What was the World Like Before the Flood? - Dr. Kurt Wise (Conf Lecture)
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- In this lecture, Dr. Kurt Wise provides an explanation for the worldwide distribution of Pre-Cambrian and Cambrian fossils, including Ediacaran, Dickinsonia, and the Cambrian explosion. If you like this lecture from the 2017 IGH Conference, you can get it and over 70 more at: isgenesishistory.com/conference/
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Dr. Wise earned his BA in geology from the University of Chicago, and his MA and PhD degrees in paleontology from Harvard University. He founded and directed the Center for Origins Research at Bryan College and taught biology there for 17 years. He then led the Center for Theology and Science at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary for 3 years, before founding and directing the Center for Creation Research and teaching biology at Truett McConnell University for the last 7 years. His fieldwork has included research in early Flood rocks in the Death Valley region, late Flood rocks in Wyoming, and post-Flood caves in Tennessee.
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Dr Kurt Wise is a wealth of knowledge and expertise. Also a very entertaining presenter who really enjoys his work. God bless his dedication to Truth.
I had some great teachers in my life with much enthusiasm for sharing their knowledge. Dr. Wise is off the hook!!! I could watch him teach anything with this level of excitement!!!
It would be great if he taught actual science. This is garbage.
Kent hovind is a blast to watch as well 😂😂❤
@@mattmc9812 I really enjoy Kent and his teachings.
Kurt Wise is so under appreciated in christian circles. A true treasure to the faith AND science.
He was one of the ones i knew the least about out of the RATE scientists, but after these videos i think he is the best lecturer out of the group.
@@marculatour6229 Voltaire is dead.
Kurt denies science
Many atheists and Christians think of the great flood as something similar to a heavy shower for 40 days and night. However as the KJV Bible indicate "on the same day all the fountains of the great deep broken up". The flood must have been such a cataclysmic event which changed the face of the Earth in a year in what many say happened in millions of years.
Werner Barnard atheists don’t think of the great flood as anything other than the story of Gilgamesh plagiarized by Moses in his attempt to civilize a mob of illiterate slaves. It’s an amazing piece of social engineering, not a documentary.
@tsimahei Dr John Hartnett deals with the starlight problem czcams.com/video/KW8VJOBF3o0/video.html
@tsimahei I am not sure I understand what you are claiming. It seems that you are claiming that because everything was close together at one point, light from the various objects was always hitting each other object, so light was always here and doesn't need a long time to get here because it was already here. If this is what you are saying, then it seems you do not understand how light behaves.
I am not sure how to respond without being condescending, especially since I think what you have misunderstood in your comment is not something you misunderstand in everyday life. For example, you can light up a room with a light bulb, but as soon as you turn it off, the the room gets dark again. This is because the light is getting absorbed by materials in the room, or being lost through windows. The light bulb needs to be constantly emitting light in order to light up the room, so it is always new light we are seeing in the room, not light that was already there even a second prior. Similarly, if you move the light source, different areas will become lit and other places will fall under shadows. This is because the new light is coming from a different location, and the light from the previous location has been absorbed or escaped the room.
Likewise, the light emitted by the big bang would have been absorbed or shot off into space. The light we see from distant stars is emitted from the location they existed at the time that light was emitted. If this location is measured to be 2.5 million light years away (roughly the distance to the Andromeda Galaxy), then it must have taken that light 2.5 million years to reach us here.
@tsimahei In your reply to me, you completely dropped any mention of your previous claim regarding disproving the Big Bang. Am I to assume you are dropping that claim?
@tsimaheiPlease clarify what you mean by this statement, "atheists still use both big bang and still claim it's impossible for starlight to have been present." In particular, if the Big Bang occurred, where is it impossible to have starlight?
Here is someone who really loves what he does!
Rare and precious. We are blessed to have these ministries in these times.
I mean- go look what the world is doing.
Jake
very interesting....love the enthusiasm....so hard for so much information to be translated in an hour.....pay no attention to the haters...they are going to hate anyway
And he loves bacteria
I love his enthusiasm!
@@ChristopherCudworth Neither is slandering and demonizing someone good theology.
@@ChristopherCudworth Amen
@@ChristopherCudworth Do you believe there was a world wide flood?
Note: I don't agree with this presentation myself.
This guy is a rock star!
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Yes 🙌 and we are chaotic supernatural GROUPIES 👀👀👀👀
He needs to rush to Islam. Time is short. Allah Akbar!
I thoroughly enjoyed this lecture.
I liked how Kurt tied everything together at the end and showed how we got these different layers and such. It makes quite a lot of sense that there was a relatively sudden or short catastrophic event (the flood) that took place. Awesome and fun lecture!
There was no flood
@@ozowen Either you didn’t watch the video you’re commenting on, or you’ve got a strong argument against the case it builds. If the latter, please elaborate.
@@WisdomThumbs
The obvious one. There was no global Noachian flood.
A fact that makes this conjecture mere fantasy
@@ozowen Ah, so it's just Rational Ignorance. Your presumptions led you to completely ignore any and all evidence, and no argument will be accepted.
@@WisdomThumbs
No, I am an ex creationist who knows and regularly updates himself.
I also know that creationist arguments about the flood are at best, a cherry picked selection of favourite facts, minus any and in fact all the actual evidence that renders the flood as impossible.
As I listen to the presentation, I try to imagine witnessing the flood as it started. The only word that comes to mind is “horrifying”.
Well don’t worry your head about it, because there is no evidence that it ever happened?
New studies have shown that those biblical fairy tales have some scientific basis to back it up. Huge floods occurred and the bewildered minds at the time came to the religious conclusions.
TheJonnyzeus - If you ignore the fact that virtually all fossils are found in sedimentary rock and virtually all sedimentary rock is laid down by water then you have a good point. You should also ignore mass grave deposits of fossils with marine and land animals all mixed together. Should probably also overlook layers that span multiple continents as well. I would also suggest that you ignore all out of place artifacts.
Box Elder.....a global flood? Really?
@@TheJonnyzeus It's pretty obvious....
Wow! I had a tough time tracking with this for the first part, but I'm glad I stuck with it! I love the story rocks tell! Thank you for sharing these videos!
