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  • @SonicHaXD
    @SonicHaXD Před 4 lety +505

    This is such a hard tier list to make~ You combined pre MK9 and after MK9 (and comics) power levels of characters. So the same character could be the most OP character in one timeline and can also be the worst character in another. Fun tier list XD

    • @mexicoduck8109
      @mexicoduck8109 Před 4 lety +30

      KK if he compared after mk9 as well where the f(insert disco sound)ck is kk's wheelchair??? (Lover ur vids)

    • @smoke8572
      @smoke8572 Před 3 lety +6

      SonicHaXD From 2030: mortal kombat 12 is out and there is gonna be chaos happening

  • @revtreez_2162
    @revtreez_2162 Před 4 lety +737

    Let's all admit Kotal in a wheelchair is champion tier in our hearts.

    • @mrb4783
      @mrb4783 Před 4 lety +38

      I see your a man of culture

    • @sasquatch884
      @sasquatch884 Před 4 lety +3

      In facts

    • @Ziomaletto
      @Ziomaletto Před 3 lety +2

      @@nebula5371 Nah, just forgot for a moment how the lyrics goes (and didn't bother to check them, so...).

    • @Ziomaletto
      @Ziomaletto Před 3 lety +1

      @@nebula5371 I think I wouldn't be suprised if that happened...

    • @Bluberyline827
      @Bluberyline827 Před 3 lety +2

      definitily but what about other characters? think of how op onaga or shujinko in a wheelchair would be

  • @ThunderJuice
    @ThunderJuice Před 4 lety +368

    "Gonna give you five seconds to guess who's gonna go in the jobber tier"
    "Haha, it's Hsu H..."
    "It's Kano"
    "... ao's buddy, Kano"

  • @Borderlines
    @Borderlines Před 4 lety +151

    I have a strong desire to have Sindel and Twindel separated in every list possible

  • @Einamu
    @Einamu Před 4 lety +95

    Watching this makes me realise more and more how inconsistent Kotal Kahn is in terms of strength,
    He beats Kano, Tanya, Rain and Mileena in quick succession but then loses to Kung Jin and Jacqui.
    He is apparently strong enough for Havik to consider him a threat in the comics and makes it a point to control him but then he also turns around and gets his ass kicked by Jade in MK11.
    How are we supposed to rank this guy in terms of strength?

    • @paxtonstewart8042
      @paxtonstewart8042 Před 4 lety +15

      Einamu While I don’t have an argument against him losing Kung Jin and Jacqui I do have an argument for Jade. In Mk11 it’s established Kotal and Jade are in a relationship and have an extreme love for each other. Kotal would most likely have reservations against going all out against Jade, someone who he hasn’t been able to be with for over 20 years.

    • @marinopereira1461
      @marinopereira1461 Před 3 lety +9

      @@paxtonstewart8042 Kotal says in One intro with Kabal that he Lost against Jacqui cause he understimated her and i Guess thats why he lost to Kung Jin as well, Arrogance was What made him lose.

    • @alexandergapour1253
      @alexandergapour1253 Před 3 lety

      I do it was established they w
      here still beginners plus they actually lost most of thier cutscenes fight including one to erron black who was a jobber for most of the game

    • @eduardoherrera2368
      @eduardoherrera2368 Před 2 lety +1

      The controller gives them extra strength.

  • @JDB100
    @JDB100 Před 4 lety +386

    I am honestly shocked that Kotal Kahn isn’t in the Jobber Tier List after MK11/Aftermath.

    • @TheDigitalApple
      @TheDigitalApple Před 4 lety +114

      If only he had his wheelchair

    • @ADG.Est.1988
      @ADG.Est.1988 Před 4 lety +62

      I agree. I had such high expectations for kotal and he was relegated to Brooklyn brawler status. It's sad.

    • @AAAAAA-bm9qd
      @AAAAAA-bm9qd Před 4 lety +9

      @@TheDigitalApple he would easily beat everyone up

    • @drstephenstrange897
      @drstephenstrange897 Před 4 lety +51

      I will put Geras in jobber as well..."Oh I can regenerate myself...so I don't need to have any actual skill...so he keep losing"

    • @Takejiro24
      @Takejiro24 Před 4 lety +32

      To be fair, he's fallen aNd hE cAn't GEt uP

  • @SorcererShangTsung
    @SorcererShangTsung Před 4 lety +42

    “‘I am a prince!’ Yeah, whatever you say, Vegeta.” Made me laugh out loud lol

    • @lukejones7164
      @lukejones7164 Před 4 lety +10

      Rain = DBZ Vegeta
      Kung Lao = DBS Vegeta
      👍 if you get the difference lol.

    • @TheKing-qz9wd
      @TheKing-qz9wd Před 4 lety +5

      @@lukejones7164
      DBZ Vegeta was better in my opinion.

  • @oldmanwaterfall
    @oldmanwaterfall Před 4 lety +355

    I'd like to see this for Injustice, imagine having to rank Batman

    • @randomnerd3402
      @randomnerd3402 Před 4 lety +60

      @NeverLookBack In all cannon yes. It's kinda a plot hole in DC. Batman is too smart for any superpower

    • @mrwiewiur39
      @mrwiewiur39 Před 4 lety +58

      He'd have to rank him 3 times, because he's Batman.

    • @tamashironin2932
      @tamashironin2932 Před 4 lety +20

      It's why i think that the best batman is t.a.s batman.

    • @FookMi69
      @FookMi69 Před 4 lety +18

      Batman with Prep-Time, instantly god tier.

    • @TheKing-qz9wd
      @TheKing-qz9wd Před 4 lety +14

      @NeverLookBack
      Imagine a world where sonebody just used a bank robbery as bait and then hired Deadshot to blow Bruce's head off.
      Mmm... reality is a bitch.
      Then again, what's to stop Injustice or a Crime Syndicate from occuring if I mention reality in fiction?

