'Indian' or 'Native American'? [Reservations, Part 0]
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"The first peoples were promised many things." Like a part 1 of this series.
Us: When’s Part 1 about the reservations coming out, Grey?
Grey: TIFFANYYYYYYYYY
:o)))
You just made me spray coffee out of my nose. I almost died. You owe me a shirt 😂
Hey I get it, I get distracted all the time programing. You have a big huge project with many MANY small bits and pieces its easy to get distracted. The Tiffany video took 6 months, so I doubt this one will take less than 5 years:P
Also Grey: Hexagons are the Bestagons
agreed my guy
The Indian series may become CGP Grey's Half-Life 3.
although in this case it's Half-Life 1 that's mising
He didn't even go past zero. Grey out here making Gabe look like Count von Count.
I very much hope he releases them one day, but seeing how over the last few years this has only become a much more sensitive topic, he might just play it safe and not.
Omg Indian Pt 1 confirmed!
@@swiftydialogues where you see that
Checkpoint 2024: Still no Part 1. I'm doing good, eating pizza roles and vibing.
American Indian - not to be confused with Indian American
Man, that is indo american
accquizzer I’m 🇬🇧
Once you study history more, you will find that india and china was here before europe. So some could have been both...
@@caniget600subscriberswitho5 I m Indian
well just stick with desi im tired of telling people im not from a tribe
Ah yes, the series that ended with Part 0.
Maybe the other 9 parts got smallpox
@@johnistvanffy8603 Oh that's a really clever reference. Loved it!
It took him for 4 years I think to make this so
Maybe it's like the Yakuza games. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 0, 6, 7.
I thought there was a part 2
As a Native American I personally refer as myself as a native just because there’s no confused with Indians referring to someone who is from India
Now we know "American Indians" are from Asia, and it wasn't even directly form India, not for 60,000 years anyways. More It was really Siberia, Korea, Japan, and Kazakhstan, not India. Possibly also Mongolia, China, Taiwan and Southeast Asia.
Same, I know many people from India so I just call myself Native
THANK YOU
@@JamesSmith-by3qy Now we know "Europeans" are from Asia, and it was Central Asia.
@@Sporkonafork1 complete lie, do some research
People accuse Valve of being unable to count to 3. Many fear that CGP Grey cannot get to 1.
“We can now move on too the next part”
*over 1 year later*
Two years later.
Grunion Shaftoe Nah just one and change so far
To be fair, it was _quite_ a year...
*to
@Lego and guitar dude 2 five years
So this is why Grey was driving in the middle of nowhere USA.
:: Taps nose ::
CGP Grey Either you did something intentionally to make it seem like it was just a random trip or you come off as just that kind of person that would take such a trip - probably a mix of both? Regardless, well played :)
"Nowhere USA" feck aff.
Drove to ...reservations
I was wondering if that could be you that flew past me on the highway in Northern Arizona with part of the license plate being "GREY?"
At this rate I'll probably establish myself as dictator of a small nation before CGP Grey releases Part 1.
Well don't lose your keys.
CGP Grey: "We can now move on to the next part."
Galadriel: "But they were, all of them, deceived; for another part was not made."
He's actually going to deliver on that sacred promise: "But that's a story for another time"
we did it reddit lol
There's nothing sacred about the Sequels
There are so many "for other time" im amazed hes delivering it
@@Mexican00b I swear if he does an updated Brexit video I'll lose my damn mind lol
Finally Makes Sense I thought that too when I got the notification of this too lmao
"Possibly the far future"
*Uploaded 30 minutes ago*
Yes indeed
Martin Anthonio16 you realize this video will probably exist for years right?
-(though if CZcams keeps on doing what it’s doing then this comment might have merit than it should)-
(Skates by on hoverboard)
NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURD
Greetings from the distant future of one hour later. We find your primitive ways fascinating.
@ spoken like an athropologist
Eric Lee are you saying the country is bad and dumb or the federal government?