It helps if you ever get to go look at all the different type of sediment rock out there- it's stunning, and very clearly rapid deposit.
Once you have the examples in your mind, having seen them- this video makes beautiful sense.
Jake
I've seen a similar situation to the exploded boulder phenomenon. In a quartz lens at the bottom of a cliff of a gray fine grained granite were some pyrope garnets approximately a quarter to a half inch in diameter that had shattered into approximately 1/16 inch pieces but the pieces of each individual garnet were within a single circle less than 3/4" in diameter.The lens was about ten feet long and 8" thick at its maximum.
He can hand wave and giggle with the best of the secular scientists. God's Creation is true an I know Kurt Wise has contributed a lot. Oh, it's so wonderful being a scientist, pinch me.
God's creation is true, and so is evolution. They are the same thing.
@@theTavis01 Were it so simple. Yet all the “best” examples of transition fossils (like “Lucy”) can be debated due to the amount of guesswork and presumptions that went into analyzing their fragments. And many species reoccur throughout different layers of the fossil record without any changes, sometimes with human footprints in the same layers as their prints. The Cambrian Explosion is hotly debated for a reason.
Adaption? Yes, God made this evident. Macro-evolutions? No clear evidence yet.
@@WisdomThumbs Lucy is hardly the "best" example of transitional forms in terms of general biological evolution, and has never been considered that. A fantastic example of transitional fossil forms is found in horses, and has been considered as such for well over 100 years and shows changes and diversification over time in the family equidae going back roughly 50-60 million years. In order to handwave away this evidence, young earth creationists came up with venomously dishonest excuses like "big horses float." To your point of some species persisting without change, the stasis of certain species is exactly what the science of evolution shows, found by actual professionals who were carefully studying the rigorously documented fossil record. Species rapidly emerge, then exist in relative stasis for long periods of time. It is in these rapid emergence events that there is a lack of transitional forms, which only proves that random mutations cannot account for the rapid emergence. It does not magically invalidate the basic fact that rapid emergence of novel species occurred and is well documented in the fossil record. This type of pattern is also exactly what we see in the evolution of human technology, because, as I said originally, evolution is creation over time. We know full well that the telephone evolved over time from a huge wooden box to a smartphone. There are well document transitional forms along the way like the rotary phone, the touchtone, the wireless phone. Looking in finer detail, we see that each step emerged rapidly without many inbetween forms. We don't see a million half flip half touch screen phones going from one to the other. We don't see a bunch of half rotary half touch tone phones. Such transitional forms would be useless. Such a phenomenon is not an argument against the broader evolution of phones, but rather shows that evolution is guided and not pure chance. Given that you believe in God, restricting yourself to considering evolution as a godless process is an irrational position to take. As soon as you view evolution as a process that God is intimately sovereign over, it makes perfect sense. Even the Gospel is evolution - going from the old man to the new man. Evolution is a long suffering process of constant renewal, constant creativity, and constant judgment. Evolution explains why our sin comes from our flesh, and why we are held in bondage by our fear of death. The time for reading Genesis at the level of a 6 year old is over. We are members of a hyper educated society communicating on a device that has extraordinary access to unprecedented amounts of scientific knowledge. Time to start acting like it.
@@smitty121981 The comparison of phones to organisms is a false equivalence. One is iterated upon by conscious decisions and precision tuning. The other is not, unless you want to argue that God is purposefully causing unviable mutations that result in stillborns and disabilities... And if you want to argue that, go for it, but that debate will incorporate theology and bible quotes.
While technology does epitomize the theory of evolution, applying that theory to organisms requires hand-waving and oversimplification (like Hegel's dialectic method, which ignored all historical ideas or complications that contradicted his theory).
So, horses and dogs.
Equines always remain equines. Some had less developed hooves, but they were still equines that could only produce equines. Similarly, dogs always remain in the canid family. Large horses as we know them came from breeding programs (not because "they float"). So did dogs. In this respect, they follow some of the theory of evolution as pertains to technology... But they never become something totally new. They just eventually lose the ability to interbreed with some branches of their cousins. Again, it's only micro-evolution, not macro.
You were right that "Lucy" is a terrible example of a transition specimen. However... She's still one of the best examples. What does that tell us? And can you name *specific* specimens that better serve the theory?
One could argue that God forcing the serpent to crawl on its belly in Genesis is a written example of rapid micro-devolution. Still not macro, though, unless you can establish that "The Serpent" became all the normal serpents we see today. But it's challenging to argue for that when the "dragon" translations are used, and collated with all the myths from disparate civilizations about plumed serpents, dragons, world snakes, lightning gods, etc.
*"The time for reading Genesis at the level of a 6 year old is over. We are members of a hyper educated society communicating on a device that has extraordinary access to unprecedented amounts of scientific knowledge. Time to start acting like it."*
This is Ad Hominem. It undermines your argument. Also, our "hyper educated" society is not even moderately educated. Only a fraction of our society has studied History, Etymology, Sciences, Philosophy, or even the works of our near ancestors that defined the society. Hegelian Dialectic is now the standard way of thought, despite its many flaws and detractors, but how many people do you know who've read Hegel's works? In fact, Common Core 3.0 kicked off a marked decline in education for the USA, especially in reading comprehension and math (the upper percentile of students are unaffected, but the lower percentiles suffer greatly). But even before that, the West's education has been in decline for over a hundred years.
Rational Ignorance rules the roost, friend. That socio-economic term is key to understanding modern society. Few university graduates in the West can build a decent house, much less a phone. Yet, why do so many *think* they understand phones when they can't even repair one?
Many of our most expert scientists still treat the Big Bang as gospel, though competing theories (mostly secular) have emerged that poke massive holes through the Big Bang. Eric J. Lerner comes to mind.
Consider... Researchers and doctors with Masters in Public Health degrees are currently divided. Dogma rules the "consensus," while the hundreds of thousands of experts who disagree now lament that "science is in a death spiral." Any discovery of danger or inefficacy in mRNA gene therapy is treated as heresy, even if it can be replicated by unrelated labs. Corruption is rampant in politics and the medical field, especially with the CDC and NIH, to the point that whistleblowers with medical and scientific expertise are demonized... Yet you can easily find Americans who believe the CDC and NIH are our saviors. Is this the mark of a hyper-educated society?
