OFFICIAL SONY a6600 / a6100 PREVIEW | Is APS-C Even Needed ANYMORE?
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You could say their autofocus is Fast AF 😏
Or as fast AF AF
Max Rovensky hahaha fast AF ☺️☺️
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my favorite preview so far, and I watched about 10. nice job dude. you didn't whine that it doesn't have 4k60. thumbs up.
Hey buddy, thanks for having this video, especially for a beginner like me. Do you have any suggestions for picking which camera? Canon M6 mark ii or Sony a6600 and which len I should buy? Thank you!
Totally agree with you! Does hardly feel like any major development.
Great review... again, thanks Jared!
APSC is of course needed. It's the perfect size for hybrid photographers/videographers.
Nature photographers like me as well. On my APS-C camera I get the same reach with my 100-400 as a huge and heavy 150-600 in front of a 35mm sensor.
Naw full frame (no crop\full sensor) recording is better
I'd still pick ff over apsc but it all depends on your needs.
“Is APS-C needed” = click bait
@@dexterjsullen No Medium format is so much better
I am a big fan of you ! Your jokes are awesome.
Thanks for the video Brother 👍
It's possible to use ef-s glass on this 2 camera? I mean ok we can adapt the glass but what's about the af?
Plus this camera are good in af in very dark ambient like a club or a disco?
great vid...thanks....really informative
When Sony release brand new camera I come straight to youtube looking for review from jared
Does it overheat like the other Sony cameras?
Hallo, as mostly great video. The 6600 is really a great camera and I use it together with my super A9.If I expect to crop on my A9 (going from 24 to 10MP) I change to the 6600 with 24MP ( the A7IV has cropped 26MP). I keep the lens and change cameras. Can I patent that?
Hi Jared, will you do one of your fantastic on reviews sony a6600 vs Nikon z6
How do I install the s-log 2 profile on the Sony 6100? since they do not come from the factory in this version.
Great Video Bro!!!
Really wanting for Review & RAW files , Please Do that !!!
,👍😎
That a6600 looks tempting but I think I'm still going to wait for the A7S3 as the upgrade from my a6500...even if that means waiting until next year.
been saving up to get an a7iii, thought abt it again when they announced the a6600 last night. but i think ill stick to the a7iii for now, and eventually get the a6600 by the end of the year. hope that'll be a good decision for now!
I am assuming both get rid of the 30 minute recording time limit? And do both have time lapse built in?
I own the a6500 camera for about 2 years and I'm happy with it, so no upgrade in my mind yet. I'm really considering in buying the 70-350 mm glass but I'm not sure if it worth its money, maybe I'll rent one for testing and then decide. It's too bad that for e-mount there are no alternatives lenses for this range of mm.
What video editing software do you use with your Sony cameras when taking 4k video? ...Adobe, Final Cut, Sony Vegas ...etc.
love the show man..Errryday is Bay Area slang and has been how you say it for like 20 years already.. Yay errrea.
Hi Jared,
I watch your video regularly, they are super helpful. Now I want to know 2 things
, No.1Is it possible to use Sony 6400’s lens on Sony a7iii? What will be the result if I use crop sensor lenses on full frame?
No.2 I am more into video, so is it better to invest in SONY a6600 than SONY 6400?
Well APS-C does have a lot of advantages
- Easier to do landscapes: Ultra-Wide Angle Lenses for APS-C are, in general, easier to build and you need to step down less to get everything sharp. 10mm f/5.6 is most of the time totally fine and with 10mm f/8, everything is perfectly sharp. No need for f/11 even further (which hurts the image quality)
- More Tele with Tele: An 300mm f/2.8 turns into an 450mm with f/2.8 brightness but f/4 DOF. So you can shoot at f/2.8 without risking that only a small plane is sharp but you still have enough nice creamy bokeh, even with APS-C often more than you need
- Bright lenses are actually usable. If you have an 105mm f/1.4, you can actually use it at f/1.4 and there are still things that are in focus. No need to constantly step down to at least f/2 to get at least some DOF
I shot with full frame for quite some time (Tested the D800E for a short time, shot the 5D Mark III and then the a99 for several months) and it does have quite some disadvantages
Lenses are way heavier too and often less bright (something like the 18-35mm f/1.8 just can't exist in the FF, just look at how big the 24-35mm f/2 already is. Imagine that in 24-50mm and f/1.8 :D it would be way to heavy/big, i think we dont even have to mention the 50-100mm f/1.8, that would be unthinkable in Full-Frame).
So APS-C for sure does have advantages, as it does have disadvantages. It always depends on what you need/want but i'd personally say, for most photographers APS-C is the better choice.