"I'm not some kind of modified-American. I'm an American, and I'm an Indian." That's how a Menominee elder explained it to me. The term "Native-American" felt dismissive to him. I taught at a tribal college, and I went to conferences at tribal colleges all over the country, and the only elder I heard speak in favor of "Native American" was a Cherokee elder I saw on TV once. Everyone else who gave an opinion solidly preferred Indian. And yes, it's always ok to ask.
Thank boarding schools for that mentality, colonistic mindsets.
I sure am looking forward to go watch the next part! :D
As a Native Afro-Eurasian, I find this all very interesting.
Indubitabley.
As a native Earthling, I have to concur
As a thing formed from space dust, I also find this very interesting
As someone made of quarks, this was incredibly interesting.
As a thing that may or may not exist, I also find this very interesting.
This can’t be the real grey, he’s uploading too much
That's what I was thinking the algorithm had glitched about. XD
He probably built an AI that produces and uploads videos on his behalf.
Not just too much, but he's actually telling the stories for another time.
He spent 5 years uploading little because he was working on this project.
Must be a bot, QUICK, TO THE MAILING LIST !
Imagine aliens coming down to Earth, killing 90% of humans directly or indirectly, started calling Earth GjjahbThn, and now calls humans "Natuve GjjahbThnians" to make us feel better.
Grey: "Perhaps Far in the future"
Me: he's right 2 minutes is a long time.
Siberian Americans : this is the proper name for these people that brings proper perspective and uniformity with other Americans.
My uncle is faster.
55 mins
Technically he had to record and edit days/weeks before you saw it
You didn’t even get the quote right. Lol
"So who called them Indians? "
"Well, we did"
"And Who changed to Native Americans? "
"Well, we did"
"And you feel better"
"Yeah yeah much better"
Trevor Noah fan?
As an Asian Indian, I was told Christopher Columbus lost their way to India and stumbled upon America. That's why they thought the Americans were Indians and called them that.
@@net_lag That is true
XD
@@net_lag that's not the point, they were called indians by Americans (or Britain), and Americans then change it out of Americans' discomfort, without any considerate to the American Indians (or Native Americans) at all. That's the irony
I do harbor a hope that this series makes a return. It's a fascinating topic I was taught very little about, and I learned quite a bit from just this one video.
Thanks for making it Grey!
It will never have a sequel, this is Grey's A Song of Ice and Fire. It's so frustrating.
To this day I don't know if this idea was scrapped or he's STILL working on it all these years later.
“Part 0”
*Computer scientists liked that*
is "printf("%d",(1+i));" too hard?
Underrated comment.
@@tae_mx Yes because it has an unmatched parenthesis
@@IAmTheRealSteven stop harrasing me, compiler.
@@tae_mx 'i' is undefined.
'printf' is undefined, perhaps you meant to import stdio.h?
'main' is undefined.
'printf("%d",(1+i));' missing l-value
How’s Part 1 coming along, Grey?
Lmao
Yeah what the heck
Grey always takes his time. He's doing great
Probably got caught up with COVID since he’s gonna have to visit a lot of reservations abroad. But yeah it’s pretty ironic it has to be out on hold again after 5 years of wait lol
I am looking forward to part 1
friendly reminder: we always prefer to be called by specific names of our tribes, but if that isn't possible both indian and native American have issues. Indian has been used in a derogatory way for decades, and Native American is a title forced upon us which is uncomfortable because of the complicated legality of the land ownership.
I trust Grey, but it's nice to hear from an Indian (though very uncomfortable to write that. My brain is saying delete and put Native American)
I still feel like Native American is just *safer* to say, but I would never call someone out for saying "Indian". The argument from semantics falls flat, though; there's no real difference between the two colloquialisms, it's like arguing over the hundred different words for cannabis, using the origin and history of the word as a basis to determine some 'objective offensiveness'.
I will always support better representation and treatment for disadvantaged ethnic groups, including Native Americans, but I don't see how focusing on terminology helps anyone in any tangible way.
