Is There Evidence for Manasseh and Ephraim in Egypt? - Dr. Doug Petrovich (Conf Lecture)
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In this video, archaeologist Doug Petrovich examines evidence for the presence of Joseph’s sons, Ephraim and Manessah in Egypt.
Dr. Doug Petrovich earned a PhD from the University of Toronto, with a major in Syro-Palestinian archaeology, a first minor in ancient Egyptian language, and a second minor in ancient Near Eastern religions. He formerly was the academic dean and a professor at Novosibirsk Biblical-Theological Seminary (Siberia, Russia), as well as at Shepherds Theological Seminary (Cary, North Carolina), having taught over 30 different courses. Dr. Petrovich’s research interests include biblical history and exegesis, Egyptology, and ancient Near Eastern history (including archaeology, epigraphy, chronology, and iconography). He teaches Ancient Egypt at Wilfrid Laurier University (Waterloo, Canada).
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The world's very first alphabet character, written in 1842 BC, a Hebrew character. I love it! Eat your heart out, Phoenicia!
I really think writing came about at the same time as mastering stone. There's no proof, other than the progress of the people
@@jamesjaudon8247 Not sure I understand. The very first writing that's been discovered (symbolic, not alphabetic) was Sumerian cuneiform on clay tablets.
@@KenJackson_US True that. I simply imply that to work stone you must have some unit of measurement and a way to communicate that with others. Symbolic or otherwise.
you are doing God's work Mr Petrovich. He is using you to reveal his truth and action in history to increase the faith of those who believe.
Great presentation! I am familiar with David Rohl's interpretation of Tel El Daba, but your take on it is refreshing because it shows how there is more than one way to interpret the evidence that still fits the Biblical narrative. We may never have enough evidence to totally nail down which is right, but the fact that there are multiple ways this could fit adds even more weight to the Biblical narrative. Nicely done!
Thank you, Michael. David Rohl forged the path. My work comes behind and both goes deeper and corrects many of his mistakes (made from innocence, of course).
@@IlluminingThePath what is your opinion of the revealed dates of the true sabbath days during the first 3 months of the Exodus that are undeniably laid out in the scriptures?
Deuteronomy chapter 5 tells us that on the 2nd set of tablets given to Moses (after he broke the 1st set), God wrote on the 4th commandment that the 7th day sabbath is a memorial of the day he brought the Israelite out of Egypt. That means God is telling us that the day he brought Israel out of Egypt, which was the 15th day of the 1st month during the Exodus, was a 7th day sabbath! Its literally written in the 4th commandment forever as a time stamp to a specific 7th day sabbath memorial. if the 15th of that month was a 7th day sabbath according to the creator, then the 22nd of that month and the 29th of that 1st month must have also been sabbaths.
Remember, the book of Enoch tells us that every single month either has 29 or 30 days in it.
Exodus chapter 16 tells us that Moses and the Israelite spoke with God on the 15th day on the 2nd month of the Exodus. The Israelite's complained that they wanted to eat meat. So God told Moses to tell the people, that at evening, he would send quail for meat, and the following day (which is the 16th day of the 2nd month) God would send manna. God said the manna would fall for 6 straight days, but on the 7th day it would not fall because this was to mark his sabbath. God said this would be a test to see if the Israelite's would obey his sabbath. Friends, if the 16th day of that month was the 1st day of the week, the first day the manna fell, then we can conclude that the day prior, the 15th, was a 7th day sabbath. Since the 15th was a sabbath, we can conclude that the 8th day was also a sabbath. Therefore the 22nd and 29th days of this 2nd month had to be 7th day sabbaths as well.
The Book of Jubilees chapter 1 tells us that on the 16th day of the 3rd month during the Exodus, God spoke to Moses and the Israelite's on mount Sinai. Jubilees tells us this day was THE FEAST OF WEEKS. Which means the feast of weeks took place on the 16th day of the 3rd lunar month during the Exodus (side note: who hear follows this instruction :).
Leviticus 23 tells us that the feast of weeks must take place on the day AFTER a 7th day sabbath. This means the 16th day of the 3rd month was the 1st day of the week. making the 15th day of the 3rd month during the Exodus a 7th day sabbath! Which means the 8th day of the 3rd month had to be a sabbath as well.
Friends, this now makes 3 straight months where the sabbath takes place on the 8th, 15th, 22nd, and 29th days of the 3 months recorded in scripture referring to the Exodus. And remember, God said this was all a big test to see if the Israelite's would obey this sabbath count.
Now for some unbiased simple math. If the last sabbath during the 1st month of the Exodus occurred on the 29th day (remember theres either 29 or 30 days in a Hebrew month per Enoch), and the next sabbath did not occur until the 8th day on the 2nd month, then how many days separated those two sabbaths? The answer depends on ho many days were in that 1st month. if there were 29 days, then 8 days separated the two sabbaths. if there was 30 days during the 1st month, then simple math tells us there were then 9 days that separated the two sabbaths!
The exact same scenario plays out in the following month, once again the sabbath ending on the 29th day of the 2nd month was NOT 7 days apart from the sabbath that fell on the 8th day of the 3rd month!
So the scriptural fact is that you can deny a luni-solar sabbath all you want, but the proof of scripture says that you are wrong. Scripture does not lie and our amazing father has given us a way to prove his true sabbath through the Torah, just as the Israelite's were taught to obey its count.
Side note: Leviticus 23 tells us the Feast of Weeks is a moedim. Psalm 104:19 tells us that the moedim are appointed by the MOON. So what does the feast of Weeks command tell us to do? it tells us to count 7 complete weeks! Weeks according to what? According to the moon! Here scripture is testifying that the only possible way to calculate his week i according to the moon!
Test everything my friends, the word of God reveals much!!!!
Funfact: The books of 2nd Baruch an 4 Ezra undeniably show proof of a luni-solar sabbath just like the books I referenced from the Torah do. If anyone is interested in that study just message me and ill provide the verses for your testing.
Hello everyone! In order to find all evidences cities must be destroyed to research through the whole lands. Of course this is not possible yet, But if evidences like these are found in relative" little " places, imagine all it could be found by digging through the whole place without limits and restrictions.
I love to see evidences like these, but I don't need more to Believe all The Biblical Truths, I am convinced.
I think we have enough evidence to say David Rohl is off his rocker though. I think he might be right about the first two Egyptian dark periods being overblown, but the third seems to keep everything perfectly aligned with the history of the region. For instance the conquest of Canaan is found in the Amarna letters and the correspondence is with Amenhotep III which is very time appropriate according to 1 Kings. There’s other reasons to disregard a lot of what David Rohl claims, it just doesn’t hold up on the whole. But he’s almost certainly correct that there’s about 300 extra years of time added to Egyptian history prior to the 12th dynasty of Egypt which puts the building of the pyramids in a realistic time frame as well
Nice? More than nice, Tremendous! It is exciting to Dr. Petrovich make the connections in the archaeological record that prove the truth and historical factuality of the Bible.
Thank you, John. Much appreciated.
Thank you, John. For more, see my academia.edu webpage, with downloadable journal articles and other resources. All the best!
The work Dr. Petrovich has done here is AMAZING. The evidence of the Israelite sojourn in Egypt has been in plain view of archaeologists for decades but was either rejected or completely unknown because of blatant bias against the veracity of scripture. It is truly stunning just how well the Egyptian record and the Biblical record fit perfectly together in this regard.
Ancient ones speaking out of the dust! The LORD GOD is so clever! Bless you Dr. Doug!
