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Horowitz plays Rachmaninoff Sonata No.2 (breaks string) - Carnegie 1968 RARE

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  • čas přidán 19. 08. 2024
  • November 24th, 1968: Carnegie Hall
    You can hear Horowitz break a piano string in the 2nd movement around 12:48. The staff replaces the piano as crowds applaud and afterwards he continues to play until the end.
    This is an extremely interesting rare pirate recording. I found the parts on CZcams, stitched them with Sony Vegas and re-uploaded the performance in its entirety, for your seamless listening pleasure.
    - disclaimer -
    This video is exclusively dedicated to divulgation purposes and not commercial. If someone, for any reason, considers that a video appearing in this channel violates copyrights, please inform me immediately before submitting a claim to CZcams, and I will take care of removing it accordingly. Thank you.

Komentáře • 102

  • @pvonberg
    @pvonberg Před 11 lety +83

    The "staff" was Franz Mohr, chief piano tuner at Steinway.I was there. Amazing to think it was 44 yeas ago !!!

  • @user-my7nm1dl7e
    @user-my7nm1dl7e Před 9 lety +84

    this is simply the deepest, most fascinating, phenomenal, transcendental, magical and unforgettable performance of this masterpiece ever recorded. a miracle.

    • @Francisco-tm2gk
      @Francisco-tm2gk Před 6 lety +3

      Listen to the London performance during the eighties, with Prince Charles in the public... here in youtube.

    • @michaeledwards1172
      @michaeledwards1172 Před 2 lety +1

      I know I'm sticking my neck out, considering the wildly extravagant praise of this performance in other comments... but what's so good about this performance? The tempo is all over the place, speeding up and slowing down all the time, and he seems to really like thumping out those loud passages (no wonder a string broke), and he often seems to use practically no pedal at all, which I don't think suits Rachmaninov at all - it gives a very dry effect which I don't find at all suitable for late romantic music. And, to be quite honest, I think he often plays passages far too fast - it sometimes sounds as if he's trying to get the music into as short a time as possible. Just because a pianist can play something extremely fast, it doesn't mean they should.
      He clearly has a phenomenal technique - I don't deny that - and he's good at voicing simultaneous lines within the music - very good in that, too. But all the other things just quite spoil it for me. I think there are other, more recent, recordings of Rachmaninov that I like far better than this, which seem more suited to Rachmaninov's broad, sweeping style of music.
      In finding so much wrong with this, I am ignoring the inexplicably (for the late 1960s) atrocious quality of the recording, which is obviously not a fault of the performance itself; I think I am only talking about actual features of the performance, not artifacts created by shortcomings in the recording.
      So if it's so good, what am I missing about this? I play the piano myself, and I am very familiar with many composers of this period, so I don't think it's just simple ignorance. I can only put it down to personal taste - some seem to like this style of playing, and others don't, and that's all there is to it. But if an admirer of this performance can explain to me why they like it so much, and how they can overlook the faults I mentioned above, I would be interested to read their views. Thanks.

    • @lubakeshyan1916
      @lubakeshyan1916 Před 2 lety

      @@michaeledwards1172 there are no forcing on sound, besides such dynamics you never hear in so polyphonic texture with minimum pedal is unique for Rachmaninoff! where can you hear so powerful bells and epic space between registers and voice sound!!Genius💗

    • @dustovshio
      @dustovshio Před rokem

      @@michaeledwards1172 theres not a rule that rachmaninoff should be played with a lot of pedal I think of a lot of his works like the 3rd concerto more baroque with all the counterpoint and such and the pedal can mush everything together and make it sound like cacophony

    • @needtoknowbasis3499
      @needtoknowbasis3499 Před rokem

      Please, the superlatives aren't required to laud this fascinating pianist.

  • @Fritz_Maisenbacher
    @Fritz_Maisenbacher Před 7 lety +42

    0:47 dear Lord ....

  • @ric55
    @ric55 Před 11 lety +38

    This is not piano playing-this is a miracle.