@@tomrogue13 All I'm trying to say is that they are equally bad and we kinda need a new term
in canada we tend to use the term "indigenous", native american is used far less often and i have almost never hear them called indians
If I find out someone I know or am speaking to is an Indian/Native/Indigenous and it comes up in conversation, I always ask what tribe. Once I know what tribe, I refer to them as being that instead of any of the other generalizations (unless they specify otherwise). Sure, it's a bit uncomfortable when basically asking "how do you want me to refer to your people?", and it can be harder to remember, but they almost always are happy you take the time to learn about them and at the same time, you likely will learn something about their people you never knew before. It's a win/win.
In this forum of youtube though, going with the general consensus makes the most sense. With that in mind, I don't think using "Indian" is bad.
Everyone here is like ""oh wow in my language it actually makes sense" while I'm sitting and wondering how come Grеy upload 4 videos in a week.
Shhhh, just let it happen and enjoy it
Miguel Alberola Cano
The quality hasn’t gone down.
The only difference is that these videos are slightly shorter than his older videos.
Same Quality, Higher Quantity, just less time per each.
Which makes sense as to why he is uploading so much, as he doesn’t have to write a massive script and can write shorter scripts much faster.
He also may have someone editing for him, I have no idea
Me too
@@freddykrueger8076 that was alot of thought into the matter
grey got put on hold by youtube...
"Thats a story for another time" pays off.
I was not expecting you here, DPad!
I did not know you are a cgp grey viewer d-pad!
@@pewdiepieisstillabadyoutub4490 :D
@@zacharyiguess Yeah, been watching for quite some years now.
Federal Land ✅
Troubles ✅
Indian Reservations ✅
Free Will ❓
I live in Washington State, which has quite a few reservations, some of which are rather large indeed.
At the outbreak of the pandemic, many tribes, including several on the Pacific coast, shut their borders immediately. No outsiders allowed, *at all.* We found that out the hard way on a road trip...
CGPGrey must certainly have run into similar trouble making Part 1 of this series, which is probably why it still hasn't been released close to three years later. Be patient, people. It's much harder for Grey to do what Grey does when he can't go in-person on-site to interview, explore, and get a feel for what he's talking about. Remember, this is a man who bought a plane ticket across the Atlantic to find an edition of a newspaper from three hundred years ago.
Viewer: When is part 1 coming out?
Grey: after im done with the airplanes.
Some people will get stuck on part 7, some in part 4 or even in part 1.
But not grey hes gonna get stuck on part 0...
Now, ain't that the most Grey thing ever.
there are always comments that say "haha welcome to grey" but they never explain why, so my question is why does this happen? is it schedule overlap?
@@blauwbeer556 It takes Grey a while to do his research, double check all his facts, run his scripts by professionals, and all the similar things needed to ensure his information is as accurate as he can make it. Between getting banned, Covid and other sudden opportunities, some videos may have taken priority over others. Also, as an unfortunate note, this could very well have been dropped because of his suspension, Grey realized a topic like this was going to get his channel banned. I hope it's the former reasons, but it's hard to be 100% sure.
Edit: I double checked dates, his suspension ended then he released this video, so who knows.
@@minecraft15555 i mean sure but grey himself did spend *years* to ask questions, to make topics and do research. the fact that he didn't upload a part 1 in the last year even after years of research is odd even for grey. and the suspension thing, ngl i don't see why grey would get a suspension by talking about indians. yeah sure, covid takes is the priority but pirates? did he seriously just give up after such a big project or is it still worked on eventhough he worked on it for years. i am actually so confused.
@@minecraft15555 if you watch his video on the topic, you will learn that his account was suspended for faultly thinking it is impersonating him ... for some reason.
Clearly a stupid ai mistake.
@@blauwbeer556 that's the cost of quality mate.
For anyone wondering where the follow up video is, I imagine he wanted to do some in person research in the States for this series. Covid probably pushed this back for the foreseeable future
What he already did in person research in the States for this video tekoi and the longest road
@@davidberry1618 But neither of those had him talking to people in person.
I think he’s already done a lot of in person reserch
@@woodsytheowlscharedcorpse4761 he probably did talk to people in person, he probably didn't show it on camera because of privacy and all that
In "Grey was wrong" he talks about his mistake with the tekoi video and says that he was visiting idian reservations so i imagine he is still working on it.