Many thanks, Andrew!! Yes, he is exceedingly clever, and he waited over 3,450 years to reveal all of these things to the world again, having kept them in secret for all of this time. He accomplished all of this for reasons that go far beyond my understanding.
GOOD EVENING YALL
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Thank you for this. I’ve had for a very long time a deep yearning to hear more of the record of Joseph in history.
My pleasure, Jordan. I'm glad that you found the video. Keep an eye out for my book next summer.
Thankful for Dr. Petrovich who ''puts God at the forefront.' Secular historians have failed us by allowing their biases to sully their work.
Thank you very much. I can never get enough verification of God's word.
You are welcome. Greg. My pleasure.
My pleasure, Greg.
This is great. Thank everyone who had a part in posting this.
You are welcome, C. Many thanks go to the Is Genesis History team, who have done a fantastic job.
Thank you for your wonderful content that edifies us every day, you have the best teachers. Greeting from Lima-Perú
Greetings to you, Renato, from the state of Texas in the U.S.A.
Thank you for sharing. Praise our LORD CHRIST JESUS!
I love your teachings.
I am very familiar with David Rohl who is an unbeliever, although a good archaeologist, However, your description of the statue of being that of Jacob makes sense. I don't need proof as I totally trust God's word, but it sure is great to see this history brought to life.
I'm sure you're familiar with the documentary David was in called Patterns of Evidence.
I respect David Rohl as it's much better having a good secular archaeologist than a believer who insists that Bible is history. He then has to tailor the archaeology into his belief system, that's not a good archaeologist.
If l had Not read the bible over and over l would be amazed at these Revelations about Jacob/lsrael and his sons of Joseph. The only proof l had before was By the Faith God Gives Us that draws Us to Jesus Christ. Thank you for Your dedication to the Truth of Gods Word.
Wow... Beautiful sir
Thank you for the great lecture. Cannot wait for your new book to come out and to get even more information. It is such an interesting topic and vitally needed in this day and age.
It is apparent throughout the bible that egypt is very important to our God
To me it seems that way
He sure did a lot in egypt
Very true, Debbie. It's funny: years ago I hated ancient Egypt. Mummies didn't impress me, and it all seemed so dark. Then I took a course in OT history that included a focus on Egypt. By the end of the course, I not only warmed up to Egypt, but I started to enjoy studying it. That launched me on my own study trail, and it ended with the first minor of my Ph.D. being Egyptology. I still am unimpressed with mummies, but the rest of the culture is fascinating to me. Yes, God interacted with Egypt a ton in ancient times, and if he did, why shouldn't I?
Egypt is fascinating. There have been giant discovered. One three meter man, one two meter tall woman. Not widely reported. Many know of the giant finger they found and someone was offered a ridiculous amount of money.
Luckily he reported the evidence of it first.
Thank you
Pretty compelling..
THANK YOU
YES!!!
Excellent evidence based examination!
Thank you, Nathaniel. This is the culmination of decades of learning, research, thought, study of Scripture, and formulation of evidence. God is the one who led me into all of this and opened up historical truth to my mind. I actually deserve zero credit.
@@IlluminingThePath I’ve watched other lectures and videos which say Imhotep was the biblical Joseph.
Very interesting presentation... This makes me so curious about this time in history.
Amen
I discover China History about GOD purpose reveals about the Great Flood and about Jesus
About ShangDi and ancient Writings.
As Well Names from ADAM to Yeshua meaning in Hebrew reveals GODs plan of Salvation.
#StayFilled
#12Tribes
God Bless
Hello, Danielle. I am glad to know of your interest in the topic of my research. If you are curious about the subject, please an eye out for my book. See my post in the comments.
@ Actually, Matthew, the Shang Dynasty begins over 250 years after Joseph completes his vizierial duties in Egypt. Perhaps you have followed someone who incorrectly said that Joseph's lifetime dates to sometime after 1600 BC, which position is refuted in my book.
Is there a link to that timeline you use at the beginning of the video? I can’t see it very well and would like to see how things line up.
This was awesome! Thanks for doing this Doug!
My pleasure, Revering. Thank you for expressing your appreciation.
The word Levantine actually comes from the Hebrew word Levanah לבנה, the white of the Crescent Moon. It has the same name in English, the Fertile Crescent shaped like the Crescent moon stretching from Southern Judea northward then eastward over Syria and Southern Turkey (Aram in ancient times). It then continues to curve south- eastward down the area between the Tigris and Euphrates River, all shaped like a Crescent..
Excellent presentation, Dr. Petrovitch! Since you mentioned David Rohl (in the talk and comments section), I'd like to know what you think of his (or The) New Chronology. It produces different Pharaohs but his book makes at least some sense of their experiences and Biblical events. Christian film producer Tim Mahoney makes at least some use of Rohl's views in his Patterns of Evidence movies. (Rohl is in some!) And what do you think of Mahoney's efforts, for that matter? Whether you can answer or not--thanks for all your doing.
Hello, Dale. To answer your question frankly, as one with training in Egyptology on a Ph.D. level (vs. Rohl, who only has a B.A. degree in Egyptology), I can state confidently that the "New Chronology" is one disaster after another. It is "pin the tail on the donkey" scholarship. It's the wrong results because of the wrong methodology. All of us in the field know and loathe its influence on the naive and untrained. Bryant Wood wrote a 10-page summary of problems with what Rohl messed up (in his 2015 book) JUST WITH BIBLICAL AI. Some day I hope to publish a book that refutes the entire paradigm. If you are wise, you will stay as far away from it as possible, at least until you gain training in the field.
I really thank you for answering me. I will not "gain training in the field" at my age. I only have a Master's from Cincinnati Christian U. (now defunct) and definitely not in Egyptology! But I find the work that you (and others) are now doing gratifying. In fact, I get goose bumps when I listen and watch. I will share with those I know. Thanks again.
My pleasure, Dale. Thank you for your kind words. Moreover, I am thrilled to hear that you will be sharing this with your friends and acquaintances. Warm wishes!
It would of been nice if you showed descriptions of the people of the land cultivating the crops. It's so nice to see those diagrams
I’m half Puerto Rican and so apparently descended from Ephraim so I’m really interested in this. I’m also a greek, Italian danish and Dutch.
With color and the ability to see. The houses described look far better than found in most subdivisions today. Plastered white with landscaping and courtyards . We'll fetch my shorts , they had it pretty good! Until.
This content is SO GOOD!!!!
Thank you, C! I appreciate your encouraging words.
Doug,
In a previous video the question was asked about the name given to Joseph mentioned in the Bible. Would it be possible that Sa Sobek was applied to Joseph after Jacob entered Egypt? If so would there be a a previous name that Sa Sobek used?
Crocodile god Sobek not alligator.
Its time people learn deep truths
He didnt tell the truth. The land Joseph was in was called Khemet not Egypt. Egypt is a Greek name, Greece didnt conquer that nation until 322 bc. Those people would literally have no idea what Egypt even was. 2 Hebrew IS IN THE AFROASIATIC LANGUAGE FAMILY and they were a AFRO ASIATIC PEOPLE.....AND THOSE ARE THE REAL FACTS
wow this is amazing. I love this !
Many thanks, Joshua. The encouragement is greatly appreciated.
That was very well done
Thank you, Ms.
Great presentation shared and revealed about History of Jacob family
But need some improvement about focusing camera😂😂😂😂😂unstable make a viewer dizzy🙈.. And hope focus the sceeen for image 🔎 and zoom in to be seen clearly even without speaker appearance and back to him again after every page already zoomed in and presented.
GOD made a way to sealed this from wise and Kings.. HE let his children get ready in these generations to Unlocked and understands with Great Wisdom from the LORD.
