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Can Archaeology Teach Us Anything about the Conquest of Canaan? - Douglas Petrovich
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Kathleen Kenyon was working for Jordanian authorities. The Jordanians had a desire to prove the non-existence of Ancient Israel. I am not convinced that her archeological conclusions were objective.
Even if some scientists may be bound in their research by their each presuppositional agenda it is nevertheless very remarkable and interesting that her dating of Jericho's conquest has only a difference of 6 years (according to this lecture) in relation to the strict biblical chronology which reveals the conquest of Jericho for 1566 BC, which is 40 years after the Exodus which occurred 2513 Anno Hominem = 1606 BC
I guess by leaving behind the presuppositions of her collegues, the acknowlegded Archaeologists of her time, she was able to come close to the real time of the occurence of her research object without knowing the strict biblical timeline.
Conquest from 1566 to 1560 BC.
Not 'to early' as according to the false presuppositions of Dough Petrovic but in accordance with the strict biblical chronology.
Jews are not Israelites
@@oxyntasbuyghes4696 Judeans, Binyaminites, Shimonites, and Levites made up the Southern Kingdom of Judea, the Jews. They represented 4 of the 13 tribes of Israel (11 with land aportionment). But I am sure you have your own set of contrived facts.
@@oxyntasbuyghes4696 Jews is short for Judeans; Judea is in the southern kingdom of Israel - so, Jews=Israelites.
@@dovbarleib3256 and what makes you think these are Israelites? And who is Israel? Where did he live and when did he live?
The Bible who was written centuries ago tells us when these things happen, it is certainly way more reliable than the opinion of a 20th or 21st century individual, even if you can notice this person in the room.
True yet you and many others have watched the video.
Regardless of how we think things should play out, God will always have a witness.
He doesn't mind at all if we find these things out and realize that they are true even beyond the written word; that is HE left evidence of his works in the earth.
Test all things, including the spirits is written for a reason that certainly applies here.
You need a special video about all the "footprint" sites in eastern Canaan, and a video about Joshua's Altar on Mt. Eibal in particular.
My wife is very upset that it was only after she graduated that you began to get such spectacular speakers.
Thank you for the upload. God's blessings ❤🕊
Geology as well. It teaches about Noah and the flood Love Douglas
great work Dr. Petrovich
True master scholar! Thank you, sir!
Can the Bible teach Archaeology? YES!!!
Dr Petrovich = wonderful, faithful servant of the true, living God
Old Jericho was probably the government centre for the city, more of a fort, which population living outside the walls.
And what's your foundation for assuming this?
The red brick wall falling outward as it did, provided a ramp for the Israelis to walk into the city, as stated in the bible.
13: 53. The Mystery of iniquity doth already work.
And, The carnal mind is enmity against Elohim; for it is not subject to the law of Elohim, neither indeed can be.
Romans 8: 7.
I find it quite telling that NO other culture, nation or nation has entire organizations determined to disprove its existence.
1566 BC according to biblical chronology.
Thus Petrovich without any need takes a middle position. Only the strict biblical timeline has the early exodus which occurred according to God's word in its whole context
2513 Anno Hominem = 1606 BC
I believe one of the reason Kenyon dated the site incorrectly was because of pressure from her Jordanian hosts. People have to remember that in between Garstang’s and Kenyon’s digs Israel became a nation (in 1948).
Was the iron "curse tablet" found after this lecture? I would love to hear Dr.Petrovich's comments on it.
Those photos of the Bushels of grain are the testimony to all of human history that some people came and sacrificed grain at the burning of Jericho. And there were no survivors because they would have starvingly scavenged that grain unless it was protected by a religeous interdiction.
Essential.
There were Giants in those days / thus the walls?
David Rohl is the way to roll!!
Ty!
great stuff
We have Amenhotep II's mummy, so how can he be the Exodus Pharaoh, who according to Psalms was cast down into the sea along with his army?
Interesting. Could his loyal followers have fished his corpse out of the drink?
@@KenJackson_US I mean, it's possible ... maybe? Though it also seems highly unlikely.
Why _"highly unlikely",_ @@beowulf.reborn? Drowned bodies float after a couple days. And in their culture the pharaoh was nearly a god. They were required to prepare his body, and have a burial. Do you really think they'd just shrug their shoulders and move on?
@@KenJackson_US it takes two to three days for a body to begin floating after death ... and even longer for bodies submerged in cold water. Furthermore, bodies submerged at depths greater than 30 meters may never surface, due to the temperature, pressure, etc.
