Response to "High-Fat Diets Still Don't Boost Endurance"
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
- The article "High-Fat Diets Still Don't Boost Endurance" written by Alex Hutchinson in Outside Magazine discusses how low carb high fat diets still doesn't work has been sent to me several times over the past week with many beginner triathletes still confused about whether they should be keto, lchf, or use carbohydrates in their triathlon training.
In this video Taren discusses the opposing viewpoint to this article explaining how several studies have proven that Ironman athletes perform better with a high fat oxidation rate, how Dr. Dan Plews has shown a very low carbohydrate (keto) approach actually improves power, and how the current studies has a number of errors in their discussion.
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Carb timing or the TKD (Targeted Ketogenic Diet) is really the secret. Treating carbs as targeted sports nutrition (energy), rather than someone everyone needs to be eating all the time, would reverse the obesity epidemic. But, carbs are cheap and easily available, subsidized/pushed by governments, genetically modified, and have long shelf lives. Sliced bread has been around less than 100 years...take all the nutrition out then re-fortify it, hire scientists make it as addictive as possible to keep'em coming back. Mega corps. push that processed, bleached nutritionally vacant shit that does't even resemble food.
Keto def. is the best fast loss/burning diet ever created, but not the best diet for athletic performance. It all comes down to intent and purpose.
I don’t understand how you can claim you are having “success” with lchf if by your own admission you are overtrained and having your body and performance regress substancialy in the last year on that diet.
al howie died at 70 in 2016 and was a renowned ultra-marathoner who developed a reputation for a mostly beer diet. not many fats there, always thin as a rail, died from complications due to diabetes. watched a similar video with jeremy powers of gcn which at least did not make extraordinary claims.
Going into a status of over training has multiple factors to consider. Although diet is a component of this it probably isn't the sole factor that Taren's performance suffered. It could be because his training volume was too high for too long without enough recovery. It's possible that he didn't build in enough unloading weeks to accommodate the intensity that he was training at. Taren could have been purposely toeing the line of overreaching and over training to maximize his training (which is extremely difficult to do). Taren may not even know exactly why his performance took a decline. Performing at a high level requires to take some risks and it doesn't always have a positive outcome. Nutrition definitely plays at role but I don't think it was the root cause that his performance suffered.
@@coachdave4377 theres nothing wrong with his recovery.
He uses a grounding mat....
Nah the overtraining is from 2017 remember 😅
Plews training is too much even for himself.
Really bad coaching.
Watching this as I eat my pre-workout oatmeal and waiting for the trolls to start commenting 👀
LCHF has been a game changer for me ever since we talked about it on the Zoom trainiac meet up. I’m honestly not sure how my fat oxidation compares, but I feel so much better, dropped #25 and starting to get faster on the bike and the run and have had zero blood sugar issues. Thank you for defending this. I think a lot of coaches and athletes think carbs make the world turn, which for some it may. But it’s great to hear that there are other ways to be nutritionally successful. Thanks for all you do Taren!
yeah i have nothing but anecdotal evidence but personally it's crazy how much better i started performing after going LCHF. it just took a REALLY long time to adapt, like 6+ months
Went on a 50k tempo ride yesterday after a 24hr fast (been keto for a while), followed by a 20min brick run. PR'ed. Felt great, no bonk. Didn't even feel hungry after; ate because I knew I should. Not saying it will work for everyone as everyone's body is different, but fat adaptation has been great for my training.
I feel it works for most people who have been doing a form of low carb/IF way before they start trining, or at least give the process its time. I feel most people who hate fast training, are the ones that 1)are fit AF, and 2) they only try keto and/or IF for a week or so and pretend that they will revert whatever amount of years they've been training with a high carb diet.
Been keto but more low carb recently and have done fasted morning rides upto 3hrs for a while but yesterday I did 125 miles, 6:45! Only water, salt and an Espresso! I did actually bonk around the 6hr mark but it was a fairly gentle bonk. Felt pretty good and I even set off pretty fast hitting tempo/sweet spot on the climbs right upto that 6 hr mark where I backed it off to mid Z2.
Toss some magnesium and potassium in w that salt and see what happens... and creatine... none bteak the fast but fuel the run i feel
Sweet Spot, love the pun!! This has been my approach.
Keto is fine in the off-season. Up the carbs depending on the activity.