God bless
Thank you, Aleph. I am sorry about the camera issues. That was beyond my abilities to correct, or even notice at the time.
יופי של חומר והרצאה מצוינת, תודה. Very sensible weaving of the data, it will get smoother with time. One possibility is that many of the bible stories were passed down and written years later. Not hard to believe that some documented history has some archaeology to back it up, beautiful but not necessarily divine
Your comment the town of Avaris was in the perfect location for Israelites to take advantage of the trade routes. I take it they prospered because of the location. Interesting word play with avarice. I am not a language expert. Just an uneducated observation.
Yes, Tim, their location was absolutely crucial. It was the hub of traffic between Africa and Asia, as well as Africa and ancient Europe.
I see Jacob taking in Joseph's sons as a means of cementing the worship of the One True God in them. They also served as captive guests, kept to prevent Egyptians from attacking the foreigners. They certainly could help with Egyptian culture, but Jacob established his family's place among their neighbors by keeping them in his house.
Could the " m" after Hebeded , be a homage to Manasseh ?
Awesomeness
Thank you, Tee.
My GOD, My GOD, My GOD!! Glory to Yeshoua, thanks Dr.Doug, your work is amazing. Really amazing!! Thank you very much.
You are welcome, Audric. I appreciate your comments.
Jacob didn't want a repeat of Ishmael...👍
1 Chr 7:21 supports that 'sea people' were Philistine marauders. And that Ephraim's sons did remain in the delta region, and were wealthy.
I don't understand the reasoning with the statue. If it's either Jakob or Joseph. So, the type (stone?) of statue got only produced unter Pharaoh Amenemhat III and the quarry or type stopped being made after him? Because Jakob died under his rule, Joseph long after Amenemhat III, it has to be Jakob??
Dr. P., How does your timeline compare with Patterns of Evidence? Are you familiar with their archaeological research?
patternsofevidence.com/2020/09/25/conversation-with-dr-douglas-petrovich/
He was in it 2016 edition
There's no simple answer to that, One Way. Know this: When Tim Mahoney first began the series, he followed David Rohl like a guru. As time went along, and many of us walked Tim through the plethora of mistakes that comprise the "David Rohl dating disaster," he finally (recently!) parted company with David Rohl and his chronological disaster. So, my timeline differs greatly from Tim's earliest timeline (in the films), but now I think he has "come over from the dark side" (if you will). Am I familiar with their research? When Tim Mahoney heard about the thesis of my 1st book, that Hebrew is the language of the world's oldest alphabetic script, he changed the entire focus (and name) of that (2nd) film, in order to present these findings to the world. The title of this Patterns of Evidence film is, The Moses Controversy. I hope you have seen it, because it is a crucial, game-changing film (even if somewhat flawed).
@@IlluminingThePath God bless u sir may He spread His truth from u
@@IlluminingThePath , i loved both documentaries, my knowledge is few so i did not catch the "disaster", your comment now make me feel we jump from a series of assumptions to anothers. God bless you both.
Love this & thankyou. Question: isn't it more likely Jacob/Israel would have been buried with his walking cane rather than a 'axe'? Didn't hear ANY mention of Jacob's damaged hip.
You are welcome, and I'm glad to hear that you loved the presentation. Dirk, I think you misunderstood something. Jacob was buried in Canaan, not Egypt. I discuss the burial of Ephraim (Di-Sobekemhat) as having included a (type 1) narrow-bladed axe, a daggar, and so forth. This burial dates to the 2nd Israelite occupational phase at the site. Jacob's death marks the end of the first occupational phase. How could there be any mention of Jacob's hip when (1) he was buried in an unknown location in Canaan, and not in Egypt, and (2) the issue with his hip has nothing to do with what has been excavated at Avaris (=biblical Rameses)?
That was fun 😀
Thank you, Rubik. I'm glad that you enjoyed it. All the best.
@@IlluminingThePath - Blessings to you. I look forward to future installments of the history of the Israelites. Stay busy! We like what you produce.
It strengthens my faith to know there is a lot of real history behind the Bible. It was not so long ago when it was said there was no archeological evidence behind the Joseph story but you sure have turned that around.
May you produce fruit an hundredfold 🌴.
@@rubiks6 Thank you for your support and well wishes, Rubik. I am very appreciative. Yes, I will continue the work and, Lord willing, produce many useful resources in the future. I wish I could share my intentions for future publications, but instead I will try to let the publishers do the talking for me.
Dr. Petrovich, About the Israeli four-room houses; is there evidence of remodeling when Israel first begins to occupy Canaan and its already existing infrastructure? Did the invading Israelis, who inherited the Canaanite cities remodel their new (used) homes to reflect what you are suggesting was the building style of Jacob? If so that would be an important factor to support this theory. If the tripartite, four-room style doesn't appear in Israel until after the period of Judges then would the connection to the house in Avaris be anything more than coincidence? Fascinating lecture and diligent research. Thanks.
Marc, I devoted an entire section to this in one of the chapters in my book, with useful images. The oldest four-room house of which I am aware is from Stratum d/2 at Avaris, the first Asiatic occupational level. The Austrian team excavated other four-room houses in subsequent strata at Avaris. This same model was followed by the Israelites WHEN THEY BECAME SEDENTERY within Canaan. It's the exact same general plan with all of them. The only difference is the size of the rooms, the thickness of the walls, and the overall size of the buildings. And yes, all of this is VERY important, because the four-room-house variation of the tripartite building is known to be used only by Hebrews. No, the existence of Jacob's four-room house from Stratum d/2 is not coincidence, not when this model is continued in later strata at the same site. What is still missing is the identification of Jacob's four-room house at Bethel, before he moved the family to Egypt. This is why someone needs to excavate MBA IIA levels at Bethel.
I'd love to get your take on the way that Shekem is actually Manasseh's great grandson. Josh 17:2 doesn't spell it out, but Num 26:29-31 DOES, and Shekem is the son of Gilead, the grandson of Makir, the great-grandson of Manasseh. So to have a great grandson age from something like 10yrs to something like 18yrs old, average generation of 18yrs at the time, makes Gilead around 28, Makir around 46, and Manasseh around 64 to 72. This is totally plausible, and would further make sense why Manasseh (The Brother Of The Ruler Of Retjenu) is riding a donkey and not walking.
Psalm 80:8 "You uprooted a vine from Egypt;
You drove out the nations and transplanted it."
John 15:1-2--“I am the true vine, and My Father is the keeper of the vineyard. "
In order to uproot a vine,you of course, have to dig and get as much of the roots out of the ground that it is in. The Lord and his people were deeply rooted in Egypt. I would even say that The Lord was rooted in Egypt from the beginning of the Egyptian civilization and the people of Egypt were aware of The Lord because of Noah and Mizraim.
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The Amethyst stone symbolizes Crown Chakra the color purple which symbolizes royalty which also Amens stone what ever name what ever culture or time period people use YHWH tetragrammaton Ra The Word etc
Shlum Burch Yahusha
Doug I've been teaching the Picture Aluphbyt
Most know as Proto script do you have a y Conference place of teaching that I could attend at some time
In Biblical times the oldest son receives a double portion. Joseph was the eldest son of Rachel. Leah's eldest. Rubin. lost this right when he slept with his father's concubine.
Interesting. I think the statue is Joseph.
1. It was inside a tomb.
2. Multicolor tunic.
3. Jacob wasn’t buried in Egypt.
Their animals were buried near them. Is it possible that they had great affection for their animals, to have them buried with them?
