybe some updates on the things you thought were great?
Yeah! The man is right! Just continue talking positive and continue your footage while someone beats you, hits you, shoots you or while sinking in the mud. It should'nt be that hard! It's your fault! Not theirs! Wear boots next time! You have to say the vilage looks nice, regardless what the footage shows!
Nik Walker or maybe regular people who are not trolls are actually getting tired and annoyed by all the negative videos. There’s not that much of it a person can handle.
You want the truth? or more powder on your ass?
It's a fair point, but maybe it's the situation. Lived in China myself 2004-15 and it really wasn't as much fun by the end and there certainly seemed to be more negativity towards "foreigners". Still the best of times though. Haven't been back since 2015 so i couldn't comment on how it's changed since then, though from afar things seem to be regressing.
Wel then fuck off. If pointing out reality which isn't all sugar butterflies and rainbows is something that bothers you stop watching it by all means. Go find a fantasy that suits your need to escape reality.
I love how y'all kept your cool while going through that mud. Just kept on vlogging. As a small CZcamsr I get a lot of haters sometimes, and it can be quite discouraging. But, you know, it's the internet. No matter what someone is gonna dislike you, someone is gonna disagree and someone's gonna be crazy. Can't let it get to ya. Just keep doing what you do.
I love what you are doing. These videos are intellectually honest and very refreshing. Thank you please do many more.
Not hating, but imho everybody that lives in a country for a longer period (>3 years) and/or is planning to stay there (you both are married to a chinese and at least winston doesn't seem to want to go back to south africa at any point) should get as proficient as possible in the local language. My english is sufficient for everything i do, but if i'd live in an english speaking country i would still propably turn to a professional to work on my accent (even though it is virtually non-existant compared to many others) and try to further expand my vocabulary. just my two cents.
Nobody cares if you think that foreigners should get super "proficient". Youve never done it yourself, you havent grown up in it. Winston is right when he says that it is enough to speak and read everyday language as long as youre not interested in ancient poems and shit. Whats the point proving your new neighbours that you perfectly speak their language? Youll be a foreigner to most anyway. Theyll never accept you 100%, youll never be one of them. Heck, not even your child will be 100%. Speaking 2 or 3 languages from completely different language-trees is not easy, its tiring and its not very common, thats why its ok not speak perfectly and seriously nobody cares if you have an accent or miss a vocab or two. So to this point it is just nationalistic idealistic nonesense youre thinking. grow up.
Most folks can't get rid of their accent because secondary languages learned after 4 or 5 years of age are learned in a different part of the brain. That part of the brain cannot identify accent while speaking.
Charlene Sipp sounds like the voice of experience. Living in Korea, everyone expects that i can barely speak korean. When i do i either get patronizing compliments or people think it just coincidentally sounded like korean but must be english (?)
I'm learning the language for fun but if you can order food, ask about simple problems, take taxis and give directions etc, you're good. You never NEED to discuss abstract stuff and even if you do most people will not take you seriously. I have a friend who's fluent in Korean, been here >10 years, works in a job using only Korean. He is still just peoples' "foreign friend" that they lose interest in when the novelty wears off.
C-Milk's mandarin (I forgot his real name) is better than probably 98% of the foreigners who come to China.
Ramon Burgos that is just not right! Anybody can get proficient at any time. The "Critical period theory" is rejected by almoust every linguistic researcher, there is just no empirical data for saying there is this one right age to learn a language. On the contrary, grown ups learn better, because the can enhance their implicit learned language skills with explicit learned grammer rules etc.
Are ALL those villas empty?
Nah squatters live there
Yes they're uninhabitable! They are found everywhere!!
china doesn't have so much money. They have tons of debt liablities. Some companies use the same "asset" to go to different banks for loans, then they sell the asset! There "shadow assets and shadow liabilities" all over.
Chinese also don't build things to last. New apartments start to crumble and break in less than a year. Just because they have tons of housing doesn't make it livable or lasting.
When you set conscription to "Volunteer Only", and you have 0 recruitable manpower
YOUR vids, plus Vivi and Prozzie's are the reaaons I feel confident in planning my first trip to Asia. Really intrigued by the lifestyle, food and economic advantages of traveling to Vietnam, but you make China (especially Southern China) feel so accessible. Lots to think about to plan this adventure!! Keep posting, all of you on your separate and collaborative vids, they are a help!
Your channels are fantastic! They're honest and accurate whilst being very informative. Many people will be jealous of your success.
Keep it up guys. I love watching your channels. 😁
Yes sir, you guys really know how to have a good time.
The people who said your Chinese was not good enough only because they have never tried to learnt a foreign language before, and they don't know how difficult to learn a foreign language.
I can't stand the haters. You guys do the best videos! It was a good point about the initial awkward feelings when you find a foreigner coming into your area for the first time. But it's refreshing at the same time to find someone you can share experiences with! I've made quite a few friends in this way when I lived over there.
