Where Has It Gone Wrong For Erik Ten Hag & Man Utd? | Ownership & Manager Timeline
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- Flex’s take on Man Utd situation! Where has it been going wrong over the last 10 years? Can INEOS & ten Hag align their visions for the club? How INEOS aren’t afraid to make changes at Man Utd! Flex sits down in front of the camera, away from The Take On alongside Joel Beya as the pair discuss what and where do Manchester United need to improve? Touching on the problems at the club since Sir Alex Ferguson left, the lack of changes and progress over the years, the Glazers’ part ownership to INEOS, how anyone at the club can be replaced, ten Hag & the current Man Utd squad, what’s the plan for Man Utd’s future and much more! Like, Subscribe, & Comment below to get involved with The Take On and let us know what you’d like to hear us discuss next!
0:00; - Intro
0:24; - Is this the worst state Flex has seen Man Utd in?
1:54; - What is to blame for Man Utd’s downfall in the last decade?
4:20; - the downfall timeline starting with Sir Alex Ferguson’s departure
7:39; - What were the issues under Louis van Gaal & José Mourinho?
9:06; - Was it a case of bad decision after bad decision?
10:13; - Was picking Pogba over Mourinho a BIG turning point?
11:40; - The Glazer’s decision to sell shares in Man Utd
13:13; - Erik ten Hag & the current Man Utd squad
16:55; - Anyone at Man Utd can be replaced
20:05; - Will INEOS & ten Hag align in their visions?
21:10; - Outro
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0:00; - Intro
0:24; - Is this the worst state Flex has seen Man Utd in?
1:54; - What is to blame for Man Utd’s downfall in the last decade?
4:20; - the downfall timeline starting with Sir Alex Ferguson’s departure
7:39; - What were the issues under Louis van Gaal & José Mourinho?
9:06; - Was it a case of bad decision after bad decision?
10:13; - Was picking Pogba over Mourinho a BIG turning point?
11:40; - The Glazer’s decision to sell shares in Man Utd
13:13; - Erik ten Hag & the current Man Utd squad
16:55; - Anyone at Man Utd can be replaced
20:05; - Will INEOS & ten Hag align in their visions?
21:10; - Outro
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Give ten Haag time. I’m sick and tired of the sacking and hiring of managers. It’s a never ending cycle. Let’s give someone time for a change and see how it goes.
well its not going well is it! get in the bin! i can't wait too see your face when we get humiliated by man city in the final!
And you are the same people that wonder why Real Madrid have won more Champions League last decade than United have in its history. They dont tolerate failure of managers
Real Madrid top management is the complete opposite of the glazers and the manager shares no blame for the failures of the club no wonder we have spent more than Man City and had more than 5 managers but with no return on the pitch.
INEOS has taken the right step to address the mother of the problems by appointing people with footballing minds to guide the club on managerial appointments, staff and player's recruitment,academy, women's team etc rather than having business people with no football knowledge running the club.@@InspirationalMagic
Agreed! He's done an amazing job given the fire circumstances!
Lost 20 games in a season is wild for any club, but give him more time 🤦🏽♂️
I'll tell you what's gone wrong with UNITED FANS: A short memory.
United finished 3rd and won a cup in Ten Hag's first season. He had his group of players. Many of them not very good. But they were contenders still.
And then things spiraled after that. The club, we all thought, was getting sold. It did not. The Glazers didn't want to sell or buy new players in those circumstances. So Ten Hag had to make due with last minute signings that he could convince to come to United. And loan signings.
He came into this season with lots of chaos in administration, only to then suffer the worst injury record a club has ever had in a season.
Yes, we've been abysmal. But some of those losses have been close. Real close. How much could an available Luke Shaw have contributed? Or a fit Varane and Martinez? How much more part could a Mason Mount have played? Could Rashford have scored more if he had his wingman Shaw playing right behind him? Could a working Rashford have given Fernandes the freedom to stay up top creating from where he's more effective? Could Onana have benefited from an experienced, steady backline?
All those are ifs. But they are worth debate. For me, the biggest mystery is how this has been the worst season United has had but they're somehow still in 6th/7th and still made a cup final. If that is a bad season, I'm looking forward to seeing a good season from them.
