These kinds of locks are given out with new/used guns sold by the shops in my area. The bigger store actually has a donation bin for these locks because no one wants or trusts them, so they basically dump the locks in the bin on their way out. lord knows how many times those locks almost make it out the door before they get abandoned to do it all over again.
@@Scuba128 O rly? Because I am strangely sure even if these were the best locks in the world, your typical brand of moron who buys guns to enlarge their g-peen BECUZ FRIDUMMM!one!!1! would throw it away anyway because these idiots are convinced they are the smartest people alive and know better than everyone else, just like similar kind of stupid whining against seat belts in cars or any number of other safety devices...
@@KuK137 I find that people who make blanket statements about entire groups of people are the "brand of moron" that I most typically run into. Save your anger and projection for the group think world you clearly live in.
At a party, a doctor complained to an attorney friend that people at parties always ask for free medical advice and what should he do? "Send them a bill," the attorney said. Good advice the doctor thought until he got the bill from his friend.
I propose The Chicken Bone Standard: If a lock can be picked with an unmodified chicken bone its designer and manufacturers shall be staked out in the town square and flogged with rubber chickens.
For stuff like gun locks and child safety, I'd love to see you using improvised tools that a child or teenager would actually be readily able to get their hands on, and not ready-made tools such as the jigglers and pick sets. If a kid can get a lock open with a few bent bobby-pins (picks), a cut piece of a coke can (shims), or some improvised jigglers made from some soup can steel that's been folded and cut, then we definitely know that the lock is on the "do not even think of buying" list.
The wafer jiggler he is using is just a thin piece of metal with a knob at the end. A paperclip or shim of a soda can would work just as well. Anything thin enough to fit inside would probably work.
@@bardfinn can confirm. As a kid I used to break into my dads secure storage box to 'borrow' money (I was 9 give me a break). It had a wafer lock. All I needed was a my piggy bank key and some shaking.
In the previous building we lived my girlfriend could use her nail to open the gate lock. You just had to insert any thin object and twist. Try leveling up your children's game by giving them paper sheets.
In the span of me turning around to hand my daughter her toy, LPL had opened it 3 times already. I literally had to watch the video again to find out what I'd missed.
Sander vd Donk yeah unless kids are classified as animals or plants. I’d bet by the time I was 8 (if you consider that a kid), I was probably 100x better shot than my dad (that’s not saying much, my mom can outshoot him... The first time my mom shot anything the first 5 skeet shots were perfect, the first few handgun shots she beat literally everyone there as she shot my uncle’s new 20th or something handgun so watching her outshoot him was hilarious, and so on. Literally an untrained mother besides and I quote my advice was “line up the little dot thing at the target centered between the two bumps and hold onto it” and she was a natural). My dad on the other hand... Yeah it’s literally a toss up if him or the 10 year olds at 4-H skeet/trap shooting will win (the good 10 year olds will win every time). Age doesn’t seem to have much to do with responsibility (oh trust me, you can be old but still an idiot...) or skill. So is it a bad idea to teach children how to responsibly handle tools? I mean sure you could say “hide under the bed and hope nobody rapes you” in a burglary while you’re possibly away, but sheesh, I’d like my kid to at least have a knife to defend themselves with (I think my first buck knife I was 2, maybe younger, my mom wasn’t happy when she found out my dad gave it to me, and yeah a two year old running around like any toddler is a terrible idea, but at 7-9 years old you probably know how to handle one at least from helping cook in the kitchen). So what age though, 12? I mean I think that’s old enough for say a .22, sure it’s enough to kill but as long as you’re teaching your kid how to use the tool properly I don’t see why not, I mean they can legally drive motorcycles and die on the road at age 14 in the US (as I commuted to school by motorcycle at age 14). Technically they can legally fly airplanes at any age as well (ultralights, thinking about getting a 60 HP biwing personally, I’m an aerospace engineer so I love planes). Why would they need to be 10+ years old to learn and be allowed to operate firearms? That would be silly, by then it would be too late and they probably wouldn’t have learned it young enough to take it seriously, engrain safety at a young age!
"This is the Lock Picking Lawyer and today we are going to break into the gold safe at Fort Knox." *7 minuets pass* "...a click on pin 8 and we got this open, you know the old say 'whoever has the gold makes the rules' so I guess that make me LockPickingPresident, in any case, thats all i have for you today, if you have any thoughts of rebellion, they will be crushed"
@@grahvis safety is a flavor of control. Control is an illusion. Irrespective of caution, equipment, or qualification... If ever you think yourself safe, you can be certain you're mistaken.. [the general you, not you specifically, though not not-you]
@@thomasneal9291 I was a child who grew up in a household with guns. They were never locked up away from me, I always had access to them, but I was raised to respect them and educated so they didnt have a mystique about them, so I never fooled with them like kids who weren't taught responsibility and respect. The gun isnt the issue, it's the lazy parents who dont educate their kids correctly. Locks are not a substitute for education and respect
I had a gun lock and my rake pick was the exact bitting of the key. I wouldn’t use them as when I was a kid I remember seeing in the moves people picking doors with bent paper clips and to be honest it would work on these locks.