@@WisdomThumbs "One is iterated upon by conscious decisions and precision tuning." obviously this applies to both biological and technological evolution, as the Bible is extremely clear that God is intimately sovereign over creation. Your argument against this is a variation of the atheist whimper of "why would a good God do bad things" and it is a statement of ignorance. The knowledge of good and evil separates us from God, in part because we see God's evil and ask why would God do that. "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." Isaiah 45:7
Technological evolution is well studied and documented in the applied sciences, displaying every salient characteristic of biological evolution, including 1) macroevolution 2) microevolution 3) inheritance 4) diversification 5) modifications made subject to selection, and even 6) puntuated equilibrium. And researchers have found it works with conscious application as well. Evolution is creation. Maybe you're not a creator. I am a creator. Evolution is creation. There is no other way for it to happen. Creation is not just the end product, it is the process that forms the end product.
"Equines always remain equines" um...yeah.... exactly like the Bible tells us, kinds bring forth after their kind. You can go higher up the tree of life from horses and it always remains true without exception. A mammal will always bring forth another mammal and not a reptile. A vertebrate will always bring forth another vertebrate and not an insect. An animal will always bring forth another animal and not a plant. A eukaryote will always bring forth another eukaryote and not a bacteria. A living organism will always bring forth another living organism and not a rock. That's exactly how evolution works. It forms a tree through the diversification of kinds not by a "change in kind" as creationists argue in vain. This is perhaps best evidence in the dramatic evolution of a land mammal into a whale. Despite extreme body changes, a whale is and always will be a mammal. They come up to breathe air with lungs, they give live birth and nurse their young with milk, etc. They adapted heavily to live at sea, but they didn't just magically become a fish. That would be a change in kinds. Evolution never shows a change in kind, ever. It is not seen a single time in the fossil record even with countless scientists studying it for over 150 years. That is extraordinarily remarkable consistency for a paradigm that is allegedly entirely fabricated out of thin air!!
"What does that tell us?"[in regards to Lucy not being a good transitional form] it tells us exactly what I already affirmed to you, that at a species level, evolution occurs by the rapid emergence of new forms, which then become stable over time. There is often a lack of transitional forms in these rapid emergence events. However, transitional forms showing broad changes over time between larger taxonomic groups are ubiquitous in the fossil record and are excruciatingly well documented.
"One could argue that God forcing the serpent to crawl on its belly in Genesis is a written example of rapid micro-devolution." Um... well since we aren't six years old we know that this is talking about the devil and teaching us spiritual lessons and isn't a science textbook about snakes. But for the morbidly hyperliteral out there, yes in fact the fossil record proves that snakes evolved from lizards, and some snakes even have tiny leftover legs to this day. When you dismiss evolution, you dismiss this scientific confirmation of the inerrency of the Bible. If the chronology of transitions seen in the fossil record is "all made up" according to creationists, for the diabolical purpose of destroying the Bible, why wouldn't they invent it so that it happened the other way around and lizards were snakes that grew legs? That would "prove" the Bible wrong.
"This is Ad Hominem" No it was a rebuke. An ad hominem is an insult that is used in place of an actual argument. In stark contrast, I used mine as an exclamation point to my argument.
"Is this the mark of a hyper-educated society?" Your comment clearly demonstrates a high level of intelligence and education, with clear grammar, formal structure, and logic. I already intuited this from your first comment and you only further confirmed it. Therefor your rejection of evolution is made ever more so inexcusable. If you insist upon being interested in the science of evolution, you have no excuse for not seeing and proclaiming God's glory in it. Romans 1:20 "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:"
These scientific videos are awesome, thank you
Awesome yes
not science. not a bit.
@@ozowenit doesn't agree with evolution therefore it can't be science you mean
As always, an informative & fascinating lecture. I think Dr Wise could lecture on the physics of how paint dries…and he would actually make it interesting. Very thankful for ALL who have made these lectures and the documentaries possible.
I learned a new word: "Lithosome". Neat.
And the truth/word will set us FREE, HalleluYah, Amen. Thank you for sharing this wonderful truth, I praise the Father Yahuha El/Elohim for you and the work you do in bringing light to the truth of the Fathers word, HalleluYah, Amen.
but this isn't the truth...
Thank you. I have weird rock formations on my land in the South East. I can recognize earthquake evidence in rocks now. Signs of severe twisting in large rocks here.
This is excellent.
It's actually incredibly dishonest though
Easy to see God saying "well done" to this man when he gets to Heaven.
But he is not Muslim..Insh'Allah this can still happen, there is still time.
I would like to see you cover Devil's Tower in relation to the flood, pre flood world, could it be the remnants of a petrified tree of old?
@tsimahei Cool! What tribe/nation are you? I spent many years with the Taos Pueblo & Navajo years back! The Pueblo is amazing! 2000 yr old condominiums, still occupied. ☺️❤️☺️
@Daisy Fields hexagonal basalt....like the devils causeway in Ireland. Volcanic I'm afraid. Petrified wood does still show evidence of organic structure. Devils tower doesn't.
Foot. Mudfossil
Absolutely a tree...no question.
It is,,, in my uneducated opinion ,no
doubt about it.
Gen. 7:11 fountains of the deep broken up
Dr Wise I greatly appreciate you enthusiasm!
Thank you Dr. Wise , Excellent video . God bless .
Im an Excavating Contractor: Bible student, in excavation I find river gravel under lava shelfs, red cinders under 5 ft of dirt. I ponder much about my area of central Oregon
there is an excellent series on the geology of that area presented by I think Central Washington University they do have a YT channel.
Phenomenal presentation. I wish I was his student.
You are.
And thank you Professor Wise
Love his gestures, full body energy, so entertaining and very helpful!
Epic work, epic presentation for an epic event - Thank you Dr Wise
Love this guy, he got my attention talking about the 3 mile deep solidified mud flow in California with 1 mile long boulders. Learning lots about "catastrophic" of breaking up the deep of Noahs time.
Makes me think he really takes the verse seriously that tells us to always have a response in defense of Christainity.