We can't do too much with the players we have availible now. Looking at this season top 4 would had been the max position in the league we could get. Some think because we are Manchester United we have to win every game but not with this team. Next few seasons if Sir Jim. and the rest does decent or more then Glazers did we'll get better. No doubt We need to be patient
Have you even watched our games?
Or watched other clubs play in the Premier League?
The quality in general this season in the Premier League has been VERY poor.
There have been so much low quality football to watch this season.
And the reality is also that we have won many of our games by pure luck and or the other team being totally shite at putting the ball in our net.
If you really know anything about football and are able to be honest, you would admit this.
The reality is that Ole did better to much better during his seasons at United apart from not winning the Mickey Mouse cup and his last months and even they were not as bad as it has been during our last months under ten Hag this season.
I bet you were one of the Ole outers and/or claim that ten hag is so much better and has done so much better than Ole, but the reality is that it is not so.
And if you think it was correct to sack Ole that did objectively better than ten Hag, why do you want to keep ten Hag now?
@@carnivore2023what’s your opinion on Ten Hag’s Man United of last season? What they managed to achieve and how they played?
@@carnivore2023 I agree with your points, and that Ole did well. And he said it himself in the Overlap when he wanted to move Man Utd above the counterattacking football, but these players couldn't do it! We were too early to sack Ole. Don't wanna repeat the same mistake with EtH! Can't sack EtH before he gets another full season with HIS type of players, especially after what he achieved last season.
@@ayushjoshi1286Had we signed Casemiro and Eriksen instead CR7 I think Ole would've done far better
This isn’t the worst it’s just the present, the problem with United is we have fans not supporters.
Exactly!! Well said. They just cry every time United lose or if it's not going 100% peachy.
This FLEX moron is epitome of that culture. He is a "fan" of United. because it's his job.
Sorry but watching their performances over the last 5-6 years has been abysmal. There has been no consistency or clear bigger picture.
Sacking Ten Hag will look like a knee jerk reaction but it won't fix United's problem. Structural reset has only just begun, squad cleansing is needed, so it will be a mistake to get rid of Ten Hag now. Arteta and Klopp took years to build their squad and that's despite having the right structure and recruitment behind them. Time to get real!
ten hag has a better win rate that kloop did at the same time
Not true, the Ole/Rangnick season was worse, the players had down tools and didnt care and we were getting smacked up. This season (as bad as it is) has been massively impacted by injuries and stupid in-game management by Ten Hag AND the players, where we have thrown away SO MANY leads (when we should have won).
Conversations like this are what is wrong with Utd. Give the Manager a chance rather than having 2 over reactionary people discuss for the clicks.
Flex just likes to speak dispite not saying much of sense.
I really expect more from this channel 😕
We expected him to make miracles happen with a squad of players we were ALL ready to get rid off before he came, his first season was that miracle but it couldn't be sustained as the usual suspects would eventually show their true colours and those with minimal quality would eventually be found out and now people are surprised, i don't get it.
Why is it suddenly all gone wrong for ten hag - yet arteta was allowed x2 8th place finished whilst running through ah use clear out and thata deemed as OK ?
INEOS will find that Ten Hag will fit in very well with their plans going forward. He is a team player, like he was at Ajax
I think everyone is overreacting. When ten hag took over, we only knew this would be a 4-5 season process. If everyone just has some patience, everything will be fine.
Getting the spaces between players right is the coaches responsibility and we have been wide open and easy to play against from the first day of the season until now.
@@rd4798 do you think it’s easy to get the player positioning spot on for games when you’re forced to play with a different back 4 every game?
@@rd4798We are in a transition and last season we weren't this wide open in midfield but the manager chose a system that was good for the players available but not his favorite system and he is moving into his system this season although it has exposed the lack of quality in the squad for his system couple with the mass injury at the back.
@king.k284 what does playing a different back four have to do with the large distance between central midfielders and attackers. Our transition when we lose the ball (which we do a lot) is the worst I've ever seen from a utd team
@charlesodoch6070 yes we was, overrun on several occasions especially away from home. To date EtH only has one win against top 9 side (Villa) and that came this season. And ironically we sold the player who was best at covering the ground on defensive transitions (Fred).
Subjective, think Rangnick season 1/2 season was by far worse. Regardless how this season has gone ETH has got united to an FA Cup Final which is a big achievement
Everyone keeps talking about this fa cup final as if it’s a big achievement 😂😂😂 let’s look at the opponents United played Newport County, Nottingham Forest, Coventry, and Liverpool. 3/4 of these teams are Championship Level. Forget the route to the final, there is no way in hell they are beating City, so what’s the point if they don’t win it.