The longest-running series on CZcams with zero episodes?
So "Native American" can be confused for indigenous tribes in various different continents of the America's but "Indian" doesn't confuse the indigenous in North America with people from India?
In a lot of other languages there are different words for the people who live in the county India, and the people who lived in america before USA was established, if the languages the american Indians uses also have different words for those 2 things it will make more sense (but i dont actually know)
In Italian we say "american indian" for natives and "indian" for the asian ones, seeing native Americans being referred as "indians" alone is very rare and it's almost always used in cases were confusion is impossible, like western movies
In some other languages the terms can actually differ slightly. In German, the word for the american indians is „Indianer“ and for the indians of india it is „Inder“. So these are close to one another bug slightly different as well to not confuse them.
Latinoamerica also use "Indian" to refer to the original people of the continent
asian indians do not commonly interact or live near reservations
Everyone’s gangsta until the animator animates breathing.
I once had my Google Home "sigh" audibly, it freaked me out so much I threw it out.
I prefer my robots monotonous and precise, if I wanted to hear a person speak I'd hire an assistant.
@@iwiffitthitotonacc4673 it's google *assistant*
Jay L you ok?
I wanna like your comment but it has 666 likes sooooo
Once my Google Assistant sang for me... it was so unexpected that I almost dropped my phone
grey: perhaps long in the future
me: *watches this video 3 minutes after uploading*
This script could have been written years ago.
same
That's not the point. The point is that any recording is essentially timeless.
No matter when you hear what's said in it, it is in the future of when it was said.
@@NLTops i know
Or 26+3
Excited for part 1
"This has been 1300 words in an attempt to explain one."
Philosophy in a nutshell.
Then an actual Indian from India appears and get things more confused.
1.3 billion of us actually stacked against the 6.9 million "native americans"
Well back in the late 1990s I worked for a Indian form India and drove some of his family around Columbus Ga for him, and well we got talking about the people in south Columbus and I said a that I was one quarter Indian and there was an instance change in attitude to me until i said I was form the Muskogee band of Indians, which confused the Indians form India to no end, until I said American Indian, not Indian Indian like in a western movie and they all went Ah....And i could see the gears truing in there heads..
One Indian and they are from India.
@angry troll *diamonds/diamond-shaped crystals
Ironically, if you look back on history, the first people to be called Indian were the Native Americans.
So the terms I've heard most working with Apaches are:
1. Natives
2. Indians
Pretty much never the full "Native American."
In Canada we call them First Nations, as a general term. But you can narrow it down to the Mi’kmaqq, Inuit, and Blackfoot. From there you can only differentiate them by the specific tribes.
@@coolperson8272 I'm gonna assume the difference between those three is similar to the difference between a Mediterranean, slav, and a Scandinavian?
@@coolperson8272 that's three of the at least 50 different first nations across Canada. Mi'kmaq are Maritimes into NB, Blackfoot confederacy was 4 nations across Montana, Saskatchewan and Alberta, and Inuit is actually a grouping of a few culturally similar artic nations. there's a lot of gaps with just your list.
@@wyattroncin941 I know, lmao. I’m not going to list them all, am I?
Eskimo is actually better than Inuit
Can we though Grey? Can we move on to the next part?
Now that Reservations in my home state of New Mexico are starting to open back up for visitors you can start working on the next part on this series (if you want to, no pressure
Wait grey delivered on his promise:
“But thats a story for another time”
My first thought
After all these years...how many other stories for another times can we get?
Still waiting for that family genetics video
"We have always been at war with Afro-Eurasia."
Underappreciated comment
Yes we have
I just love our allies at Afro-Eastasia
All hail Oceania.
We have always been Allies with east aisa
I personally use the term “Native American” just because the term “Indian” is confusing language for me as I live in New Jersey where we have a huge South Asian population, many of whom from the country of India. But informative video.
Hard to believe the entire series started here. What a ride!