  • @TheDigitalApple
    @TheDigitalApple Před 4 lety +316

    Everything Mk related: *Canon*
    Mk11 Sindel: *Not Canon*

    • @solidussnake2425
      @solidussnake2425 Před 4 lety +14

      Sindel's in mk11 ? I thought the kombat pack had 5 characters

    • @jennifercorbett8640
      @jennifercorbett8640 Před 4 lety +39

      @@solidussnake2425 She is, but her characterisation isn't

    • @solidussnake2425
      @solidussnake2425 Před 4 lety +1

      @@jennifercorbett8640
      Is this when I'm supposed to do the obligatory reddit thing ?

    • @jennifercorbett8640
      @jennifercorbett8640 Před 4 lety +1

      @@solidussnake2425 It appears that you are the one truely in need of obligatory Reddit meme.

    • @solidussnake2425
      @solidussnake2425 Před 4 lety

      @@jennifercorbett8640
      Mayhaps

  • @amedievalknight6yearsago691

    If Kotal was in a Wheelchair, he Would be higher than Champion.

  • @Gamer-ml9tn
    @Gamer-ml9tn Před 4 lety +165

    Kung Lao should be champion tier because he beat goro, kintaro, noob saibot, Shang tsung and Quan Chi.

    • @mlo009
      @mlo009 Před 4 lety +66

      Agreed, Kung Lao is below Liu, but I think he's the second best out there. I have more confidence in Kung Lao defending earth realm than say, Jax or Johnny.

    • @chadpeterson5698
      @chadpeterson5698 Před 4 lety +25

      Shao Kahn should also be champion tier since he's more than a boss since he just like Shang Tsung has been the final boss several times, defeated Liu Kang, defeated Raiden before the Elder Gods intervened, defeated both Cassie and Johnny Cage, killed Onaga twice once in a straight up fight, and killed Blaze. So he's not only a boss killer but he's also defeated the some of the champions in single kombat.

    • @thetf8142
      @thetf8142 Před 4 lety +31

      Onaga( in boss tier): beat Raiden, quan chi, and Shang tsung at the same time 3v1
      KRONIKA(in boss tier): literally killed the entire universe except liu Kang
      Goro (in champion tier): lost to cyber sub zero in a 2v1 with kitaro helping him
      Yea I wouldn’t take this guys tier list seriously it’s a joke

    • @Gamer-ml9tn
      @Gamer-ml9tn Před 4 lety +2

      Vinícius Braga I think he could because the only reason he died is because Shao khan cheated but if he didn’t I think Kung Lao would win

    • @James-oj6ru
      @James-oj6ru Před 4 lety +1

      Hey the tf, look at the name you fucking dumbass, and look at the lore as well

  • @mumblerogre2455
    @mumblerogre2455 Před 4 lety +178

    Kano should’ve been dead long ago. How did he make it through 9,X, and partially 11??

    • @MazeDaGr8
      @MazeDaGr8 Před 4 lety +55

      I agree he should've been gone but I believe they keep him around is because he's an OG

    • @Hillthugsta
      @Hillthugsta Před 4 lety +36

      He was supposed to have died after 3 and Jarek was supposed to be the "last" black dragon, but yeah, didnt pan out.

    • @seanmiller4170
      @seanmiller4170 Před 4 lety +4

      He cheats

    • @moopersworthninjason42nd81
      @moopersworthninjason42nd81 Před 4 lety +4

      The same way dsp is still around.... they're both pigroaches

    • @mexicoduck8109
      @mexicoduck8109 Před 4 lety

      Actually true lol

  • @gechoman44iwantahippo
    @gechoman44iwantahippo Před 4 lety +174

    “You guys are gonna know who goes In the jobber tier »
    Me: Hsu Hao? Meat? Mokap? Quan Chi?
    “It’s Kano”
    Well, now that you say that...

    • @thanhton6635
      @thanhton6635 Před 4 lety +24

      You think Quan Chi is weak because Jax oneshoot him to fainted, but you forgot that THAT IS JUST BECAUSE HE FELT DOWN FROM HIS FUCKING HORSE

    • @Eduardesuper
      @Eduardesuper Před 3 lety +6

      I’ve fallen from a horse and got right back up, Quan Chi is just a bitch when it comes to fighting, his specialty is sorcery.

    • @GRN01
      @GRN01 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Eduardesuper in the new timeline yeah definitely

  • @oldmanwaterfall
    @oldmanwaterfall Před 4 lety +90

    Kotal is more inconsistent than the Big Show in terms of skill and morality, and he's only been in 2 games.

    • @drstephenstrange897
      @drstephenstrange897 Před 4 lety +21

      This show how bad the writing is in the new games.

    • @oldmanwaterfall
      @oldmanwaterfall Před 4 lety +23

      @@drstephenstrange897 right. They push him to start as this integral new Emperor fighting to establish order. But then squander any good will he's earned by making him job to the Netherrealm Teen Titans over some petty nonsense. And that's all in 1 game, probably in back to back scenes.