Now if you want to take about the league. We are on track for a record low 7th position, most goals conceded, and most loses. But I guess that’s not a bad season 🤷🏾♂️
@@epektasis242 Injuries are not an excuse for not being able to instill a consistent play style at least ONCE in an entire season.
Week after week we see zero tactics and zero team shape. Let’s be honest offensively, most of our players have been healthy this season, expect for Hojlund at the beginning. At least you would expect us to click offensively, but we can’t even do that.
Most of the epl teams have had massive injury crises this season. The manager has to adapt the team to deal with it
@@epektasis242 and stop talking about cup finals like it’s an achievement. It only matters if we win, and we aren’t beating City.
@@nehemiya558 how many teams have made it to the cup final in the last 2 years? which two teams?
Our levels have fallen so far it sounds like spurs when we claiming reaching a final is a achievement
Sancho doing well is not a slight on UTD.
Sancho through UTD under the bus.
Thats the fact...
Principle is principle.
It's THREW not THROUGH, big difference between the two bro
@freespiritangel4868 🤦🏾♂️. Not even going to edit it. Keep it As a reminder of my failures.
@@lanznoir2251Sancho did little wrong but sheep like you follow emotional narratives and throw players under the bus in defence of poor managers
Injuries. That’s it. His a world class coach. Get him the players he want and give him time
The same crap players that let down previous managers make up a large percentage of the squad.
How can you expect one man to change a pattern? LVG did alright got sacked, Mourinho good season followed by bad season sacked, Ole good season followed by bad season sacked, ETH good first season, and….?
INEOS are making the right noises in terms of sorting out the culture to allow whoever is manager to needs to be in the right environment. I have worked in toxic environments (not football) and good people were wasted in those environments, because the higher ups had got it incredibly wrong.
Should ETH be allowed to stay? He’s not helped himself and managers aren’t allowed to makes mistakes at MU. I think he should be given a chance because in the correct environment.
100%
The manager has made the environment worse with his poor man management and throwing players under the bus publicly with lies. Keep the same energy. No employee should have a terrible manager, he should be fired.
Who’s he’s thrown under the bus? Sancho? You find a job anywhere on the planet you can post negative things about your employer/manager online and go unpunished especially if you don’t apologise. Same goes for the Ronaldo interview? The buck stops with the manager, and players need to know what the lines and rules are.
Flex isn't a proper united supporter, he was on talk sport talking about tuchel would be a great replacement for ten hag like why say that when a manager is already there. If we don't have a manager then talk about whoever being a replacement but it's just total disrespect on Ten Hag, him and goldbridge are no different and are cut from the same cloth.
He is right tho. I will take Tuchel in a heartbeat over Ten fraud
@@jjjtalon The guy who was playing 7 defenders on the pitch for Chelsea and is due to be out of a job with Bayern...That is the long term solution for you?
@@TalaaboDheer Chelsea fans didnt want him sacked, he is better than Poch.
@@jjjtalonyou are basing your argument on what Chelsea fans wanted?
@@MohauLoselo No but why do you want Ten hag to stay? This is the worst man united team I have ever seen. We are supposed to be fighting for titles, EPL, CL, what we have become is an embarassement. and the responsibilities is up to the manager, he has had 3 years.
It's baffling everyone is asking the same question when ten Hag himself has answered the question so many times. Injuries, having to play a new CB pair every game., not having the squad he wants...etc...There you go.
All these 'supporters' think the manager game is a walk in the park. They have the football knowledge but no nothing that goes behind the scenes and they talk like they know it all. Give it a rest lads. Just support the team or go support other team if you want. Its your choice.
Everyone said ten hag overachieved last season; we finished 3rd and has a 30 goal Rashford on fire, peak Casemiro, 2 left backs, and Martinez and Varane available.
We have none of that this season. In some cases we have the opposite. He can't be blamed for any of them either. If we overachieved last season, do you really think we've underachieved this year?? You're crazy. We're exactly where we should be based on the quality of the squad right now
We are reaping the rewards of years of neglect. Thrust into the wilderness for more than a decade and at the heart of all this decay is the Glazers. No Manager not even Pep would ultimately thrive under those conditions. The trouble is some fans expect instant success, we are not that club anymore. It will need time and patience from loyal fans to support the club and EtH as we rebuild under a new era with INEOS at the helm. I would like our manager to be given another season to prove he's the man for the job.
