Vera Meets a Horrifying End | The Categories of Life | Torchwood: Miracle Day
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Miracle Day was really disturbing. Completely forgot about some of the gruesome fates like this, probably just a mental block or something
I never forgot this scene.
@@stephenmurphy2212 it's a really good scene. Tbh I think s big part was that I was a bit young(ish) when it came out. This was my first Torchwood series I saw proper
This is the one scene from Miracle Day I never forgot. Coming right at the end of the episode it just let me with this sick, hopeless, disgusted feeling. I think Mekhi really sold it knowing that he had to film it despite how cruel and horrific this murder was.
One of the worst scenes is when the woman gets trapped in the crushed car and it zooms in on her eye
miracle day was so messed up, I loved it. Oswald was the most hateable villain I have ever seen, so well written.
Man Bill Pullman was doing Trump impressions before it was cool
I hated the journalist
Thing is he aint the villain of the piece. He's NOT a good guy. He's horrific actually but he IS a protagonist in the story
@@Sh23-hv7sn Yeah, there's never a point in the story where Oswald is actually in the way. He's sort of with Phicorp for a bit, but he doesn't actually cause problems. Generally he's irrelevant to the plot until the last two episodes and by then he's just on the right side.
The best character in miracle day and they killed her off 😭
Ngl this was a pretty decent episode but also it was very disturbing
Well really.... she's still alive
@@kektuss you did not 😭
I think why this scene is so hard to watch is because people would genuinely do this...
MORAL OF THE STORY - don't let this guy save you.... only way to stop a machine isn't to kick the door and yell, its to get to the damn controls and shut it off.
Lol best comment so far :)
Exactly, go find the gas valve
honestly by the time he realised what was going on she was as good as dead anyway
"You gotta get out of there!". Yeah, no shit Sherlock, wanna help me do that?
Don't get me wrong, I like the Miracle Day cast, but I do miss Tosh, Owen and Ianto :(
I’m still not over Ianto’s death.
@@TimeForTeletubbiesFAN Same :(
I have a crazy idea on how to bring those three back but I don't want anyone to steal my idea so I'm not sharing it
One of the most horrifying scenes in any Torchwold episode...truly traumatising...
I'm hoping in the Christmas special that Jack brings this up with the doctor
You would deadass think that the doctor would help, in this and in children of earth.
Obi-Wan Kenobi didn’t Gwen question this in Children of Earth? I remember her narrating when she said she wondered why the Doctor never dealt with these threats until she realised why. That the Doctor, who loves humanity so much, must look at the human race during these events and turn away with shame
@@o.o5258 He was travelling with Amy and Rory at this point in Series 6 so never really went to present day Earth during it I suppose.
@@MaccamatBux BUT they we left on Earth in the middle of this between 'A Good Man Goes To War' and 'Let's Kill Hitler' where Amy states that the time frame had been "all summer" from their point of view and once they discovered River they presumably went back to regular adventures where they would have likely mentioned it, especially as over the summer, Rory would have been in a similar position to Vera and the other Hospital staff earlier in Miracle Day.
Jedi Spartan 38 it’s one of those things you sadly have to imagine happened off screen. The Doctor was likely aware of it, and Amy and Rory probably mentioned it, we just didn’t see it
Certainly one of the best episodes of Miracle Day
So, since no one on earth can die, is she now just a living pile of ash??
Yep... although IIRC they were burned so completely that they lost consciousness... still a horrible way to go
Unclear.
I think the idea is that cells don't die, so she still would have died since there are no cells left to be alive
@@a_cats aren't we forgetting the dalek sludge in the sewers on skaro?
@@theentity5201 Dalek biology is very different to human biology, it seemed more like their bodies lost their shape as they got older which meant they could no longer function properly.
I haven't watched Torchwood, but I remember seeing part of this scene when I was a kid.
And I still feel sick watching it.
Are you me?
Depressingly relatable
It’s really unusual and slightly horrifying to know that this is set in the same universe as doctor who. A children’s show
that was the point, the dark side of the universe that Doctor Who - a kids show couldn't show
This is one of the scenes I remember the most as a kid when I first watched this I was so disturbed
Vera died the same way Owen Harper died (unable to die properly but had still disintegrated).
owen wasn't technically immortal, he could still "die" he just wouldn't feel it, there is no blood or anything. miracle day is more horrifying than what owen was going through
scantopup but he was still conscious. The only way he could stop being a living corpse and ceasing all cognitive function was by disintegration.
@@stephenmurphy2212 what I'm saying is that he is a living corpse, no feeling no nothing so it isn't technically immortality, with miracle day they are still concous but can feel every thing. even thoguh owen is "alive" by defintion but lacks what makes us alive, he can see and interact but can't taste, feel. in essence he is "dead"
@@stephenmurphy2212 owen can still die from a gun shot or stabbed ect, he wasnt immortal, he only returned from the dead, he didnt feel no pain, nothing, no breathing anything, if he was outright killed again he would die. Owen was not immortal.