To be fair, having seen what LPL and others can do to some of the products called a "gun safe" in America, not all things are safe in all safes. But yes, a decent safe with decent walls and a decent lock, and hinges that can't be drilled / lifted (or have a shape that dropping the hinge does not open the door) is a minimally useful way of storing things that go bang.
I have no doubt that LPL could enter it with a turkey feather, stethoscope, and an opener to a pop can, but I'd still like to see it! Its a Liberty Presidential safe with electronic lock. Have at it!
You didnt point out that the "shackle" can be cut with decent kitchen shears. had to do it myself once as i use one of these as a trailer lock and lost the key.
What kitchen sheers did you use? Because mine wouldn’t cut easy. I used these daisy chained (just like zip-ties for extra length) to secure my bicycle (one of my few bikes not stolen), they aren’t super heavy duty obviously but they don’t cut that easy. You’d need small bolt cutters at least. Maybe they changed the quality or something on them, mine are like 10 years old.
You make a great point about false sense of security. It genuine troubled me considering the possibility of a gun owner with children using this and taking safety for granted. I love how your channel increases awareness about these types of issues!
Tried to leave a comment on one of the other videos you did about the Firearms lock... this one will do just as fine.... I was in the consumer industry for a while selling these types of locks to my customers, I had a little bit of a hard time describing to them why these locks were not very good for locking up "Firearms" and other devices of this nature to prevent theft; but many of the locks if not 90% of them are just junk, simply junk and I really thank you for getting into the mechanical aspect of these devices so that these people can actually see what I'm talking about ......thank you again!
The obvious one is a hairpin. You could probably cut something out of a fast food plastic knife or fork or grind down a toothbrush handle or chopstick. LPL could probably use a wet noodle.
@@maanvis81 Well...I suppose you're right. As a father who brought home firearms, I realized it was my duty to educate my kids on the proper safety and handling. There are no accidental shootings, only the negligence of individual handling the firearm. But to each their own.
I just checked and in the Netherlands, where I live, you are 6.5 times less likely to get murdered. So I'm sorry for being a bit misunderstanding here about guns, now I understand better why you need them, the USA is a lot more dangerous.
You should use some common household item to try and open it, if it's a lock which is really easy to open. That should give some concerned people a better perspective, like a tool from a nail cutting kit or something like that.
I would love to see a series of videos where the LPL picks several of these open using various items found around the house (hair pin, paper clips, etc, etc). When I was a child, I tried to pick or shim a lot pf locks, but I had no access to purchased tools. I managed to open a desk, a metal cabinet, and my older sister's diary (I believe all wafer and warded locks), but it took lots of hours. All of these had to be non destructive entries, for obvious reasons. I never did manage my front door lock, my parents bedroom lock, or any pad lock.
In Lithuania if you want to own a firearm you must own a safe to keep it when you are not carrying it. I know there are terrible safes too, but if you have at least a decent safe it solves a lot of this kind of problems.
As always people just patting each other on the back that they are doing something for the community, but no one checks what the effect is in practice. No one but yourself and your aunt I guess LOL.
@@juicyfruit6311 And good enough for our third-world variant of a first-world nation. People are just too stubborn and "gubment will take ma guns!" to see any actual progress made. Now I think of it.... those people accepted big companies screwing them over. Maybe if a major company did something radical and yelled "but jobs!" we'd see something happen.
Send one to him and bet him 5 bucks to get it open in under a minute! Hell I'll throw a couple bucks in to have him send it back to you when he's done.
@@CrashRacknShoot Great idea i think i will do just that and send him a few of them - I have one with no brand name on it which i just have no clue where to start it has a crazy key and very hard to get both the pick and tension in at the same time.
its amazing how companies take advantage of people when there's high demand on a product. people buy it because they want the result it promises, without ever checking into how well it delivers on that promise.
Probably would be easier to just buy a metal box and pay a locksmith to install a good lock to it (with some welding for the internal lock body holders
My dad traded in a Beretta 9mm for a bolt action Remington 22 rifle when my brother was little as he thought it would be safer. Gun stored in parent's closet loaded and no lock. The main security was the fact that if you went into the parents' bedroom unsupervised, let alone the closet, you were risking a beating.
Mari Onette awesome firearms the sigs are super reliable have yet to have a misfire or a failure to eject EVER. That’s prob. Why the secret service used to carry them not too sure if they do anymore. What’s not reliable are those project childsafe gun locks! Not to sure how old LPL’s is but mine is from prob. 15 yrs ago if not older. Easy to rake weird to pick lol
Před 4 lety+3
No point in having a gun for safety if it has a lock
I love how you choose the perfect words to say the truth whilst trying not to be insulting or impolite in any way. Like here, where you are basically explaining that this lock is completely useless and we all know and see it, but you use just the right words to not "accuse" or attack anybody. Keep up the good work!