Full-Frame turns more and more into an status symbol than being actually needed by the photographer. Lots of photographers even have more disadvantages than advantages out of the FF but use it anayway because its pro and as a pro you need to use pro bro
@@Da_Man_1221 Well there the thing. APS-C does have disadvantages and they are even bigger with 4/3. I thought about getting an 4/3 camera and tested some of them, but decided against it.
After testing with several sensor sices (even APS-H) i came to the conclusion that, at least right now, APS-C seems to be, for me, the best of all worlds. Not to big, not to small. For me it is just right.
Others, of course, have other preferences.
Very good Analysis
Very well written and fair breakdown!
point 3: isn't that because f1.4 on apsc is actually the f2 equivalent on full frame? you gotta consider the crop factor on the aperture as well, not just the focal length.
Picked up a a6100 w/ kit lens open box basically brand new for only $560 bucks. But was wondering if keeping it and getting better glass or get the a7ii or even a7rii and maybe 1 decent glass
I have learned a ton from your fro. Thanks
I’m looking for the best mirrorless or DSLR for around $1200 or less (body only) to record my nieces. One is a gymnast and the other does local community theater. I will be purchasing a 70-200mm f2.8 lens for whatever body I choose as well. I’m looking for eye autofocus that functions in 4k. Some have suggested Sony a6600 (I’m a little concerned about the rolling shutter) others have suggested Canon M6 Mark ii (some have said eye autofocus doesn’t work in 4k) Any help from any other viewers would also be appreciated.
Nice review 👍
You are a nice guy and cool, you run this channel matter-of-factly 👍. I'm writing from Poland. Greetings ✋
I use an a6500, mostly for video, and the 6600 is an upgrade (mostly the new AF system and the Z battery), but for that price I doubt that i'll replace the 6500, and was hoping for more upgrades, like 4K 60fps and 2 card slots so I could upgrade (and even for a higher price)
the lens prices are outrageous!
So im in the merket now and I'll probably be getting the 6100. It's between that at the 6400 the reason I chose this is to make sure I have a small camera I can use to get spontanious and covert shots. I know I'll be sacrificing the larger frame but it's something worth mentioning when you talk about the full frame. Especially if you're on a tighter budget. Good advice in the Tamron or Sigma lenses though.
Hi Jared Polin, mind asking if the Sony a6600 has a tilting screen the same as A6400?
Yep sure does
Very good review.
Low budget camera plz tell me for photography in mirrorless,,,??
Hi... What camera and lens you shoot this video with...!? Thanks
I can’t find this bit of info: Does the a6100 have an artificial horizon or level guide? The a6000 did not.
With fuji medium format, Is full frame Even Needed ANYMORE?
LOL Good luck with that move. There's a reason MF is a niche market and it's not just price, although that probably has a lot to do with it.
@@MrPhilbautista Exact same could be said for FF, professionals use FF but the majority of camera sales are consumer grade aps-c.
@@nobutoneme1325 , right on, but there has always been a market for higher-grade APS-C cameras as well. Look at the Fuji X-T3 and the Nikon D500. Had Fuji ever put a good IBIS on its APS-C cameras, I'd have bought one the next day.
@@stuartschaffner9744 I have an X-H1 myself
NoButOneMe When it comes to the video industry almost every movie is shot in S35, except the newer ones but even those are rare. S35 is still gonna be here for a while and I really like it. Full frame is amazing too but it comes at a price.
Yes some of us like and need ASP-C sensor camera for the extra reach it allows us. Those of us that do work in zoos/wildlife etc, I have no plans to replace my Nikon D500 with a FF camera waiting to see what ASP-C "PRO" stuf Nikon releases
Waiting on a test of the ibis to decide. I either want 6600 or 6400.
Thanks for the reviews Jared! QUESTION: Mark Galer said that there's no 29-min record limit on the 6600 but other sources say that there is! Please provide a definitive answer. Thanks in advance.
I would be suprised if the a6600 would have one when the a6400 has no limit
will there be a next generation of nikon d610?
I have both the A6500 and the A6400; plus the A7iii. The A6600 doesn't put enough on the table for me to convert from the A6500 to the A6600. The best attribute of this camera is the longer battery life but the Meike battery grip equals the A6600 battery life and gives me a vertical shutter button.
IBIS??? I will shoot with Sony OSS lenses...
What would have been the parameters which would have convinced me to upgrade the A6500 to the A6600"
1. Flash sync speed of at least 1/250 second
2. Better and larger EVF
3. Side access for the SD card
Dual SD cards and higher resolution might be nice but not a priority for me...