    • @Ziomaletto
      @Ziomaletto Před 4 lety +13

      MKX: "The Earthrealm is lost... I will appease Shinnok, bring him your heads (...)"
      MK11: "We joined forces to battle Shinnok"
      *cue Johnny Cage bitchslapping Kotal Kahn*

    • @drstephenstrange897
      @drstephenstrange897 Před 4 lety +3

      @@Ziomaletto It's just...sigh...When I heard of this..."TITAN OF TIME" I was like "Ok in MK9 that time stuff was pretty dumb"...because I think "soft remake" are generally stupid it's like saying "Oh we don't have enough balls to go FULL...so we're kinda meh!"...it's like having ONE TESTICLE...there! And also was more like a middle finger to the people who like the 3d era( like me, don't get me wrong they're no masterpieces but I've had a lot of fun) ANYWAY, speaking of Kronika I was thinking of a character to make sense on all this time stuff, i was thinking of an interesting boss who was not really evil but a sort of "time moderator" you know like"OOOPS Raiden in mk9 that was kinda cheating, you sent Game Genie codes to yourself that's really wrong!" So you can have a more interesting take on MK the boss is not necessary evil is just punishing Raiden for cheating(i mean why bringin' back young Raiden and heroes if that was not her goal???) So we could have these 2 factions not evil and good but more like Raiden VS Kronika, the Raiden faction think defend Earth is the point and having Dark Raiden is a necessary evil for keep the Earthrealm safe, the Kronika faction think Dark Raiden is a threat for all realms, a sort of Cap.America Civil War...BUT NO! FUCK IT (insert so wasted potential joke here) KRONIKA is a bitch and she was evil the entire time FUCK YOU!

    • @KazeDBG
      @KazeDBG Před 3 lety +6

      They are weakening him to make the reveal of kk in a wheelchair all the more better

  • @jackdaone6469
    @jackdaone6469 Před 4 lety +117

    Sucks that my man Erron had to be kicked into Jobber tier, but I understand. One of the coolest kharacters created by NRS, and the dude gets fed to other fighters.

    • @mikeackworth1871
      @mikeackworth1871 Před 4 lety +11

      agreed i love his design and gameplay the mf was top tier in mkx and early mk11 but storyline wise he gets destroyed edit spelling

    • @nicolasramos2170
      @nicolasramos2170 Před 4 lety +4

      honestly, I never seen Erron's appeal, looks wise, he's cool of course, but at least in mk11 everybody looks good. Aside from that, he doesn't get too much going for him. Besides, he is so out of place, Ed said that he didn't like much the idea of putting Erron in the game. I even imagine someone had this idea because it would appeal to american audiences having a cowboy outlaw the roster, and that clearly works. I think that Erron would be cool if he had less cowboy and more of an outworld mercenary, since he's been living there for so long. But I respect your opinion of course, I have to say that even with everything I said, he started to grow on me a little in this game.

    • @brunowillich1837
      @brunowillich1837 Před 3 lety +9

      He's the boba fett of MK

    • @ryu411
      @ryu411 Před 3 lety +3

      Honestly don’t fuckin’ understand what you people see in that vapid and boring ass character... he’s entire identity is that he’s a mercenary cowboy... and a really fucking garbage one at that. I agree with the comment in this thread; he’s the Boba Fett of this franchise. People love him for no goddamn reason.

    • @ShiftyGuy777
      @ShiftyGuy777 Před 3 lety +5

      @@ryu411 because people sure love cowboys.

  • @SarpSpeaksSometimes
    @SarpSpeaksSometimes Před 4 lety +62

    Moral of the story is that everybody's gangsta until Bo' Rai Cho hits the gym

  • @dougexists
    @dougexists Před 4 lety +71

    I love videos where you can tell Snake is having fun, it's really enjoyable

  • @GiubileiFernando
    @GiubileiFernando Před 4 lety +65

    It seems like you don't have a consistent reasoning for how you place the characters. I see 3 considerations:
    1 - how much power they have
    2 - what they accomplish
    3 - number of fights won
    The first 2 categories conflict with each other, because often weaker characters manage a win against a more powerful opponent, especially when talking about the protagonists vs the main bosses.

    • @michaelfireheart8300
      @michaelfireheart8300 Před 4 lety +40

      That's why he says it'll be inconsistent due to the canon of MK being inconsistent garbage.

    • @thetf8142
      @thetf8142 Před 4 lety +16

      Mk scaling should mainly look at position in power rather than who they fight and lose to.
      But why in the actual fuck is goro in a higher tier than KRONIKA and onaga

    • @TheKing-qz9wd
      @TheKing-qz9wd Před 4 lety +4

      Well, you could make seperate lists to describe how things go each way. However certain things don't change after a certain point.

    • @devinp.2934
      @devinp.2934 Před 4 lety +1

      @@michaelfireheart8300 Sadly, watching this video hurts because of that very reason.

  • @pious83
    @pious83 Před 4 lety +29

    *Rain:* _I'm a prince_
    *Kotal Khan:* _Yeah, whatever you say, Vegeta_
    Lol Pure gold!

  • @jackdaone6469
    @jackdaone6469 Před 4 lety +10

    Yeah, in the Netherrealm era, basically all villains go into the Jobber tier and all heroes go into the Champion tier with no middle ground.

    • @chadpeterson5698
      @chadpeterson5698 Před 4 lety +2

      Actually Shang Tsung and Shao Kahn are more powerful than all of the other villains and most of the heroes

    • @jackdaone6469
      @jackdaone6469 Před 4 lety +2

      Shao Khan lost to fucking Kitana.

    • @shawziiz5031
      @shawziiz5031 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jackdaone6469 Fighting game power scaling does mess up actually. The Shao Kahn lost to Kitana is like the equivalent of Urien lost to Chun-Li in SF3 and Ancient Ogre lost to Paul in Tekken3. Is like how the hell this mid tier character can defeat the boss tier character??? I thought plot armor only for main protagonist

  • @thetruej7872
    @thetruej7872 Před 4 lety +94

    I kinda wished some of the 3D Era characters like Darrius had better writing. Some do have the potential to be cool and have a good story.

    • @nickthamayne627
      @nickthamayne627 Před 4 lety +13

      Ik that’s why netherreal needs to do something with those characters instead of killing them of.Its going to show the potential these characters have instead of the 3d era being completely trash which is not true,I liked the era

    • @greg_tre4rockstar
      @greg_tre4rockstar Před 4 lety +11

      Nickyamayne 205. You know what would be cool. If Neatherealm made a fighting game strictly revolved around all the characters and bosses that debut in the 3D era you know to give them something to do. So therefore we won’t be complaining anymore by the lack of 3D era characters we get in the new games. And some none 3D era characters like Raiden and Lui Kang can make small cameos now and then but they don’t play a major part in it.