  • @johnspradling7906
    @johnspradling7906 Před 2 lety +11

    Thank you for your dedicated work to piece this performance together. I remember reading an account of the broken string. Horowitz's tuner, Franz Mohr, was always standing by at his recitals for any mishap at all, and today his watchfulness paid off. Horowitz stayed seated at the piano while Mohr pulled the tangled broken string--it was a wound bass string--out of the instrument. He didn't replace the string, thereby taking the chance that the weakened area might cause more trouble, but it did not. Please keep in mind that as volcanic as this performance sounds on the pirate recording, Horowitz in person was greatly more colorful, and his dynamic contrasts were even greater. He was an unleashed force, and we are thankful that he lavished attention on the Rachmaninoff Second Sonata, which was a greatly maligned piece until Horowitz gave his immortal stamp of approval to it.

    • @stefanhartmann-virnich9900
      @stefanhartmann-virnich9900 Před 29 dny

      Luckily it was the note C ,which in Steinway D grands has 3 strings, not 2, so there were still two strings left.

  • @anoumm
    @anoumm Před 8 lety +54

    I was actually there when this happened. I was young, but even then I knew this was a special and unusual moment.

    • @luismiguelgallego9393
      @luismiguelgallego9393 Před 7 lety +4

      You were very fortunate, Anou.

    • @workmusic3858
      @workmusic3858 Před 6 lety +23

      When he broke the string, they had to replace it with Anou-one. :D

    • @taramatteeanthony3070
      @taramatteeanthony3070 Před 4 lety

      I was there too; did'nt see you.

    • @anoumm
      @anoumm Před 4 lety

      @@taramatteeanthony3070 I didn't see you either. I think we were sitting on the left side of the orchestra level half way up from the stage.

    • @adrianopiano5551
      @adrianopiano5551 Před 3 lety +1

      Did he make you cry?

  • @loboris1995
    @loboris1995 Před 10 lety +25

    For me , this performance of the 2nd sonata is the most intense one . It's just down-breaking .

    • @NHO12209
      @NHO12209 Před 4 měsíci +2

      String-breaking ;)

  • @palmerplantagenet
    @palmerplantagenet Před 4 lety +9

    When I heard him play the Second Sonata's last few minutes for an encore in Pasadena in February of 1976, the performance wasn't as fast but the 'crushing' tone was more monumentally grand. It's power made the audience "go mad" in their most ecstatic fervency!

  • @cattleman6420012000
    @cattleman6420012000 Před 9 lety +22

    I really appreciate you letting us hear this marvellous Live concert by Horowitz. Incredible magic and musical flair as well as his incredible brilliance. Thank you so much.

  • @tonecrafter55
    @tonecrafter55 Před 11 lety +12

    The true poet with the strength of Hercules.
    His idiosyncracies are treasure beyond value.

  • @peKarim
    @peKarim Před 3 měsíci +3

    12:56 I refuse to believe that that sound came from a piano, sounds like a freaking cannon

  • @saiddavlatov4599
    @saiddavlatov4599 Před 11 dny

    Спасибо Огромное вам за запись, это мой самый любимый исполнитель

  • @gattihaniel
    @gattihaniel Před 10 lety +8

    My son had the opportunity to play on his piano! This is wonderful!

  • @user-zg8kx5ev4c
    @user-zg8kx5ev4c Před 4 lety +9

    Яркие муз.контрасты,полное владение инструментом,слышатся голоса ,будто у пианиста 8 рук,сложнейшая интонац.работа.Спасибо.

    • @rushana1956
      @rushana1956 Před 3 lety

      А еще струна лопнула)

  • @duartevader2709
    @duartevader2709 Před 3 měsíci

    One of the greatest recordings I have ever heard, Horowitz at his best

  • @antongeorgiev1089
    @antongeorgiev1089 Před 7 lety +6

    What can I say.. Loved him playing this with all my musical being when I first heard it 15 years ago, and it will always be a part of me. Next step - send this into space, and watch alien civilizations coming to look for more..

  • @UlasAktok
    @UlasAktok Před 11 lety +5

    Many thanks for the upload... So precious. So amazing.

  • @nihilistlemon1995
    @nihilistlemon1995 Před 6 lety +10

    This is the most transcendental , insane , electrifying piano playing ever recorded . And it is an objective fact . I dare people bringing other performance that are as insane as this .

    • @electrocompany
      @electrocompany Před 5 lety +3

      Boris lo apropos transcendental. Check out pogorelich liszt etudes, also from carnegie in 1990. Nr. 8 is phenomenal

    • @liloruf2838
      @liloruf2838 Před 5 lety +1

      Listen to Lucas Debargue. Just as genius as Horowitz.