Add to that, the fact that Pharaoh would likely have been wearing a significant amount of cloth, and/or metal, both as protection and to display his wealth and power.
Now, have all this happen far from Egypt, in sea, with countless other people drowning too, with marine life eating the bodies, and currents dragging them all over the place, assuming they weren't buried by tons of sediment from the crashing walls of water ... and the chance of someone locating the Pharaoh's bloated decomposing corpse, and taking it back across the desert to be mummified? Like I said, it seems highly unlikely ... albeit, it is technically _possible,_ so we can't rule it out completely ... but yeah, very unlikely.
@@beowulf.reborn: _"... albeit, it is technically possible, so we can't rule it out ..."_
You said yourself that _"we have Amenhotep II's mummy,"_ so what further proof is needed?
Any explanation to why they've let that grain? Why did they leave that grain mrs. Kathryn
4:56 Israelites conquest Canaan
1406 B.C. entry into the land
13:19
Final destruction of Hatzor
➡️ Deborah & Barach
🔹
1566 BC
The ancient Egyptians were propagandist.... For example: the"great victory of Ramses over the Hittites at Kadesh. The Hittites recorded the same incident and,it told a very different outcome.
Ramses was nearly captured by the Hittites.
The great victory of the Egyptians was at best,a very near terrible defeat that resulted in a draw...
The Egyptians had their own "spin doctors"... They would never advertise such a massive defeat that God performed upon the Egyptian kingdom for the liberation of Israel...
Wicked men who hide the truth in unrighteousness!
It's been a campaign by the establishment of the scientific world.... Anyone who disagrees with the status quo is attacked and vilified by the establishment of scholarly propagandist.... They're all willing to swallow broken glass than to admit they were wrong....
Agreed.
*1406 BC* - Joshua enters the promise land and starts the conquest! Got it.
Dr. Douglas Petrovitch argues for a 15th century BC Exodus (ca. 1446 BC, based on 1 Kings 6:1).
He also understands Moses wrote the Pentateuch or first five books f the Bible (the Jewish TORAH).
The problem?
Genesis,, if written by Moses (1446-1406 BC), mentions the Edomite capital of Bozrah (Ge 36:32-33).
When excavated in the 1970s the site (today's Busayra) was found to have been in existence from the 8th-5th centuries BC (the 700's-400s BC).
If Moses wrote Genesis ca. 1446-1406 BC, how to account for a site no earlier than the 700's BC (8th century BC)?
Approximately 700 years have elapsed from Moses' 1446 BC mention of Bozrah and its being founded in the 700's BC.
Obviously, whoever wrote about the Edomite kings of Bozrah, it wasn't a 15th Century BC Moses, it was most probably someone fraudulently claiming to be Moses, some time after Bozrah came into existence.
Regards,
Walter Mattfeld
Minor scribal addition writing to an audience centuries after Moses. This type of objection is a nothing burger.
@@Wonderboywonderings Thank you for confirming that Moses did NOT write about Bozrah, someone fraudulently claiming to be Moses wrote about the site at some time after its creation in the 8th century BC when the site was founded. By what magic do you determine what MOses wrote and what was later added by scribes, fraudulantly putting in Moses' mouth, statements about Bozrah?
@@WalterRMattfeld scribal emendations are a known thing and don't preclude overall authorship. They're not a controversial thing. You either know this already and are pretending to be dumb, or are just dumb. You're not clever and you're fooling no one. Except yourself. #Yawn
David Rohl solves the problem of dates.
See the other videos of this series, where Petrovitch referenced to Grisanti (2001) on a thoey of minor scribe update of information such as the location names.
If 100’s of thousands of people spent 40 years in an area we would expect to find traces of their material culture and wastes. Tools, pottery, graves, poop, animal bones. I dare say we would expect to find more than tent pole holes. We are talking 100’s of thousands of people for 40 years. Hence the empty room. It’s not skepticism. Would that there was evidence of The Exodus. I would be the first to cheer.
DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR
Hebrews being tribally nomadic or put it how current age Jewish people's say. "Leaving the rare evidence behind is how we survive as people. Aggression magnanimous and change you.
" An Overt magic show... I think not! "it is a skillful orchestra, lures you in doesn't confuse and put you off and out!"