Well the statue is inside a pyramid tomb at the site. I don’t know that it makes any sense that a statue of Jacob would be inside a pyramid? I think that’s Joseph’s tomb before the Exodus (when his bones were moved out of Egypt)
George, first of all, there are no pyramids in the Delta, including at Avaris. Second, the statue was broken into pieces, which were scattered and found in various locations. The consensus is that the original statue was placed inside of the massive estate building that I refer to as the Egyptianized Asiatic Residence, which is the most plausible option. There are lots of details and facts involved in all of this, which are in my completed (but unpublished) book. When you read about all of this, you will understand why it simply cannot be attributed to Joseph in any reasonable fashion. Moreover, Joseph was NOT buried at Avaris. All of this is in my book, as well. Hang tight. Hopefully it will be published and in print this year.
Which Pharaoh was during Joseph's time, & Moses?
I discuss all of this in depth in my new book that will be coming out soon. To give you the quick answers, the abundance pharaoh is Sesostris II. The famine pharaoh is Sesostris III. The pharaoh who chased Moses out of Egypt is Thutmose III. The exodus pharaoh is Amenhotep II.
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Where do these pharoahs fit into the timeline with Akenaten ?
Also, the fact that the new pharoah didn't know Joseph and his wonderful work in saving all of Egypt and the surrounding countries was testament to the fact that mankind has a short term memory problem that continues to this day.......
Please continue these videos. I will watch every one.
Kudos, and God bless your work.
States a name in ancient times was only given after an event. Uses this to link to people with names
God bless u Dr Petrovich,
I have been researching the origins of my people, the Pacific Islanders & part of that research has lead me here. I am currently trying to trace the path of the Great Navigator Māui & Captain Rātā, who were supposedly Egyptian. I have reason to believe that they were either of Manasseh or Ephraim descent (House of Joseph) that were scattered throughout the ends of the Earth as promised by the Lord, the Most High God of all Israel. All I need to do, is confirm these findings,, God willing. Any info you may have on this, would be much appreciated. In the Mighty name of Jesus Christ, our Lord & Redeeming Saviour we mightily pray,,
Amen, Amen & Amen...
The Legend of Māui & Rātā: Navigators from Egypt
Māui
As legends would have it, many centuries before the great migration to Aotearoa,, two brothers had decided to voyage from their homeland of Egypt. As far as stories go, the brothers [after circumnavigating more than half the globe] would find themselves upon the uninhabited Islands of Hawaii. One of the brothers [supposedly ashamed to return home] opted to stay & settle within the islands naming one in particular,, after himself. The brother, not being satisfied by the fish abound,, decided to find fish further abroad. By using nothing other than the blood from his nose as bait, cast his hook deep within the murky depth. Upon the realisation he was not landing a fish but instead fishing a land, reeled the great fish in naming it also after himself,, Te Ika ā Māui...
Rātā
The brother who did decide to return to his homeland, suffered a few complications of his own. Determined to return to his homeland, he decided to fashion himself a sea worthy vessel capable of offering,, safe passage. Upon selecting a tree of such capability, he began his works. At days end, he had fell & hewn a great tree,, where he than retired from all labour. The next day, to much amazement,, the tree had returned to it’s original position & once again standing upright. So, he immediately,, repeated the process & laboured with the passing of another day. When the third day dawned & again, the tree was upright & back to it’s original form. & again the brother repeated the process, but this time he decided to see,, who had undone all his work. To much surprise, the brother noticed all the Forrest birds, insects & wild life, labour to restore the tree to it’s former prestige. Upon hearing their incantations, the brother sprang from hiding & spake to the children of Tane Mahuta, so it is you,, who restore my tree. In which, the children of Tane Mahuta replied,, who hath given you authority to fell the Forrest God to the ground. When the brother had heard this, he was quite & overcome with shame. The offspring of Tane all called out aloud to him saying, return to the village,, for we shall make a canoe for you. & thus, it was so...
Apocrypha
Testament of Naphtali 2:1-18
1 For in the fortieth year of my life, I saw a vision on the Mount of Olives, on the east of Jerusalem, that the sun & the moon were standing still.
2 & behold Isaac, the father of my father, said to us; Run & lay hold of them, each one according to his strength; & to him that seizeth them will the sun & moon belong.
3 & we all of us ran together, & Levi laid hold of the sun, & Judah outstripped the others & seized the moon, & they were both of them lifted up with them.
4 & when Levi became as a sun, lo, a certain young man gave to him twelve branches of palm; & Judah was bright as the moon, & under their feet were twelve rays.
5 & the two, Levi & Judah, ran, & laid hold of them.
6 & lo, a bull upon the earth, with two great horns, & an eagle's wings upon its back; & we wished to seize him, but could not.
7 But Joseph came, & seized him, & ascended up with him on high.
8 & I saw, for I was there, & behold a holy writing appeared to us, saying: Assyrians, Medes, Persians, Chaldeans, Syrians, shall possess in captivity the twelve tribes of Israel.
9 & again, after seven days, I saw our father Jacob standing by the sea of Jamnia, & we were with him.
10 & behold, there came a ship sailing by, without sailors or pilot; & there was written upon the ship, The Ship of Jacob.
11 & our father said to us: Come, let us embark on our ship.
12 & when he had gone on board, there arose a vehement storm, & a mighty tempest of wind; & our father, who was holding the helm, departed from us.
13 & we, being tost with the tempest, were borne along over the sea; & the ship was filled with water, & was pounded by mighty waves, until it was broken up.
14 & Joseph fled away upon a little boat, & we were all divided upon nine planks, & Levi & Judah were together.
15 & we were all scattered unto the ends of the earth.
16 Then Levi, girt about with sackcloth, prayed for us all unto the Lord.
17 & when the storm ceased, the ship reached the land as it were in peace.
18 &, lo, our father came, & we all rejoiced with one accord.
@@Tera4m a year after your pos, there is another claim that the Philippines is the land and is where the garden of eden. A you tube channel, The God Culture has a number of biblical series.there is one series that mentions the travels and it's extremely detailed, some series are 24+ videos long. It doesn't talk about that specific legend but does show a lot of stories are erroneous interpretations.
@@elizabethjansen2684 i believe that these Polynesian,melanesian South east Asia is manasseh &ephraim because If you see there is ancient site in anatolia turkey gabekli tepe that similar with stand moai in eatern island.I mean these people scattered around the world and built civilization and become great builder &navigator and i believe this two offspring is the people that reach South american &north american land.God said the most civilization that will conquered the earth is from east from garden of eden.
Hi
I thought the EARLIEST dynasty was the 18th! And the EXODUS was in the LATER 15th dynasty!
So how come the EARLIER dynasty can be the 12th?
Shalom to us only in Christ Yeshua returning soon to reign over the world from Jerusalem forever.
Praying for you, for all of Israel, and for those who have been abducted. Praying protection on those who are actively fighting for Israel right now and praying for wisdom, insight and foresight for those who are in charge of defense.
1 Nephi 1
I, Nephi, having been born of goodly parents, therefore I was taught somewhat in all the learning of my father; and having seen many afflictions in the course of my days, nevertheless, having been highly favored of the Lord in all my days; yea, having had a great knowledge of the goodness and the mysteries of God, therefore I make a record of my proceedings in my days.
2 Yea, I make a record in the language of my father, which consists of the learning of the Jews and the language of the Egyptians.
Gen 49:22
Joseph is a fruitful bough, even a fruitful bough by a well; whose branches run over the wall:
1 Nephi 5
And it had come to pass that my father spake unto her, saying: I know that I am a visionary man; for if I had not seen the things of God in a vision I should not have known the goodness of God, but had tarried at Jerusalem, and had perished with my brethren.