Instead of the A6600 and the new APSC lens, I purchased an open box A7iii and a Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 lens (for actually less cost). I love the EVF of the A7iii and I love many parameters of that camera, including inserting the SD card at the side rather than from below,. I will now shoot with the A7iii and Tamron lens paired in tandem with the A6400 wearing either the 12mm f/2.0 Rokinon or the 70-200mm f/4 G OSS...
IMO: I think that the A6400 is a better buy than the A6100... The A6400, for an extra hundred and fifty bucks, seems to give you a lot more...
BTW: I would LOVE a Sony compatible flash that is the equal of the tiny Canon 270EX-ii which I have carried all over China and parts of Europe. The 270EX-ii is a small low profile flash that has HSS. I own two Godox TT350S flashes which is the smallest Sony compatible flash with HSS capability (that I am presently aware of). However, the TT350S sits quite a bit higher (4-inches vs 2.5 inches), than the 270EX-ii which could be a problem, combined with the rather flimsy plastic hotshoe of the TT350S when I carry the camera and flash on a Black Rapid Strap. However, I have carried the lower profile 270EX-ii with its metal hotshoe mount all over on my Canon DSLR cameras with no problems...
Do you know of any low profile flash with HSS capabilities?
What I really need is advice on how to choose between a6400 and a6600.
I’m debating on getting the a6400, for my needs it’s def a bigger upgrade after using my a6300 for so many years. I don’t want to spend 1400 dollars on a camera that I could spend a couple hundred more to get a full frame.
Not all people want to move full frame Jared
@@jankarlsson5358 What even is that sentence?
@@jankarlsson5358 dude your writing sucks.
Nor can all people afford full-frame either. APS-C is still very relevant and popular, especially considering APS-C cameras are usually smaller than full-frame.
@@TheIshikawaRin
I've seen specials on the a7III for the same price as the a6600... The smaller size of APS-C can be an advantage.
I always thought the main advantage to APS-C sensors was the price of glass. You can get some pretty nice lenses for $300-400. I am going to upgrade my a6000 but no way I am going to spend $1400 on a lens. If I am going to spend that kind of money I will just buy a full frame lens for the future.
1 Mio already, Jared? Congrats!
I find the old sensor withe the old IBIS along with the lack of front dial, UHI and no joystick disappointing for $1400.
Sorry total noob question but how is the a6100 better than the m50 for video. I'm new to photography and it just seems the m50 with it's flip out screen and mic jack would be better. Someone please explain what I'm missing here. Thank you in advance.
I'll rather buy a 70-200 f2.8 and use it with an adapter rather than buying their telephoto lens.
It really comes down to lenses. Camera body come and goes very fast. Full frame lenses for the most part are larger, heavier and cost more in comparison to crop body lenses. I would imagine that there are more casual photographers vs pros. Lighter, cheaper camera lens and body are probably gona be more favorable to us casual folks...
And Fujifilm is still all-for-APS-C (with medium format at higher models)
Very Interesting!THANKS
What lens would work for first timer?
What’s the deal about 14bit or 16bit specs
The A6100 is missing the S-Log profiles. Does it actually cost more money to include that? Like how V-Log was a paid add on for some Lumix cameras.
So is there a major difference to the 6500?
If I sold my nikon d810 and sony rx100 what should I get? I use the Nikon for landscapes & the sony rx goes with me on my motorcycle. I only have 1 lens for the Nikon and well the sony is a point and shoot a good point and shoot lol! I just want 1 camera to do it all! Not sure I want to go down to crop sensor tho. hurmm...
I wonder if the tariffs are playing a role in the pricing because it is way too high and the gh5 still seems like a stronger camera for the same range. Also, did anyone tell Sony about APS-H? In order to compete with the gh5, that would be a better sensor.
for the a6600 and 16-55 2.8 price you get a7iii and tamron 28-75 2.8 (which in fact is one stop faster). No point in getting APS-C gear then, would be my guess.
kinda bummed about the price of the 16-55 2.8. I guess ill but the Tamron 17-28 for cheaper price tag and opportunity to go Full frame later
Hey Jerat, too expensive FOR US (AUSSIS)
Our exchange rate, not doing well,
Going for A7 3, I m sure price will come down, soon
What’s best for video ?
Is it bad that I like having a flash!?!? I like the smaller body of the a6300/6400/6500. Having an extra batter is no big deal, takes 10 seconds to switch! IBIS is cool though but like in the video if I am going to spend the $$$ then I’d go full frame. Love the videos, new to photography and learn a lot from this channel. Thanks Jared!!