(this is my cut and pasted commentary to a TOTALLY DIFFERENT but related video so please adjust your reading accordingly )I can only assume that many Archeologists are just pretending to not understanding things that they 'investigate'. As such they fit they pattern of all western investigations into anything of import, value and guilt: they just pretend to keep studying and only 'discover' either nothing or that which suits their own private interests. Here (and I haven't watched the WHOLE video yet but enough to comment I believe) the early part of the video goes back and forth between an 'EXODUS' in 1450 bc and an EXODUS in 1250 BC. The most important thing to know is that the 'Exodus' is greatly misnamed. It is the collection of an army to exterminate the various competing human (non-dictatorial, non-tyranical) civilizations. It is the main (and continuing) battle between Tyranny and Freedom of which we are fed many later and false versions in modern history. The Tyrant Pharaohs, are dictators who don't want to just control but wish to exterminate all humans. What drove the Pharaohs to be such inhumane... presumably humans? I can only guess that thousands of years of rule together with inbreeding and the gradual turning to violent, harsh, methods of control shaped them into what they were. They in many ways stamped their horrific worldview and methods on the modern world and that's a long story told in the Paris Paradigm.
Let me just say, having watched the first part, that BOTH THE TWO ALTERNATE DATES OF 1450 B.C. AND 1250 B.C. ARE CRITICAL. 'Traditional' deceptive archeology is reflected in movies like The Ten Commandments set in the Ramses 1250 bc period. But it is quite obvious that a pharaoh named THUT-MOSES II is a better choice for producing a biblical 'MOSES'. You have to be quite dense or more likely deceptive to ignore such numerous cues. In this Video the obvious truth of the 1450 date is presented as a radical new theory. Typical. But the extermination of Humanity WAS AND CONTINUES TO BE a very long term project (though it seems to be finally approaching victory). Both 1450 bc and 1250 bc represents major attacks of the Pharaohs' created army upon the known world. 1450 bc was the first and was carried out by the new 'Hebrew' (NOT Jewish) ten tribe army (these are an army that took many names and identities through history, including the 'vikings' and ended up settling and still remaining concentrated in NW Europe, Benolux, and Scandinavia. Movements of course spread them to Australia, America, etc etc also.. if it were not such a sloppy term you could say Hebrews are in fact 'whites' but don't include those deceived into thinking they are white such as Italians, Irish, Scottish, Greek... all the way to India who are falsely associated with Germans to better victimize them). The critical 1250 date refers to the Trojan War.. the last step in this periods defeat and successful dispersion of the human/Hellenic/Greek tribes. Greeks DEFENDED the fortress at troy and the Hellespont/Dardanelles sea passage. They did not, in that particular version of the war, attack it. Though other times they attacked it and took over which is why it was so easy to confuse and confound the two sides in the Trojan War. Any perceptive reading of the Iliad by a Greek Speaker will uncover that deception. The results of these 'changes' to history do change EVERYTHING about modern history and YOUR Identity. This is a central point of the Paris Paradigm.
It is easy to sort of mix 1450 with 1250 because both represent major offensives by a pharaoh toward world domination. Successful offensives. Let's start with the Exodus 'to Canaan'. Does it seem ridiculous to you that half a million Hebrews 'wandered the dessert' feeding on 'Manna' only? Manna is an as yet undefined nutrient. Yes, it is absurd and impossible. Truth is they were surrounding and occupying a greatly weakened Hellenic World in the Aegean Sea after the eruption of Thera devastated them... navy, crops, port cities, were all destroyed by volcanic ash and tsunamis and tidal waves. The Pharaohs army spent exactly 40 years surrounding, fighting, and 'occupying' (in the modern sense of the word) much of the Greek world. in 1404 b.c. the job was done well enough and the White/Hebrew (Not Jewish which is very different) army then went to take Canaan per the traditional Old Testament Story. The genocide and occupation of the Greek world was totally erased... except that there is a book written about it that you can read and 'decode' appropriately. It is Thucydides Peloponesian War. You just have to know that the 'Dorians' mistranslated as 'Spartans' are Not Greeks but are of the ten tribes as their very different behavior and society so clearly indicates (even as a child, I said to myself 'these are NOT Greeks'. How could they be? They glorified War, Stealing and Killed their own children. ). New translations of The Peloponesian War cal it a 27 year war right on the very first page as a matter of consistent editorialism. Why do all texts add this 'fact?'. Because it's a lie... the war lasted exactly 40 years (like the years Moses allegedly spent in the Desert but didn't) and 17 of those years had already past when Thucydides began his work WITHOUT EVER REFERRING TO THOSE 17 years. Narrators will tell you he doesn't mention them because he didn't have a military command yet. Lies of course. So while the official (properly expanded) dates of the Peloponosian War where Sparta (.. really the Pharaoh's army or Exodus of 10 tribe white/Hebrews) attacked Athens are 444 to 404 b.c. The ACTUAL date is precisely 1000 years earlier 1444 bc to 1404 b.c.. And in this way you can begin to see the methods by which your history has been altered and your identity changed... but you need to learn much more. Read my page over time with patience. Paris Sparrow on the Paris Paradigm.