5 But behold, I have obtained a land of promise, in the which things I do rejoice; yea, and I know that the Lord will deliver my sons out of the hands of Laban, and bring them down again unto us in the wilderness.
And it came to pass that my father, Lehi, also found upon the plates of brass a genealogy of his fathers; wherefore he knew that he was a descendant of Joseph; yea, even that Joseph who was the son of Jacob, who was sold into Egypt, and who was preserved by the hand of the Lord, that he might preserve his father, Jacob, and all his household from perishing with famine.
15 And they were also led out of captivity and out of the land of Egypt, by that same God who had preserved them.
He said: “Ephrahim and Manasse, the two eldest sons of Joseph “
Did Joseph have more than two sons?
Dr. Petrovich, You gave a fantastic presentation that laymen could understand. I have a question that is off topic. Has there been found at Avaris any signs or artifacts that support the Hebrews as Seafarers? I have a theory that the Hebrews became Seafarers while living at Avaris!
They lived in the protected Nile delta close to the Mediterranean where they could manage sea vessel commerce from all around the Mediterranean. I hope that you can offer insight on this!
Vincent, I wish I were able to give you what you want, but I simply cannot. There is no evidence whatsoever for the Israelites as seafarers while living at Avaris. They were quite sedentary, actually, apart from land-journeys. However, I can tell you the two commercial enterprises in which they were involved: turquoise mining and importing/selling wine. You can read all about this in my book when it comes out. See my own comment here. Undoubtedly after the Israelites moved into the Levant (conquest from 1406-1400 BC), they eventually shared their alphabet with the Canaanites and Phoenicians. It was the seafaring Phoenicians who took that alphabet and the acrophonic principle throughout the known world.
@@IlluminingThePath Dr. Petrovich, Thank you for your reply. I am anxious to read your new book. Please let me know when it is available.
You mentioned that Hebrews passed along the alphabet. I remember two good articles in BAR magazine written about the turquoise mines with the invented letters and later a comparison of the Hebrew letters with Phoenician alphabet.
Do you think that your mention of Ephraim altering hieroglyphics is connected to the development of the new alphabet?!
@@vincentklotz5849 I would use the verb "borrowing" or "adapting" rather than "altering," but yes, Ephraim and Manasseh are the originators of the alphabet, which I attempt to prove in my new book. Jacob's decision to take them away from Joseph and relocate them to Avaris (biblical Rameses) was one of the most important decisions in the history of the world. This changed everything, allowing two young men who were raised with the wealth and knowledge of Egypt to act as a bridge for their family members who had spent their entire lives in Canaan up until that point. This was a stroke of genius.
Typo in the title. It should be Manasseh, not Manessah. Loved the video nonetheless.
You are right, Zxymr. I will let the Is Genesis History? team know that. So glad you loved it!
@Douglas Petrovich Thanks, Dr. Petrovich! We'll get that fixed!
Any chance that dna is being done on any of the bodies found in the burial site?
No, and it will not happen, because if it were published and they were shown to be Hebrew, the Austrian archaeological team would be kicked out of Egypt.
@@IlluminingThePath wow! You are right.
@@IlluminingThePath
Isn't that sad.
The truth has to be glossed over or hid completely. The really funny thing is, that the modern day Egyptians bear little to no resemblance or share much DNA with the Ancient Egyptians. That much is readily apparent from the tomb paintings alone. The people occupying Egypt currently, have as much in common with ancient Egypt as Eskimos, yet they seem to claim the majesty and grandeur without question. I believe the original Egyptians are basically a defunct race of people that God removed from this world as punishment for their enslavement of his people and continuous idol worship amongst other things such as pride.
God reduced that country to a dusty non-productive third world country that is totally dependent on tourism for its very survival.
Tourism of objects and sites that have no association with the people claiming descendency......
How the mighty have fallen !! DNA done on gravesites throughout Egypt has born out this truth, although not much is said about it for political reasons.
How did the highly efficient and intelligent people of ancient Egypt become the sad inhabitants of that country, living in third world squalor and abject poverty, mainly illiterate?
God's judgement on Egypt.
That's how.
@@IlluminingThePath
Here is your mission if you chose to accept it......
Not much is written about or discussed pertaining to the subject I addressed above.....
At least I haven't been able to find much.
Wouldn't you consider writing a book discussing the fate of the true Egyptians and the permanent downfall of their once glorious and probably greatest civilisation the world has ever witnessed?
Through Joseph, God saved Egypt and yet allowed Egypt to be obliterated.
A powerful warning for us today, and one that I fear is imminent, sadly.
Well done...check out Wayne May on the Book of Mormon...
Could somebody help me understand this story about the two sons of Joseph at jacobs death bed.if Joseph had sons babies when brothers and father Jacobs eyes were opened,and Jacob lived 17 years in the land of Goshen ,that would make the boys say late teenagers say 18,19,20, years old, so why is it depicted as young boys at jacobs death bed.what the boys didn't age in 17 years? I find that strange depicted in some Christian circles.
Glad to help. Jamie. This is easily answered, as I deal with the topic in the book I just finished writing (and am now editing). Manasseh and Ephraim were born between 1884 and 1879 BC, making them 20-25 years of age at the death of Jacob in 1859 BC. The text never states or implies that they were young boys when their father took them to Jacob. Many of us simply have read something into the text that is not there. They probably were of full form, growth-wise. This is why they were ready to travel. Remember that in the ancient world, true adulthood was not considered to be reached at about 18, but rather at about 30. The boys probably bowed to their grandfather when he was extending his hands.
@@IlluminingThePath awesome thanks Doug, I thought that for years, and thought I might be wrong.christian bookstores show books of young children at jacobs deathbed. Thanks for the date calender scenario makes common sense cheers the text clearly states this and miffed why they use the child card scenario in this story analyse,also had discrepancy over difference between a Jew and a Hebrew Jacob was never a Jew he is a ' hebrew'.
Thanks for your channel and interest in this topic.correct me if im wrong.im an Australian and believe my country is living in the blessings of Joseph as well as u.s.a and British commonwealth and related countries.i live in Adelaide the 5th most liveable city in the world and Australia 2nd most livable country on planet behind norway.if you mix British culture with American culture with a hint of ethnic influence you got Australia Doug you should watch CZcams 'the Australian 4th brigade charge of the lighthouse at the battle of beersheba' producer kwiteryabitchin CZcams, also good narration a must watch.i believe the Israel(sheep) nations are forgetting their god and following heathen and pagan ways and are leading into Jacobs trouble.the way the world is now sort of proves this.blessings and cursings are on the modern Israel(sheep) western world countries.love the messianic Jews but they are only part of Israel, god bless!
The Bible says this Genesis 41:45
Then Pharaoh gave Joseph a new Egyptian name, Zaphenath-paneah. He also gave him a wife, whose name was Asenath. She was the daughter of Potiphera, the priest of On. So Joseph took charge of the entire land of Egypt. Can you explain the difference in the names you reference?
Andy, I explain this in greater detail in my upcoming book. For now, I will say that multiple names in greater antiquity was far from uncommon. Abraham had 2 Hebrew names. Sarah had 2 Hebrew names. Jacob had 2 Hebrew names. The Egyptian king had 5 Egyptian names. There is no problem whatsoever with Joseph's having more than 1 Egyptian name. In fact, he had a total of 4 Egyptian names, counting the one you mention from the Bible. You MUST remember that people of this time received their initial or later name due to some event or major circumstances that defined them in the eyes of the people around them. You simply have to take yourself out of the modern understanding of name-receiving to get all of this.