Stay metabolically flexible.
I hardly ate anything but electrolytes on a 140 km ride on a really hot sunny day. I felt great at the end.
Excellent vid Taren!!
Did you read Burke’s study? She actually addressed your issue with the on boarding process. She also had three groups in the study: keto, LCHF, and HC
It was very well done but also was very myopic in that it missed the big picture IMO. That is why linking to a study which supports your viewpoint without look at others is a bit dishonest.
Interestingly, still there is very little research on low-carb diets that are also high-protein. In ketosis, one of the main sources of glucose is from protein, although the body can also produce glucose from fat and lactic acid. The problem for athletes with a medical keto diet is that it also restricts protein out of concern that the excess glucose produced might knock one out of ketosis. But a serious athlete can consume quite a lot of protein or even carbs and still remain in ketosis because they are burning glucose so quickly.
Kipchoge is HCLF. End of discussion bruh.
My view as well. See what the best in the world are doing. Studies are meaningless if they do not align.
David Peters exactly. The top 10 athletes (if not top 25) of ANY SPORT are NOT high fat / Keto/ high protein.
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The general science is that LCHF makes you thin and fat and you will burn a relatively large amount of lean mass. Additionally, this is very bad for your heart and increases your chances of heart disease and diabetes (the latter because of the fat).
Sean Chin Eliud runs 2hr marathons, totally different rules than a 8-14hr triathlon
Midwits love anecdotes.
Your calorie numbers don’t make sense. You are assuming that non fat adapted athletes get 0 calories from fat which is simply not true
It sorta depends though. The typical athlete will get significantly less (0.4-0.5g/hour). Furthermore, if they land up on the worse end of the stick of working too hard it can really shut down their fat burning as well. So you land up leaning so hard on carbs that a blowup happens. Pro tri-athletes tend to a high adaption because they always in a state of low glycogen (even if eating lots of carbs) except near race time. Once you have that adaption in a good palce...well, then is sorta depends what your body likes in order to create further adaptions.
The real discussion isn't carbs vs fat...it is figuring out how to burn fuel from the semi truck fuel of energy you are carrying around vs pulling over all the time to refill your gas tank.
I enjoyed 150g carbohydrates just while watching this video.
lord
In most people 3.5 weeks isn't long enough to become fully fat adapted. At least that what I've read in some studies on the matter.
I commented before I got to the part where he states what I said.
There is a difference that makes a difference. On a high-carb diet, one is not fat-adapted and so has little access to burning fat. And, so, one is reliant on an endless supply of glucose. But n a keto diet, one is dual-fueled with an ability to use both glucose and ketones, even simultaneously. During endurance or high-intensity exercise, someone already in ketosis and fat-adapted can also use glucose at the same time.
A metabolically fit athlete can consume a surprising amount of carbs during exercise while remaining in ketosis. Also, keep in mind that the body can produce it's own glucose from fat, protein, and lactic acid. This is all the more reason a keto athlete should eat plenty of fatty animal foods prior to any major training or competition.
I like you Taren but you’re always focussing on the quick fix thinking you’re using science based marginal gains. Dan Plews may be a guru but he will be the first to say he doesn’t have answers to go with his PhD. I have an MSc in Sport Science and I certainly don’t. We’re all different of course but there is nothing really new out there if you want stay natural (research mainly confirms what successful coaches know works already). Some people will do well on low carbs most people won’t whether for racing, big works or recovery. Get more sleep, follow a progressive training plan, eat well and go at it with legal technology to how ever high your budget will let you.
I spent this past year converting to low carb. Did full on keto for about 4 months then low carb healthy fat at through spring and summer. My IM was canceled so I did it virtually this past Saturday. Took in less than 60 grams of carbs per hour. Never bonked No gi issues of any kind and felt good the entire way. I’m a 56 year old male endurance athlete my entire life and this system worked great for me. I haven’t felt this good in years The virtual IM went great and felt great. It works!