Thats dumb. If its a bolt action I have removed those and kept them seperate from the rifles. Not great, but slows someone down or prevents them from having a functioning firearm in a smash and grab.
I have a handful of these things. You can actually break all the armor lengths by hand by squeezing a kink in the cable and then that will let you slid the armor bits down enough to get a simple wire cutter into the cable center.
The first locks I ever picked was a silly bathroom door lock and I used a bobby pin. I was not old enough to read when I did that. The special tool you used to defeat this isn't really available to children, but this might be a good lock to use to demonstrate how various random objects that are available to children might be used. Things I tried, at that age, that did work with some success: Bobby pins, paper clips, LEGO swords, LEGO spears, wire twist tie from the bread loaf.
I actually was just noting these kinds of locks at my local gun shop (most of their handguns come with a similar factory one), and remarking on just how easily it would be for LPL to pop one of these open - then he uploads a vid doing just that! I must be learning something about lock quality from this channel. =D
I feel like gun locks are more along the lines of a LOTO (lock out tag out) lock. It's more there as a redundancy. Just as a good way of knowing that the weapon is clear and safe. Not to keep someone out more of keep someone from being a dumbass.
I keep saying it: Most of these "gun safes and locks" are made solely so people who live in states with safe storage requirements like Massachusetts can flash it to law enforcement and say "See? There's a lock on it like there's supposed to be" and send the officers on their way and out of their hair.
I have always enjoyed your video's and this one is no exception. However, even though I understand your point, one must also consider there is a huge difference between a child and young teenager. Excample, access to a wafer jiggler and watching your video's in how to open locks. For myself with no experience, I now know how to open this type of lock. Case in point.
A paperclip that has been grooved by a squeeze in the middle section would be more than adequate to open this lock. If I can defeat it, my children are clever enough to get through it
This makes me think of the free safes a police department handed out to officers. Then when a child got shot the parents were blamed for not locking up the handgun. After hiring experts it was determined the locked safe could be unlocked by lifting it up and then dropping it from around six inches.
Notice he said adolescent - because instead of his tools a teen could use any number of things (nail file) for example which I used as a teen to get into drawers and cabinets I wasn't supposed to be in
I was tasked with the same lock. It was on a hasp , and if you put as little as 2.5 pound weight on the base, it's lock will no longer be in working order, rendering it out of commission.
Please offer suggestions to a good cause like them on how to improve their hardware! You know and could be very beneficial to America's well-being if you work in concert with their cause! Fantastic video as usual!
@@marionette5968 Try again but instead of calling the entire concept of trigger locks/gun locks "dumb and for dumb people" offer a critique productive to the fact that the technology DOES exist and IS being iterated on constantly with the IDEAL of HAVING them be useful! What you offered may feel "smart" but is really a looot of hot air in relation to the discussion of improving said technology!
Really makes you wonder about how this went so wrong. As LPL said, the project aim is commendable, but how could they miss the mark so badly? Someone (probably even a group of someones) went to the trouble to create the program, publicize it, purchase and distribute the locks etc, but didn't do any basic research or testing of the quality of the product itself - effectively flushing all their other work down the toilet. How does this happen? Would love to learn the back story on this.
What would be available instead of the wafer jiggler for opening the lock? It would be interesting to see some of the locks defeated with things available around the house, not lock picks.
I bought one of the training kits from Covert Industries about a month ago, and have now defeated every lock in my house. I suck at raking, but SPP takes a handful of seconds in most cases. I take this to mean locks are terrible and not as an indicator of my superior skill. The gun lock that came with who even knows which pistol was the worst. It was actually harder to close it again and get my turning tool back out than it was to open the lock.
All locks are designed to keep the honest person honest. Shakespeare stated, "best safety lies in fear". So wherever it SEEMS most dangerous... is where you will the safest spot. ;) Great Video @ LockPickingLawyer
Nice Sig, by the way. The sheriff's office gives out the same lock and my 3 children were unable to remove it. I lost a key and messed around briefly then just cut it off. They certainly work against kids or adults who know nothing about locks.
We as the gun community should, as we do with handling protocols, come up with a set of protocols for gun secureing. There are too many gizmos promising cheap peace of mind. If we don't, the government will. And they wont do their homework.
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"NOT FOR RESALE"
"We'd get sued if we sold this."
Which only says they should be sued for making it SO POORLY.
These kinds of locks are given out with new/used guns sold by the shops in my area. The bigger store actually has a donation bin for these locks because no one wants or trusts them, so they basically dump the locks in the bin on their way out. lord knows how many times those locks almost make it out the door before they get abandoned to do it all over again.
@@Scuba128 O rly? Because I am strangely sure even if these were the best locks in the world, your typical brand of moron who buys guns to enlarge their g-peen BECUZ FRIDUMMM!one!!1! would throw it away anyway because these idiots are convinced they are the smartest people alive and know better than everyone else, just like similar kind of stupid whining against seat belts in cars or any number of other safety devices...
@@KuK137 just like you are convinced that you are smarter than the guy who buys guns and throws the useless locks away.