God is the King of the Gods also according to Psalm 82. Besides Christ is the "King of kings and Lord of lords". And according Deuteronomy 10, God is the "God of gods".
They became England and America now judging Jacob's prophesy of the future. Genesis 48 vs 1 to 22.
I thought you said "eleventeen" 🤣 I had to rewind
Reminds me of a Muppet Babies episode, Gonzo asks Scooter what time it is, he says "eleventy two oh seven"
Need a new camera man.
"Hebrew the World’s Oldest Alphabet" ... why does ancient Etruscan look eerily similar to Paleo Hebrew? On the Lemnos Stele, you can even see a character that looks JUST LIKE a tet czcams.com/video/Tdl6CRD8Jyc/video.html
❓ if there IS some kind of connection between Etruscan and paleo Hebrew, does that tell us anything about the "lost" tribes?
Several of their consonants clearly derive from proto-consonantal Hebrew (see my 2016 book, which is out of print now). But no, this has nothing to do with any lost tribe. The Phoenicians took the alphabetic (technically an abjad) and spread it throughout Europe and elsewhere in the ancient world.
Phoenician
@@IlluminingThePath the Phonecian alphabet was based on Egyptian hieroglyphs.
@@listenup2882 You know not what you say.
Thought provoking. Ephraim and Manasseh were not going to Egyptianize Israel. Jacob had to De-Egyptianize those two boys.
Actually, Dave, when Ephraim and Manasseh moved to Avaris, they thoroughly Egyptianized Jacob's homestead. This is made clear (i.e. proven) in my upcoming book.
@@IlluminingThePath But looking at the whole story of Joseph, his faithfulness and courage to stay loyal to his God, Jehovah, shows he would have taught his boys the TRUTH, no?
@@janyenyo Hello, Janine? I do not understand your question specifically. What is the truth you are suggesting that I am not saying Joseph would have taught his sons? On an unrelated note, by the way, what does the word "Jehovah" mean? Do you even know? I regularly tell my Hebrew students that it's always best to translate when possible, not transliterate. The English translation of the 3ms participle YHWH is He-who-is, The-One-Who-Goes-On-Existing. Take your pick. I hope this is of interest to you.
@@IlluminingThePath I like your clear cut explanation of the Tetragrammaton, Professor Petrovich
@@thelosangelesrockstar2294 Thank you, Star. Yes, at the end of the day, we need to know what the words and names mean, not how to pronounce them in a foreign language.
@ Douglas Petrovich I understand your devotion to a good cause to verify Bible History and Chronology , But honestly where are you coming up with these years such as your claim that 1876 BC as being the Year Jacob moved his entire family into Egypt ?
It was 1728 B.C. Jacob with his whole family entered Egypt.
It was 1712 B.C. When Jacob dies, within his 147th year.
It was 1657 B.C. When Joseph dies, age 110.
Onward moving forward in time....
c 1600 B.C. Egypt begins growth as 1st world
power Ex. 1:8
1593 B.C. Birth of Moses Ex. 2:2
1553 B.C. Moses offers himself as a deliverer;
flees to Midian Ex. 2:11, 14,
Ex 2:15
Acts 7:23
c 1514 B.C. Moses at the burning thornbush Ex. 3:2
1513 B.C. Passover; Egypt’s power shaken; Ex. 12:12;
Red Sea disaster; Israelites leave Ex 14:27
Egypt; end of 400-yr. period of Ex. 14:29, 30
affliction Gen. 15:13,
Ge 15:14 Giving of the Law at Mt. Sinai Ex. 19:3-8
End of the 430-year period Gal. 3:17; Ex. 12:40;
Moses compiles Genesis in wilderness John 5:46
1512 B.C. Tabernacle construction completed Ex. 40:17
Consecration of the Aaronic priesthood Lev. 8:34-36
Moses writes Exodus and Leviticus Lev. 27:34; Num. 1:1
c 1490 B.C. Moses writes the book of Job
1473 B.C. Moses completes Numbers in Moab Num. 35:1; Nu 36:13
Covenant of faithfulness in Moab Deut. 29:1
Moses writes Deuteronomy Deut. 1:1, 3
Moses dies on Nebo in Moab, age 120 Deut. 34:5, 7
Israel enters Canaan under Joshua Jos. 4:19
1467 B.C. End of Joshua’s war operations in Jos. 11:23;
Canaan Jos 14:7
You cannot possibly create a timeline from the Bible without a Computer Program designed specifically to do so. It requires downloading the entire Bible into multiple binary single files. Then using algorithms to find(numeric and word searches) dates months and times using many loops and multi-dimensional arrays storing both the month names, dates and to conditionally determine months and dates with matching converted Roman Calendar month names.
And then there is the math. And all of the data presented and graphed with their corresponding verse locations and book names, locations where they were written and who wrote them. I began programming in 1977 and continued doing so at the University Of New Mexico. The data and timelines I have seen online today are the most ridiculous and incorrect presentation and most follow archaeological data WHICH CANNOT BE VERIFIED FULLY and of Pagan Tablets and statutes which are based on Pagan Gods and their Kingly Rulers who clearly exaggerate both their accuracy and show favoritism for many fictitious accounts for things they had supposedly done while in power---
(Political Organised Despair).
If your going to claim Gods Word is Truth then do so using the Bible only. For it is mankind who cannot even direct his own steps as God states in the Bible likewise. Mankind especially Pagans through the ages have never been able to kept their word and have never reached perfection or truth and why a Computer has to un-bias the data to arrive at a more accurate Truth of the matter.
Thanks. And sorry I did not know who you were when you attacked my comment on another Video. HA. I am not to keen on being attacked for my lifelong dedication to Bible accuracy either. Keep on the Hunt and thanks again for your insight.
Robin, my book will come out in summer. The title is Origins of the Hebrews: New Evidence for Israelites in Egypt from Joseph to the Exodus. If you read it, and you are not simply locked into a view uncritically for life, you will know that I am not "coming up with anything" except for the kind of evidence that nobody ever dreamed of having. Hang in there until summer.
@@IlluminingThePath Ok,, However is it not easier to simply accept God's Word as it is? No Offense brother but that is a clear sign of lost faith. Lol
@@about2mount I'm afraid that this conversation needs to be over when you are making accusations of offenses that have no place in reality. All the best.
God gave all the correct timeline dates in the book of Jubilees, a book of the LAW, the Torah, written by Moses. Just because modern day jews and self proclaiming Christian's do not accept this book, it is scripture. More than 2,000 years ago BOTH the Jews and the Ethiopean christian church faithfully accepted this book as Torah. Nowhere in scripture does it tell us that their are only 5 books of torah. Ingact, 2nd Kings even reveals that the Israelites did away with the Torah at one point and it was later found in the temple by a priest, and noone even knew any of the books. So israel is famous for forgetting what the Torah originally was, nothing new under the sun. The book of Jubilees is an amazing book, and gives the real timeline years.
If you’re going to claim God’s Word is Truth, why do you need a computer? Use the Bible only. Isn’t that how this works?
Egypt translates to Mizraim. Noah's Grandson
Egypt is a transliteration of the Greek word, Aiguptos. The Hebrew word is Mizraim, and yes, he is Noah's grandson.
Ephraim and Manasseh are still alive today in their descendants fulfilling the "latter day" prophecies of Jacob pronounced from his deathbed upon the two young sons of Joseph. They have become great nations in north-west Europe and in North America.