    • @nickthamayne627
      @nickthamayne627 Před 4 lety +2

      The Grin Reaper true but they should change stuff like his weapons and what he does bc starting riots in mk is not important or interesting,they can do sum with him atleast tho u see what I mean.

    • @nickthamayne627
      @nickthamayne627 Před 4 lety +1

      Greg Potter even tho it’s probably not going to happen it would be kinda cool imo but not as part of the main story u know.Thats just my own opinion tho

    • @greg_tre4rockstar
      @greg_tre4rockstar Před 4 lety +1

      Nickyamayne 205 oh yeah definitely not the main story but you know just a little side game dats not canon to the main story but still canon if you get what I’m saying bc I feel like it doesn’t make since what I’m saying

  • @labster32
    @labster32 Před 4 lety +33

    Somehow I misread the title as : "Kano" Tier List as in comparing Kano to other games.....

  • @slumbertrap6506
    @slumbertrap6506 Před 4 lety +111

    im low key triggered that you put Onaga and Blaze below Goro.

    • @unproax
      @unproax Před 4 lety +37

      Ikr ? Onaga won against Raiden, Quan Chi and Shang Tsung at the same time just by walking

    • @mexicoduck8109
      @mexicoduck8109 Před 4 lety +4

      I agree but I think that onaga is below shao Kahn in the mk9 start sequence it is shown that after onaga dragged shao Kahn away in the Armageddon movie he defeated onaga killed blaze and beat everyone. So he should be stronger than onaga. However there things kinda contradict because shao Kahn had to scheme and betray onaga to rule but I would just go with the newer version that shao Kahn beats onaga in a 1v1

    • @mrlowkey4187
      @mrlowkey4187 Před 3 lety +1

      Mexico Duck Shao Khan lost to Kitana.

    • @mexicoduck8109
      @mexicoduck8109 Před 3 lety +1

      @@mrlowkey4187 I don't count aftermath in there are plotholes that are unexplainable like why sindel was made a revenant even though after he was healed by the soul chamber he said:"I'd kill Quan chi for all the time he took from us." So he knew it all and still made her a revenant? How does he lose to kitana in mk9 she got escorted by 2 no name Tarkatan that held her arms into that tower where she was chained up. If she's strong enough to kill shao then how the f did she get escorted by 2 no name tarkatans? How does Liu lose to shao Kahn when kitana beat him?(even though kitana beating him is bullshitty enough). He would have beaten him twice in mk9 but raiden prevented it from happening a second time. Aftermath is filled with holes. I'm not relying on it unless you disproved my arguments.

    • @Eduardesuper
      @Eduardesuper Před 3 lety

      Kitana didn’t beat him in Aftermath, she beat him in the story.

  • @nadillasakinah950
    @nadillasakinah950 Před 4 lety +60

    I have a feeling that Kotal is E tier in this list
    Is it bad that I want to see an MK character that’s OP to the point he/she breaks the 4th wall and calls out on certain plot holes in the story mode?

  • @marcchgirl26
    @marcchgirl26 Před 4 lety +44

    Kitana also beat Shang Tsung in 9 and Shao Khan in 11 so she is definitely high defender. Her revenant losses shouldn't count because revenant are usually weaker than their alive counterparts

    • @chadpeterson5698
      @chadpeterson5698 Před 4 lety +10

      Well Shang Tsung was most likely toying with her after all he didn't seem shocked and he didn't even seem worried so he was most likely faking it after all he is a good actor after all he played almost everyone in Aftermath so yeah. Also Kitana was also restrained by 2 no name tarkatans so yeah Shang Tsung was definitely faking being defeated.

    • @marcchgirl26
      @marcchgirl26 Před 4 lety +7

      @@chadpeterson5698 Of course he wasn't worried. Because she was gonna turn Shang in to Shao Khan after defeating him instead of straight up killing him. Why would he be worried when him and Shao Khan are on the same page? Shang Tsung wasn't in danger of feeling Shao Khan's wrath. Also that is just her being restrained Kitana could and would destroy those two tarkartans if it was beneficial to her. Because if she did kill them, she would then have to face both Shao Khan and Shang Tsung 2 to 1. So for her sake it would be easier to comply and go along with your captors.
      Also let's not forget that she defeated both Johnny & Smoke at the same time. So your arguement isn't really valid to hold against her.

    • @Gamer-ml9tn
      @Gamer-ml9tn Před 4 lety +2

      Dreads'n'Roses how come she lost to sindel with Shang Tsung’s power and kitanna should have lost that fight

    • @marcchgirl26
      @marcchgirl26 Před 4 lety +6

      @@Gamer-ml9tn Duuuuuh Sindel is already strong. And the fact that she had Shang Tsung's souls doubled her power. At that point Sindel took out everyone effortlessly. Sindel with Shang Tsung's souls was unstoppable and only killed due to sacrifice. Let's not act like Shang Tsung is VERY VERY powerful without the help of Kronika's crown in this timeline. Sure he is strong on his own but he was kinda nerfed this timeline compared to the one of old. Even then and now Shang Tsung relied mostly on trickery rather than brute strength.

    • @mexicoduck8109
      @mexicoduck8109 Před 4 lety

      @@marcchgirl26 Yeah but instead of killing them later she gets in grave danger. All they did was hold her arms if she is so bonkers that shouldn't have happened

  • @illium434
    @illium434 Před 4 lety +15

    Scorpion was also the Champion of The Elder Gods. So technically, he should be in champion tier.

    • @mexicoduck8109
      @mexicoduck8109 Před 4 lety +1

      He wasn't in mk9 because all the shit ended with shao Kahn getting killed by raiden with elder fields buff. So already in mk9 not even talking about mkx and mk11 that option was taken away.