Also, everyone should be getting behind the vlogging and youtube phenomena. I love your videos showing behind the scenes views of China. Your documentaries provide fascinating insights into China. They make me want to come back to China and explore more!
You guys and your vlogs are awesome. Those who think otherwise can go elsewhere. Stay awesome and a big thumbs up to you!
Great video, good fun. I've checked out some of the other China ex-pat vlogs, and can't find any that I will consistently go back to, (boring) and then some others who have left China for one reason or another, like Haley's channel. Poppy and Travelight have had good content about China, but they are more touristy and their channels are not always about China. You guys live there, and the quality is consistent. Even watching you get stuck in the mud.
I literally discovered this channel yesterday, and have been binge watching them since then! Great videos guys, love the conversation and the scenery. China really is a fascinating place. Keep up the good work!
Seriously, the comment section is what makes a lot of your videos so much fun. I will NEVER understand why people watch videos of people they don't like or why they feel compelled to make negative comments on video after video after video. As a casual youtube user, I find it highly entertaining.
I like your content and topics. They are very often quite informative. But at least speaking for myself, I hate those long videos like this one. Information that could be summarized in 5 minutes takes 20 minutes to watch. As someone who is interested in China and someone who has lived there and still trying to understand their culture and life there, I would prefer a much shorter and to-the-point format. Just some feedback.
I'm actually completely the opposite, whilst I am listening to what they're talking about, I'm also enjoying the scenery and looking at where they're riding... And laughing at them trying to take street bikes through a pond!
I do ride bikes too, so I guess I do pretty much the same when I go out and about on a random ride, I just don't take youtube along with me.
I actually found ADVChina first. I didn't have a serious interest in China, but was enjoying the riding. Now I follow all their channels and Vivi and Hu Knows and have learnt a hell of a lot about China.
Steve Evans I agree with you, I prefer the longer videos. I like to wash the dishes or something and just have them on in the background.
Yeah I prefer long ones as well which is more beneficial than watching a one-time movie. At least you are connected with people and interacting through comments and live feed, and you can see what other people think as well.
*THANK YOU BRO FOR THE REALLY INTERESTING VIDEO. I LOVE YOU*
I was one of the first 10 teachers to be sent to work in public schools of Yeosu, S Korea. In a language blackout, learning ANYTHING about how things work there were hard won when there were almost no prececessors. So hard won, that foreigners would get the new foreigner drunk in his first few days arrival, put him in a cab late at night, tell the driver to take him to the next town with no money, drunk and stranded. The types of experiences you have as an expat are just the kind of thing I like to write about, and wish I had known ahead of time. THanks, guys, I really enjoy seeing for myself in the vlogs.
Fellow expat here and you guys have great spot on commentary. Love it. Subscribed.
I got lucky to find you guys a few months ago stay Awsome.
One of the most interesting episodes so far! Those motorcycles were an effort and a half haha
I stumbled upon your videos a few weeks back and I just love them. As a historian and a general sociologist enthusiast I like hearing about first hand account from other parts of the world. China seems to be a place where it was so hard to get information on. And your videos are good, you go out and show the countryside or the streets, etc... some vloggers just talk about their experience while sitting in hotel room.
It helps that you guys are intellegent as well and just stick to what you've seen and experienced.
Great content as always. As a recent expat of four months, I just want to thank you guys. Your videos have aided be significantly over last few months, and I know they'll continue to help me for many months and years to come. You tell the truth about China, yet also are so positive about it. I love your positive vibes and it has helped me accept and understand a few of the customs and quirks over here. Really hope to meet you both one day :)
FWIW, the two of you are my three favorite channels, followed by those of your wives. The root of all the shite from the native English speakers has to be just plain envy - the green-eyed monster. You're doing things they aren't and can't and it galls them to see you do it and do it well. I and (obviously) thousands of others are glad you're out there showing us things that most of us will never be able to see for ourselves. BTW, I think I have a couple of spare snorkels if you need them for the next ride...
These early expats may also sense that a few foreigners are a novelty, but if it turns into a flood, resentment against foreigners always follows. Weaponized migration is causing this effect all over Europe and the US.
Hs Hs that is true, i dont want to see east asia suffer the self inflicted wound the west has... multiculturalism is a farce and too many foreigners will trigger a very natural backlash
Hs Hs, ahahahaha. I'm sorry, but are you seriously afraid of westerners OVERCROWDING Chinese? It's like Inuits overcrowding Americans.
Bear Arms, "overcrowding" isn't necessary to trigger backlash, just a visible presence, _especially_ when they start marrying your women, who are in short supply already. And the more homogeneous the culture, like China, the lower the threshold to trigger alarm.