They fulfilled the Biblical prophesies but not the Biblical people. The North Americans and North West Europe are descendants from Germanic Tribes a mixture of descendants of both Ham and Japheth
@@KennethGangte Not true. God kept the descendants of Israel. You can read that He kept a remnant for Himself in the Book of Kings. When Assyria deported the Israelite (non-Judahite) tribes, some of them migrated into what is now Western Europe in the 7th century BC and ended up fulfilling the blessings pronounced by Jacob and Moses.
Europe is khazaria japheth,genetic never lied,manasseh&ephraim is pacific islanders,South east Asia,east Asia
I certainly do appreciate your scholarship and the videos but don't necessarily agree with some of your conclusions on Manasseh & Ephraim.
You are suggesting Manasseh was disfavor because Jacob switch and gave Ephraim the birthright.
First, I would point out, there is no where in scripture that Abraham or Isaac pass on the birthright in this fashion. Why? Because a birthright was a given, it always went to the firstborn son. The only way that it could be changed was in a case like Ruben; even then if a man had more than one wife the next in line was the firstborn of wife number two.
I would also argue that word " before " never means favored or preferred as most Scholars have said. The Hebrew definitions is , Face or Forward. To illustrate. The Speaker of the House goes before the President to announce his presence; much like John the Baptist interduction of Jesus. This begs the question, who is more important, the speaker or the guest of honor?
This 48th chapter of Genesis has nothing to do with a birthright blessing. The statement by Jacob; I know it my son, I know it my son, was a response to Joseph’s concerns about Manasseh being the firstborn. The crossing of Jacob’s hands meant Ephraim would go first and become a company of nations and Manasseh would follow and become a People. If we were to take out the interruption by Joseph the narrative runs smoothly.
There is something else misleading. That is not recognizing the words Great and Greater are verbs not adjectives in this context in verse 19. Again the definitions in Hebrew are, to Grow, Grow-up, large, magnify and increase. The same as the word in verse 16, let them " Grow into a multitude." They both come from the same root.
Here is what's going on in this 48th chapter of Genesis.
Joseph hears his father is very sick and near death. He brings Manasseh & Ephraim to see their grandfather perhaps for the last time. He does what most families would do. He wasn't seeking a blessing but was surprised when his father calls Ephraim first then Manasseh and takes them as if their like his sons Ruben & Simon. (Now here is the key to understanding this chapter) Jacob reminds Joseph of what happen to them at Beth-el. It is where Rachel gives birth to Jacob second Benjamin then dies and is buried. This reminder was given because it had been some 60 years after event. Jacob was putting Joseph on notice what he was about to do, but, Joseph wasn't getting it untel after he was assured by his father, Manasseh was the firstborn. ( I know it, I know it) Joseph named his second son Ephraim after the place Rachel was buried and Jacob was honoring Joseph and his mother's second son by giving him a place that would change world history in two ways. First Ephraim descendants would become a company of nations who would dominate the world for almost 2 & 1/2 centuries. He would go before Manasseh to make it possible for Manasseh to inherit his birthright privilege. The crossing of Jacob's hands and setting Ephraim Before Manasseh had nothing to do with a birthright. It wasn't even in Jacob's mind. He was thinking back to where God had met him at Beth-el the second time and gave him three new promises. " A Nation, A Company of Nations, Kings shall come from his Loins. Jacob reverse the order and gives Judah Kingship after they are form into a kingdom. From the bottom up. Next came the company of nations. That was given to Ephraim; remember, Ephraim means, dubble fruitfull. Thirdly, A Nation. This Nation sprain our of Joseph who was separated from his brethren.
Going back to your assumption that this "unflavored person was or could have been Manasseh doesn't match up in my view because chapter 48 of Genesis isn't saying Manasseh was rejected and Ephraim got preeminence. I would say more then likely the person to whom you refer is, Ruben for he was the one Unfavored among Jacob sons.
Ahmose l.. They believe destroyed Jericho, He went all the way to Syria to the borders of turkey
I think it's worth saying that Ephraim and Manessah were the sons of Joseph. The twelve tribes of Israel were made up of the sons of Jacob (Israel) of which Joseph was one. But there is no "Tribe of Joseph". Joseph's sons (Ephraim and Manessah) shared 12th tribe status and were known as the half-tribes. So, just like the 12 Apostles included Paul (making 13), the 12 tribes were also made up of 13 physical tribes.
.Ephraim and Manasah are to be great end time nations . They will be brother nations . Ephraim gets to the birthright blessing . Manasah or Great Britain will be a Great nation. But Ephraim or America the younger nation will be greater a nation full of nations . Now does that description sound like Egypt ?
This video is about History (Ephraim & Manasah) not Prophecy (Ephraim & Manasah's descendants) , hope you understood.
@@warrior_of_the_most_high The prophesies are a part of history.
@ I think in Genesis Ch 48 finding the identity of which nation Ephraim and which nation represents Manasah Im not stating that America did more good for the world . I'm just looking at evidence for end time identity of Genesis Ch48.It describes the older brother (or nation) as a singular GREAT Nation . I.E GREAT Britain . The word Great nation is only used to describe Great Britain snd Great Britain is our older brother nation ..But the younger brother nation was to be more powerful .I think America is that younger nation and is an assembly of nations (In hebrew means nation full of nations) .That description places Ephraim as America .America still is the world's most powerful nation in comparison . We are the world's policeman ,the hammer of the whole world , Military that reaches the stars . But modern Ephraim is judged by God severely in the end of days .
The mistake you made Dr Doug Petrovich is that you said that the Israelites were Asiatic where's that in the scriptures? And two the picture of Joseph is whitewashed because on the walls of Egypt Joseph is depicted as a dark skin man but it's interesting how the "West" are so interested in the Egyptians who were black and when Jesus Christ was born THE MOST HIGH told Joseph to take his wife Mary and the baby Jesus into Egypt because King Herod wanted to kill him. So they went into Egypt and mixed among the people that looked like them so it would be impossible to detect them. Also Joseph married Pharaoh daughter an Egyptian woman that gave birth to Ephraim and Manasseh. This is misnomer of the Western education.
Please DON'T MIX PAGAN PARTY LIKE CHRISTMAS IS WITH HOLY ISSUES OF THE TORAH! THANKS
where do you see that in this video ?
@@TKO67 I thought the same... didnt hear or see that - did I miss something?
@@skinnyway
And Chris right but sometimes u hear something it bugs you so bad it has to come out no matter the form lol my chemo brain gets tangled often quite annoying at times
Hey Doug, your obnoxious critic is here again. Nice videos but you have a problem with placing Jacob and Joseph anywhere as late as the 10th and 12th Dynasty. Djoser name is given in Genesis from the 3rd Dynasty and you may be attempting to use the heavily flawed Ptolomaic Kings List for dating.
*Outside of the Ptolemaic Kings List Most Ramesside Kinglists name a king Nebka before him, but since there are still difficulties in connecting that name with contemporary Horus names, some Egyptologists question the received throne sequence for Djoser.*
I wonder if the difference is due to the difference between the ages of the fathers at the birth of their sons in Genesis 11 between the Greek Septuagint and the Masoretic text. If you accept the Masoretic text, you have to compress time elsewhere.
Exodus 1447 BC (18th Dynasty), taken from Genesis 10. Where did u get 1859 as that is Abraham’s era (born 1988 - 1813 BC). Abraham came into Canaan 1913 BC age 75 yes. The Hebrews were not in Egypt 430 years but according to Josephus, 215 years.
Bible says it was 430...
Galatians 3:17 (KJV) And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
Though not exactly 430 because the promise this verse is referring to was made to Abraham so from that moment to the exodus out of Egypt is 430 years, which I guess could end up being 215 years strictly in Egypt 🤷🏻♂️
Exodus 1445 BC ends the 12th and 13th dynasties. Exodus destroys the Egyptian army, Opens them up for Hykos 2nd intermediate period.