As a Shawnee "Native American" I honestly don't care, because that's what people have described me as. Hell, I even describe myself as an Indian. I feel like sometimes people try to represent natives as whites. They feel like, "Oh, they don't have the platform" when we really do. I don't find Indian offensive, and I can see why others do, but it feels like white people are being offended for us.
(Also it was cool to see my tribe in that big list LOL)
“you have to call them that because thats the more politically term”
I say Native American as to not cause confusion with Indians from India.
It's more of voice memory for me to call native Americans indians
That's much of what the BLM movement is now -- whites being offended for blacks
@@jahenders i mean, check the protest demographics. whites arent turning out all that much.
ah yes, im a native Afro-Eurasian
I'd like to think you are a French guy with an afro living in China
@@shino4242 XD
@@shino4242 Made my day LOL!
Haha same I come from the English tribe
@@onespicysauce6599 nice, im from the Norwegian tribe
In Australia we got rid of this problem by just calling everyone "mate" or "cu*t".
I once mentioned to a colleague that I'm 13% Native American, only to hear her reply: "So you can apply to college for cheaper!" to which I concluded: "From Brazil".
Oh.... - she said.
I don't understand the obsession Americans have with percentages, I'm lithuanian i don't care what percentage Greek i am because I'm not greek
@@nojnavick my DNA does not tell who I am, so certainly can tell where I came from. Acknowledging my heritage is an important step to me. I understand your feeling and your will not to know or care about your past, but it's soothing to me. :)
Can't believe we are finally getting the story for another time
Next up, Settlers of Catan
As an Indian(i.e. a person from India), it's so weird to hear Americans talking about Indians whilst not actually referring to Indians.
exactly!!
We are referring to Indians. Just not your type of Indian
@@harrysonofbob But they we never from India.
Jay My understanding (and probably something to remember) is that the word “India” and “Indian” are entirely English creations. Indian in Hindi (according to translate) is “bharatiya”. It might be advantageous for us to start referring to the people from the Asian subcontinent by their native Hindi name “bharatiya” and “bharat” and Just re-purposed the word “Indian” to refer to the western hemisphere indigenous people. Either way this is a very confusing conundrum, we could just call native Americans “American Indians”, or ditch the label game entirely.
@@dday881 It's a spanish creation.
Just watched this, can't wait for part 1!
Part 1 coming soon 2029
On a more serious note, if you want a video about Indigenous people in America you can go to Knowing Better channel. I think it provides a thorough explanation
Part 1 of this series is the most anticipated video in the history of CZcams.
I would like to point out we watched a 6 minute prerequisite.
Welcome to Indian Law in the U.S.A it's long it's dense and it's difficult, that would be why Tribes lose higher % cases in the Supreme Court than Convicted felons. When you need a prereq to even understand the language and its consequences how are you ever going to get to the issues?
@@carlpetersen3147 This isn't a prereq to understand the language.
This is a prereq to understand the *name*
@@deathbower a name is language, I was referring to the complexity of everything adjacent to understanding the issues of Native people.
@@carlpetersen3147 He's agreeing with your general point by emphasizing that we haven't even gotten to language yet. Just the first word. And it still takes a whole video to explain.
trigger warning video lol
Asian Indians: finally a worthy Indian, our confusion will be legendary
Hahaha best joke reference ever
True
I relate to this
This is hilarious and sadly relatable.
Ya
This reminds me if "Latine" vs "latinx", including the more common one invoking 'surprising' reactions to finding out how external and artificial the outside-formulated latter seems to many of the groups described in the first place
I’m a proud native earthling and I find this very informative about our society
Probably a lot of people will see this in 9 years when youtube randomly recommends this to them
Sosi yeah lol
Unless coppa kills it, of course
My Indian friend-
Oh, which tribe?
India...
Which state?!
Yeah to be fair the indian subcontinent is plenty diverse on its own, apparently it has over 700 languages.
nomnomnomey Sauce on avi?
@@fds7476 Which group?!
India, like the Native "Americans", are super diverse
@Sandcastle • DIversity in terms of culture and languages.
Would love to finally see a Part 1 on this!
Idk how everyone else feels but I was really looking forward to this series, I would love to see part 1
In Portuguese we have:
Índio - Someone native of the American continent
Indiano - Someone from India.