I am 54 and 20 months ago, I was working out like a fiend. Power, strength, endurance all worsening. Started looking at diet and even considered mostly plant based and after a few weeks of research, I went full keto instead. power worsened, no real energy. Started adding electrolytes, started feeling better. I started losing weight and having a few weight loss plateaus. Spring came and I started fasted rides outside. 1 pseudo bonk, after pushing myself way too hard for 90 min. I took a 15 min break, started riding and within a few min, was completely recovered. That was approx 10 weeks after going keto. The power and endurance improved steadily. Weight loss, energy and sense of well being great now. My watts/kg went from abysmal to really good, same with V2O max. I am constantly getting new PRs on roads and mountain bike trails that I have been on 200+ times. I am not keto but low carb now. Basically I just top up the glycogen as needed but mostly under 80 grams of carb. Recovery is fantastic even after a hard session. Only a small amount of carbs with some fructose is needed to top up glycogen and improve protein absorption to improve or maintain muscle mass. From 24 weeks onward, my ftp power is higher than it was when I was carb addicted and weighing much more.
Rockhead Gary I was very similar in the beginning with power till my body adapted and then had huge gains
Famous Mark Allen had great success with highfat & Zone2 type training. Max Aerobic Function. From memory he went from 9min miles with Dr Phil Maffetone... and ended up superbly fat adapted to the tune of 6min miles at the same topeend zone2 (for example 150bpm). Always fascinating. Cheers
Good stuff - I actually mentioned to Alex that he incorrectly equated Keto to LCHF and he agreed they were not the same and apologized. He did say there were LCHF people in the test but I did not see any macros for them so have no idea what LCHF means for the people in the test. I have been LCHF for over 3 years and along with controlling weight without watching calories - I actually do not count carbs either as go by what I feel - and do just fine on long rides and shorter harder ones. One other issue I find is that when one looks at high end athletes they at what ares still shorter races, yes a marathoner that does a 2:10 is still out there a relatively short time, with a HR that probably nudges them to the limit of their cross over. IT has been found that even HCLF people can better their fat burning but there are limits and for the endurance athlete where it is about more time burning calories the LCHF approach comes more into play. None of this deal at all with the overall health benefits of a LCHF diet, I am not talking KETO even some would argue Keto is healthier, which is probably even more important.
I have these conversations over and over and talk to many in the HCLF realm and they say we need to do better studies - well there have been quite a few studies, such as the FASTER Study but the truth is there is little money out there for these studies as there is little to be gained by the Sports Carb industry so why are they going to spend the money. And as I think it was Volek who said - may have been someone else - it is hard to get a carb guy to transfer over if they have sponsors as their performance may indeed go down for a time and then if one of their sponsors is a carb company there is that issue. Then again Jeff Browning who is a LCHF guy who uses strategic carbs when racing has Gu as a sponsor.
Bottom line is all too often the tests done are done to disprove something and in the desire to do that often the direction the tests fo accomplishes that. Burke who did this study, I think, had been criticized the first time that there was not enough time to transition but even in this study there was not enough time. Yes one may transition some in a few months but if one is like me it has taken a few yers of tinkering to figure out what is best.
Thanks again for the video.
Exactly 👍
Keep it up bruv.
Keto cyclist and I've done century rides in the Colorado front range completely fasted and set Strava pr's and a top ten on one such ride. And I'm in my 40s. I've had to give glucose tabs to cyclist half my age that fell out trying to keep up.
Attia, Phinney, Volik, Inkonnen, the guy who started spinning classes.
The only thing that holds me back is saddle sores.
Nice to see the low carb heritage of people like Tim Noakes and Jeff Volek becoming the gold standard across the board.
Nice vid 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
This is technically interesting and as a Doctor in Biomechanics, I consider food intake to be crucial in endurance. However one main variable is that we are all individuals with varied genetics. I just eat sensibly with decent nutrition....thats it. Never wait to be hungry or thirsty....just keep topped up. Fats, carbs...everything I take on board...whatever suits my gut feeling.
I appreciate your more balanced take on LCHF training. While I don't know LCHF is something I will try, I agree fully there is a lot of middle ground between Keto and all carbs/all the time.
One piece of nuance that was't mentioned was the importance of carbs during high intensity training sessions. As you stated, studies have demonstrated depleted glycogen stores will inhibit our top end performance. While we may not need top end speed on race day, most triathletes will have 1-3 high intensity sessions a week and almost certainly wouldn't get as much out of them as they could if not properly fueled. The same researchers suggest it can be helpful to have one or two carb-depleted sessions per week as long as you are working in low intensity for the same reason - you are fueling for your workout and, indeed, wanting to increase your body's fat-oxidation abilities.