Loved this chaps, very insightful. 👌🏼
When Sir Alex left, he left an older squad which relied more on management and a few younger players.
David Gill left.
Past their user date managers
Not enough investment in youth over the first part of the 2010a
And everything Flex has said
We were down in the dumps since 2009. Only sir Alex’s greatness got 2 titles after 2009
The downfall truely started (besides the Glazers taking over) when we sold Ronaldo (and Tevez) and barely replaced them.
Ten Hag in, fans and players out
Darren Fletch lmao. Honestly if Im MU I tell him listen, we will pay you to be in a good mood. Just be happy around the place and be the guy everybody is happy to see. With time, he would build up a network with loads of ppl outside MU, players and agents, while keeping an eye on the youth. Tho id rather have Rio in that role but he might slap ppl around too much and forget the good mood thingy.
When was the last time Rio actually was on this channel?
Flex is right, there are plenty of older fans who’ve seen poor United teams, me included…..however this IS the worst as we’re now a football super power so should be winning more. In the 80’s we were a cup team but we had Robbo, a ban in Europe and a much smaller fan base and we didn’t have the Glazers!
We've been one of the biggest teams in the world since the Busby babes, George best and then Ferguson
The blame is with Ed Woodward, because there was no planning for buying players and the type of players.
Sir Alex was partly to blame, because you can`t buy Van Persie and then leave at the end of the season.
What really bothers me is that with hindsight some still think LVG was boring or stagnating. He was building, we could actually see what he was trying to do, we could see where he was trying to go. We were defensively solid, had young dynamic attackers he was developing well With a few more pieces, especially in the midfield we would have competed. We definitely would have done better than what came after him
The problem with fans is that they're focusing too much on "who's to blame" rather than "how do we fix this!"
Its great to see Joe-L talking about mangers when he said Arteta out on a fuking documentary,and Flex is to emotional right what happened bro?
He's embarrassed himself
@@dondamon4669 are you talking about the hosts or ETH?
In my lifetime this is the wordy United since Frank O’farell in early 70’s n I was at Cristal palace for his last game when we lost -0-5
Ole lost 4-0 at palace
The start, he came in and new some players aren’t suited to possession football yet he made 2 of them in Bruno and rashford his undroppables… I would have respected him more if he was bold and told the board to sell.
Can you imagine what would happen to player power if Sancho returns , Ragnick saw a rotten squad needed weeding out but when Ten Hag tried he gets hurt by injuries and is not backed by media. Jaydon hasn’t ripped it up, one decent game…
"Worst United team!" No way - the one under Rangnick was the worst. Not that it was Rangnick's fault but most players just checked out because they knew Rangnick wasn't going to be the manager next season. Same spine of the team is still in the club though and that needs to change. I agree though it's the worst defense we seen so far because Maguire and Wan-Bissaka + makeshift players are playing every week and only Dalot has done OK even though he finds it hard to keep his concentration. For instance Dalot cost 2 goals against Chelsea and that devasting loss could cost Europe League spot in the end. If defense is strengthened a lot and a great Casemiro replacement is bought (2 if he leaves) I think this United team will definitely get a top 4 spot next season as minimum and maybe even a trophy.
#The Man Dem!!⚽️
Flex works on 10 different channels, only if Man Utd players were this dedicated
i say let Eth finish his contract so he can be ineos fall guy unless he turns it around cause i don’t think they’re gonna sell all the deadwood players in time
Next season is the last season of his contract - you don’t allow a manager to go into a season with one year to go. It’s either a new contract or sack.
@@damianbrowne847u can
@@damianbrowne847 he should be sacked but not for the reason you gave..
Ten Hag needs at least 3 seasons before you make an opinion and to be honest I am now thinking at least 2 years with Ineos in the conversation we are for now a cup team maybe the odd CL campaign we will be back for sure at the very top patience is key
Was hoping Sancho would be brought up in this conversation at some point
What's there to say about chubs? He can't play top level football
@@dondamon4669That’s why he’s playing at the highest level getting praise in UCL semi finals while United sit 6th and in danger of dropping even lower with players like garnacho and hojlund who can barely control a football.