" resentment against foreigners always follows"
Bear Arms, do you see the word "Westerners" in that quote from my comment? This is a universal human reaction to the influx of too many outsiders. There is a lot of resentment against Chinese populations in Southeast Asian nations. If millions of Europeans flooded into Africa demanding welfare, Africans wouldn't like it. If there were as many millions of US citizens in Mexico illegally as there are Mexicans in the US, Mexicans wouldn't like it.
it's ok if you talk about "haters" in 1 or 2 videos but it's really getting too much you seem to be complaining about "haters" in like every second video, as long as u don't got a a 50% dislike ratio just ignore it please.
extreme nah it’s cool I like the attention
I love y'alls videos. Very informative stuff and there's nothing better than live exploration to show what a place is actually like.
I enjoy y'alls content quite a bit. I've learned a lot from you guys. I've been in China for 3 years now and your advice/knowledge has been really invaluable. You can't please everybody. Even my own buddy here that I work with said he doesn't like you guys. He said he met Winston in a bar in Shenzhen and said he was very rude. Lol. *shrug*
Serpentza is starting to redpill his viewers on the South Africa situation. Better be careful, bro. Next thing you know they'll start throttling your channel. lol.
Pasos Largos
That's just ethnic nationalism, and it doesn't just apply to white people either. Doesn't matter where you're in the world outside your own country, the local ethnic nationalists won't be the ones who will stand up for you when you get treated unfairly there. Unfortunately many countries in Africa and Asia have been a cesspool of post-colonial ethnic nationalism.
Pasos Largos Not really a redpill ( which is such a stupid term anyway)
Yumeitoアルジュン Yeah I guess. But I find it funny how it’s applied to everything even though it simply represents the colours of an American political party
Jara true. American politics is pure comedy lol. I'm an Indian btw. I enjoy American politics.
Redpill actually comes from The Matrix memes. It has nothing to do with American politics.
@7:22 I just spit out my tea. Sweet mother of God did that guy really say, “ I’m not calling for the killing of white people at least not yet”
I just can’t even deal with that. Vengeance and resentment is never the answer. We are all brothers and sisters in the big human family.
dude, I know, what in the fuck.
He’s the leader of one of the largest South African political parties the EFF
ADVChina
Thank you for letting me know. Either way it is disgusting. I’m a mixed ( black and white) from New Jersey and was raised to believe we are all the human family. I grew up with white and African Americans grandparents. They both taught me we should learn from the past and all work together.
I think in the case of South Africa you have people that want to punish people alive today for things long ago. That don’t see by doing that they are allowing themselves to become the monster.
Also if they spend less time on hate they could have more time to solve South Africa’s water shortage that is dangerous levels, the crime and failing economy.
They could learn from many in history blaming and killing one group of people for all the problems of a country never works.
what's being done to whites in south africa is heinous, and when they have no food because they've killed their farmers, they'll cry out for aid.
from years of off road Jeep experience, never enter a water obstacle! you never know how deep the water will be until you do...
I also now know why you guys ride those small bikes! in the past I've wondered why you don't opt for larger displacement engines.
I'm a retired expat that lives in Korea & I enjoy all three channels, good stuff!
Next subreddit title:
"10 Thing that WILL SHOCK YOU about these So Called CHINA EXPERTS who CAN'T speak proper CHINESE drag us through THE MUD with CLICKBAIT TITLES!"
an then:
Read more about the NAZI CHINA VLOGGERS who want to OPRESS the CHINESE MINORITY and their fascist hail: "Stay Awesome!"
Damn clickbait. I thought it was a medical video!
Their clickbaiting is really getting over the top...
ROFLMAO!
+poonczey Did you find the title to this video to be a click-bait title? Maybe I'm personally defining click-bait incorrectly - I tend to think click-bait means that the title won't be descriptive of the video content. The title of this video is descriptive of a discussion within the video, so I don't consider it click-bait. Correct me if I'm wrong. Seriously - maybe I am.
This is the kind of content and adventuring I subscribed for great video guys
I for one thoroughly enjoy both of your content, even some of the clickbaity stuff. I get more information about China just from the wandering around in public shots than I get from people saying you suck. I don’t know how someone can complain about your content when the only thing they produce is insults and put downs. Keep it up boys.
Just found your videos and love them. I lived in Fuzhou for 4 years, there weren't many foreigners and I used to get followed by various people on a daily basis. I was followed by kids screaming hello quite often, one man thought I was a Russian hooker and followed me into a pharmacy LOL, and others used to follow me arguing as to if I was from Xinjiang USA or Russia. One of the biggest shocks during my first few days was a woman in the middle of Dicos (the fast food place) with her toddler squatted over a tissue going to the bathroom...oh yes. Anyway these videos make me homesick even not being from China, such a fun time.