Secondly, I have heard podcasts featuring the very researchers investigating LCHF diets and how they address the adaptation period. Physiologically speaking, investigators conclude it only takes a week to adapt to the new diet. The lead researcher of the Supernova study was featured on That Triathlon Show and discusses the studies at length: scientifictriathlon.com/tts236/. Among many conclusions, she suggests there can be benefits to LCHF in training, but that it alone is not the answer.
No matter what any study says, we are ultimately an N of 1. LCHF may work extremely well for some individuals, and it is important to know what works for you and why. And, as you say, there is a lot of middle ground on what a LCHF diet is - I would contend there is a lot of middle ground on how low carb nutrition can be applied to training.
I might be wrong here, but Triathlon Taren, I think you might have understood the 'they consumed an additional 7.1 percent of oxygen at their approximate 20K race speed and an additional 6.2 percent at their 50K race speed' bit ?
Thisll probably be the straw that gets me blocked here like it did on IG but oh well.
This has always been a sticking point for Taren. He doesn’t blind or control his own tests and assumes causation. He doesn’t know how to evaluate studies for quality and is very influenced by bias. Alex Hutchinson isn’t trying to sell people his training program. He’s selling a book, if that. His writing is so logical and impartial. It’s like claiming the dictionary spelled a word wrong.
Plews is selling a program and as such he can never be impartial enough to be relied on as an expert. Doing so is dangerous.
Endurance sports are rife with eating disorders. Lionel Sanders and Jani Brajkovic and Amelia Boone are some of the most outspoken on this. There are a number of pros that are clearly unhealthy. Even more amateurs bc they don’t have a team supporting them.
This stuff is very dangerous and the closer you approach being dogmatic; the more likely you are to be wrong and bring harm. If Alex Hutchinsons work has said anything it is that most of our assumptions about traditional performance are not correct. What is correct is that nothing is correct.
Taren this is big gap in your brand and I hope you will find a way to be honesty impartial and empirically scientific rather than throwing out a few “well maybe it is maybe it isn’t.”
“The general who advances without covering fame and who retreats without fear of disgrace... is the jewel of the kingdom.” - Sun Tzu
Sure LCHF will help someone who is time crunched and trying to improve will help. But how about instead of spending all this time worrying about which diet is better, we just eat and then go on a 4-6 hour ride on the weekend which also, guess what, improves your body's ability to access fat as fuel. If you say you can't do that, split it up, and do 3 hours one day, 2 the next. Stop trying to maximise a sub optimal training strategy when you're better off adding a few hours a week.
This is the problem with a lot of people nowadays, always looking for the magic pill. If you want to get faster, increasing volume is what it takes. It is hard work and a lot of mind numbing miles. There is no shortcuts when it comes to endurance sports.
Done a few hard 100km rides recently on low low sugar eating programme....bad recovery.....took sugar at the end for 3 hours and during the ride and recovered much faster and better... 3 hours after the ride switch back to low sugar input until the next good size workout
If all you negative people want to criticise tarens advice don't follow the page he is not forcing you to listen go do what you want no issues
To be honest, I've stopped watching your videos primarily because you are promoting the lchf approach. It might work when tightly controlled but its simply dangerous if not. And frankly, most triathletes - even with huge commitment - don't weigh their food.
The video sounds like he’s slowly sloooooooly backtracking a bit lol. From keto to moderate carbs....
@@seanchin When did he promote keto? I can't find a single video of him promoting keto.
@@wowitsjames he has 10 videos about his keto morning coffee stuff
This is also why I've stopped watching...
@@seanchin So he mentions that he has a keto morning coffee every day and you interpret this as his full, dogmatic endorsement of the ketogenic diet, completely ignoring all of his statements that he's not keto, has never been keto, and doesn't endorse keto? LOL. Simpleton.
Whether you're on Team Carbs or Team LCHF, it's clear that if there was an advantage to low carbs, a majority of pro athletes would be following such practices. Kenyan distance runners and Tour DeFrance cyclists all report to intake 7-12g/kg of body weight of carbs daily. The world's best endurance athletes are not following a low carb protocol.
Instant energy right when needed, perhaps? Cyclist could do just fine without carbs, but it's the final moments of a race and the sprint that needs carbs like a mofo.
It might be useful to consider who is objectively an authority in a field if posting a video making claims about science.