  • @shinkenger2011
    @shinkenger2011 Před 4 lety +4

    I love how Revenant Smoke and Revenant Stryker are just like lookin at each other like “Dude, we better than this”

  • @babaganoosh2075
    @babaganoosh2075 Před 4 lety +10

    Now a smash or pass tier list lmao

  • @The_Renegade07
    @The_Renegade07 Před 3 lety +2

    Y'all remember when Cyber Subzzy beat both Goro AND Kintaro at the SAME TIME in MK9? They double teamed Kuai and he knocked them out like they were nothing.

  • @Eficiente_VSB
    @Eficiente_VSB Před 4 lety +14

    25:38 A tier list based of intellect would also be very interesting. Would anyone beat Shang there?
    Strength wise lossing doesn't really contradict other (reliable) portrays of a character's power, but the tier is good. Also it would have been fitting to rank the One Being too.

    • @thetf8142
      @thetf8142 Před 4 lety +2

      This tier list is shit if it’s about power.

    • @Eficiente_VSB
      @Eficiente_VSB Před 4 lety +2

      @@thetf8142 I mean, yes, but it's fine and good from a casual point of view. It would be unwise to overwhelm the guy with a fully accurate analysis.

    • @MarkEstratocaster
      @MarkEstratocaster Před 2 lety

      Not Fujin, that's for sure...

  • @FookMi69
    @FookMi69 Před 4 lety +13

    *TheFightersDen:* Ah yes, our battle will be legendary!

  • @unknowncalibur5242
    @unknowncalibur5242 Před rokem +2

    I literally can't even begin to wrap my head around the idea of Onaga being below 2 of the people he 3v1'ed and below the person who lost a 2v1 to 2 of the people he 3v1'ed

  • @romankalaj6224
    @romankalaj6224 Před 4 lety +1

    Powerscailing videos for MK are honestly funny to watch but I'm glad you made this

  • @mr.k418
    @mr.k418 Před 4 lety +6

    Given how much thought you put into how characters will do in fights, I’d love to see your own rewrite of the Netherrealm era. I don’t know much about Mortal Kombat before that, but it sounds like there’s a lot of wasted potential.

  • @bradfordward
    @bradfordward Před 4 lety +4

    I feel like Jacqui maybe should have been defender tier, as she did beat Noob Saibot depending on who you choose for that fight, and she does also beat Cetrion, even if only because of the crown.

  • @SkyGenz
    @SkyGenz Před 4 lety +8

    A Tekken version or a Street Fighter version would be really cool

  • @sarika3689
    @sarika3689 Před 4 lety +2

    Thanks for making this. I've been trying to make a DnD MK campaign and I don't really know where to put all the characters in terms of power level.

  • @hunter710
    @hunter710 Před 4 lety +3

    Mavado is hero tier at least. He defeated Kenshi, Kabal, Sonya, Jax and Kano in Deadly Alliance and took out Erron Black without even trying in the MKX comic. Only lost to Kabal, Taven and Cassie and Jacqui.

  • @drstephenstrange897
    @drstephenstrange897 Před 4 lety

    I really like these kind of videos Snake...they're really interesting.

  • @mkgirl19
    @mkgirl19 Před 4 lety +6

    I like the list as is, but I do think it would've been easier to make a tier list for the old timeline and new timeline separately, just because of how hard certain characters get nerfed or buffed in-universe in the NRS era

  • @CyriuX7
    @CyriuX7 Před 4 lety +3

    *Looks at Reptile*
    'Look how they massacred my boy.'

  • @greg_tre4rockstar
    @greg_tre4rockstar Před 4 lety +16

    I thought you was gonna say Baraka as the first Jobber tier character🤣🤣

  • @pelicanking9596
    @pelicanking9596 Před 4 lety +4

    Imagine if they made Mk games from the perspective of the Villians that way Kano can actually be a badass

  • @alesales9978
    @alesales9978 Před 4 lety +4

    I fully agree with the whole list. It was the fairest list I have ever seen. However, I would only upload a tier for Sonya Blade. Sonya beat Quan Chi, Sub-Zero, Geras, Jade and Kitana at the same time, Scorpion and etc. And it was always said that she was a very strong and powerful warrior.

    • @paxtonstewart8042
      @paxtonstewart8042 Před 3 lety +1

      “It was the fairest list I have ever seen” *Snake proceeds to put Goro over Onaga, Shao Kahn, two elder gods, and a god damned titan who can control TIME*

    • @novaseer
      @novaseer Před 11 měsíci

      @@paxtonstewart8042 because a lot of those characters you mentioned purely job in story material

    • @paxtonstewart8042
      @paxtonstewart8042 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@novaseer Goro in the games has jobbed more than any of the guys I mentioned before.

  • @AgentownshipRebelion
    @AgentownshipRebelion Před 4 lety +1

    Nice!. Would love to see you do this for Street Fighter.

  • @jesterfromthecave6691
    @jesterfromthecave6691 Před 4 lety +5

    I honestly want to see more of Taven and Rain. I know tavens story was kind of a one time thing but still. I also know they kind of did something with Taven and Dagon in the MKX comics and the Takeda/Kenshi endings in mkx

  • @21eienni
    @21eienni Před 4 lety +3

    I always respected Baraka. He mostly scared me before, but man, was he a tough guy. I mean, I discovered Mortal Kombat with Shaolin Monks and in this game he is annoying to fight! But he is a badass in his boss fight. He survives being impaled twice (with one sword through his head) and he has to be taken down by souls, which made him explode. That was awesome. But also what we see of him in the Armageddon intro, it's pretty awesome. Hell, if I remember correctly, he appears in MK4 after being sliced in half by Kung Lao but somehow survived. He did deserve his leader rank of the Tarkatans.
    But then, he was just disrespected! Sadly, like a lot of characters during the NetherRealm Era.

