The Twin Prodigies, Academy Revolt & Starscourge | Full Elden Ring Lore Recap (pre SotE): Episode 6

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  • čas přidán 16. 06. 2024
  • Welcome to our sixth episode on the Timeline of Elden Ring - the Twin Prodigies, the Academy Rebellion against the Carians, and the Starscourge Conflict where Radahn held Sellia Secure. An in depth video including the Golden Order, Radagon, Ranni, Rykard, Radahn, Malenia, Miquella, Godwyn and the Haligtree. There is of course lots of uncertainty and speculation, as with any attempt to make an Elden Ring timeline, so this is all just our own theory!
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    Soundtrack:
    Okami - Himikos Sorrow
    ChainDive - 06_Track 06
    Red Dead Redemption 2 - Main theme
    Ico - Castle in the mist
    Full Metal alchemist - Avenue
    Full Metal alchemist - Heavenly Spirit
    Hollow Knight - Greenpath
    The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess - Gerudo Dessert
    Machinarium - The Sea
    Elden Ring - Rennala Queen of the Full Moon
    GravityRush - Discovery of Gravitation
    Gravity Rush - Honeymoon
    Sable - Glider (intro loop)
    The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - Ice cavern
    Gothic II - "Lobart's Farm"
    Resident Evil Remake - "Save Theme"
    Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones - "Dangerous Road"
    Croc: Legend of the Gobbos - "Underwater Theme 1"
    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic - "The Old Republic"
    Gothic II - "Hunt And Prey"
    Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords - "Jek'Jek Tarr"
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Komentáře • 90

  • @Hawkshaw
    @Hawkshaw  Před 10 dny +15

    Episode 7 is available NOW to Hawk Lord supporters of the channel!
    Lots of episodes being released close together now due to some delays, but we hope to have the full series out before the DLC! Lots of events in this episode, which as always is only our own theory and involves lots of speculation. Looking forward to your own thoughts on these events!

  • @christmasham4312
    @christmasham4312 Před 10 dny +66

    Lots of hawkshaw content lately 👏🏽👏🏽🥲

    • @EslytheCrow
      @EslytheCrow Před 10 dny +1

      I have noticed too, this is good to see!

    • @Humblemumble7
      @Humblemumble7 Před 10 dny +4

      It's because he's letting all the ones he had behind the Patreon pay wall go free

    • @Hawkshaw
      @Hawkshaw  Před 10 dny +33

      Patrons have only been one episode ahead on this series. We've just had some delays, and want to have it all out before the DLC so we can focus on that - so it'll be a busy week!

    • @humanname5684
      @humanname5684 Před 10 dny

      Good luck

    • @mrpuggerson
      @mrpuggerson Před 8 dny +1

      Almost as if a DLC is coming out and every Souls content creator is whoring out as much content as they can since it’s trending. The algorithm likes it.

  • @mitchelherald3271
    @mitchelherald3271 Před 10 dny +28

    Hawkshaw on fire. I feel like it’s the Second Golden Age!

  • @egocide9034
    @egocide9034 Před 10 dny +27

    Hawkshaw, gotta say, you put in serious work. And it's some of the absolute best. Very much appreciated, thank you.

  • @armandaneshjoo
    @armandaneshjoo Před 10 dny +12

    This pre-DLC series has surprisingly surpassed Vaati, Smoughtown, and all lore summaries on youtube.

    • @uhmmmFU
      @uhmmmFU Před 10 dny +1

      Not all that surprising. All the videos on this channel have been high effort.

    • @armandaneshjoo
      @armandaneshjoo Před 10 dny +3

      @@uhmmmFU Hawkshaw's work is high-effort, and high-quality. but it was not not highly condensed up until now.

  • @tristanneal9552
    @tristanneal9552 Před 10 dny +15

    I'd guess the reason Radagon left Rennala is that Ranni was identified as an Empyrean, and so the Greater Will directed Marika to make him her consort so Ranni could be folded into the Golden bloodline. After all, we know Iji talking about her and Blithe that she was identified as an Empyrean at a very young age, so Radagon presumably left Rennala early into Ranni's life.

    • @PickledTyrant
      @PickledTyrant Před 10 dny

      Bro I’ve always wondered about that moment myself good stuff!!