In germany we have Indianer (native Americans) and Inder (People from India)
Then what do you call someone from Indiana?
@@abren5974 Einwohner Indianas
Indigena is other option as well.
@@paulomelettilestrade for what ?
Talking with a Navajo friend.
Q: Do you prefer Indian or Native American?
A: I actually prefer Nathan because that is who I am.
Touche!!
ThAt's nOt thE qUeStiOn ThOUgH...
@@Maxime_K-G Insert stupid r/woooosh but the guy doing the r/woooosh gets wooshed cause he didn't understand that the guy was joking.
so everyone in their tribe is a "Nathan"???
@@Mitaka.Kotsuka - He simply wishes to be his own person. I respect that.
I am a Margie not a colored person not a person of color
Come on CCP, finish the series ...
reminds me of how the word latinx is barely used by actual latinos
"Latinx" barely made any sense to begin with (it doesn't even follow the grammar of any Latin languages!?) so it's even worse than "native American"
Hé didn’t lie, he actually did the story another time
RIGHT??! The mad lad!
I don't get the reference
He said in the national land video that Indian reservations are a story for another time
What
@@woosix7735 thank you very much for explaining the reference
I am a Asian guy living on a native reserve. When I first moved there I used Native American and I got the most deadpan uncomfortable looks.
Just say Native, or Indian. Personally I prefer if people just call us the name of our tribe.
@@Xd-uq5zo Feels weird. I would not like it if people referred to me by my genetic heritage and I'm not sure I can do that to a person and feel okay with it.
@@Barnaclebeard So you're against calling Germans "Germans"?
Why are you living on one?
Sakakaka I think they’re saying they want to be referred to by nationality instead of ethnicity. I myself am an example, as a Singaporean-Chinese, I would much rather be referred to as a Singaporean than a Chinese person.
When will we be blessed with the next installment of "this series"? Is "this series" something you are still researching or just abandoned? Or was it all just a big tease from the outset?
Gotta say I love how you use magic cards when taking about "lands". Noticed it in other videos and it is amazing.
>"In this series I'll use indian"
Oh, no. This is just an introduction, is this how you write essays? It's too good for me
Yes this is exactly how you write an essay
Finally, someone who defines terms before getting into main arguments. Refreshing.
L
I would consider this more of a preface than part of an actual essay, which might be why it's labeled "part 0". Not a lot of information seen in this video will likely have any significant relevance to the upcoming series. It's just clarification for the language . If it didn't exist, it'd either end up being a footnote or some people would just be a little distracted by his perceived insensitive language, so Grey would have to clarify via a Reddit comment or something.
tl;dr - The essay hasn't even begun.
Is the word "Red Indian" racist? That's how I learnt from school.( I'm from India)
"... to call someone from here, here, or here [the same thing] would make it so difficult for that person to identify with."
*Asians have entered the chat*
Why people use memes in text format is insane to me.
I mean you r not wrong
But you don't have laws in your countries that says "Asians"
@@tubeguy4066 We did. The Asian Exclusion Act barred all Asians from immigrating to the United States. It's actually why the US government considers Arabs to be white, since a Lebanese man went all the way to the Supreme Court.
@@Meirstein that's really interesting. i was always confused by Arabs being considered white
One of the best series in CZcams and it hasn't even gotten into part 1 yet.
Grey: starts a series that technically doesn't have a part 1 2 years ago
Also grey: hey kid, wanna learn about American highways?
Now American runways*
In my school they never said “Indian” they always said Native American even more so around me cause my parents are from India
I can see how that could be confusing. :-)
Indian: dot or feather.
NevilleTheDevil Is Yes bet there were a bunch of white guys saying it 😅
In German it is quite easy to make a distinction. "Inder" are the people from India and "Indianer" are the people from North America.
@@barreloffun10 Feathered Indian
3:28 Are we really not going to acknowledge the fact that CGP Grey has been doing these shows out of Royal Albert Hall this whole time!?