Louise Burke: scholar.google.co.nz/citations?hl=en&user=dAoAR6sAAAAJ
29019 citations
H-index 90
340+ publications
Dan Plews: scholar.google.co.nz/citations?user=MsiKyl8AAAAJ&hl=en
1751 citations
H-index 18
40+ publications
Also worth pointing out that Dan Plews has mostly studied HRV, not diet and exercise metabolism. That may be a large part of his coaching philosophy, but not his research portfolio, unlike Louise Burke.
Restricting carbohydrates with a keto diet or fasting will tire you earlier when you exercise. Many studies show that low-carbohydrate diets impair performance in sports that require speed.
More and more top endurance athletes are proving you wrong. Under 2 hours, the carb addicted athlete, yeah. However, beyond 3 hours, the fat adapted athlete comes into their own. 5,6, 7 hours into an event, so many top athletes that live primarily on carbs in training and doing events suffer GI issues, abdo and muscle cramping, and relative dehydration. The LCHF athlete will cycle carbs in and out as needed to maintain optimal glycogen stores and metabolic flexibility. The more fat adapted athlete is, the more fat will be burned and higher intensity sparing glycogen stores. For me, I find I am drinking less fluids and still feeling hydrated especially at the end, unlike when I eat a lot of carbs, felt bloated, puffy and thirsty.
Those "many studies" stop the study before 12 weeks in most cases. 12 weeks is roughly where most people see the performance return. A few weeks more, 16-20, most athletes start seeing their performances improve over when they were carb addicted.
I tried LCHF for 6 months. My hair fell out and I was spotting and bleeding all month. When I stopped the LCHF the bleeding and spotting still didn‘t stop. I continued to have hormonal issues the six months after. I started a high carb low fat diet two weeks ago and my between period bleeding stopped completely. Also my swim pace and bike speed increased immediately. High carb is clearly the right thing for me.
lol yes it is
Thanks for the information: everyone needs to investigate and make choices for their body and training needs.
One of your best mate. So you’re training LCHF but then how do you fuel for races to ensure you’re carrying enough carbs without restricting fat utilization?
the only people in the world that can eat a high fat high carb and high protein diet and still be healthy are world class athletes... if you train hard 8 hours a day and burning 10,000 calories a day it doesent matter what you eat you need to eat
Subscribed! Really enjoyed that. Keep up the good work and thanks for what you do
Good stuff! Would you be able to post up links to all the articles you refer to, please?
So my aim is to lose 17kg of body fat. If I intermittent fast 16/8 on weekdays, Do 1 hr of weights, 1 hr of Zwift FTP training program on Mon, Tues, Thurs and Friday. Rest days on Wed and Weekend. Optional outdoor ride at weekend. Training inside IF window. Is this a good way to go to reduce body fat and keep muscle? Weekend I will try to eat normally to refeed my body. Testosterone is currently low, so taking D3, B6, Zinc, Vit D.
Great information, thanks T
What you do not say is that it is perfectly possible to become fat adapted without going on a LCHF or Keto
Most people eat far too many junk carbs, sweetened foods, white bread, pasta, white rice, sweet/sports drinks etc. We could all do well to cut these from our diets. However, not all carbs are bad.
My policy is eat a balanced whole food diet, eat healthy carbs (with the odd treat). Work on fat adaptation in training
I am against Keto diet on the basis that it can be extremely unhealthy. A properly managed LCHF diet, that contains a proper balance of nutrients (without supplements) is probably fine, but not for me.
Keto can help you transition into fat burning but fasting and fasted training is the key. Keto just makes it easier especially the meal preceeding a fast. High fibre vegetables like asparagus, kale and beetroot work wonders the meal before a fast and fasted training.
Me = take sugar b4 ,during and 3 hours after 40km + hard rides...then return to low low sugar.....only holding the sugar i need in the muscles ...not enough to add fat ...
Eat 2 ribeyes and call it a day.
Question. Does Teran have any qualifications on this. Or is all your knowledge experience based/taken from others
It's Taren...and isn't the bulk of ALL our knowledge based/taken from others?
@@ph1sh3rman was a question. Not a dig.
Same here!
@steve O’Neill the argument of authority is always a fallacy.
As a complete sucker for sugar I'm going to slowly go down from my usual 8-900gram per day to around 150gram and try a few months and see how it feels.
Excellent video as always.