  • @magicmirrorgaming
    @magicmirrorgaming Před 10 dny +10

    The question of the Golden Order's motives and Radahn's complicity or awareness in halting the stars is one of the most interesting parts of the game to me. While we won't know for sure until the DLC drops, it is keenly interesting to me that killing *Radahn*, not just Mohg, is necessary to access the DLC. Does this mean that, perhaps, Miquella too had a fate the Golden Order intended to fetter? After all, the Amber Starlight in Leyndell is found beneath a hidden statue of Miquella and Malenia, surrounded by Sacramental Buds and informing us that "amber-hued stars" might "control the fate of gods."

    • @MutantHeadcrab
      @MutantHeadcrab Před 10 dny +2

      Which is interesting, because the story trailer explicitly states that Miquella has abandoned his fate. It could also be that it's not Miquella's fate that needs to be unfettered, but that fate in general must be able to progress for his plans to come to fruition.

  • @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV
    @BasicallyBaconSandvichIV Před 10 dny +6

    2 videos in as many days? Wow, I know the DLC is coming out soon but we are getting PAMPERED!
    Not to mention the quality of this series! I absolutely love it, to the point of using it for my Final Supper Of The Day.

  • @Mario-SunshineGalaxy64
    @Mario-SunshineGalaxy64 Před 10 dny +13

    Another discrepancy about Radahn holding back the stars is that it’s thought of as a net positive because it prevents creatures like Astels and Fallingstar Beasts from setting foot in the Lands Between. However, those creatures have already been around for a long time and are seemingly no more of a threat than other creatures that roam the Lands Between like dragons or Rune Bears. Additionally, it doesn’t seem like the Golden Order struggled with Astels or Fallingstar Beasts, nor does any other faction outright consider them a threat except for the Nox. So saying that Radahn holding back the stars is a good thing doesn’t seem to be true.

    • @charlesfisher-kh5sw
      @charlesfisher-kh5sw Před 10 dny

      isn't astel one completely unique individual? why's it plural?

    • @Mario-SunshineGalaxy64
      @Mario-SunshineGalaxy64 Před 10 dny +5

      @@charlesfisher-kh5sw There are two Astels in the game: Astel, Naturalborn of the Void and Astel, Stars of Darkness.
      Astel, Naturalborn of the Void is found in the Grand Cloister before the Moonlight Alter and is the one that destroyed one of the Eternal Cities and wiped out their sky.
      Astel, Stars of Darkness is found in Yelough Anix Tunnel in the Consecrated Snowfield.
      Malformed Stars are generally considered to be immature versions of Astels and those are scattered around in a few places underground.

    • @gabrielgutierrezgonzalez4054
      @gabrielgutierrezgonzalez4054 Před 10 dny +2

      Great point! But considering that meteorites could have been the cause of the death of the Titans and the current state of Farum Azula whould make sense to stilk consider It a good thing, despite the golden order reasons to orchestrate it

    • @facundovera3227
      @facundovera3227 Před 7 dny

      Shout out you, the strongest Radahn hater.

  • @DirtRider999
    @DirtRider999 Před 10 dny +11

    I joined last night hawk! Thank you for the videos

  • @Alex-mn1fb
    @Alex-mn1fb Před 10 dny +5

    Idk if im just an Empyrean elitist, but I truly love Miquella Malenia and Ranni the most

    • @TOUGHEYES
      @TOUGHEYES Před 10 dny +1

      Godrick was spoiled as a man, but Grafting begets the concept of Totality. An older idea from the Primordial Elden Ring.
      Radahn freaking loves animals, & his father figures.
      Morgott was someone who upheld an Order he never saw himself a part of, even though he was.
      I have nothing good to say about Mohg.
      Rykard before the Serpent prosecuted even the legitimacy of the Golden Order.
      And Hoarah Loux is man enough to steal your woman, have her fall for him, and eat her afterwards after giving birth to his children. Which you really can't top, tbh.

    • @Blatgotyahatty
      @Blatgotyahatty Před 9 dny +3

      This won’t age well guys

    • @Alex-mn1fb
      @Alex-mn1fb Před 9 dny

      @@Blatgotyahatty Griffith did nothing wrong! 😅

    • @poopikins
      @poopikins Před dnem

      ​@@TOUGHEYESWhat was that last part? 👀

  • @KitsuneShapeShifter
    @KitsuneShapeShifter Před 9 dny +3

    Arise now, Ye Tarnished,
    SmoughTown, Chieftain of the Lore-lands
    The Ever Brilliant, Hawkshaw
    Quelaag, the Lore-Bed Companion
    And Sir Vaati Vidya, the AAAAULL KNOWING

  • @codipedersen2374
    @codipedersen2374 Před 10 dny +3

    The amount of content your putting out is amazing and it goes to show like all of us elden ring is just on your mind 24/7 🎉
    I'm overseas from my home and can't play elden ring again until August but damn I can't help but spoil myself.