@@KuK137 I find that people who make blanket statements about entire groups of people are the "brand of moron" that I most typically run into. Save your anger and projection for the group think world you clearly live in.
*LockPickingLawyer:* You get what you pay for.
*Me:* That's some good free advice.
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...Wait a second...
It's not free--it's pro bono. There's a difference.
At a party, a doctor complained to an attorney friend that people at parties always ask for free medical advice and what should he do? "Send them a bill," the attorney said. Good advice the doctor thought until he got the bill from his friend.
@@ignatz33 Do as I say, not as I do. :D
Not free, paid for with ad revenue
Sam Schwinghammer notice his videos are rarely monetized and notice there is no ad on this video. I wonder if he has a sponsor ?
Most people become the IT expert for their relatives... Not him though, he's the lock expert for his relatives
Trust me, you can be both!
*lockpicks an old IBM case lock*
Are we cool yet?
@@jmr I am that both...and it kind of sucks.
@@ramrod126 Agreed! I had to take a lock off with a grinder only about 6 months after I told my dad not to buy it. The core rusted in that short time.
@@giornogiovanna729 Yes, we are.
I propose The Chicken Bone Standard: If a lock can be picked with an unmodified chicken bone its designer and manufacturers shall be staked out in the town square and flogged with rubber chickens.
Fair enough. Makes more sense than most of the laws for customer protection nowadays.
I think that would actually work.
@Lochness Monsta Oh, definitely. The scene would be incomplete without repeated, comedic *skeee HWAAAAANK* -ing.
And a video of the flogging posted online.
Problem is I'm pretty sure LPL could open ANY lock with an unmodified chicken bone from the dinner Bosnian Bill and he ate.
For stuff like gun locks and child safety, I'd love to see you using improvised tools that a child or teenager would actually be readily able to get their hands on, and not ready-made tools such as the jigglers and pick sets. If a kid can get a lock open with a few bent bobby-pins (picks), a cut piece of a coke can (shims), or some improvised jigglers made from some soup can steel that's been folded and cut, then we definitely know that the lock is on the "do not even think of buying" list.
look at vid 464
im sure it is a liability thing.
The wafer jiggler he is using is just a thin piece of metal with a knob at the end. A paperclip or shim of a soda can would work just as well. Anything thin enough to fit inside would probably work.
He's done it before with a Lego man and a cut-out piece of wire from a spiral notebook.
How about one opened with a twig.
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Now i feel bad giving my children wafer jigglers for christmas!
And Bobby Pins. And paperclips. Plastic forks. Hobby knives. Heck, even a tooth cleaner tool could likely open this lock.
@@bardfinn can confirm. As a kid I used to break into my dads secure storage box to 'borrow' money (I was 9 give me a break). It had a wafer lock. All I needed was a my piggy bank key and some shaking.
@@siggitiggi I used a nail file to open the locked cupboard in the bathroom. Wafer lock of course lol
I picked a bunch of locks as a kid with no knowledge and a paperclip or two.
In the previous building we lived my girlfriend could use her nail to open the gate lock. You just had to insert any thin object and twist. Try leveling up your children's game by giving them paper sheets.
In the span of me turning around to hand my daughter her toy, LPL had opened it 3 times already. I literally had to watch the video again to find out what I'd missed.
Hopefully you didnt give her new wafer jigglers!
I’ve learned my lesson. Under 2min, hit pause, refill coffee, lights cigarette, put on glasses, stare at screen and hit play.
_Removes rubber coating_
Ah ha! It was a master lock the whole time!
We would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for that damn Lockpicking Lawyer!
Did find similar lock sold under Mil-Tec name for securing guns ... its 4,90
@@wraitholme You've done it again LPL. But how did you figure it out?
Video under 2 minutes long...the word TERRIBLE in all caps in the title. Something tells me this is going to be a bad lock.
No way... What made you think so? :D
*Me:* Grabs the popcorn.
yeah it was worse than i first thought lol
@@RhinoBarbarian what's the point, the video will have been over before you could've grabbed a handful
@@rawovunlapin8201
Well, i could grab a handful assuming it was already popped. Eating it is another matter.
I think you misunderstand. These are clearly meant to keep children safe by making sure they can easily access a gun if they need to defend themselves
The 2nd amendment says that people have the right to bear arms. That includes kids, right?
Sander vd Donk yeah unless kids are classified as animals or plants.
I’d bet by the time I was 8 (if you consider that a kid), I was probably 100x better shot than my dad (that’s not saying much, my mom can outshoot him... The first time my mom shot anything the first 5 skeet shots were perfect, the first few handgun shots she beat literally everyone there as she shot my uncle’s new 20th or something handgun so watching her outshoot him was hilarious, and so on. Literally an untrained mother besides and I quote my advice was “line up the little dot thing at the target centered between the two bumps and hold onto it” and she was a natural). My dad on the other hand... Yeah it’s literally a toss up if him or the 10 year olds at 4-H skeet/trap shooting will win (the good 10 year olds will win every time).