18th dynasty is more like king solomon, king David and saul time period.
Masada, the exodus was on 24 April 1446 BC. See my 2006 journal article on the exodus pharaoh. Jacob's family moved to Egypt in 1876 BC, and Jacob died in 1859 BC, without doubt. The Hebrews lived in Egypt for 430 years. Please read my 2019 peer-reviewed article on the precise length of the sojourn in Egypt, which is the most thorough study on the topic ever published. This article thoroughly refutes the faulty 215-year view. All the best!
@ Matthew, you mistakenly have chosen to follow the wrong guru. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but your dates are way off, my friend.
@@IlluminingThePath going off the book of Jubilees timeline, you are about 100 years off. I am not saying this in a negative way, your timeline is much more accurate compared to other peoples. The Jubilees copy found in the Dead Sea scrolls dated to around 300BC. I will trust that over any modern day persons educated guess. Especially when we understand that that book of Jubilees was just a copy of a MUCH older version that no longer survives, which means its history goes even farther back.
Lets hang colours on all people that are called by God in Christ Jesus. Does God call according too Race? l Doubt That the only Race Jesus is concerned about is the one to heavens gates which many will not find an easy path because narrow is the path and few there be that find lt.
Found myself constantly fact checking this guy! Oh My DAYS!..... THERE ARE TOO MANY FAKERS HERE ON THE WEB .... WHAT ARE Their motivations ....... Truly NO GOOD! TO MANY POINTS TO RAISE AGAINST THIS ONE!
So, Leroy, given that you obviously are an expert in the field, what specific 'errors' did your 'fact-checking' produce? What were your sources? What are the top 10 most important Egyptological sources that you've read related to (1) the lifetime of Joseph, and (2) the lifetime of Joseph? What are your credentials in the field? Who is the famine pharaoh, and why? Who is the exodus pharaoh, and why? Rather then flaming accusation with no actual facts or supporting argumentation, let's see some serious answers to these questions.
@@IlluminingThePath.. .... In short ..... this idea of being a biblical expert or even some form of researcher has been an argument which today after gaining qualifications way beyond the requirements find it a moot point or topic. as knowledge does not come from such sources only methodology. I have followed some of your work and along with other biblical researcher i have found that in truth you are not actually trying to prove the existence biblical truths in fact to explain away the historical tales without true understanding or faith . The people of the book , were of a different culture of today in fact to many it would shock them of which people i refer to. as well as to days people portraying the guise of the aforementioned original peoples being completely adverse and even opposite to the original people in culture and religion. hence often mis construing the history or even casting it to be mythological or simple word of mouth or conjecture or even cross-referencing the other known history of the time. even perverting the history to their own ends. Recently a researcher that i had also followed as a aficionado on the writers and composers of the bible "Greek/English lady DR" is a 100 percent atheist. and actually her goal is to disprove the bible as myth. there are other researchers hitting the truth and yet they become confused because of the shock regarding the origin of the race of the biblical people. As your research deleves deeper you will arrive at source material which would seem to be pseudo scriptures such as the accounts of Adam and eve, books of Enoch,book of jasher.... nag hamadi .... list goes on... as you mention we also have stellas ... Denoting Time periods... so there is actually no dismay at the time periods discussed in the bible as today scholars are placing many event at 4,000 years ago up-to today's present day .. and yet it is not what the book states .... is it clearly denotes two different periods of existence. We have historians such as ibn batuta and heroditous etc which clear define Egypt and Ethiopia and Asia and Helen... etc... how the people were , the story's regarding the building of the pyramids the canal systems (the dyke)
@@xspydazx I'm not sure what you accomplished here except talk yourself around in circles, Leroy. I expected that you would not be able to answer my questions, and sure enough, you were not. Cheers.
@@IlluminingThePath this is exactly why i did not have an outright discussion with you here. as it is not the forum .... perhaps read again! then maybe you will understand but obviously you did not read my words or even have understanding about what i wrote. as it is not an outright statement as it is a collection of arguments... perhaps ponder a while ! as it seems to misconstrue is your NORM! ; Hence my original statement being so simple to understand! THERE ARE TOO MANY FAKERS HERE ON THE WEB .... WHAT ARE Their motivations ......What are your motivations what are your real beliefs.... what are you hoping to achieve by this.... as when the truth becomes clear to you what will you do? Continue to sow this confusion to the unknowing ? ..... IT easy to disagree with people or even outright berate them .. but this was not the intention here... it was to make you also understand your part and how you have been contributing to the confusion misguiding people with your rhetoric. where as in reality the truth is not hidden or secret it is right in your face! only blocked to the original peoples of the book! of which you obviously are not (working against them) IF, You was working on the side of good then there would be no need of such a long winded video to give more confusion to the masses! in your attempts in become famous or even a recognized aficionado / apologist. without actually fulfilling the role of passing truth to the follower of the most high! even your videos are not on your personal channels! as it is a business for you ! and not truth that you are seeking!.... or you would have gone directly to the source peoples!....
Again i refer you to the book of JASHER! …. Stop rhetorizing genesis as it does NOT contain the full recorded history for the period as it WAS a part of the THINING of the genesis story's basically the beginnings of the sowing of confusion . ! .... (as i'm a real person i'm just commenting off my phone and I'm not going to give a you a paper on the topic .. on youtube.!... also never underestimate who you are talking to Education wise! it turns you into the fool!
Ephraim skin tone was red he was like what people call native Americans which were brought on the Ark to Puerto Rico after the great flood
proof or didn't happen
the island of puerto rico didn't exist immediately after noah's flood.the caribbean islands broke off from the Mexican peninsula during the Great Deluge and wouldn't have been habitable for some time after the great flood.also that island that would be named puerto rico by europeans would not have been inhabited by natives,taino or otherwise,until many millennia after Noah's time.
The Tainos spoke a form of Hebrew the Serphadic jews white Jewish people and loyal Templara and masons who were in contact with the tribe of Ephraim sorry to burst your bubble racist black people, of course there Amis blackness in Gods family thry make the other part of the puzzle when Afruicans were taken to The America's to PR the other islands
Is genesis history? No.
Yes it is and much more it's FACT tells how we came into being who made us and what this world is and everything about all creation and how we got to where we are . Who what where and when facts .
@@motorcyclemark2889 it did not even get the basics correct. Genesis is demonstrably fiction.
@@motorcyclemark2889 Adam and eves inbreed kids would create genetic monsters. Within a few generations the inbreeding leads to club foot hair lip anemia and worse... but Always it leads to infertility. Without fail. Higher organisms require a larger population of breeding members to avoid extinction. Simple demonstrable fact.
Noah’s kids have the same problem. A few hundred humans is an endangered species level. Two breeding humans simple could never continue humanity. It’s a demonstrably fictional story.
The talking snake should have given it away... the talking donkey too... talking animals are common in myth. Bugs bunny is not reality.
The list of science fails in the Bible is endless.
Water before stars? Oxygen is made in stars and released only in supernova... no water before the first stars lifecycle... the sun before the stars... god didn’t realize the sun was a star? Not the oldest star not the youngest. the sun is a middle aged star... on and on it fails.
Bronze Age myth. And demonstrably fictional. Genesis fails at every turn.
@@JohnDoe-zy6tm and, Sumerians mythology !
@@RayB1656 Sumerian, Ebla, Mari, Akkadian, Egyptian, Hittite, Ugarit and Greek. Each culture in turn had control of the area of the Hebrew people and left us written prebiblical mythos. These form the source of the later Hebrew culture myths.