  • @sharktopusvonjr2374
    @sharktopusvonjr2374 Před 2 lety +1

    In a novel from the 90's, Shao Kahn was going to destroy two realms to end dualities, this puts him at outerversal.

  • @mellowminty
    @mellowminty Před 3 lety +1

    Ermac Representation
    remember how he ripped jax's arms off because he was annoyed that they woke him up?

  • @frickfrickfrickandalsofric7890

    Shao kahn won the original timeline in Armageddon, I would argue he is champion tier considering he beat Cassie and johnny, and Shang and Goro served him for hundreds of years.

  • @bigsquigems8063
    @bigsquigems8063 Před 4 lety

    Love your vids bruv

  • @alies-
    @alies- Před rokem +1

    I really like that more than half of jobber tier consists of my favorite characters. MK's writing and its plot armors are hilarious

  • @ReiTheRabbit
    @ReiTheRabbit Před 3 lety +3

    Sonya should be defender tier, she defeated a lot of revenants and saved them, helped kotal with the war against the Shokans, ect. Gen Blade was a force to be reckoned with

  • @Csumbi
    @Csumbi Před 4 lety +6

    all this tier list shows me is the incompetence with what NRS handled the lore of this franchise.

  • @Ricki_47
    @Ricki_47 Před 4 lety +6

    I felt like you should have ranked the characters by how strong you think they should be and not by wins in the netherrealm era

  • @thatboy_flamez
    @thatboy_flamez Před 3 lety +2

    My crippling depression stems from the fact that Rain is always a jobber

  • @21eienni
    @21eienni Před 4 lety +1

    17:50 Thin Bo'Rai Cho? That would be something awesome to see. Reminds me of Slim Bob from Tekken.

  • @LethalPlayers
    @LethalPlayers Před 4 lety +3

    Started twitching when you put Kung Lao in hero tier.

  • @ShowaGojira92
    @ShowaGojira92 Před 4 lety +1

    Nice to see someone actually respect Goro! Still say you should do a wasted Plotential video on him. I would argue that Shao Kahn should be champion tier and Shang Tsung should be Sub-boss tier at best. Raiden and Shang Tsung have only ever beaten him with a power up or with help.

  • @JoshMC2000
    @JoshMC2000 Před 4 lety +1

    Erron put in Jober tear.
    Me being a fan of wild west stuff i instantly had flashback to that subzero line. "such wasted potential"

  • @xyrus7366
    @xyrus7366 Před 4 lety +3

    I'd throw Sonya into Defender tier but only because she beat quan chi.

    • @oldmanwaterfall
      @oldmanwaterfall Před 4 lety +1

      That particular fight wasn't all that high profile. At that point all Quan Chi did was job

    • @schemar17
      @schemar17 Před 4 lety

      Sonya died to Quan chi in the 3D era lol

    • @4thswagkage
      @4thswagkage Před 4 lety +3

      Sonya won because the plot demanded it
      Plus MkX Quan Chi is like super old and got old man bones. Sooooooo Sonya beats him in physical strength there :p

    • @thetf8142
      @thetf8142 Před 4 lety +1

      I like how y’all talk about that but ignore KRONIKA and onaga not being in top tier lol...
      KRONIKA: literally kills everyone except liu Kang in the universe
      Onaga: beat Raiden, quan chi and Shang tsung at the same time. And only lost to a fighter that infused pretty much every fighter in himself
      And this is top tier
      Goro: lost a 2v1 against a cyber sub zero

    • @schemar17
      @schemar17 Před 4 lety +2

      @@thetf8142 Onaga should be high tier kronika is wack

  • @DinoGoodley
    @DinoGoodley Před 4 lety +4

    0:00 GENERAL KENOBI

  • @sladerulez7695
    @sladerulez7695 Před 4 lety +2

    It's kind of a shame that Kotal, who could destroy a Spanish ship with one attack, endure a direct hit from Shinnok's amulet, and could hold his own against some of the franchise's strongest is turned into a punching bag in MK11.

  • @egocentricblack3278
    @egocentricblack3278 Před 3 lety +1

    The cages should be in defender tier. Their power are specifically made to fight gods. They lose to regular motals often

  • @devinp.2934
    @devinp.2934 Před 4 lety +1

    The fact that Mortal Kombat's canon is so inconsistent makes this hurt to watch. Still, you did a good job ranking the fighters accordingly. I'd like to know what you think of the whole 'The Lost Onaga/Goro Saga' that was allegedly supposed to be the premise of the next tie in comic series. The MKX comic writer Shawn Kittelsen breaks down what it was going to entail and I was really disappointed that Netherrealm still doesn't understand what a 'Timeline' is.

  • @petertracycarroll
    @petertracycarroll Před 4 lety +2

    Rain is probably one of the best fighters in the mk universe also I fell like Kung Lao and Johnny cage are underrated in terms of power

  • @BionicleFactory
    @BionicleFactory Před 3 lety

    "... just in case you're listening and not watching." Much obliged; I was looking away from my computer at the time.

  • @j0doe1
    @j0doe1 Před 4 lety +8

    I think sub-boss should be hyphenated- he just said he wouldn't read it as I typed this.

    • @Janfon1
      @Janfon1 Před 4 lety +3

      For a guy who's spent years following a character named "Sub-zero" he sure has a problem with a word "Sub-boss".

    • @The4thSnake
      @The4thSnake  Před 4 lety +3

      I lied.

  • @flair541
    @flair541 Před 4 lety +2

    I argue that Kira is in n/a if such a category exists. She never fought Taven... Or really did anything of note. So by virtue of that, she's not a "jobber" but she also isn't average, she's a nothing... Also to Kobra's credit: he fought a demigod, he stood no chance.