P.S. missing here is Most Critical story of How and Why the 'ten tribe Hebrews' existed under the pharaoh's power and how he shaped them, created them really, as an army. This story is not in literal accordance with the New Testament and is rather shocking for the first time reader but you can find the answer in posts below. It is the key to the current dysfunctions in the modern world.
If your stating Joshua did not write the book of Joshua, then your relying on conjecture only. In fact there is absolutely no proof that Joshua did not write his own book.
You must understand that the Bible writers at no time deviated from what God instructed them to write a d in fact God's own instruction is verified in prophecy all throughout the Bible. So to claim contrary to that is in a way being apostate.
At 30:17 Dr. Petrovitch makes a brief mention about Radio Carbon findings of the burnt grain found at Jericho in storage jars, but regrets he does not have the time to discuss the issue in his lecture.
For those unaware of the "controversy" the latest Radio Carbon dating of the burnt grain tends to support Kenyon's date for the burning of Jericho as circa 1550 BC, NOT 1406 BC as advocated by Petrovitch and other Christian Apologists.
Those scholars who prefer a burning circa 1406 BC in harmony with the Bible, have refused to accept the latest Radio-Carbon findings and still champion a 1406 BC burning in harmony with the Bible.
So, the latest Radio Carbon dating of the burnt grain is a BIG ISSUE, as it supports Kenyon and NOT Petrovitch.
Kenyon understood Jericho was torched by Pharaoh Ahmoses I, the founder of the 18th Dynasty, in the course of his making Canaan a part of the new Egyptian Empire which would last for 400 years. The last powerful Pharaoh being Rameses 6th of circa 1130 BC.
After 1130 BC, Egypt abandons Canaan, and the political vaccum is filled by new states: The Philistines on the Mediterranean Sea Coast (Gaza) and the Israelites at the Jordan River (Iron Age I, 1200-1100 BC).
Meanwhile, the Moabite cities of Heshbon and Elealeh, awarded to Reuben and Gad by Moses, have been excavated and found to be no earlier than Iron Age I (1200-1100 BC), they did not exist circa 1446-1406 BC in Petrovitch's 15th century BC Exodus World.
Dr. Burton MacDonald (2000, East of the Jordan, Boston, ASOR),, an expert on archaeological findings in Edom and Moab, mentioned in Exodus and the Conquest by Moses and Joshua, avers that Exodus' World is that of the late Iron Age II, circa the 8th-6th centuries BC.
I date the composition of the Pentateuch to between 562-560 BC, based on 2 Kings 25:27. The Exodus account being written in the Babylonian Exile.
Radio Carbon Dating has been proven to be highly inaccurate... The latest research has shown this to be true...
On reading Biblical Chronology, have you considered that numbers of years may be symbolic in the sense that "40 years" may mean "a generation" that is about 25 years. In which case multiples of 40 years may really be multiples of 25 years. Particularly when referring to events prior to the monarchy (when official chronicles began to be written), durations of years should be scaled by 5/8.
For example, try reconciling the chronologies of Jacob and Joseph using the raw numbers in the text, then see how using 5/8 scaling gets them to line up.
God didn't reveal HIS timeline for calculating plays. Not man decides truth. God's word, the Bible, is truth.
According to the biblical text in its whole context: From God's covenant with Abraham 2036 BC to the Exodos 1606 BC = 430 year.
From confirming Issac as the rightful seed/heir 2006 BC to the Exodus 1606 BC = 400 years.
480 years later
[480 years Judges etc. s. below
+114 years surpression by enenies which God doesn't count in relation to HIS temple
= 594 years]
1012 BC = 4th year of Salomo, start of building the temple
From 976 BC [the division into Israel and Juda after Salomo's death] to the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple 586 BC = 390 years.