Age doesn’t seem to have much to do with responsibility (oh trust me, you can be old but still an idiot...) or skill. So is it a bad idea to teach children how to responsibly handle tools? I mean sure you could say “hide under the bed and hope nobody rapes you” in a burglary while you’re possibly away, but sheesh, I’d like my kid to at least have a knife to defend themselves with (I think my first buck knife I was 2, maybe younger, my mom wasn’t happy when she found out my dad gave it to me, and yeah a two year old running around like any toddler is a terrible idea, but at 7-9 years old you probably know how to handle one at least from helping cook in the kitchen). So what age though, 12? I mean I think that’s old enough for say a .22, sure it’s enough to kill but as long as you’re teaching your kid how to use the tool properly I don’t see why not, I mean they can legally drive motorcycles and die on the road at age 14 in the US (as I commuted to school by motorcycle at age 14). Technically they can legally fly airplanes at any age as well (ultralights, thinking about getting a 60 HP biwing personally, I’m an aerospace engineer so I love planes). Why would they need to be 10+ years old to learn and be allowed to operate firearms? That would be silly, by then it would be too late and they probably wouldn’t have learned it young enough to take it seriously, engrain safety at a young age!
@@jakegarrett8109 Kids are our most precious resource.
They're minerals.
Little kid with 🐻 arms would look weird asf though?
@@jakegarrett8109 i'm guessing license laws vary by state, because in my state, you can't be licensed until you're 16 i think
I got an ad for a lock before this video... what a brave company
Calibus what lock was it ?
Buy it and send it to LPL or Bill
Its more of a choking hazard than a dang gun lock.
Lol
"This is the Lock Picking Lawyer and today we are going to break into the gold safe at Fort Knox."
*7 minuets pass*
"...a click on pin 8 and we got this open, you know the old say 'whoever has the gold makes the rules' so I guess that make me LockPickingPresident, in any case, thats all i have for you today, if you have any thoughts of rebellion, they will be crushed"
How long are these minuets
"Let's do this a few more times so you know it wasn't a fluke."
*Stop, it's already dead*
LPL must be pretty bored of all those stupid chicken locks
"I want the 5 count" - King Kong Bundy
"Well is it really that bad?" - 2 seconds later.... - "Yes."
Half second later is more like it.
i like how he says
"before I show you how bad it is..."
I just cut them off with a pair of tin snips.
When you hear “I’m gonna use one of these wafer jigglers”, you really don’t need to see more...
Need? no. Want? Yes
Limi V facts
How do I hire you as my attorney? I want to fire mine, the NosePickingLawyer.
the illusion of safety is the death of safety
The illusion of safety is what probably 99% safety has become about. Not just locks. Think about airport security. The illusion of safety.
@@ministerc9513 Yep. but you cant argue with numbers. That illusion sells guns all day.
Like protective clothing, people wear it and get careless because they think they are safe.
@@grahvis safety is a flavor of control. Control is an illusion.
Irrespective of caution, equipment, or qualification...
If ever you think yourself safe, you can be certain you're mistaken..
[the general you, not you specifically, though not not-you]
MinisterC Department of Security Theater....
Instead of "not for resale" it should say "not for gun safety"
You mean "for entertainment purposes only" e.g lock picking lawyers videos.
Not for resale is a fair warning that no one would buy them
Let alone a used one
Locks are not for gun safety. Education and responsibility are for gun safety.
@@jordanhicks5131
you obviously do not have children.
@@thomasneal9291 I was a child who grew up in a household with guns. They were never locked up away from me, I always had access to them, but I was raised to respect them and educated so they didnt have a mystique about them, so I never fooled with them like kids who weren't taught responsibility and respect.
The gun isnt the issue, it's the lazy parents who dont educate their kids correctly. Locks are not a substitute for education and respect
Waiting on the "24 hours of LPL opening and reopening the Childsafe lock" for any lock manufacturers having a hard time getting the point.
the bright yellow makes it extra safe.
A zip tie would be safer than this gun lock, and would have taken longer to remove.
A zip tie could probably open this lock.
This is a reusable metallic zip tie.
@@Oldsmobile69 I believe we've had fingerprint locks on this channel before
@@Oldsmobile69 Fingerprint locks (embedded in guns) have been busted before on another channel.
@@Oldsmobile69 your phone also doesn't have any mechanical output except sound and light.
Do some "best of" videos each year. "Best of gun locks in 2019", etc. I would be interested in "best for the money" and "best regardless of price".
I had a gun lock and my rake pick was the exact bitting of the key. I wouldn’t use them as when I was a kid I remember seeing in the moves people picking doors with bent paper clips and to be honest it would work on these locks.
Good to know LPL's aunt considers him a professional in locks
Many times the hardest people to convince are your own family.
Free lock
LPL: "You get what you pay for"
Project Childsafe: 🗿
The safest place for my handgun is on my hip. The second best place for the rest of my firearms, in my safe. Period.