But it's not a valid response. I'm a former atheist and crap like this made it very hard for me to come to faith. Evolution happened, and it will never go away. A much better response is to explain all the ways in which evolution reveals the glory of God (Romans 1:20)
@@theTavis01 "I have chosen things of the world to confound the wise."
When I posted this comment, fairly recently, I know, I was trying to find all the answers and to fully understand the ways of God. "No one seeks, no one understands."
I've moved on from that and I've accepted that there are certain things about our existence we dont know for sure. The dating methods could be flawed which they use to determine the age of things allegedly millions of years old. I simply dont know and neither do they with their imperfect works. I humble myself before our Father and acknowledge that it's not my job or anyone else's to figure out all the miniscule details of our existence and origins of it as we were not there and can not know. We can only know for sure the amount God has given us. I praise Him for His divine patience with me and longsuffering through my endeavors of pride.
@@paulbeahm3891 thank you for the thoughtful message. My point of contention with this video and messages like it is that there is far too much physical evidence which totally contradicts a single flood causing all of the rock strata and fossils. The Bible never tells us that this was the case, and science tells us that it is absolutely not the case. I agree that we should take a humble stance, and I think that includes respecting the authority of the scientific community on matters such as paleontology and geology just as we respect the authority of the Bible on matters such as God and Salvation. Both science and the Bible can be misinterpreted as we are fallible humans, but ultimately both science and the Bible contain the truth. When I look at the fossil record I see God's astounding creativity in all of the amazing diversity of life forms, I see God's decisive judgment in the selection of life forms, and I see God's long suffering patience with the amount of time it must have taken.
@@theTavis01 Amen brother, Gods glory is higher and wider than we can imagine. I've been getting ministered to by the Holy Spirit regarding submission to authority so I definetly agree. Im always wary, however, of what the scientific community teaches if it is coming from those who want to disprove God. At the end of the day I know they worship the world and the god of it whether they know that or not so I'm not as trusting of them. Who knows, some of them may intentionally worship the god of this world and aim to deceive.
I dont believe evolution disproves the Word of God and I dont deny fossils or anything like that, evidence is evidence, but I feel like the way its presented is specifically targeting the area of creationism.
@@paulbeahm3891 You are right to question those who speak about science, but that is just the same as how you should also question those who speak about the Bible. There's plenty of bad teaching on both sides of that because humans have agendas. But the science itself can be trusted, that's why the internet we are talking on works. The "Bible" of science is the peer reviewed literature so just as you should check all theological teachings against the Bible, you should check all scientific claims against the peer reviewed literature. This can be intimidating for a layman, but with some effort and practice it's actually not too bad. An easy way to access the peer reviewed literature is through google scholar. And not all scientists are atheists. I think it's something like 2/3 of Nobel Laureates identify as Christians. And look at Francis Collins, who is the director of the NIH and who lead the Human Genome Project - and he also started a Christian ministry called BioLogos which has this as their mission statement: "We embrace the historical Christian faith, upholding the authority and inspiration of the Bible. We affirm evolutionary creation, recognizing God as Creator of all life over billions of years."
31:25 and then the occasional *MONSTER BOULDER* 😂 love this guy and his teaching style
the guy’s a straight-up savage. 😂
I actually really enjoyed listening to this I'm hoping he has a lot more videos
Thank you, again, for these lessons! I would love to do research about the pre-flood period, so I'm now getting up to speed with your teachings.
Dude this antideluvian information is awsome. Not alot of people understand or are open to the evidence but this is some real stuff
What? You mean the “Biblical” 2000 years between the creation and the flood? According to the bible nothing much happened, and there is certainly nothing that supports that miserable account. Try looking at the world as a tiny speck of rock that can support some of its organisms on some of its “surface” at some of the time! No god, no nonsense, no creation, no revelation, just advanced self-aware organisms who have enough gumption to try and make sense of what they observe.
@@TheJonnyzeus The Bible isnt a detailed description of planet history.... My goodness, how thick of a book would it be to contain all the events that created the world in which you and I currently live in..... I think the Bible does a very good job explaining the creation of the universe and the inhabitants of it in just a few pages... How else would you suggest that a book, whose author's intentions where to explain the fall of mankind that resulted in the separation from the God that created man, and the opportunity of reconciliation to that creator..... The Bible isnt a geography study... Its an eternal damnation or salvation study.
@@mrniceguy3750 I think i;m going to be sick.
@@TheJonnyzeus that way of thinking is dangerous. Consider risk vs. reward. To believe such theories, which have no evidence (evolution), and to be wrong there is a lot to lose. To believe in creation, which has overwhelming evidence, and to be wrong, nothing to lose
Brilliant!!!
fascinating
Absolutely amazing!!!
Where are these lessons hosted? Would love to attend!
They were filmed at the 2017 IGH Conference. We didn't hold one in 2018, but will consider doing so in 2019. Sign up us at isgenesishistory.com to get updates.
That was funny! The story around 50:00 that’s great haha. I hope he gets a drone!
Very minor correction to one thing at 48:55 that pleistocene glaciers produced up 72 feet of glacial deposit under Chicago to show the basic limit. In Wayne county and Cayuga and Oswego counties of New York State, there are pure glacial deposit hills (drumlins) of up to 150 feet high vertically -and that's just what's visible above grade which itself is glacial deposit. But this in no way contradicts Dr Wise who compared the huge difference in deposit thickness is between glacial and diamictite deposits. I also want to point out a remarkable parallel between these vast avalanches of continents- perhaps even mountains- in these diamictite deposits and what is prophesied in Habbakuk 3 about similar events to take place at the Lord's coming that clearly shows mountains collapsing and the sea being churned by it. I STRONGLY urge people to read Habbakuk 3, verse 1 through 15. Amazing.
What does the term "pre-flood" mean?
Edit: watched the video and got it.
Yep the flood changed much
Everyone remember we are in
"THE FINAL JUDGEMENT" phase, we must decide which path we will stick with for eternity, there is no lukewarm!
Righteousness or evil?!!!
Which will you choose?!
@Kurtis Cochran but there many intercessors...🙏
Sex drugs and rock'n'roll
@@artureff3046 please reconsider, imagine a life with nothing but what you give your attention to now, imagine being stuck doing only those things for eternity, would it still be important as much than, if it's all you could ever really do...?!