I guess for Sony, it makes sense to be present in the APS-C market, where they can share some of the components and software from their high end products. But their focus is the VF market, where the profit margin is much higher. Medium to long term, APS-C and smaller formats will be insignificant formats for interchangeable lens cameras . We will be back to 24x36mm as in the analog days.
Polin what do you mean the a6100 does not offer eye af?
Hi, is that same Sony A6000Y &Sony A6000 ???
still waiting for the a7000
LOL
I'm looking to get my first real camera and the full frame vs. APS-C debate is very tricky to navigate. As someone who likely won't migrate from one sensor to another ever given I'm a hobbyist, I will likely live with whatever glass I start buying for a very very long time. The a6100 seems like a great body that represents a ton of value, but I feel like we're on the precipice of major improvements to the mirrorless world as processing power is taken advantage of. Idk, it's a tough place to sit when I just want to start taking better stills.
Just get a6100 or xt30. FF is kinda expensive if you want to adapt native/third party af lenses. A6100 because better go cheapest as the obsolete sony body clearly needs update (they're still using micro usb in 2019!!). XT30 if you want clear company attitude on apsc and you are willing to spend fortune to get those 1.4 and 1.2 lenses at later stages
When I look at the sharpness results of Dxomark for apsc I can't see the point of having more than 24Mp on an APSC sensor. no lenses will be able to produce images that are sharp enough.
Jonathan Bondu exactly and even if there are lens, there gonna be wayy too expensive. Sony is just money hungry. They could’ve all these specs on the a6400 but instead they decide too make two more cameras lmao
DXOmark results is not the only point for an improved sensor... what about a sensor performing less rolling shutter???
i like the stabilization and fast af.
I’m a Nikon guy. But I might go for the a6100 as my neck-slung camera for test shoots before using my heavy gears. Hopefully, it’s color science gained some improvement.
Can it take 960fps slowmotion video?
Which one? a6400 v a6100 - currently around the same price new?
I honestly have to say that I love my Sony a6300 it is a couple years old and lacks some features but I don't see the need to upgrade to another Sony APS-C Camera. I think for the most people who have an older Sony APS-C camera its just not worth to get these. I will wait maybe after the A7sIII they come out with a 6k a6800 or something maybe with better Battery life and a flip screen?
Hopefully at some point APS-C will be recognized not as a budget option but as a size alternative to full frame. ASP-C cameras are just better than full frame cameras at some things, particularly street photography where having a smaller camera and smaller lenses can make you stand out less than FF mirrorless cameras that are similar in size to old DSLRs. The quality you get from APS-C cameras is hardly lacking either, sure you may not get the same sort of raw detail as you do with a full frame, but if that somehow makes the difference between a good and bad shot that’s likely more on you than the camera.
Probably never going to go full frame but I would get the Sony FE 70-200 f4 before I would get the E 70-350 f4.5-6.3
I've seen specials on the a7III for the same price as the a6600.
Carter should I get an A7iii or wait for the A6600?
@@victoe5780 I'd wait until more reviews come out on CZcams and watch them all... then give it a bit of time to see if problems develop with the a6600.
Theres no reason to buy a 6400 if it's the same price as an a7iii unless size is a big issue to you. Full frame dominates apsc in every way in terms of quality.
Cheese on Everything Thank you. I’ve decided on the A7iii
@@CheeseOnEverything A6400 has Real Time AF, which has noticeably performance better, and is even easier to use in the process. A7 III does not.
I just got myself the RX100 MK7 so as my main Camera later I will look into buying the A7R IV or the A9.
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Which would be better? The A6100 or A6400?
so i want also on the a7iii the real time tracking...
So, is it better to have a Full Framed or an APS-C? They have their advantages right?
It all depends on what you use your camera for. If you do low light or portrait photography, I'd say full frame is the way to go. But if you do nature photography where you need reach, APS-C has its advantages.
The main difference I'd say is in size and weight of lenses and camera bodies. But the thing is, full frame has a leg up on APS-C because you can always get teleconverters to achieve more reach from a full frame lense, but you cant get more light into a smaller sensor given the lens is the same aperture.
@@CheeseOnEverything Thanks for replying.
So, a Full Framed camera is better for night photography? What about filming?
I think I should just go for Canon SL3
Anything about 120 fps?
The a7ii with a kit lens is going for around 1k, would I be better off getting that over the A6600? 1.5k is most I can spend. This would be my first Camera.
Get something you like. Touch and feel them
The A6100 offers a lot of bang for your buck, and I'm going to start recommending it. The A6600 enters A7iii territory so I'll rather recommend the A7iii.