  • @s0nnasauras630
    @s0nnasauras630 Před 10 dny +2

    I like that miquella has an eye covering like his sister very interesting take

  • @johneverimanne3986
    @johneverimanne3986 Před 10 dny +2

    I always assumed that in that cinematic depicting Melania jump on top of Radahn, she is both stabbing him and herself, breaking the gold needle in her flesh and allowing her to bloom. And it's kinda sad that after all she seemingly overcame, she gave into her rot. And I think that Millicent's quest is there to highlight how Melania betrayed her truly dignified self, to overcome a foe she might not have been able to.

  • @Broseftoast
    @Broseftoast Před 10 dny +12

    dang bro you're pushing out these vids like a mad man. I hope you're getting sleep and rest bro. Thanks for the upload, love your channel.

  • @cbunny6671
    @cbunny6671 Před 9 dny +3

    2:20 could be Miquella, but it could also be Gold Mask.
    He is defined as a genius multiple times in item descriptions, and "learned" Fundamentalism, unlike Miquella who created it.
    His mask also boosts golden order fundamentalism incantations.
    The use of "a certain person" is likely meant to be ambiguous, but it could also be a translation error. Could go either way.

  • @RansomSubject_
    @RansomSubject_ Před 10 dny +3

    You guys are absolutely PUMPING out episodes!

  • @D_Jester
    @D_Jester Před 10 dny +2

    Between you and Vaati, us Souls Lore nerds are eating really well leading up to the DLC.

  • @ainsly19
    @ainsly19 Před 10 dny +2

    How quickly are whipping these out bro i can't keep up im still on ds1 😂❤

  • @strike4177
    @strike4177 Před 9 dny +1

    Hollowknight ost was a real nice touch!

  • @Sayocakes
    @Sayocakes Před 10 dny +2

    So glad you guys keep up so well lately. You deserve to be able to live off of tlyour content and I have a feeling it's gonna happen soon seeing your dedication

  • @Horstolord04
    @Horstolord04 Před 10 dny +1

    I hope the dlc has atleast half as much content as this channel!❤

  • @ALaz502
    @ALaz502 Před 10 dny +2

    Damn you and your quality content that pulls me away from work.

  • @ElMasCaporo99
    @ElMasCaporo99 Před 10 dny +2

    Malenias prosthesis are made of unalloyed gold, that is why they don't desapear in her second phase. Her clothes rot away while her golden prosthetis and blade don't are affected. Also I think that Miquellas rune was the one gifted to Renala, the rebirth rune. That is why neither him or the albinaurics archived the metamorphosis they desired, that power was given away by Radagon.

    • @DanielGarcia-rx3kt
      @DanielGarcia-rx3kt Před 10 dny +2

      The description of the prosthesis simply says gold and the Hand of Malenia says it was consecrated. No mention of unalloyed gold anywhere. Nothing specifies that it needs to be unalloyed to be resistant to rot given that Iji created blunt weapons resistant to rot as well. There's a chance Miquella put something into the gold of the prosthesis and the katana to protect them from rot hence why they aren't unalloyed. The Needle being Unalloyed to still the rot probably necessitated it to be as such since it's directly affecting her curse-laden body and time is a factor. All speculation, of course.

    • @PickledTyrant
      @PickledTyrant Před 10 dny

      Bro Miq wasn’t born yet at that point

  • @jamescameron9133
    @jamescameron9133 Před 9 dny +1

    It may sound weird but im pretty sure Radahn is an analogoy for Fenrir the wolf from norse mythology. I think halting the stars is a clever trick to sap Radahn's power, as Fenrir was bound through the trickery of the Gods.

  • @Gord-writesGhost
    @Gord-writesGhost Před 10 dny +1

    Excited to watch this! Something silly but curious to me is the intricacies of Trina and her identity, specifically if it may be possible she is (a child of Rennala?) of Carian (royal) blood.
    Depending on there being some deception or subversion of expectations at play.