Djayscratcher read my first comment on the thread.
This scene was so hard to think about when I first saw it.
This was the best episode of Miracle Day I think
This season and the whole nature of the 456 in children of earth and the fact that Jack was there to offer them the kids in the first place really frightened me when I first watched it. It's hard to believe sometimes that torchwood exists in the same world as Sarah Jane adventures
Then again, we live in a real world of extremes. There were absolutely amazing people like Mr. Rogers and Mahatma Gandhi, but there are also people like ISIS and the IRA. Sometimes, good and bad exist right next door to each other.
And now I'm wondering what happened to the characters of SJA during Miracle day....
@@mattevans4377 yeeeah like obviously it would have been weird to feature them IN Torchwood but surely Sarah-Jane would have investigated?
Althalus2010 well there wasn’t really much going on in the UK that was relevant to the Families so if they did do any digging they wouldn’t have found much
@@Althalus2010 I'm sure Sarah Jane was keeping a close eye on the whole situation through Mr. Smith, but most likely never fully got involved. The whole situation wasn't really affecting the whole Bannerman Road Gang.
the worst prt is that the miracle won't let them die so they feel every single moment of burning. thier skin buring away, the muscle tissue, the brain. the miracle won't let them die even then
They will still burn, their bodily tissue oxidizing, the bounds of their bodies' particles falling apart, leaving naught by ash. The question is: Sentient Ash?
@@voidjockey82 it's worse, remember the dalek sewers?
@@scantopup2226 Not quite. The Dalek Graveyard is what it's like to burn, just much slower. What comes afterwards... are you ultimately deas after your brain has broken down or do your particles still give off electrical charges akin to brain waves?
@@voidjockey82 I like you, you aren't afraid to propose an intellectual challenge
@@scantopup2226 While I take the compliment with pride I'm sorry to disappoint you but a lot if people have come to the same logical debate before me. Though in this isntance, I asked the question myself first before hearing another one ask so just this time, I deserve it.
So... thank you. Have a nice day. And hope you suffer the Dämmerungs-Cognito Hazard.
I really wish they would bring Torchwood back, we could do with the continuation of the story since it ended on a bit of a cliffhanger
the only cliffhanger was how rex was immortal
@@IBagel2 and the families point out they have a plan B, they aren't major cliffhangers but they are still cliffhangers
@@Sekulture I might be wrong, but I think the Families' Plan B was the subject of an audio story or something like that
It'll always blow my mind that this is in the same realm as Doctor Who.
They had an excellent idea for "Miracle Day": take what seems to be the ultimate blessing (immortality) and ask us, "Is it really?" Unfortunately, it's the execution (no pun intended) of it where it falls down. I've always thought they went too far trying to make it palatable to American audiences when the people who were watching "Torchwood" were watching it because there was enough British identity and style in it to balance it out. It wasn't as bad as the Fox "Doctor Who" movie, but they could have made it more like "Children of Earth." It was just the wrong way to end the series, even though they didn't know it was the end...
For all the hate this season has it's still pretty brutal and emotional
And where is the Doctor during all this while Humanity's immortality problem is causing them to decline to some of the worst levels of the 20th Century?
My headcanon is that while looking through human history, the Doctor came across Miracle Day and was so disgusted by what happened that he refused to intervene. Gwen Cooper had a pretty similar view during the 456 incident.
I would love it if in the new Christmas apraxia jack confronts her about where the hell she was during children of earth and miracle day
Harriet Jones said the Doctor isn’t on Earth all the time. In his/her absence, humanity has to fend for itself.
just another example of chris chibnal’s blatant disregard for cannon and timelines.
@@xlinnaeus This wasn't by Chibnall. This not being referenced in series 6 is down to Moffat... who seemingly forgot about the fact that several years had passed between series 6 and Power of Three by the time of Day of the Doctor as Kate acts like she and the Doctor have met even though series 7B resets the timeline to 2013.
What people don't understand is the Doctor doesn't tend to go somewhere simply because there's trouble.
Sure there cases he can't resist, and he pretends or makes excuses on why he wants to go there, but most of the time trouble just follows him around.
Now, if he was travelling already, and he heard about what happened to the human race during miracle day, several things would come to mind.
- He would be disgusted with how the human race is so selfish that they can't handle mortality, that they wish to be greater. Even the Doctor is mortal, and he knows how living forever can corrupt, so he would hate them for this.
- This is humanities doing, no alien force intervened or created this, and thus this isn't a case of aliens invading and doing wrong, this is between humanity and humanity alone.