Very interesting views guys. 👍
I dont agree Ole/Rangnick season is better than this season. That season we were not in FA cup final. 3 footballers Mainoo, Garnacho and Hojlund were developed well. The fight for team discipline is on. Player power has been adequately challengec by team principles and rules. The standard has been upheld consistently and poor performance has been exposed - example Mcguire, Garnacho. Recruitment of Hojlund, Martinez and Onana worked barring Anthony. Youth development is at the core again. One more thing, one needs to make a choice of going for continuity of the changes already made to establish the culture or get into whole new change. I go for continuity of the changes. At the end performance will follow.
No the worst team was the Ole/Ragnick team. The fact that Ten Hag got a trophy from pretty much the same squad was a miracle. Let the new group back him, and then he could build the team he wants. The downfall started with hiring Moyes, who now admitted he was not ready.
Glazers really milked United for 30 million a season while it rotted
Long may it continue 😅
Look at the managers we had after SAF 1: Moyes at West ham found his level, 2: LVG struggling with Holland, 3: Mourinho seems finished, 4: Ole bang average no club 5: Rangnik loss!, 6: Erik Ten Satan worst of all time!
Why let JoeL talking about this topic without Ste and Rio? Scared? 😂
It hasn't gone wrong flex is gone bananas
This season is no where near as bad as the old rangick season
Dont get me wrong saf was the goat. But nobody talks about the fact the he didn't once think about the squad b4 he left. It was already in a bit of a bad state. Just proves how good he was winning league with them. But it's like he didn't want any1 2 do well after he left. Imo
Stupidest comment I e seen and says more about you as a person if you think Ferguson wanted Manchester United to fail 😂and also you obviously haven't been a fan long as you don't know he had no money to buy players
My problem is who do we bring in? who is available now while to have the balls to coach and bring out the best of the team
What is the difference in choosing Rashford everytime and him not playing well than earlier not playing Ronaldo when he was scoring goals atleast
The problem started way before sir Alex left. It was when the glazers took over the rot started.
Where has it gone wrong? Lack of memory from our so called fans and pundits. The very success some fans think we're entitled to, was achieved finishing 11, 2, 11 in SAF first 3 years. We won zip! We didn't finish 3rd and we certainly didn't win a trophy in SAF first year. Also, everything at board level was set for SAF to succeed. Once these facts are taken into account, is this question even valid?
I need a team with an attack plan
Seen none to be honest
9:20 Lukaku did well, he scored 1 in 2. Fans just didn't like his style
The problem is British United fans.. They're very recency biased. Ten Hag needs time.. This season is nothing but unlucky.. With all the injuries.. Yes other teams also faced injuries.. But not like ours... We can judge him next season.. With a fully fit squad.
Erik is right, he needs time! If Erik goes its an insult to us gans who are being patient and believe in Erik, I believe Inios will keep Erik, why would ypu get rid of him!
What was going wrong for Arteta only two years ago when the majority of Arsenal fans(including Joel Beya) were screaming "Arteta out!!"?
spittin' facts n theories!!
A really good assessment of United and non-biased one especially as it’s ALL FACTS… Lovin’ what FIVE are doing and look forward to future content.
Any show plans for the Euros?
Please do continue with this type of content, I really enjoyed conversation
Loved this set up
Great video!
Ten Hag IN! Give him time to cook
This is what EtH said to Us when we showed our frustration about why did he's leaving Ronaldo on the bench against the Villa way back in October '22
Mate you aren't convincing anyone. Ronaldo is finished not only as a player at united but as a football player at the highest level. You go on about poor squad selection but you ignore what's on the bench. Just another fan boy trying to deflect. The fact you want us to listen to Souness says it all, everyone is behind ETH 
We are in a rebuild you cannot focus your attacking players around a declining 37 Yr old who doesn't want to be here. Just move on its best for everyone involved!
Well said!
As much as I would like to see ten hag succeed the more time goes on I think tuchel is incoming it makes sense champions league winner done good things maybe Eric deserves another season because of how well he did in his first season but can we afford to let tuchel take a different job and not come to united... Ten hag seems to work well with youth but when it comes to big money signings he's lost in the woods.. Antony 90 million casemiro 70 million I mean come on who's signing these transfers off at u ited spend money but sign the right proven player at the right age not over the hill players and unproven at the top level players
Does EtH have a future at our Club?