    • @abritishguy8351
      @abritishguy8351 Před 4 lety +1

      @@liloruf2838 ha lol

    • @Pogouldangeliwitz
      @Pogouldangeliwitz Před 2 lety

      @@liloruf2838 That one made me giggle too

    • @imagod4796
      @imagod4796 Před rokem +1

      kocsis

  • @runkrunkus2315
    @runkrunkus2315 Před 11 lety +7

    You are lucky. I would give anything to have seen and heard Horowitz play. The last true Maestro. I really would have liked to have seen him play the Rach 3 !

  • @annjeanmillikan
    @annjeanmillikan Před 7 lety +3

    Wow! Phenomenal performance, powerful, exciting, majestic!

  • @stevengevirtz8992
    @stevengevirtz8992 Před 7 lety +3

    thank you very much for your efforts. I am glad to have heard this and will refer to it.

  • @Ferdinand314
    @Ferdinand314 Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you for this upload! Astounding.

  • @gabeb8
    @gabeb8 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank You for this recording!

  • @SuedRodrigues
    @SuedRodrigues Před 11 lety +5

    Wow I envy you... I would gave anything to see such a legend performing!

  • @sergiomartinezcastro6183
    @sergiomartinezcastro6183 Před 2 lety +4

    12:56 string break

  • @Facconti
    @Facconti Před 11 lety +3

    His piano is just so unique...

  • @ppppppppppppppppp999
    @ppppppppppppppppp999 Před 10 lety +3

    Great! Thanks!

  • @SpyrineMusic
    @SpyrineMusic Před 3 lety +6

    12:55 *_SNAP_*

  • @rolfingemovimentoporhelena5010

    Maravilhoso, obrigada! Helena

  • @yetanotherpianist4449
    @yetanotherpianist4449 Před 10 měsíci

    "As the crowd applaudes" well that was one quick string replacement.

  • @nassera
    @nassera Před 3 lety +2

    It's not a miracle, it's a great Horowitz.
    The string didn't break. It disintegrated. They have feelings too, you know?

  • @alfredcognoet
    @alfredcognoet Před 3 lety +5

    12:56

  • @KingBroleslaw
    @KingBroleslaw Před 3 lety +2

    really fucking good

  • @4SAKN
    @4SAKN Před 7 lety

    jure cannot believe you put this up hahahaha

  • @vladibaby79
    @vladibaby79 Před 8 lety +6

    An interesting think: there are several recordings of Horowitz playing this. As we know he was allowed by Rachmaninoff to perform the work in own Version. But somehow I have the Impression that the Horowitz-Version was in each concert a bit different. May it be, that he also imrovised upon his own Version?

    • @richardmeads7775
      @richardmeads7775 Před 8 lety +6

      +vladibaby79 I think that Horowitz played very freely and added notes to rebalance chords frequently. At any rate my ears tell me this. Raymond Lewenthal used to do this also and to a greater extent. This is O.K. by me. As Busoni taught-every performance is essentially a transcription.

    • @vladibaby79
      @vladibaby79 Před 8 lety +4

      richard meads I did not consider it to be a negative Point. I just was not sure, if this really was a correct Impression. In opposite: I find this Kind of freedom fascinating and for my taste, the way Horowitz Plays this Sonata is for me more interesting than any of the two original Versions. It is also quite interesting, how he got rachmaninoffs permission: he played the Sonata for him in his own way, and then he asked Rachmaninoff about his opinion. Rachmaninoff did not show any Emotion and he just told him "if you want, you can do so." Rachmaninoff already had experienced Horowitz having more success with his own 3rd Concerto than himself. And he now probably recognized that Horowitz played the 2nd Sonata like if it would be his own. Could it be, that rachmaninoff was not very amused of facing some Kind of superiority of Horowitz again?

    • @ric55
      @ric55 Před 8 lety +1

      +vladibaby79 It could well be that. I had an interesting chat with another person about the two-piano recital that Rachmaninov and Horowitz recorded with RCA studios-who then "Lost" it! Rachmaninov was a very great pianist. Horowitz was some form of Avatar who could do the impossible at the piano.