In my opinion there’s nothing wrong with crop sensor cameras sometimes the extra reach is needed
You're not getting "extra reach". You're getting a cropped version that appears to be extra reach
craig hawkins you can crop s full frame in software. You can’t fill frame a crop in software.
actually, crop sensor is a bad term. super35 / (same as aps-c) is older then what we call full frame. Leica turned the film from movie cameras on its side to make a larger frame. In the movie world full-frame is called Academy format but that is for prints that include the optical soundtrack.
@@shawnmiller2786 depends on the MP. I got a 24MP FF camera and a 24MP Aps-c. So i get a higher resolution when i use the aps-c instead of cropping in on my FF image
I've waited until new SONY mirror-less camera to be released rather than buying a6400.
The reason to get a camera is taking pictures and videos of my cute little daughter.
When released, the price considering upgraded points doesn't make sense for me.(Too expensive than I expected $1200)
But I would gladly pay more money if real time Eye AF for movies, Z battery and 5-axis in body are worth.
Could anyone advise which choice between a6400 and a6600 is best option for me?
Really comes down to IBIS. That will help a lot in handheld videos. The other option is to buy a gimbal, where a good one will come in a bit cheaper (A6400 + gimbal) vs an A6600. But in use, it's a LOT bigger. And then again, the stabilization it will provide with some practice can't be matched by any camera. So if you need some stabilization, the A6600 is what you want. If you need a lot of stabilization, grab the A6400 and any decent gimbal. If you don't need stabilization, get the A6400. Both cameras have Real Time AF and Eye AF, and batteries are easily replaceable, so there's no significant different between the cameras there.
After 00:44, I never heard one other word that was said for the rest of the video!
Sigma 18-35 and MC-11 is everything you need for almost any purposes on Sony APS-C.
No new episode for Photo News Fix this week? 🤔
If the 70-350 lens has good image quality I will snap it up. There are no high quality long zooms for Sony aps-c and when weight is not a factor I will bring my full frame kit.
So....the 6600 is a 6400 with a larger battery and a stabilizzation system?
Simone Casadei yep
nope it's baby a7iii
Dhanny Prasetya no, its a a6400 with a flip up screen and ibs
@@stumpsteph2153 the 6400 ha already that screen
Simone Casadei if the Ibis isn't very good and you use a gimbal a6400 is a better deal
I bought an a6400 a few months ago, I’m thinking I should have waited to get the a6600 LOL
I don't own a Sony camera, so I am not biased here. Panasonic and Sigma user. I must admit I am a bit disappointed that it is yet another Sony using the same 24mp sensor. I was expecting a 30mp+ sensor. 24mp is fine but how long are they going to keep reusing this sensor? Not OK on a £1500 body only camera. For slightly more I can get a A7/3 now.
Maybe tariffs are adding to the cost
I would like to know how these cameras do against the likes of Fujifilm X-T3 & X-T30
Which one would you recommend? Canon M50 or Sony a6100?
A6100 ofcourse
Thank you for this video.
My comments: I am dissappointed with this iteration, for the cost and options this is not a compelling upgrade.
I own the a6500, the capability index is great because of the apps, but this one won't run apps. I am not happy that all they did really was better battery, and flip screen. That's expensive for such similar base functions. The lenses are fine with the older options ... So why Sony, it's because they need to move on to new tech.
Yes Jared an APS-C is is always needed. Just not this one. Its just the A6500 with a software update and an underwelming flippy screen.
Hardware upgrade . But yes I wish there was something new :c
Eye-AF in movie-mode... larger pro battery... larger grip... headphone jack...
@@rob25222 Nah... Besides the headphone jack which is kind of almost not needed because we have already gotten used to adusting the sound to not clip based on the on-screen meter. This feature came too late. It should come with the a6300 because that camera till this day offers fantastic video features minus it's quirks. They have not done much woth hardware. The overheating can be fixed with an update to the software and so can the 30min limit.
@@Da_Man_1221 I feel your pain.
@@StreetsOfVancouverChannel I do not understand the need for eye AF fpr creating cinematic content because at that level auto focus is not needed or is otherwise abandoned for follow focusing to nail your prefered zones. It's a great feature but EYE af is software, which could have easily been an update. HLG video codec would have been great.
I just wanna say,all the prices will be a lot lower in the future when the e-infinity online store starts sells them
APS-C is not bad nowadays. My Fuji system is very nice. because of its smaller size it makes me to shoot much more then with my Nikon D800.
I've been waiting for a Sony C chip with IBIS with the new color tech. that I have in my A7 to replace my a600. And for me, it's about the weight of the camera and the lenses. I love my A7 and the big glass but I don't like schlepping around with it on long walks etc. Sometimes I want a lighter set up. I'm definitely a hobbyist with no desire to be a pro. Just want to take good photos.