You have to replace the calories with something. Don't fear fat. Eat enough protein.
weekend courses do not give you the mental capacity to understand how studies are conducted, cherry picking studies from google and highlighting the title and abstract is the dumbest thing ever.
So what do we eat and drink during the long rides follow by a run without bonking? The train is like almost every day so I feel like the endurance and low carbs/plus fasting world can’t coexist. Help.
Apparently carbs in your system spike your insulin, presence of insulin shuts down lipolysis (fat burning). Is that true?
Yep, very true
it all depends an what carbs. If you mean refined sugars then the answer is that you insulin will shoot up. With fruit and vegetables blood sugar spikes are much less. Of course, eating carbs will reduce fat burning because carbs are an easier fuel for your body than fats. If I want to burn fat then I drink water during training. If I am on a longer ride outside and don't want to meet the 'man with the hammer', then I take sports drinks.
actually fat causes insulin resistance czcams.com/video/tKGK2saMd7s/video.html
@@seanchin exactly right. So, as a diabetic, when you go on a low carb diet, your blood sugar will improve immediately. This even allows some people to stop taking medication. On the other hand, your insulin resistance will increase. In a way, it treats only the symptoms of diabetes. There was one youtube video comparing a diabetic to a clogged machine: bad at processing carbs because of the fat. Then eating less carbs allows the clogged machine to process the few carbs that are left, but at the same time clogging up the machine further.
@@seanchin He omitted some information. Title, misleading, polyunsaturated fats come from seed oils and that is bad. Industrialized farms feed their animals that. I personally eat happy free to eat grass cows. The fat hypothesis causing diabetes is a partial truth. It does clog the insulin receptors when insulin is high and triglycerides that you get from high glycemic carbs is high therefore causing some insulin resistance. The main reason for type 2 diabetes is that the pancreas is overworked and putting out poorer quality insulin, and that is caused by again, triglycerides and polyunsaturated fats combined. They calcify the islets of langerhan that produce the insulin. Fasting improves both those worsening contributing factors to type 2 diabetes and have totally reversed type 2 diabetes. Keto improves those conditions. Anyone on keto basically avoids sugar, but it is also taught by many keto coaches, you don't ever mix high fat with high glycemic in the same meal on a cheat day. Carbs and proteins, proteins and fats, but never carbs and fat. Look up Dr. Jason Fung on insulin resistance. He is a nephrologist that wrote the obesity code. Thomas Delauer is a great source as well.
Great video = have been doing low carb high fat diet x 3yrs = it is as U say = people just have to be patient when doing it = (:`)
FASTR study is only scientific study that compares carbed athletes to keto athletes in controlled study.
Excellent video! Thank you.
Where can I go for LFHC approach to my diet ? I did it once before and went sub 10 at Ironman WA but would like some professional guidance
Any one has some insights on macro ratio?
30% carbs
35% proteïnes
35% fats
Is my macro ratio? Should i go lower in carbs?
I think the statement in Plews Conclusion to his twelve week study is "VLCHF did not impair..." performance.
It doesn't say it improved performance.
Frankly being in ketoacidosis (you can call it ketosis but it's the same thing) is something best left alone. Ask any type 1 diabetic how they feel about being in DKA and you have to ask yourself why you would try this just to see if it improves your performance by some unquantifiable amount.
Again the statement that "being able to access fat as a fuel source" is somehow equivalent to needing to be on a LCHF diet is not proven.
Nobody is arguing that accessing fat as a fuel source is true. There's just not enough evidence that this one specific LCHF diet can do it for you.
Comparing nutritional ketosis to diabetic ketoacidocis, is like comparing a fire place to a house fire...
DKA is very high levels of protein breakdown that causes keto acidosis. Nutritional ketosis is from the break down of fats, that results in much much lower levels of ketones. As it is, more and more type one diabetics that have been following a ketogenic diet have had their insulin reduced. Anyway, the HFLC keto diet produces ketones that the body burns cleanly. Cant say that about carbs. Carbs result in lots of free radicals and other byproducts of metabolism. It takes about 12 weeks to start to see the real improvements in performance. A few more weeks and things get even better. Higher endurance performance, faster recovery, and less body aches. I was 40 weeks in and hit my highest power in years. I am fitter and stronger, lighter now at 54 than when I was 30 and carbed up.