Ans. No, Bayern Munich would be the sort of Club that suits EtH not Ole!
EtH has to earn the right to be our Manager cos right now he's been messing Up due to his lack of adapting, limited approach to the job & his undermining of the youth policy, so there's room for improvement!
If Eric Ten Hag gets the PUSH cos he's a Man City fan, helping the opposition & sabotage what he has built at our Club then bring back Ole Gunnar Solskjear with his new Management team (Ole & his 3 Wise Men)!
Keep it in the family!
Flex must of forgot United came 12th under Sir Alex how he can say this is the worst team in United history is a bit baffling.
United needs to stop doing this long pre season tours coz its the reason we had so many Injuries..cant blame the manager
thats to raise money. thats the reason we do it. We didn't need to do that all 10 years ago.
We would have been better off keeping Ole there our preferred choice & put Reckless Ralf upstairs as DOF & encouraged Ole to improve his Management team by bringing in his 3 wise Men that would encourage the players & staff to improve on their focus, performance, consistency & achieve more. Instead Man Utd chose the 'Joker' Eric Ten Hag cos of the 5min fans (anyone under 30) & flip-flop fan Base!
Mourinho should not have been allowed to join our Club, that when the board & owners showed their gullibility e & he knew it - even though he was successful that was the worst football we've seen at Man Utd since SMB & post Fergie that went Toxic so the board had to act so No More Defensive Coaches.
A full on analyses but you could have summarised easily...nobody wants to buy your players...unless manu starts terminating contracts and paying these players to move on...nothing will change
No rio againnn?
A lot of credit for Flex on this a perfect summary of all the madness we have suffered as fans over the last 10 years
Pogba will end up with more trophies at Man United then a bruno at Man United hope that united fan is aware of that ?
we also have been relegated in 1893/94, 1921/22, 1930/31 and 1936/37 so how is this worst haha people so silly you like to use past success but your blinded and dont remember we were not always the dominate team acting like we have run football for life chill give manager time see what he does next year then we may have more manager options if we choose to change.
Sir Alex please Joel...
Just image this, if ETH got fired from Man Utd, will any other big club hire him. I think the answer is obvious. So Unless Man Utd no longer regards itself as a big club , then keep him there
We need to get shut of this bluffer n these championship players , stealing a millionaire salary !
Green and what?
Ten Hag in
Great to see Flex on here, great guy
Flex spitting facts as usual
Love this, watch a lot of your shows. I do agree with flex though a lot of the club still needs to get stripped down. And so does the squad. I think ten hag will stay, only for the next season potentially. Maybe not even the full season. But he may have his chance to prove himself under this regime. But he may also be let go after 10 games if things aren’t working
No no way, this can’t be the worst I have seen.
Amazing episode guys!
Flex is as his name is Mr Flexible and completely by choice, he is a people pleaser, like many idiotic fans he happily looks past the title of Manager, looking to not blame another manager, but say the owners badly managed the club, employing the wrong people all the time, but no brain cell to consider ETH as a wrong employer, the best thing for the club to be sorted out quickly is for fans think Flex to stop supporting United, they are part of the problem, either they dont understand football or are trying tooo hard to please everyone to talk crap most of the time, by trying to not blame ETH.
Still “Glazers Out” bro.
Flex stop it stop it jah know 😢😢😢😢😢
This was good. The idea is good.
It could be better with a panel. But instead of doing it like they do it on The Overlap, do 1 video for each club and interrogate more fans from each club.
Flex.
Telling the truth
Ronaldo was done for shirt sales and profit for the Glazers.
Flex is just over doing it
Flex is no United fan…please don’t use that guy to talk about my club
The only problem united have is mentality,how they cant keep a lead is mind boggling,everything seeems ok until they blunder and its now struggles to change the results,its annoying
Yeah no. The 21/22 season was way worse than this one.
Sorry! I could never like a video where anyone is suggesting Ten Hag should be sacked - backing the horrendous and unfair media agenda against him. Not surprising though since Flex works for Sky.
Flex just did the fan version of CR7 sitting with Piers Morgan! GTFOH!
Spot on
Flex = sel out. Did Joe make a show about Arteta In the first two years!