Please choose and do so wisely...
Static Elect. The Bible teaches that the opposite to eternal life is death...not a life doing the same things without God. Jesus is making an end to sin, not propagating it forever and ever. Perish means perish (disintegrates, crumbles to nothing) as in John 3:16
@@revelation1790 I'm getting a lot of opposition from my fellow humans and so called "believers" alike, that the warnings I been posting is not truly valid because man will not be judge until this time or that time, but if one is truly a believer, I feel the message to truly do any real good, prepare for OUR TRUE SAVIOR, and to live righteous even onto even death, would more than acceptably be received...
There should be no opposition from true believers because they all would completely agree for all to live righteously and obtain and sustain always a close relationship with
*OUR RIGHTEOUS DIVINE MAJESTIES OF THE HIGHEST*
So what is your message you are sending out, exactly?!
Spectacular lecture. Lots of food for thought. The conditions necessary to produce exploded boulders is a terrifying thing to imagine. I will use this information when sharing with friends who protest certain creation points
ozowen take a bunch of water and sand and dirt and shake it up. It will sort itself into stable layers as things settle. After the flood waters calmed the same thing happened as all the debris settled out.
There was in an article being it was secular but mentioned that during the usual called Proterozoic time there were very strong currents in the oceans than that would loosen anything in those oceans and throw them off is the idea WHICH to me speaks of the great flood as in very strong movements of water in a catastrophe!
Genesis 1:7 KJ
And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament And it was so.
By the time Moses recorded these words he used all pass tense words, were, was.
That separation of waters longer was around, the waters above had fallen to the esrth as the deluge.
This is also mentioned in 2 Peter 3:5
The firmament or expanse, atmosphere that all life would need so God was still preparing the earth for life.
The waters above the earth would have created a semi tropical affect around the planet hence how we find palm trees in upper Siberia.
As the water fell at the poles it instantly froze.
Like frozen mammoths.
I think the polar ice caps are man made because the current sea level fits perfectly with the global land art sculptures.
Also there is a theory that the waters above the firmament formed a semi frozen sea above the giant trees that covered the whole earth. It was kept pliable by the sodium that came from the moon's sodium geysers.
When the moon burned out the waters froze, then cracked and then collapsed. I guess you could call it a catastrophic ice quake. This was also caused by all the giant trees being cut down.
When the flood settled down the sea level was 400 miles inland on the west Sahara, reaching the tear duct of Atlantis; the Eye of Africa. That water had to go somewhere.
Also, the polar Ice caps hide the global land art that is under them. At the North pole is Satan on his throne with a snake coming down from his throne, lodging in the throat of Man and hoovering over the spirit of Man.
@@timothyappleseed2986 don't give man credit for thay
@@HairGlitter well, if it wasn't man who cut down all the giant trees to make the global land art with giant bulldozers then who did? God doesn't use bulldozers does he?
I would love to hear this doctors thoughts on Walt Brown's Hydroplate theory. I bet if they both collaborated, sticking with the evidence and being truthful, the two of them could present quite a nice section of the puzzle. The old world was destroyed and the entire landscape is so different than it was. I love that I find marine fossils in the northern reaches of the New Madrid Fault line up through Indiana. It baffles evolutionists
ozowen That is what happened. That theory lines up with another theory where the ocean plates (denser than the mantle it was on) suddenly subducted and dived deep into the mantle. This would force the rapid creation of new ocean plates as the Pangea continent was rapidly ripped apart. This counter intuitively raised the sea level as the new plate didn’t sit so low. All the heat discharged into the water as the new plate cools would result in massive amounts of water being thrown into the air by the rapid creation of steam.
@@ozowen5961 Agreed! As the physicists like to say: "not even wrong"
@@firewing1319 the hydroplate theory contradicts the catastrophic plate tectonics theory you described. That’s why the hydroplate theory must be rejected as insufficient
@Cosmic Treason Hey cosmic- something initiated all the 'ring of fire ' volcano's, simultaneously! Any guesses? And what would all that ash and C02 cause? An ice age?
Correct.
It was a tectonic flood, and ocean floor has it all on display.
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@@UserRandJ the fountains of the deep were opened. Water came from above and from below
God bless this man & his family I wish I could find a church that Teaches this this make the Bible come alive as a movie I have no words
I really like Dr. Wise and his enthusiasm. His findings seem like plausible evidence supporting the Noah Flood, and for me this aligns with other historical writings I have seen outside of the Scripture.
God bless you Gentlemen.❤️🙏👏🏻
@@MadmanThreeTwoTwo Turn to Jesus
AWESOME!!!! So interesting! Thank You!!!!
One thing I can say is that the Genesis account focuses on animals and plants large enough for early man to understand, not really on the creation of the life forms they wouldn’t. The creative days likely being seven thousand years long each, it still seems sensible that microbes would be some of the first created even if not mentioned. Bigger life forms depend on the small ones, certainly they were created to get the ball rolling before other critters. Having short life spans I would imagine too, dying early in the record.
The word used in Hebrew is for 7 literal days.
Jediknight A scholar used that word in his translation for reasons we don’t know. Reasoning from applicable other scriptures, the logical conclusion of seven thousand human years equal to a creative day makes complete sense to me. Don’t forget, the creator of the sun and moon never governed his day by those objects. The word day has various meanings. Observe creation in detail and design. All that in 24 hours? Jehovah set all the physical laws and properties due to his dynamic energy and power and intelligence. There was no magic mumbo jumbo snap into existence moment like a Disney movie. If you wish, I can bring you further information.
Your on one Boulder! It's very interesting!🤣🤣❤❤
I listened with fascination to the section about the quarter mile sized boulders embedded in so called glacial deposits. (If I remembered that right) and to me, the evidence he showed, seemed to support the ancient Sumerian texts talking about a collision between Earth and Tiamat, which would easily explain the molten intrusions.... any thoughts?
That's not ancient Sumerian texts... that's Zachariah Sitchin.
The Bible stories all comes from the Sumerians, same, god, same angels, same Adam, same Eve, same Flood ( Gilgamesh )....