  • @UchihaZenkai
    @UchihaZenkai Před 4 lety +3

    FerraTor is so forgettable that they didn't even make it onto the list

    • @jackdaone6469
      @jackdaone6469 Před 4 lety +1

      Doesn’t FerraTor lose all their fights, as well? That was always something I noted about MKX: Basically all of the new villains they introduced lost every fight they were in, like Erron and FerraTor.

  • @maxmercurythemm827
    @maxmercurythemm827 Před 3 lety

    We need a kanon tier list as 4th Snake would have it.

  • @dxproductions7352
    @dxproductions7352 Před 4 lety

    Honestly the Tekken tier list sound nice

  • @MG_Accelerant
    @MG_Accelerant Před 4 lety

    I love how every character has a proper icon but then there's just Kronika being thanosed

  • @ChamChamRealSmooth
    @ChamChamRealSmooth Před 3 lety +1

    Tanya may be in Jobber tier, but gameplay-wise, she was fucking broken in Deception. I still remember playing through Konquest mode and having to win that absurd fight as Shujinko in order to free Sindel. Fun tier list regardless.

  • @RC99_Productions
    @RC99_Productions Před 3 lety +1

    As a wrestling fan, I love your use of wrestling terminology like "jobber". If were ranking them using that terminology, the rankings would be:
    Legend Tier - MK Champions
    Main Event Tier - Final Bosses
    Glass Ceiling Tier - Shattering that glass ceiling through character progression and development
    Mid-Card Tier - Archetypal MK heroes/defenders
    Gatekeeper Tier - Characters that you know will be in the story no matter what but lose most fights
    Jobber To The Stars Tier - Average at best
    Jobber Tier - Speaks for itself really

  • @snakebasher3731
    @snakebasher3731 Před 4 lety +1

    Idk why but the way he goes yeah at 2:21 makes me laugh

  • @sefffisher5722
    @sefffisher5722 Před 4 lety +8

    They ducking ruined reptile 😔

  • @QueenNagaJacie
    @QueenNagaJacie Před 4 lety +3

    I was gonna say Scorpion would’ve beaten Sonic in chess and makes him go up to Sub-Boss Tier
    But we never know who won the Chess Match

  • @TheKing-qz9wd
    @TheKing-qz9wd Před 4 lety +8

    I agree with the conclusion about Rain. For a demi god, they wrote him like just a little piss stain.
    Also damn them some cruel words about Scorpion's Revenge.

    • @chadpeterson5698
      @chadpeterson5698 Před 4 lety +2

      He hates almost everything that has come out of the Mortal Kombat series nowadays.

    • @TheKing-qz9wd
      @TheKing-qz9wd Před 4 lety

      @@chadpeterson5698
      I think he was joking, kinda, about that movie. Far as I can tell, that was one of if not the best MK movie made to date.

  • @wolframvoneschenbach1174
    @wolframvoneschenbach1174 Před 4 lety +2

    The Cage family power is Shinnok's weakness so I don't see how them beating him is as impressive as it sbould be, it's like defeating Superman with the use of kryptonite and then claiming to be one of the most powerful people in the DC universe.

  • @meglovelyxoxoxo
    @meglovelyxoxoxo Před 4 lety +1

    I'd be super interested to see you rank the mk characters in terms of your opinions of them

  • @sarika3689
    @sarika3689 Před 4 lety +1

    I'd like this to be a series, yeah! Tekken, Soul Calibur, I'd even like an Injustice list as well.

  • @IFCLeon
    @IFCLeon Před 4 lety

    I subbed to you like 10 years ago so you're apart of that group that CZcams thinks I've outgrown and don't deserve to know what videos you release.

  • @majormoha8826
    @majormoha8826 Před 4 lety +2

    How the hell Sonya is that low she basicly defeated most of the guys in the upper teir
    She beaten kitana and Jade in the same time
    Cassie (amped with blood magic)
    almost killed DVorah in the same comic.
    Raiden in MK 9
    Quan chi ,sub zero , scorpion and Jax all at the same time
    Beaten geras and two kanos on the same time
    She is at least sub boss
    N.B Sonya actually did lost two battles in the entire franchise being to scorpion and johnny .

  • @DenniDownBad
    @DenniDownBad Před 4 lety +5

    Will Chameleon and Khameleon get some love in this video? EDIT: Damn, he said they average

  • @thequestion174
    @thequestion174 Před 3 lety

    In the old timeline there's a consistency, but in the new one it's hard to gauge they tried in aftermath though.

  • @mikeackworth1871
    @mikeackworth1871 Před 4 lety +1

    thethsnake I have 2 questions about this tier list first didnt shujinko need all the heroes strength in mk deception and 2nd in the mkx comics before cyrax defected didnt sektor get the chance to torture kuai liang
    sorry if these questions are dumb and btw keep up the good content

  • @bfeldz1023
    @bfeldz1023 Před 4 lety +1

    My boi Kano constantly catching hands and I hate it. NRS always doin me mate dirty.

  • @uranus007
    @uranus007 Před 3 lety +1

    I think Shao Khan is a Champion Tier. Despite him losing to Liu Kang 3 times, Kahn was able to beat Raiden, beat Edenia and many other realms which must mean that his power is noticeable.

  • @dams6829
    @dams6829 Před 4 lety +2

    Although you take individual fights in mkX comic Tremor anihiliated Mileena's army.

  • @wingedparagon4448
    @wingedparagon4448 Před 3 lety

    You get a like for the placing of Noob and Ermac. Those two are so strong and they squander them.

  • @gamersisland3253
    @gamersisland3253 Před 4 lety

    Hopefully you can read this, 4thSnake. I've been trying to find this tier list on the website but I can't find it. Could you please reply a link? Thank you if you can.

  • @shadowsansvii8715
    @shadowsansvii8715 Před 3 lety +1

    At least he was being honest about not reading the comments.