Not sure if your intention was to muddy the water confusing diabetic keto acidosis with nutritional ketosis.
@@mtnbikehead You can just google this to know you're wrong. Ketones are a byproduct of breaking down fat for energy, not proteins. The ketoacidosis caused by the "diet" and caused by being diabetic are the same thing in varying amounts.
@@andrewbird6966 We evolved this way. A fat adapted person will burn ketones. It’s not a useless or harmful byproduct but a clean fuel source. Water and Co2 are the products left behind. Non inflammatory. You can google it. Koala bears brains shrunk when they turned vegan. Vegans are modern day Koalas. wexnermedical.osu.edu/blog/boost-your-brain-power-with-the-right-nutrition
www.diabetes.co.uk/keto/measuring-ketosis-on-a-keto-diet.html
Brilliant approach 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Look up Professor Tim Noakes.
I think it is all personal choice. It is important we question every finding that is why science works all findings are correct until they are proven wrong. I choose to follow LCHF but believe in freedom of choice. If you don't want to follow it don't. Whilst 'The Plews' is well respected it is worth looking at both sides of the argument and other scientific papers and remember not just reading the abstract.
3 and 1/2 weeks to convert....you have to kidding. Try like 3-6 months. My brother is a Navy Seal and he says all the teams have gone keto as their performance after an initial drop goes up. If it is good enough for the Seals.......
the fat you eat is the fat you wear
Three and a half weeks on this diet? This study in meaningless :))
High carb low fat is best
Test at least 4 months to 1 year keto adopted athletes. Keto is still improving after few months.
Bs discussion everyone is playing dr on the internet - eat balanced, train hard, not overtraining, enjoy the process, have fun
Yep...
I found out that a "gallon of milk a day" solves all problems.
Why are you still breast feeding?
Don't knock low carb until you do it properly and combine it with MAF training. For me it is the complete bomb best thing ever in the world. Louise Bourke head zero idea about us triathlete. She is the typical sports scientist clown. Carbs are not evil.. carbs from green veggies are good .. you need to manage intake and balance according to your personal needs body composition and training requirements.. every one is different... If your overweight stop eating lots of carbs and sugar..
Eat what works with your body
It works !
I can't bring myself to eat HIGH-fat diet.
That’s because we’ve been lied to about the “dangers” of saturated fat for the last 50 years. Look up the latest information.
yes agreed you might get fat adapted but what is happening to your T3/T4 and other hormons ....
My thyroid meds are almost half of what they were 20 months ago. It takes awhile for the body to adjust. I am 54 and was on high dose thyroxine for years. Not anymore.
Taren are you a slipknot fan 😂
Carb cycling, common sense!
More TT clickbait. Even if the haters watch he still benefits from the revenues.
Love it!!
There are professional triathletes who have become pre diabetic because of all the carb loading !.
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At around 2:45 is the athlete I'm referring to
You said triathletes? One person is not a reason to he concerned. Genetics play a big part on diabetes as well.
David Peters genetics yes. However, it’s more than the sugars, it’s the oils consumed as well. Too much sugar increases insulin production overworking the pancreases constantly trying to keep up with the sugar spikes and and drops along with glucagon levels. Polyunsaturated oils apparently calcify and are deadly to the islets of Langheran (sp?) so they produce less and less good insulin. Poor timing of fats eaten with high glycemic carbs gum up the insulin channels in muscle resulting in higher insulin levels.
Dr. Jason Fung “The obesity code” Dr Bikman, Phinney, Volek, Dr Pail Mason.
Fats and protein is essential. Carbs are not
That is a stupid statement.
@@davidpeters7447 your stupid
Exogenous carbs are not essential But, one could argue that glucose is so essential that the body has created a means to generate it, even in the absence of exogenous carbohydrates.
In my 8 years of using ketogenic diets (CKD, TKD, SKD) off and on, I do see benefits to my sleep, performance, and mental health when carbs are in my diet, but I lose the mental clarity, even energy, and I am hungry all the time.
@@WtfCZcams_YouSuck carbs werent used for energy until wheat and grains were harvested. Until then it was basically keto diet. People lived without glucose for thousands of years
@@johnnye6090 Exactly, granted there were some exceptions like seasonal fruits and berries. But carbohydrates have not been a reliable source of energy until the invention of agriculture, which is blip on the scale of evolutionary time.
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