Would love to the see the good doctor debate Bill Nye “the science guy”.
Actually, I thoroughly enjoy watching the Dr. Hugh Ross Stephen Meyers, Dr. Lenox debate people like Bill Nye or Neil deGrasse Tyson etc! All are PhD's in physics, astrophysics, biology, microbiology, DNA research & applications, geology, archeology! None believe in young earth but can give reasons why. All are very devout Christians and many scientists are having problems with the old Darwinian model they fight so hard to hang onto because of new findings from people like those 3 amazing scientists!
It would be a waste of time for Bill Nye !
This guy is so cute and exciting! He reminds me of my Jr. High School science teacher Mr. Chreighton, he made me love science even more than I already did.
Loony
Very well done. Very informative. Thank you.
Never forget the first time it ever rained water from the heavens was the Flood..
Read genesis chapter two
Not necessarily true op
He has a hard time conveying the broader concept and loses his audience with detailed verbiage. Is his audience scientists or laypeople?
@ReligionlessFAITH You can dispute a creator God when you can scientifically produce anything, much less the complexities of life from absolute nothing.
If you believe that matter always existed, how can you not accept that intelligent life may have pre-existed our universe.
I am not offended by your unbelief in a God, just trying to say that your position requires a lot of faith.
Another thing that I often find with Athiests, are that their hatred towards this God is usually born from some hurt they experienced in their life where they felt betrayed by this God. In that case, I feel sad for you and wish you healing.
ReligionlessFAITH 95% major fossil groups appear randomly with respect to evolution... so I wouldn’t be so sure about your theory
Cant imagine this guy teaching university, wouldnt hold my attention very long
@@needaman66 He got mine.
@ReligionlessFAITH nobody, except evolutionists, claim that God created unique species in each layer. They always pretend to understand how was the flood if it happened and attack that straw man or straw flood.
I could listen to him for a long time. He is fun to listen to as well. Very interesting. My husband found some stromatolites in Wyoming and also found a petrified geyser tube.
I have an exploded stratified boulder which has a totally different mono color material holding it together yet
Genesis 1: "Then God said: “Let there be an expanse between the waters, and let there be a division between the waters and the waters.” 7 Then God went on to make the expanse and divided the waters beneath the expanse from the waters above the expanse."
This indicates a water canopy above the expanse...... this water canopy kept the earth in a hothouse type of state. A lot of moisture (mist coming up from earth and the poles free of ice). A temperate climate earth wide.... not too hot or too cold wherein large animals (which need a lot of water) can move around. Plants would have been prolific. The air consistency would allow for terradactals to fly. Seasons were not as harsh as today.
Gen 1:21 "And God created the great sea creatures and all living creatures that move and swarm in the waters according to their kinds and every winged flying creature according to its kind. And God saw that it was good". Large animals need lots of water to regulate temperature and move/wade/swim around easily (reptiles with cold blood especially).
Genesis 2: 5b & 6 " because YHWH God had not made it rain on the earth and there was no man to cultivate the ground. 6 But a mist would go up from the earth, and it watered the entire surface of the ground."
No rain before the flood and no rainbow...... a wonderful mild ecosystem.
This canopy broke and came down from above as well..... so after the flood the poles started icing up with glaciers forming.
People's ages were dropping from a few hundred years to just over hundred years postflood because of buildup of bad UV rays in atmosphere. Noah miscalculated and got drunk because the direct sun makes more sugar in grapes (wine with more alcohol, stronger than before the flood).
Animals may also have been much larger before the flood. After the flood animals adapted to a new dryer environment and altered plant life. .....(their food source changed). The bible gives us many clues about the pre-flood world.
Yes yes yes ! You have it got it totally nailed. You understand.
So this is why our life spans are so pathetically short compared to previous generations
Pray and it will be given to you,seek and you will find ,knock and the door will be opened.
That is an empty promise.
Christopher Johnson promise is true,you get your job by asking,seeking,knocking managers door 🚪.
@@thewill968 Wrong. People seek all the time and don't always find what they are looking for. People often don't get what they ask for, and people often don't have a door open when they've knocked on it.
You have confirmation bias, and are beginning with a conclusion and then going to find something to support it. This causes you to only pay attention to what agrees with your conclusion while you ignore all the things that show it to be wrong.
You are supposed to begin with the evidence, and then go looking for the logical conclusion that follows from the evidence. You are doing it backwards.
@@doctorwebman A brief description of the scientific method:
1. Observe something.
2. Form a hypothesis to explain it.
3. Collect Data.
4. Conclusion.
You may notice that forming a hypothesis comes before collecting data. All science has conjecture before evidence. Without it, the scientific method would not be able to make new discoveries, since only pre-existing conclusions would be allowed. Your methodological standards disqualify science in its entirety. You may want to re-evaluate your standards.
@@SimpleAmadeus You observe evidence, genius.
Enjoy the On-site Discussions much better, but this is real presentation verses Evolutionary Belief/Theory.
Dr Wise, what if the flood is cyclic. Supposedly there have been 3 super continents. What if the same mechanism moves them over and over? Marine rock cools and densifies as it is pushed away from the mid ocean ridges. Over time this dense cold rock dives under a continental plate causing a rapid subduction.
I wonder if it has anything to do with the magnetic pole shift that the Earth seems to cyclically go through, and at the moment we are experiencing the beginning of another pole shift and rate the poles move speed up every year so it definitely seems underway. Also I wonder if that event can cause the Earth crustal displacement, or at-least the theory of that phenomenon. I certainly believe this event is some sort of cycle, and the flood is just a consequence of the forces or other events. I also think the Sun and other celestial forces/objects could be factored in to all this.
Apparently as the magnetic poles shift the field gradually weakens to the point it’s almost gone at or around the climax of the flip when the speed of the poles rapidly speed up. If you consider the possibility of Earth being hit by a massive cme/flare or even a micronova then maybe the combination of events causes some sort of crazy reaction with Earth’s plates and the magma. Perhaps at the moment we are experiencing the “birth pangs” and warnings of what is to come, as in another flood or great calamity on Earth
Interesting thought. If it is cyclic, any others occurred before humanity or life as we know it. Practically every civilization on earth reports that there was one flood their ancestors endured long ago. According to the Bible, the conditions that made that flood possible can't be duplicated with the way the earth functions today, because it changed the earth both inside and out. Maybe it was the water equivalent to "the big one" we're always waiting for with earth's supervolcanos, and it exhausted whatever resources the earth had to repeat the event.