  • @GoLifting
    @GoLifting Před 10 dny +1

    Can’t wait for post release lore dives 🔥🔥

  • @Clonewhopunchedadroid1
    @Clonewhopunchedadroid1 Před 10 dny +1

    You always make incredible videos

  • @sk8legendz
    @sk8legendz Před 10 dny +2

    RDR2 music caught my ear. great choice

  • @Yummylist
    @Yummylist Před 8 dny

    One man is singlehandedly responsible for the chains holding back the onlooking of previews for this tarnished, his name is Hawkshaw

  • @hystericbunny76
    @hystericbunny76 Před 9 dny

    this was so beautiful. we will uncover alot about miquella, through the dlc.

  • @9Cans
    @9Cans Před 10 dny +1

    Love your content man, and your voice is awesome 🇨🇦❤️

  • @artemiscephei1339
    @artemiscephei1339 Před 10 dny +1

    Excellent explanations

  • @bk2yu
    @bk2yu Před 10 dny +2

    My favourite podcast has more content ❤

  • @ajax2309
    @ajax2309 Před 9 dny

    I'm behind the editing of the video up to 18:39. I hope you enjoy it!

  • @boyblue5320
    @boyblue5320 Před 10 dny +1

    second time around is always best

  • @huntclanhunt9697
    @huntclanhunt9697 Před 10 dny +1

    The siege of Carian Manor may very well have seen Rykard and Radahn arriving to defend their childhood home. That alone would have changed the tide imo.

  • @vasylpark2149
    @vasylpark2149 Před 10 dny

    Miquella has a ton of parallels with Gwyndolin.
    I just noticed that at the @09:05 the black knife forms a pinwheel
    In the heirloom both Malenia and her mentor wear a prosthesis
    The armors of the knights loyal to a demi-god are all identical in structure but their colors are what differ.

  • @thebombdiggity3941
    @thebombdiggity3941 Před 10 dny +1

    2 more sleeps and one long day to go!

  • @johnathonsnape-mclean3457

    AAAFUCKINYOOOO I HEARD THAT KNIGHTS OF THE OLD REPUBLIC MUSIC ❤️❤️❤️❤️

  • @davidschneider1996
    @davidschneider1996 Před 10 dny +2

    Thank you for the uploads this week!

  • @PhillipSchwimmbeck
    @PhillipSchwimmbeck Před 10 dny +3

    Lets goooooooo

  • @danielcallahan2981
    @danielcallahan2981 Před 10 dny

    I wonder if Miquella studied the effects of sleep as St. Trina due to the fact that most growth for young boys happens during sleep.

  • @halcyon62277
    @halcyon62277 Před 10 dny +2

    A little confused. The title is about the Twin Prodigies but half the video is about Radahn and Ranni.
    Or
    Do you mean to suggest Ranni and Radahn are also twin prodigies?

    • @Hawkshaw
      @Hawkshaw  Před 10 dny +3

      The episode is on the Twin prodigies, the Academy's Rebellion, and the Starscourge Conflict - the title just has a limited length unfortunately

    • @halcyon62277
      @halcyon62277 Před 10 dny +1

      @Hawkshaw ok, my apologies. I was confused and thought this was just about Malenia and Miquella. Thank you for clearing that up. It's probably in the description which I clearly didn't read before posting this comment. Lol

  • @shellbell5537
    @shellbell5537 Před 10 dny

    If Miquella loved the lily in his “youth” when was this? He’s forever youthful haha

  • @dbfzato-1327
    @dbfzato-1327 Před 10 dny

    have you noticed the haligttree is in fact 2 trees, we climb down a much bigger seemily alive tree to get to elphiel, we are told the erdtree didn't produce sap for long and it seems the tree i mentioned is currently dripping sap, the alive tree is where the oracles are as well not in the dead tree or surrounding city.... i think we had misinformation or at least misunderstanding of why the tree failed, im guessing the eclipse is needed to turn it from a normal giant tree into something more like the current erdtree giving out light and warmth

  • @Rakshael
    @Rakshael Před 10 dny +1

    @Hawkshaw do you think there's any evidence that the Greater Will and the Elden Beast's intentions split at any point? The dialogue of Enia and the Fingers at Radagon's barrier preventing the tarnished from entering seems to suggest a mismatch in purpose