- Lastly, humanity is protected. Torchwood exists, and the Doctor knows Jack is capable.
So in the end, the Doctor might have noticed, but would he really help?
Also, the Doctor knows ahead of time how most outcomes end. Most situations he intervenes in are situations he knows shouldn't have happened in history.
So if he didn't intervene, he probably knew things were going to be okay.
This haunted me same with Owen's death torchwood is a brilliant show but had some danm disturbing deaths I liked vera as well
This is completely unrealistic
The US would never develop a cult of personality around a terrible person
Wait...
Aged like Wine, in the most horrible outcome.
As the closing theme fades in...it oddly only adds to the tension.
No one delivers a speech like bill pullman
We will not vanish without a fight!
This still traumatises me
This is the first time I have seen this and I am sorry that I did.
This scene with Oswald Danes felt exactly like a Trump rally! 😂
Well, it certainly wasn't a Biden rally. He doesn't leave his basement 3/4 of a time! 😂
.....and Joe IS dead.... his cadaver has been re-animated 🇺🇸
Darren Smith I thought Trump was the basement guy?
@@flowersandlemons You'd be mistaken.
yes! i'm not the only one who thinks so
I love this scene. Perfect end of the episode
Which episode of the series is this scene from?
Governments and empires have done stuff like this before and they will again.
Love the random guy in a Sulaco shirt in the crowd
It was either this point or the eyeball in the compacter where I stopped watching Miracle Day, I don't remember which came first. I couldn't keep going, it was just too horrifying.
Hate the writers for killing her off
Miracle Day gets a lot of hate but it brought up a lot of issues with eternal life.
I literally watched this today
*But shes not dead?*
Doctor When she “died” just like Owen Harper “died”.
@@stephenmurphy2212 uh?
Angel of Rock Owen was immortal in the same way Miracle Day’s immortality works, in that they can’t die but they won’t heal either. Owen was disintegrated through radiation, so his cells are still technically alive, but they won’t reform back into Owen like Jack would. Same thing here, (but it’s fire obviously)
Zunaphey well in this case after the switch back then the “living ash” would become normal ash
Louis Hammond Yep
I was 10 years old when this came out. Seeing these clips again on CZcams is weird, as so much of it has been burned into my brain for so long despite only seeing it once. This scene kind messed me up ngl.
That cast was epic, story was so messed up, it was great.
I remember when i saw it on t.v.
I don't remember any of this, I must have blocked it out
Honestly liked Vera more than Rex and Esther. Kind hearted but with a mean itch when pushed
Like I said, GREAT CLIFFHANGER!
I like how there’s a guy in the crowd with a USS _Sulaco_ shirt even though Xenomorphs have made brief appearances in the 6th and 9th Doctor’s TV stories.
_Doctor Who_ canon makes no sense. But then again, it doesn’t actually exist.
I appreciate the shock and horror aspect of it it's just a shame Vera was accidentally one of the better written, best characters in the show. She was a BIG miss during the 2nd half.
Who’s willing to bet RTD called her Vera just so he could put in a “Vera… Vera… Vera… what has become of you?” Pink Floyd reference here!
Miracle Day was my favourite
Miracle day is brilliant I’m sorry this is some grim tv
Why do they have to kill all of my favourite characters 😭 (not just in torchwood in every show I watch)
I cried so hard at this when I watched
ugoreja sameeee :(
First rule of writing fiction: Kill your babies
Julius Stricto 😂, guess I can’t write fiction then, I could never 😂
ooh
Why is it Ricky?
it's not his name is rex
This moment almost turned me off the series if im honest. Losing the hot one always sucks but the idea that people couldnt die so humans found a way around this by completely vaporising people through burning? This was way too dark and disturbing.
Anyone else think that was will smith on the thumbnail
why is this tv show killing all my favourite characters?
Vera was bloody HOT! A beautiful woman.
Well...she certainly was quite hot in this scene...if you see what I mean.. 😂
@@joeo_18 Yep! 😂
Is this Donald Trump!?
This must be Trump. This has to be Trump. The speech, the way he adds to his sentences - it’s him to a T!
I just thought the same... but when I watched this the first time I didn’t... probably didn’t know who he was back then.
@@flowersandlemons Only a few million people did. Trump just recycles tent revivals with a more political slant. His brand of gaudy personality cult is nothing new.
The similarities between him and Trump
👀
Oswald Danes doing Trump rally's before he even had the idea
He sounds so nuch like trump
Haven't be able to watch Torchwood Miracle Day, do to streaming constraints. Don't know who Vera is. But because of the Title of the video, I Will Not watch Any of your videos. And maybe some day, I'll get to watch the show.
Wow looks and sounds like a Trump rally