I think it's funny that scientists today claim there are entire plantets made of gold or diamonds or covered in water, that there is a whole ocean underneath the frozen moon of Saturn (or is it Jupiter?) which may hold life, that Venus is basically one eternal volcano...
But we have all kinds of geologic anomalies which defy their theory of life which is less than 200 years old, and they think it laughable that Earth could have once had water under its crust which burst out due to geologic changes and covered earth in water which its inhabitants had to try and survive. The thought that people back then could have recognized signs in the earth and considered it a divine warning seems bizarre to them, LOL...
Or maybe they just don't want to lend any credibility to groups they don't like and they think the old "what you don't know can't hurt you."
speak to me of holy things!
Search for another video then and don't be condescending it is an enjoyable subject.
12k years ago was a large glacial retreat. Recorded by ancient civilizations and later imposed onto the event known as Noahs flood. The event separated most of the world's civilizations as well as destroyed coastal cities with a sea level rise of about 400 Ft.
Tell me about it... which civilization recorded this glacial shift? I mean the first records and documentations of any civilization only started appearing after 3000 BC (after flood) if were talking history and archeology not the highly inaccurate carbon dating method
Mix R ....good question.....I have no confidence in any ability to provide evidence for his statement. The Biblical flood proceeded the ice age and later the people were divided at the Tower of Babel.....
Except that the ice age saw numerous (and extremely gradual) advances and retreats of glacial ice. The last one occurred over a period of a thousand years. Sea levels rose at a rate of about 1 meter per 100 years. That is significant, but it doesn't come anywhere near describing the flood of the Bible.
The aborigines of northern Australia have the rise in sea levels from the end of the last incorporated into their Dreamtime stories but nothing about any devastating flood that covered the land.
@@tallyhorizzla3330 I would venture to say that probably every human group that is ever existed has experienced some sort of catastrophic flood at some point in their history. I don't understand why people think that's evidence of something.
Science teachers are awesome, i remember mine destroying a cieling light because of a rouge wasp.
My high-school math and science teacher had a huge pet iguana. Sometimes it would whip the crap out of him with his tail, so when he came to class, he would have tail marks all over his arms 😂😂😂
@@Broken-Flesh hahaha 😄
@Broken-Flesh was he perhaps a Satanist?
Hello, Dr. Wise, I don’t suppose you check all 800 messages, but in case you do, and have time to answer, I have a question, (btw I enjoyed the presentation so thank you I was just despairing on finding some valid evidence for a global flood, from someone trained in geology, when I came across this - praise God). I’m a little confused because we’re told on day 5 the oceans are filled with creatures of all kinds, so wouldn’t we expect the oceans not to be boiling hot? Or is this just one section of coast (12 times around the world) that has this hot spring, wouldn’t we expect to find more creatures in the pre-Cambrian (or pre-flood) world?
What makes you think the oceans were boiling hot? I’m not following
The precambrian was formed before the end of day 3
Dr Wise , I dug up full body Giants in fossil and clay form in NC. I think a mud slide buried them , and the salt from the ocean waters and the mud turned their bodies into clay and the bones into rock . I have full bodies as they died . See my you tube videos , I'll have better videos this summer as I'll be filmed as I remove the dirt from the Giants body .I believe he will be 24 feet tall . He is 8 feet from the top of his head down to his elbow , were normal man is only 2 feet from the head to elbow .
Shame on you for spreading damned lies
More pictures more 3d models more google Earth. I couldn't get a clear picture of what was going on.
I love this guy's enthusiasm! It's infectious. 👍
So is covid.
Is what he is describing here explained the gap theory of Gen. 1:2?
No, at the end he explains that the long time period is the 1656 years of the pre flood world, and that the reason no other fossils are found is that due to high temperatures and bacterial growth animals and plants both wouldn’t live there and secondly their carcasses would be decomposed before they could be buried
This is all wrong - shockingly horrifyingly wrong.
Total fiction....
Epic levels of absolute waffle..in fact, a flood if it. 5 mins in...and I'm out.
This description makes sense when you look at an Ark being the vessel for saving mankind and the animals. The only possible way to survive such a cataclysm would be on the ocean. Even there, it'd be a wild ride!
Consider both young and old are true being taken out of context and time. There is no conflict of the two, only confusion for lack of understanding.
Nope, only YEC is true
I Noticed by commenting below too many thirsty atheists have NOTHING better 2 do then Troll ppl who have FAITH in God Almighty
Smfh
They prey on those who will make them sound the most intelligent. It's a real ego boost for them. They do this only after they've depleted their list of friends who are bored listening to their banal diatribe. Not to mention they love putting people down who have something they cherish in their lives. I guess when you're left with only you and your ego all that's left is running down Christians. They're too chicken to run down Muslims.
@@jimwilliams3517 lol isn't this the truth it seems
Smfh
This is the guy who said:
If all the evidence i universe demonstrated an old earth, I would still be a young earth creationist, because that is what the holy scripture tells me.
And as the evidence of an old earth is undisputed with in the scientific community, Kurt's explanation is fabricated by him and his "friends".
How can anyone ever believe in a person like him?
well done and thank you.
In the last days, knowledge will be increased. It most definitely has just by this example. Listen up people, GOD is crying out
Knowledge will increase yet love will decrease. Thats not a good trade in Creators eyes.
Rocks? Don't believe mainstream media. All rock formations and mountains we see today are remnants of giant trees that reached the heavens. The wood has petrified (that is the so called 'rock' you talk about) and the sap turns into quartz etc. Everything we have been taught by the so called authorities is a LIE. By the way, it's not a planeT it's a PLANE.
I don't believe in Flat earth, as it's just another thing that divides us. The so called prehistoric place in time is a half truth. Fallen angels cut down the trees in order to shrink every organism on Earth. Now, back to flat Earth. When God spoke of the "plane", God could have been speaking of Earth's level of existance, thought, or development. Before you bake a cake, the cake is plane(plain) before you put the icing on top.