    • @Darfail
      @Darfail Před 10 dny

      So for that I think that Enia herself is mentally ready for change (independently of whatever the 2 fingers may think apparently), radagon is holding on to the idea of the golden order and repairing the rune and that's why he and his symbol are blocking access

  • @dbfzato-1327
    @dbfzato-1327 Před 10 dny

    disk of light is such a op spell goes far, hits 2x and cost like 3fp! cant wait to see what spells the dlc adds, tho im thinking throwing weapons with int scaling, no fp cost.... might end up just using that instead lol
    the dlc gonna really add some build diversity as they can be scaled with ashes of war, everyone gonna have at least throwing daggers set to 2nd off hand slot :)

  • @GevlekteWalruz
    @GevlekteWalruz Před 10 dny +1

    Mate! I can’t keep up man. Not that it’s much of a bother to have some at hand.

  • @boyblue5320
    @boyblue5320 Před 10 dny +1

    hell ya agaiin agaaaaain

  • @dbfzato-1327
    @dbfzato-1327 Před 10 dny

    5:15 interesting mural, looks like a root with a ring, and inside that ring the tree, i think it's a metaphor for the world of the lands between the elden ring is reality, even got wolfs (shadows round the bottom) i think the lands between is above the lands of shadow its like bloodborne dlc the world has layers, i think because this world already is the afterlife, like greek or chinese mythology it's got different layers, we die to get to the lands between, i think this a underworld situation

  • @revan6441
    @revan6441 Před 17 hodinami

    Yo what’s with the Kotor theme? Caught me so off guard! Awesome nonetheless ❤

  • @PeachT87
    @PeachT87 Před 8 dny

    I believe that Radhan being the 'greatest demi-god' is Golden Order propaganda, he's only known for one event and even that isn't 100% attributed to him due to that item description.

    • @facundovera3227
      @facundovera3227 Před 8 dny

      Rykard: he fed himself to Eiglay.
      Ranni: she isn't much of a fighter, she did beat a glintstone dragon tho.
      Miquella: he isn't much of a fighter, and he's the most fearsome empyrean as well.
      Malenia: her only feat is that she fought off Radahn.
      Morgott: he was shunned and unknown about.
      Mohg: only known as the 'Lord of Blood' hasn't fought more than two people.
      Godwyn: more of a good friend than anything else, still he was pretty strong.
      Messmer: hot AF.
      Radahn: crushed the falling stars alone, arresting fate from a young age, fought in like five wars, he then was crippled by madness and his friend spent an age trying to give him an honorable death.

  • @JamesCourse66
    @JamesCourse66 Před 9 dny

    Anyone know what the first soundtrack that was playing?

    • @ajax2309
      @ajax2309 Před 9 dny +1

      It's Okami - Himikos Sorrow
      czcams.com/video/rjlH2ImdL6c/video.htmlsi=5Y7fyQQ3FwqzN6D7
      you can check the full descition to have the full list of the music used

    • @JamesCourse66
      @JamesCourse66 Před 8 dny +1

      @@ajax2309 Thank you!!!

  • @jorisguerret4427
    @jorisguerret4427 Před 6 dny

    Resident Evil rebirth Save Room 🥺

  • @panoskamp4324
    @panoskamp4324 Před 10 dny +2

    Bro is giving birth to lore videos faster than the average female in greek mythology

  • @coreyrachar9694
    @coreyrachar9694 Před 9 dny

    I wish hawkshaw was my dad!

  • @gorrammudder1600
    @gorrammudder1600 Před 10 dny

    "...The rank malformed twins..."

  • @fergalhennessy775
    @fergalhennessy775 Před 9 dny

    HOLY BASED

  • @writerblocks9553
    @writerblocks9553 Před 10 dny +11

    Miquella’s scientific creations reminds me of the developments that Islam made to the sciences to pursue religious fundamentalism

    • @movieman6456
      @movieman6456 Před 8 dny +1

      Catholic Church did the same thing. “To understand God, you had to understand the world that he created”.

  • @mrpuggerson
    @mrpuggerson Před 8 dny

    Really pumping out the videos you’ve been sitting on, eh? Must be because the DLC is dropping soon. Really playing that YT Algorithm, lmaoooo

  • @LandB2015
    @LandB2015 Před 9 dny

    Yeh but he's not always right. So yeah