    • @leongatha6
      @leongatha6 Před 8 lety +3

      +vladibaby79 Horowitz, during the great series of interviews by David Dubal, said Rachmaninoff asked him to combine the 1st version and the 2nd version as he saw fit, so it did shift somewhat each rendition.

    • @ric55
      @ric55 Před 8 lety

      +Ophir Horovitz Thank you-I did not know this, or due to increasing age had forgotten it altogether !

  • @antongeorgiev1089
    @antongeorgiev1089 Před 4 lety +2

    Horowitz doesn't play the piano. He plays the horopiano. It contrasts to a regular piano like the regular piano contrasts to a xylophone.

  • @JureGorucan
    @JureGorucan  Před 11 lety +2

    Because he broke the string. Read the title.

  • @HelloEveryonez678
    @HelloEveryonez678 Před 5 měsíci

    12:56 you hear the snap

  • @user-go6so7ne4v
    @user-go6so7ne4v Před 3 lety +1

    この場にいた人が羨ましい…
    この録音は宝物やわ。遺してくれた人ありがとう( ´;゚;∀;゚;)
    アップしてくれた人もありがとう!

  • @ublade82
    @ublade82 Před 11 lety

    "AROUND"

  • @geleozenricheskayalog
    @geleozenricheskayalog Před 9 měsíci +1

    0:11 20:13

  • @AlejandroSanAntonio
    @AlejandroSanAntonio Před 11 lety +1

    Yeah, I read that. And I heard the string broken. Mmm...

  • @michaeledwards1172
    @michaeledwards1172 Před 2 lety +1

    How come the quality of the recording is so bad for 1968? It sounds like something done early in the 20th century. I was in my teens in 1968, and I definitely remember that records of the time sounded far, far better than this.

    • @JureGorucan
      @JureGorucan  Před 2 lety +2

      my uneducated theory is that it is a pirate live recording

  • @patrickytting
    @patrickytting Před 11 lety +4

    Surely it's at 12.58 not 12.48?

  • @astrasfo
    @astrasfo Před rokem

    I didn't hear nuttin.

  • @Latinosmassacre-
    @Latinosmassacre- Před rokem

    20:46 at age 55? ....

  • @kaleidoscopio5
    @kaleidoscopio5 Před 7 lety +3

    I don't like the sonata too much big THAT ENDING!!!!!! Is the universe falling down, amazing.

    • @senar1940
      @senar1940 Před 6 lety +3

      What are you trying to say for Pete's sake! Do you like it or not? Try to formulate a sentence correctly!! Jesus!

    • @seanfogarty5559
      @seanfogarty5559 Před 6 lety +6

      Pieter de Jong don't be a prick, English may not be his first language.

    • @kaleidoscopio5
      @kaleidoscopio5 Před 6 lety +8

      I said that I did not like the sonata but the ending was out of this world. I do like the sonata now and, yes, english is not my natural language.

  • @AlejandroSanAntonio
    @AlejandroSanAntonio Před 11 lety +1

    Don't understand something. Why did people clap?

    • @nassera
      @nassera Před 3 lety +2

      I guess they were pretty bored and just felt to start clapping, don't you think?

  • @jinwoobae7555
    @jinwoobae7555 Před 7 lety +2

    Wrong note=bravo

  • @TedATL1
    @TedATL1 Před 4 lety

    Photo is not from 1968.

    • @JureGorucan
      @JureGorucan  Před 4 lety +2

      True, but what does that have much to do with the fact the recording is?

    • @TedATL1
      @TedATL1 Před 4 lety

      Goruchannel
      Normally they would match. And why not?

    • @JureGorucan
      @JureGorucan  Před 4 lety +2

      @@TedATL1 i doubt the normality you speak about is as prevalent as you see it. Of course, that would indeed be neat. There's a few problems with that. Firstly, not all old photographs of famous people are of a decent quality, so it would be quite vain trying to remain consistent if quality needs to be sacrificed. Secondly, lots of rare recordings like this one were likely recorded illegaly at events where photography would likely not be allowed so there goes your extreme consistency. Even if you meant it would suffice to have a photo from that year but not from the exact event, the above points undermine your assumption and for seemingly out of time geniuses and characters likes of Horowitz, any good photograph would help encapsulate his eternal enigma which streams from his performances.

  • @user-vm2on3ws3v
    @user-vm2on3ws3v Před 2 měsíci

    15:47