Michael Lyden I guess not...
you haven’t seen one of his videos in person?
you haven’t seen one of his videos in person?
you haven’t seen one of his videos in person?
You haven’t seen a CGP Grey video in person?
The funny thing is, I've heard that some groups in India would be interested in pressing for a name change to their country and identity. And if that were to happen, the word Indian might truly become owned exclusively by the natives here.
I am an Indian Indian, commenting to confuse people who don’t know India.
“This series”
>uploaded 2 months ago
Ok then
4 months and counting
welcome to the channel!
I mean, this video was the quota for 2019 *and* 2020. See you in 2021.
The Blue Phoenix: Captain Gamer 2021? We're going out in April!
Guys, you can't expect a promised follow-up from another video out of Grey for at least 2 years.
well, in germany there can be no confusion.
the indians on the asian continent are called "Inder"
and the native americans are called "Indianer"
In Finnish intialainen=person from India. Intiaani=American Indian.
@Ahura Dana who calles themselves aryans?
@Ahura Dana What have nazis anything to do with anything relating to this video?
@Ahura Dana no they didnt. they called themselves Arier. get your facts straight man -.-
True in many other languages as well, although sometimes the difference is minimal and hard to immediately spot. In russian for example, it is literally one letter - Индейцы (Indians from USA) vs Индийцы (Indians from India).
How’s part 1 going?
even the sonic 3 bonus video has come out, weve been waiting this long
And then things get wonderfully confusing when you, like me, live in a place with both a notable American Indian population *and* a notable Indian Indian population.
(Granted, the American Indian folks around here often default to "indigenous", which does make things easier. Though whether they actually prefer that term or are simply trying to accommodate others, I can't say with certainty. Though honestly I find it easier to just say Lummi or Nooksack if I know which local nation they're from, or Salish if I don't know which specific local tribe they're from.)
@@mr.incorporeal7642 Watching this as a Canadian was kind of weird - a lot of the same tribes span both countries, but I've definitely never heard anyone refer to themselves as a Native American (unless they were also an American citizen). Here it's usually First Nations or Indigenous.
@@ES315 Yeah, we're close enough to the border that "First Nations" is also used some.
West Indie and East Indie are what they called it in the early day.
indian indian population... yeah it works imma adopt this
Well "Indian" is what we got. Still though I suppose it can also mean like, "Indigenous"
Quick, someone switch “podcaster” and “youtuber” on his wikipedia again.
@TheBrodsterBoy on his wiki page, youtuber or podcaster comes first depending on if his latest release(product?) is a youtube video or a podcast.
@TheBrodsterBoy During his months-long absence he was still actively podcasting, i.e. that would've been considered his primary role in public life, so the joke is that that would've been reflected in his Wikipedia article; and so now that he's started uploading once more, this is no longer the case
we could combine it to podtuber or youcaster two horribly sounding meaningless words
@@markmayonnaise1163 Grey we know its you and stop explaining jokes.
@@Starforce00 just because middle school teachers didn't understand exactly how wikipedia works doesn't mean it's a bad place to start when looking for information
Love this series
Congrats on the 2 year anniversary of this video :D
I dislike the word indian for one reason. When ever I say I'm half indian they ask me what tribe.
lol
@Vlodec no bc he's not native American, he's Indian
@Vlodec Country in south Asia!!
@Vlodec maybe he means Indian from India.
just say dots not feathers
CGP will have a mental breakdown when he finds out we also call them Indians in south america
And in Canada, though lots of people and also the government have started to use "First Nations" or "Inuit" (depending on which area they're from, Inuit is Arctic and First Nations is everywhere else to my knowledge).
No, we don't. There's a difference between "indígena" and "indio". I've only ever heard "indio" to refer to the natives from old people, from certain regions who are purposefully trying to be offensive.
(Your experience, of course, may vary, and that's the problem with generalization)
Daniel Silva did you watch the video?