Great content but your path selection could use some work haha
Cheers from Japan
Love the off-road talk SerpentZA and C-Milk a tad on the moist side but very good thoughts ☺️ I agree if people do not like the two of your content they can go elsewhere 👍 Till the next set of videos Stay Awesome and keep Laowinning 😉
Mei ban fa . . . Meanwhile, I have no idea why anyone would be hating your videos, having been watching for many months.
However, what I have come away with is the feeling that China would definitely have been interesting 10 - 15 yrs ago, but so much has already changed, there isn't much left of what I would have come there to experience.
Now it's huge mega-cities, crowded, choked with traffic . . . and seemingly endless factories, construction projects, fake buildings everywhere. Why would I go to see that?
You both were lucky to have been there at the right time starting out as ex-pats.
I'm likely to locate to other parts of the world, but have and do always enjoy your productions.
Seeing C-Milk struggling through the mud with the intro music was hilarious and I couldn't help but laugh a bit xD Muddy ADVChina indeed!
Well I love ya’ll and recommend people to watch your channel.
Haha SerpentZA you better not go back to South Africa, the shit can hit the fan at any time.
David Brown. Good recommendation. I think tribalism is always inevitable and it can become the Achilles tendon of the US. However, it is also true that so far integration has worked pretty well, though there are some crazy Mexicans that call themselves "La raza" and they want to take over California (-.-')
The Marco Polo syndrome increases the more remote you live, I have just started watching your content on two channels now and I like your approach of explaining things, straightforward and to the point
The best thing about these videos is the meticulously planned route they take every time....
Props for carrying a thought and convo while riding in soup...kinda haha
So what you traveled an entire 100 yards in this video. :)
I love your content. I went to China on a school trip in high school around 1999 and I enjoyed my time but it felt very curated. I really would have loved to explore and see the everyday life of China. I will probably never go to China again bc if financial reasons so seeing your videos and learning more about life there as you live it is incredibly interesting to me. Keep it coming! You guys are doing awesome work!
Glad you didn't put the music in the background of the conversation this time, thanks.
Lovable vloggers and bikes. What more do you need?
Leone some Chinese ass
BUU KOKKI, you can buy a silicone one on aliexpress
Bear Arms naw I only accept the real deal 😈
This could have been two hours and I would have watched it too. Perfect balance between rambling, having good honest points and real life happening (and GDS).
I love to explore out of the way non tourist destinations but would never consider traveling to China except for your videos. They’ve made China more understandable and accessible than anyone else!
That road was a headache! Great vid, you guys!
I noticed that someone is still doing landscaping, as many of the bushes are nicely squared off. Why would anyone do this on an incomplete and dilapidated housing complex? PS Stay awesome guys!
Square bushes take about a day, once or twice a year, with a weed whacker. As long as THAT much gets done - they keep getting the contract money for "landscaping". They are clearly not doing any of the other tasks that normally fall under a "landscaping" contract in the US. But... they probably aren't getting paid for that either.
Well they are right about your clickbait-y video titles. I've always thought they are super cringey and honestly they kept me from watching your videos for a long time. The content of the videos is fine though, I like them.
TheTechnoPro I totally agree. I love the videos; they're great. But the titles sometimes make them look way crappier than they actually are and have turned me off in the past. But, I'm not someone who just reads the headlines, I like to form a view after seeing the content...I'd say the majority on social media don't get past the headlines though. I'd hope these guys don't really need click bait to sell these great videos, but I guess we're not seeing the analytics.
I'm active on Quora, (top writer 2018) but not on topics relating to China. I've actually mentioned you guys before and referred people to your CZcams channels, but I don't recall any negative reaction. I can't imagine anyone having a problem with what you guys are doing, even the travel/discovery channel in the U.S. doesn't show what you guys do. Keep it up!
Yo! Winston and C-Milk! I have been binge watching your videos for a few days now. I love the videos you guys make! It definitely seems like you guys get a lot of blowback from your videos. I have learned more about China in the last few days that I have in the 36 years of my life. It’s a beautiful country as far as I can see, and the people do seem friendly. I do not feel like you guys paint China in a bad light. I see honest opinions derived from experience. Believe it or not, I have thought about visiting China many times, and with the help of your videos, I now have a better understanding of what I may be getting into. So thank you so much for all of your time and effort. If I was in a better financial situation I would gladly donate plenty of money to your. Paetreon. ( sorry, I probably spelled that wrong)
Keep up the good work guys, I try to like all of the videos you guys make. I hope you both prosper.
Do vagrants ever just break in and move into those unused housing developements?
Brian W yeah that’s what they were saying about “Squatters”. People who illegally live in a place they don’t own since nobody is watching
I feel trolled by this video cuz it took so long to get to the point only to not have a point.
Am actually not into vlogging but I like to know more about China and your channel is way different than anything I have ever encountered. And both of you make things very interesting and fun. People's tastes are not the same especially that this show is being broadcasted to many audiences around the world not just western ones.