To be fair, having seen what LPL and others can do to some of the products called a "gun safe" in America, not all things are safe in all safes. But yes, a decent safe with decent walls and a decent lock, and hinges that can't be drilled / lifted (or have a shape that dropping the hinge does not open the door) is a minimally useful way of storing things that go bang.
LPL could probably open your gun safe with a lollipop stick, a rubber band and a paperclip. All in 60 seconds.
@@DanceySteveYNWA OR. A lollipop stick, a rubber band or a paperclip, any of these.
I have no doubt that LPL could enter it with a turkey feather, stethoscope, and an opener to a pop can, but I'd still like to see it! Its a Liberty Presidential safe with electronic lock. Have at it!
If you stare hard enough at it, it will pop right open!
You didnt point out that the "shackle" can be cut with decent kitchen shears. had to do it myself once as i use one of these as a trailer lock and lost the key.
What kitchen sheers did you use? Because mine wouldn’t cut easy. I used these daisy chained (just like zip-ties for extra length) to secure my bicycle (one of my few bikes not stolen), they aren’t super heavy duty obviously but they don’t cut that easy. You’d need small bolt cutters at least.
Maybe they changed the quality or something on them, mine are like 10 years old.
@@jakegarrett8109 they were the kinda sheers you get in the knife set, the ones intended to cut through chicken bones and such.
man this channel hit 1m, its like yesterday I saw this underrated channel
You make a great point about false sense of security. It genuine troubled me considering the possibility of a gun owner with children using this and taking safety for granted. I love how your channel increases awareness about these types of issues!
Tried to leave a comment on one of the other videos you did about the Firearms lock... this one will do just as fine.... I was in the consumer industry for a while selling these types of locks to my customers, I had a little bit of a hard time describing to them why these locks were not very good for locking up "Firearms" and other devices of this nature to prevent theft; but many of the locks if not 90% of them are just junk, simply junk and I really thank you for getting into the mechanical aspect of these devices so that these people can actually see what I'm talking about ......thank you again!
I wonder what sorts of household items a child might use to open this lock. Care to offer up any examples in a new video?
Seeing how simple a jiggler it took to open this, even such things as a thin paring knife would easily do the trick.
Nice try, child who wants to open a gun lock.
Even an incorrect key that fits in the lock would do, probably.
my guess is a chewed drinking straw would work
The obvious one is a hairpin. You could probably cut something out of a fast food plastic knife or fork or grind down a toothbrush handle or chopstick. LPL could probably use a wet noodle.
I say this every time I see this type of lock; no lock beats education.
The only one that needs educating is the guy who brought the gun home. If you don't have a gun the kid can't use it right.
@@maanvis81 But you can't either.
@@maanvis81 Well...I suppose you're right. As a father who brought home firearms, I realized it was my duty to educate my kids on the proper safety and handling. There are no accidental shootings, only the negligence of individual handling the firearm.
But to each their own.
I just checked and in the Netherlands, where I live, you are 6.5 times less likely to get murdered. So I'm sorry for being a bit misunderstanding here about guns, now I understand better why you need them, the USA is a lot more dangerous.
Good on you. This is more important than securing business docs or a bicycle.
You should use some common household item to try and open it, if it's a lock which is really easy to open. That should give some concerned people a better perspective, like a tool from a nail cutting kit or something like that.
This man could escape prison by picking every lock with a bone from his food
Um... at least it looks like a lock !😂✌
it doesn't even look like a lock. It looks like soap on a rope
I would love to see a series of videos where the LPL picks several of these open using various items found around the house (hair pin, paper clips, etc, etc).
When I was a child, I tried to pick or shim a lot pf locks, but I had no access to purchased tools. I managed to open a desk, a metal cabinet, and my older sister's diary (I believe all wafer and warded locks), but it took lots of hours. All of these had to be non destructive entries, for obvious reasons.
I never did manage my front door lock, my parents bedroom lock, or any pad lock.
These locks were included with every pistol I've purchased. Donated them to Goodwill or trashed them. Used one as a paper weight.
Question: has there ever been a "fluke"
Nope. This is a fluke free zone. 🔓
@@TheSurviver72 Of course it's a FLUKE free zone - it's a lock picking channel, not an electronics channel.
Badum-tish
I'll let myself out.
Yes, flukes are a type of lure used in sport fishing. In lock picking? No. Flukes do not exist.
LPL packing some nice concealed carry - confirmed!
One of my favourite channels on CZcams!!! You Sir are a Legend!!! Please carry on with your good work!!!
EXCELLENT point on safety. Bravo sir
they can be picked with paperclips. ask me how i know.
did you or an adolescent in your house pick one with paperclips?
Holy fuck how did you know
got bored, did it. takes seconds.
Next he'll be reviewing magnetic tot locks for cabinet doors
Those locks are great for chaining a fan to your work area to prevent a coworker from stealing your fan
In Lithuania if you want to own a firearm you must own a safe to keep it when you are not carrying it. I know there are terrible safes too, but if you have at least a decent safe it solves a lot of this kind of problems.