After the first 5 minutes of rambling I understand why this video is over an hour long.
Every book has an intro.
If God brung the animals from the sea land and skies to Adam. How would land animals come to Adam before the Lord to be named? Especially from continents that’s month’s away in distance
@4:11 I disagree. The Bible Is Clear: The rivers flowing out of Eden mentioned in chapter 2 are still in existence. We just don't know where "Havilah" or the river Pishon are. The others are known, even though they no longer connect in the same way. Personally I think the River Pishon is the Amazon, except it's flowing backwards... As is the Nile/Gihon in Cush(Egypt) or do I have that wrong... IMHO
False. The rivers described in Genesis 4 are all flowing from a common source and there is no such connection of 4 rivers anywhere on the planet
He looses his train of thought or he's trying to cover more than one topic but he's lecture is very disjointed. :(
I work in Neurology and this happens when Drs begin discussing their disciplines among themselves and not directly to the patient. They will ramble and ramble bringing in all kinds of therapies, causes, processes and I often get the task of "translating." They are not salesmen and we are used to sales talk. Listening to him reminded me of college days with friends and professors. He loves this stuff and is not trying to sell and we end up getting confused. ;)
Imagination only !
Research mudfossils... the world is stranger than you can imagine.
You can't take it seriously when you see these completely different things, and you're supposed to believe they gradually changed from one to the other over unimaginable lengths of time, but all you ever see are these same six things and nothing halfway, or 0.00000000001 way or 0.0000000000002 way between them at all!
This very fascinating ! I’d have to listen several times to catch it all because of the geological jargon. But I get the jest of it and it all makes since. Really believe looking at the Hebrew language there have been two floods. The first being between Gen.1:1 and 1:2. The Bible states that Hod creates all things perfect and in order. Gen.1:2 makes it clear the world was flooded and in a chaotic mess. Adam and Eve were told to “ RE” populate the earth just like Noah. Man had been here 6,000 years and while the earth may not be millions of years old it could be a 100,000 I just don’t know. Something went on before God created Adam and Eve, just don’t know what and how long a period. I do love Mr.Kurts Wises fantastic info though!
* God
@ronlawrence342 that's not true at all. I've heard this lie before. In genesis God describes the earth a waterworld void and formless with no light before he created the light, then he describes this creation as the first day, then each single day after he creates new things into existence. Day two he created a vault that separated the water from the waters of heaven and that vault was called the sky. Day 3 he creates the sun and moon. Day 4 THEN he creates dry land and vegetation.
I tried but 😴 💤
Basically, he's saying. The earth itself, is suggesting that there was a world-wide flood. These fossils are not separated by millions of years, but were living at the same time before the flood. Again, not millions of years apart.
Then the Big water came and mixed everything. But in 12 spots of the world, they have the exact same layers as well as mixed layers in some places, and kept others unchanged. If you believe in Creation and the Flood, this is real evidence.
I love fairy tales! Thank you for this.
“I LovE fAiRY tALes!” 🤪🤪🤪🤪
What if the super continent Pangea, was Eden, an the flood event was so brutal because it separated the continents into what we know now.
People wrongfully attributed the grand Canyon as a long process when it makes more sense with what's there that it happened really fast.
Could the same be said for the splitting of the continents?
Genesis Apologetics has a much better and more comprehensive video exploring the theoretical dynamics of a global flood and how the soil/fossil levels were laid down. This guy was a mumbling and meandering mess.
That's a good thought there. I always thought maybe that happened when The Lord separated the people at the tower of babel, but your idea makes much more sense. Take care
yes.i think so...although maybe not all at once.i imagine pangaea cracked and new landmasses formed before the full flood break up
No, Eden was one place in the center of the continent
No.
I’m glad this professor is a Christian. I’m glad that others appreciate his presentation. But somehow I didn’t have enough preliminary understanding to get the most out of this.
Same here. I’m like…what now? But after reading all of the positive comments, I kept listening for the good stuff of how the flood might have been.
@@kellyanne7225i added the best lectures to my playlist. I recommend starting with the in depth explanation one, it is easiest to follow
He should become Muslim. Insh'Allah...
You do know it's a fantasy, right...
It seems to me that every time science goes looking for something mentioned in scripture they find it ,
Love your sense of humor.
If You Put Enough Pressure On A Lot Of Substances, They Melt Or Vaporize, Not Just Ice.
Thank you for making sense of the old earth snowball earth theory. So what they see as glaciers and proof of the snowball earth is really evidence of meteorite impacts (sorry, continental collapse) at the beginning of the flood
Hate these just talk lecture ones I can’t stay interested
Children need pictures in their books. Adults with wisdom and a decent IQ have an attention span.
This is wierd, hearing someone talking, allegedly scientifically, about Cambrian and Pre-Cambrian life and also suggesting the flood myth is true. Its like hearing someone talk about astronomy and then suggest that Ra actually carried the sun across the sky in a chariot.
check out Prof. Walter Veith's youtube: "The Fossil Record Speaks" --he taught evolution theory for many years before questioning his beliefs and looking at the actual science.
Yeah. That's what he's saying. He's saying the evidence that they're finding, in the world out there, is disproving those "time periods" it's not weird. I'd say that's amazing. That the sediments themselves are disproving theories that suggest evolution, but do confirm a world-wide flood. Where else is there a flood story.?
@@airaielion Nothing discovered in the last 150 years has cast any doubt on evolution. the phylogenetic analysisof species genomes alone has proven that common descent of all life and therefore evolution is true. To think that there was ever a global flood is imbecilic!
Matt Holton ok. Thanks.
Kent Hovind, Walter Veith, Ravi Zacharia ect... In all aspects of life you will find JESUS. The book of Daniel, the timeline of great kingdoms, the real mt Sinai. Noahs ark on mount Ararat, the oldest known Civilization Mesopotamia thats next to modern day Turkey.... Its way too much to mention, you have to have more faith to believe in evolution, than to believe God made everything.... Ie its easier to believe in Jesus....
I wish Dr. Wise could explain Sharon conglomerate to me.
very cooool thanx