@@DanielSilva-qf6nf
En españa a los "Nativo americanos" se les llama indios y no tiene connotacion negativa en uso general
@@SoeZ-M4 Por eso hago la aclaración de que depende del sitio. En todo caso, el OP hablaba de sur américa y como sur americano puedo afirmar que esa generalización no es cierta
This is going to be the best "Just wait for it, it will be awsome" moment when part one comes out
most of the people in my friends/family who are native use indigenous/ indian when describing the 'whole' but use Chickasaw to describe themselves as a specific group. this video really helped me understand a lot more about word association that i didnt before.
Oh my GOD. CGP is *actually* doing one of the 'stories for another time'. The world is ending.
Kilo101 when did he mention it originally?
@@alexanderpalmieri8448 in his American Empire video and in another one about federal land
he already did with federal land within the who owns the statue of liberty vid
Probably just in case YT won't be viable past the new year? YT is cracking down on 'kid-friendly' content. No ads AND they'll fine you if your channel looks 'kid-friendly' enough!
It's not the real Grey. Somebody stole his identity.
TIL: CGP Grey is filmed in front of a live studio audience
Not just a studio. It's the Royal Albert Hall
5 years to produce part zero, that means only 3 more years until part 1 bois!
Trying to explain this series to someone
“It came out in November 2019 and part one came out in December 2028”
3:27 I never considered that Grey visualizes himself as the lecturer to hundreds of people in a giant theater, but it honestly makes perfect sense. Great bit of lore for this channel.
Edit: I've been informed that it's most likely Royal Albert Hall, because of the organ. Just in case people were wondering.
I think it's the faraday lecture theatre at the Royal Institute
@@astraios3473 oh you're right! thanks, man.
Nah mate I swear it's the royal Albert Hall. There's an organ in the back.
Im not so sure that he does. I think that it was just for affect because when you are sitting in a audio booth surrounded by nothing but foam and a mic I bet its hard to imagine a huge audience especially when you can do as many takes as you wish. But I did think that was a cool moment.
In Greek, American Indians and Indians from India have different names. American Indians are called "Indianoi" and Indians from India are called "Indoi"
In Portuguese, American Indians are called "Índios" and Indians from India are called "Indianos" and the term ”Índios" is used to describe the whole continente.
And along came us, the indonesian.😂😂
Wouldn't it create confusion? They are so similar.
@@sriharshacv7760 In swedish we say indianer and indier which look similar but when spoken or read by a sweden They can immidently tell the difference, i’m guessing it’s the same for the greeks
same in Russian, its индеец(indeets) for American Indians, and индус(indus) for Indian Indians
thank you for this. would love to see the next part(s) frame treaty land through current ‘land back’ movement.
you missed a tribe on your list of federally recognized tribes... :( the Snoqualmie tribe may be small but we are very proud to be recognized in the eyes of the nation as one of the longest standing tribes of the western coast
I LOVE that you put in "Overinclusivity" as it is SUCH a thing people don't talk about. I didn't know there was a name for it, but I'm so glad you made a video with it!
Greetings Native Earthlings.
But "indian" is also used to describe native latin american people, here in Brazil for example we call them "indios", that argument doesn't make much sense when you know that.
LGBTQIA+... just saying.
@@InverseAgonist I don't quite see your point. The issue with LGBTQ people is not that the umbrella terms we employ to describe them are too inclusive, but rather that, by definition, they can never be inclusive enough. LGBTQ people are not defined by what they are, but by what they are not. They are non-conforming to Western heteronormative and hegemonic ideas of sexuality and gender. Hence, any acronym we try to make up to describe them will never be able to encompass all identities of the people who see themselves as belonging to that set of persons. 'LGBTIQ+', therefore, is not too inclusive, but still too exclusive. It would be much more preferable if the acronym of descriptors could be done away with and, for example, simply the word 'queer' could be adopted for all such people. Of course, the word 'queer' comes with issues of its own, but it does seem like especially younger people choose to go with this option, perhaps precisely because, as the Indian Americans have, they have appropriated a term originally employed by their oppressors. Do you disagree with that assessment?
@@caiawlodarski5339 yes but Indios, although similar, I believe is different in meaning and pronunciation. Also they are different languages, in English you would probably say they are indigenous to South America or the amazon, andes etc to my knowledge there is no specific word