  • @CodyHeldreth
    @CodyHeldreth Před 4 lety

    Would like to see a tier list for how strong the characters SHOULD BE, based off backstory and abilities Ex. Ermac near the top because only Godlike characters or soul magic users could compete against psychic powers or Kabal because of his speed advantage. Rain should theoretically be at least around Fujin because he's a direct God descendent and he can control water AND lightning. I guess it'd be more like a "Power Potential" tier list.

  • @girijyanmurugathas3896
    @girijyanmurugathas3896 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey 4thSnake, can you do the same thing for Street Fighter characters please?

  • @backasswardstornado6961
    @backasswardstornado6961 Před 4 lety +5

    Bro please do this for Tekken bro fanfiction writers need this bro I can't write fight scenes Because everytime I'm scared I'll fuck up the tier list bro please

    • @MusicoftheDamned
      @MusicoftheDamned Před 4 lety +4

      While I wouldn't mind a _Tekken_ tier video, especially since I think it would be easier to be "accurate", I am unsure why you are so worried about writing for it. Outside of the truly supernatural stuff like Ogre and all of the Mishima devil gene melodrama, the majority of characters seem like they could believably win or lose to one another depending on the circumstances. Fights should be more than just the characters involved, and characters should be more than just their abilities. Surroundings and personalities, among other things, should matter in fights, at least if there isn't an utterly huge, insurmountable power gap between characters, and in _Tekken_ there generally isn't outside of the full-on supernatural stuff.
      The only real exceptions I can think of from the fully human fighters (from what I know) are Heihachi (R.I.P.), Hwaorang (skilled enough to subdue Devil Jin), and, regarding Devil gene shenanigans specifically, Jun and technically Asuka--maybe Paul and/or Nina too. Otherwise the hardest thing to place seems like it would be where the majority of characters place against two actual bears and two actual robots (and two basically cyborg people in Yoshimitsu and Bryan).

  • @AromaticSloppyWetInvitingHole

    It sucks that the villains who deserve to win are made to lose to the good guys always. It surprising in a game like MK that they are so hesitant to kill, murder, and have their good guys lose so often.

  • @solidussnake2425
    @solidussnake2425 Před 4 lety +17

    Can't wait for mk12 when we get another hyped up useless villain
    Mk os starting to have the dragon ball power scaling issue where the writers feel the need to make every boss stronger than the last

    • @tylerrichardson3034
      @tylerrichardson3034 Před 4 lety +2

      I'll give them this, if they are wiping the timeline and starting over than Kronika wasnt useless because she was the one who wiped it.

    • @solidussnake2425
      @solidussnake2425 Před 4 lety +2

      @@tylerrichardson3034
      I mean was she interesting or intimidating ? I'm just disappointed because they did braniac right in injustice 2

    • @chadpeterson5698
      @chadpeterson5698 Před 4 lety +6

      @@solidussnake2425 in my opinion she's the perfect example of wasted potential she could have been a whole lot more interesting and intimidating but a lack of creativity is what dragged down her character

    • @solidussnake2425
      @solidussnake2425 Před 4 lety +2

      @@chadpeterson5698
      She's even absent for 90% of the time . the real antagonist was Kano he had the biggest role in the story

    • @chadpeterson5698
      @chadpeterson5698 Před 4 lety +6

      @@solidussnake2425
      However the true villain of MK11 nowadays is Shang Tsung. Shao Kahn does get a bigger role in Aftermath but Shang Tsung was the main antagonist.

  • @mcknightmareb4u494
    @mcknightmareb4u494 Před 4 lety +4

    Even though I'm extremely happy my mates the Cages got in Champion tier, I don't think they belong there solely on beating Shinnok, I'm pretty sure they only won through their Elder Godkiller hax. Johnny's 2011 ending does hint that he used them to beat Shao Kahn though, so maybe I'm wrong.
    Shang Tsung for me hasn't earned Champion tier, partly because in 2011 he was done so dirty (Losing to Smoke with the help of Reptile) and in Aftermath using deception more so than strength to win. And he did always seem to have a disadvantage against Raiden and Shao Kahn, probably fleeing from his fight against the former in 2011 and being afraid of fighting the latter in a fair fight.
    Kotal I think he should be at least Sub-Boss tier, him becoming the new Kahn of Outworld and all. Plus, he was able to stand up to Shao Kahn and he tore off Goro's arms, with it being implied the only reason he didn't kill him was so that he could be humiliated by his kin.
    I'm not saying that he should be moved, but it is funny to think that Stryker has beaten both Ermac and Kintaro despite both of them being supposedly high tier.
    I'm a little hesitant to call Bi-Han Champion Tier. He does have some very impressive feats, but he also has some pretty embarassing losses, mostly in his time as Noob Saibot. He did defeat many impressive characters, with 3 of them being Gods, but he also lost to Kung Lao, Kabal, Nightwolf, Scorpion and Kuai Liang (Twice for the latter two) and he couldn't even kill his nemesis Hanzo, instead having the bastich D'Vorah do it. It's honestly the Sector problem, where "Quan Chi's perfection" has made Bi-Han worse.
    Hsu Hao is obviously Beyond Champion Level

    • @chadpeterson5698
      @chadpeterson5698 Před 4 lety +2

      Shang Tsung was in Champion tier because of everything he did in Aftermath and the fact that he was the final boss in 3 games.

    • @paxtonstewart8042
      @paxtonstewart8042 Před 4 lety

      Chad Peterson I would agree Shang Tsung with the crown is indeed Champion tier, but every other version is either lower boss tier or higher sub boss. Don’t get me wrong he is very strong. While he did need people like Quan Chi to help him take down higher tier characters like Raiden, Liu Kang, and Shao Kahn that does still show he is incredibly strong. I would still say though he isn’t champion tier without the crown.

  • @enkidu1623
    @enkidu1623 Před 4 lety

    id like to see a tekken list next