As always people just patting each other on the back that they are doing something for the community, but no one checks what the effect is in practice. No one but yourself and your aunt I guess LOL.
Exactly. The purpose of this lock was to make the gun owners feel good. It's not at all about child safety.
@@markinnes4264 That's good enough to get you re-elected in California.
@@juicyfruit6311 And good enough for our third-world variant of a first-world nation. People are just too stubborn and "gubment will take ma guns!" to see any actual progress made.
Now I think of it.... those people accepted big companies screwing them over. Maybe if a major company did something radical and yelled "but jobs!" we'd see something happen.
@@markinnes4264 It's to make those scared of guns feel good.
Yup. Better hope you dont misplace your gun key when you NEED it.
Most likely, with the key it's harder to open :-)
You are probably right. Every one of these locks I've owned were hard to open with the. You had to wiggle it around a lot
Throws away my two gun locks and heads to the store.
You should try picking these locks with something a young kid could easily get their hands on, like a paper clip, screwdriver, etc.
My child does not access to a wafer jiggler. I understand that this is a low skill attack, but doesn't it also require a specialized tool?
When it's that bad, I'm pretty sure that anything you can get into the lock, can work as a jiggler.
If that jiggler can get it open a kid dropping a cheetoh in the hole at the right angle could open it.
Pretty sure that anything that resembles a key (or even another key) that can fit there can be used.
I have like 10 locks i can not pick yet - i bet the LockPickingLawyer would have them open in ten seconds or less.
Send one to him and bet him 5 bucks to get it open in under a minute! Hell I'll throw a couple bucks in to have him send it back to you when he's done.
@@CrashRacknShoot Great idea i think i will do just that and send him a few of them - I have one with no brand name on it which i just have no clue where to start it has a crazy key and very hard to get both the pick and tension in at the same time.
@@Max-pb8vf right on man. Sounds like a fun challenge
this guy destroys the lock then gives a proper and formal testimony against it
its amazing how companies take advantage of people when there's high demand on a product. people buy it because they want the result it promises, without ever checking into how well it delivers on that promise.
Utter crap. With the exception of the one you made, I have not seen a single gun lock that is worth the metal it's made of.
They make an ok bludgeon
@@JohnDoe-nf7up Hadn't thought of that! Actually, it would be funny to melt a bunch down and make a gun!
Probably would be easier to just buy a metal box and pay a locksmith to install a good lock to it (with some welding for the internal lock body holders
Well who even has those wafer jigglers anyways 😂 /s
The manufacturer behind this lock will not able to jiggle its way out of this safety flaw. Thanks for posting.
My dad traded in a Beretta 9mm for a bolt action Remington 22 rifle when my brother was little as he thought it would be safer. Gun stored in parent's closet loaded and no lock. The main security was the fact that if you went into the parents' bedroom unsupervised, let alone the closet, you were risking a beating.
I have the exact same lock and sig sour 226 😂 only difference is my cable is blk and I raked mine cause it’s a 4 pin
Mari Onette awesome firearms the sigs are super reliable have yet to have a misfire or a failure to eject EVER. That’s prob. Why the secret service used to carry them not too sure if they do anymore. What’s not reliable are those project childsafe gun locks! Not to sure how old LPL’s is but mine is from prob. 15 yrs ago if not older. Easy to rake weird to pick lol
No point in having a gun for safety if it has a lock
A false sense of safety can be a dangerous thing
I love how you choose the perfect words to say the truth whilst trying not to be insulting or impolite in any way.
Like here, where you are basically explaining that this lock is completely useless and we all know and see it, but you use just the right words to not "accuse" or attack anybody.
Keep up the good work!
The best way to keep a child safe when it comes to guns is called gun education.
Exactly
Better still, live in a country where you don't feel the need to own a gun on the first place..
No
Yeah, none of us ever did anything that shoulda killed us if our parents warned us about it first
The best way to keep a child safe when it comes to guns is do not have any guns at home.
Just hide the firing pin at a diffrent location then the gun, in addition to have a gun safe.
You might as well not even have a gun doing that.
John Doe it’s a joke
@@GiantJanus I've seen actual people that do shit like that so I figured it was just another idiot
Thats dumb. If its a bolt action I have removed those and kept them seperate from the rifles. Not great, but slows someone down or prevents them from having a functioning firearm in a smash and grab.
I have a handful of these things.
You can actually break all the armor lengths by hand by squeezing a kink in the cable and then that will let you slid the armor bits down enough to get a simple wire cutter into the cable center.
these videos need to exist to promote parents to buy better products or simply do not own a gun. very deliberate and informative as ever.
The first locks I ever picked was a silly bathroom door lock and I used a bobby pin. I was not old enough to read when I did that. The special tool you used to defeat this isn't really available to children, but this might be a good lock to use to demonstrate how various random objects that are available to children might be used. Things I tried, at that age, that did work with some success: Bobby pins, paper clips, LEGO swords, LEGO spears, wire twist tie from the bread loaf.
I actually was just noting these kinds of locks at my local gun shop (most of their handguns come with a similar factory one), and remarking on just how easily it would be for LPL to pop one of these open - then he uploads a vid doing just that! I must be learning something about lock quality from this channel. =D
I feel like gun locks are more along the lines of a LOTO (lock out tag out) lock. It's more there as a redundancy. Just as a good way of knowing that the weapon is clear and safe. Not to keep someone out more of keep someone from being a dumbass.
"NOT FOR RESALE"... Due to glaring vulnerabilities that would get us sued to hell and back if we actually charged money for it.
These companies need to be sued for negligence.
I keep saying it: Most of these "gun safes and locks" are made solely so people who live in states with safe storage requirements like Massachusetts can flash it to law enforcement and say "See? There's a lock on it like there's supposed to be" and send the officers on their way and out of their hair.
This is good to know seeing how my 5yr old asked for a set of wafer jigglers last Christmas.
I have always enjoyed your video's and this one is no exception. However, even though I understand your point, one must also consider there is a huge difference between a child and young teenager. Excample, access to a wafer jiggler and watching your video's in how to open locks. For myself with no experience, I now know how to open this type of lock. Case in point.
A paperclip that has been grooved by a squeeze in the middle section would be more than adequate to open this lock. If I can defeat it, my children are clever enough to get through it
This makes me think of the free safes a police department handed out to officers. Then when a child got shot the parents were blamed for not locking up the handgun. After hiring experts it was determined the locked safe could be unlocked by lifting it up and then dropping it from around six inches.
Thank you for proving that I need a new lock to protect against my child’s wafer lock picking system!
Notice he said adolescent - because instead of his tools a teen could use any number of things (nail file) for example which I used as a teen to get into drawers and cabinets I wasn't supposed to be in
I used to do that with an old letter opener. I'd love to see you use standard household items to open locks that are cheap like this.
This channel is an eye opener, I'd love to see some locks that took you a while to open, or that you think a child couldn't open.
I was tasked with the same lock. It was on a hasp , and if you put as little as 2.5 pound weight on the base, it's lock will no longer be in working order, rendering it out of commission.
Absolutely great video. 😎
That thing wouldn't even be able to lock a water gun.
That was a good and honest reflection about safety behaviors. As always, straight to the issue. Thumbs up.
I was watching this on mute and the moment he pulled out the wafer picks I knew it was all over for that lock
Please offer suggestions to a good cause like them on how to improve their hardware! You know and could be very beneficial to America's well-being if you work in concert with their cause! Fantastic video as usual!
@@marionette5968 Mmm nothing like anonymously calling people moron's while doing absolutely nothing productive otherwise! *facepalm*
@@marionette5968 Try again but instead of calling the entire concept of trigger locks/gun locks "dumb and for dumb people" offer a critique productive to the fact that the technology DOES exist and IS being iterated on constantly with the IDEAL of HAVING them be useful! What you offered may feel "smart" but is really a looot of hot air in relation to the discussion of improving said technology!
Really makes you wonder about how this went so wrong. As LPL said, the project aim is commendable, but how could they miss the mark so badly? Someone (probably even a group of someones) went to the trouble to create the program, publicize it, purchase and distribute the locks etc, but didn't do any basic research or testing of the quality of the product itself - effectively flushing all their other work down the toilet. How does this happen? Would love to learn the back story on this.
I dug one of these out of the closet when moving. Was hoping LPL would mention it one day, good thing I never got to use it
What would be available instead of the wafer jiggler for opening the lock? It would be interesting to see some of the locks defeated with things available around the house, not lock picks.
I bought one of the training kits from Covert Industries about a month ago, and have now defeated every lock in my house. I suck at raking, but SPP takes a handful of seconds in most cases. I take this to mean locks are terrible and not as an indicator of my superior skill. The gun lock that came with who even knows which pistol was the worst. It was actually harder to close it again and get my turning tool back out than it was to open the lock.
The illusion of security, such as security theatre harms security. Either it exceeds the requirements or its inadvertently making it worse.
So, lawyer, locksmith... Are these his guns, or is he borrowing them? This is building to be one of the most bad ass guys ever.
This feels like a PSA from LPL, thanks!
All locks are designed to keep the honest person honest. Shakespeare stated, "best safety lies in fear". So wherever it SEEMS most dangerous... is where you will the safest spot. ;) Great Video @ LockPickingLawyer
Nice Sig, by the way. The sheriff's office gives out the same lock and my 3 children were unable to remove it. I lost a key and messed around briefly then just cut it off. They certainly work against kids or adults who know nothing about locks.
I have one of those. I dont use it on a firearm but its useful in locking the latch on my trailer hitch when I'm towing.
We as the gun community should, as we do with handling protocols, come up with a set of protocols for gun secureing.
There are too many gizmos promising cheap peace of mind.
If we don't, the government will. And they wont do their homework.
@@marionette5968 ok but what of bumps in the night? How do i store my ready gun?
"My five year old can pick this lock" Deviant Ollam.
Now you have shown the kids how to open this lock. Thanx a lot pal.