BERECHNUNG DES ZEITRAUMS VOM EINZUG BIS ZUR LANDVERTEILUNG
Jahre Ereignis
40 Jahre in der Wüste (Apg 13,18)
6 Die 6 Jahre der Eroberung bis Landverteilung (errechnen sich wie oben angeführt)
x Jahre nach der Landverteilung bis zur 1. Unterdrückung durch Mesopotamien
Die Jahre der 7 Unterdrückungsepochen (nicht in 1.Könige 6,1 mit eingerechnet) ˗
008 Jahre der Unterdrückung (Richter 3,8) Mesopotamien
018 Jahre der Unterdrückung (Richter 3,14) Moabiter
020 Jahre der Unterdrückung (Richter 4,2-3) Kanaaniter
007 Jahre der Unterdrückung (Richter 6,1) Midianiter
003 Jahre der Unterdrückung (Richter 9,1.22) Abimelech
018 Jahre der Unterdrückung (Richter 10,7-8) Ammoniter
040 Jahre der Unterdrückung (Richter 13,1) Philister
114 Jahre der 7 Unterdrückungsepochen. (werden in n 1.Könige 6,1 nicht mitgezählt)
336 Die Jahre der 12 Friedensepochen unter den Richtern: 040 Jahre Ruhe (Richter 3,11) Othniel 080 Jahre Ruhe (Richter 3,31) Schamgar
040 Jahre Ruhe (Richter 5,31) zur Zeit Deboras und Baraks
040 Jahre Ruhe (Richter 8,28) Gideon
023 Jahre Ruhe (Richter 10,1-2) Tola
022 Jahre Ruhe (Richter 10,3) Jair
006 Jahre Ruhe (Richter 12,7) Jephta
007 Jahre Ruhe (Richter 12,9) Ibzan
010 Jahre Ruhe (Richter 12,11) Elon
008 Jahre Ruhe (Richter 12,13.14) Abdon
040 Jahre (1.Samuel 4,18) Eli
020 Jahre (1.Samuel 7,2) Samuel
336 Jahre der 12 Friedensepochen unter den Richtern
40 Jahre Regierungszeit Sauls (Apostelgeschichte 13,21)
40 Jahre Regierungszeit Davids (1.Könige 2,11)
4 Jahre Regierungszeit Salomos bis zum Beginn des Tempelbaus (1.Könige 6,1)
= 466 Jahre gesamt.
(Die 114 Jahre Unterdrückung nicht mitgezählt)
14 Jahre
= x (ergeben sich aus der Differenz der 480 zu den 466 Jahren)
= 480 Jahre gemäß 1.Könige 6,1 (594 Jahre inkl. der 114 Jahre Unterdrückung)
From Kurt Wolfgang Becker, Biblische Chronologie der Menschheitsgeschichte
I think that ABR and Brian Wood are very biblically Biased that it affects their judgment on pottery typology. The majority of archaeologists which are professors in major universities do not believe that Joshua trumpeted and the walls came down. The latest archaeological reports of 15-year excavation by Lorenzo nigro.. he states Jericho was occupied throughout the late bronze Age 1550 to 1260 BCE . It seems to have been abandoned around 1260 BCE which would fit more with the late date Exodus. He also makes a statement in his journal report that Joshua is a myth. And this is 70 years after Kathleen Kenyon. It's not that I am biased towards the Bible or minimalist archeology. This is just what's in the latest archaeological reports.. So it's not just about Kathleen Kenyon. The only people that really have hung on to this Joshua epic are the Scooby gang ABR, Trinity Southwest University, Biola University and other fundamentalists. It's not just about Jericho. It's looking at areas that the Bible claims were conquered by the Israelites during the late bronze Age and if there's evidence for occupation in these sites. However, a lot of them only have occupation in the 8th century BCE. The Bible states that Israelites camped on the east side of the Jordan before crossing and later attacking Jericho. How much lake bronze Age pottery has been excavated in that area?. Especially in the area of tell el Hammam ? At this point, probably less than a dozen pieces. I really doesn't make it seem like there are millions or tens of thousands or hundreds that were camped in that area. This is archaeological evidence and facts not well-meaning sensationalism.
32:12
Prince Muhammad gold beach Oregon pharaoh from Egypt
Are you boycotting verbs?
T.R.U.T.H.❤
So it's obvious that it does not mean they did not undertake the journey then. You guys are sure to just refute the Godly and Biblical truth that they did...its just so miserable of you to do so.
We ''should" ALL be VERY careful what we say is 'true' from the Bible... God's word SHOULD not be taken lightly and assume /it's OK to teach your 'theory' or create ideas of facts. God's TRUTH lays in KEEPING to HIS laws >>. 7th dy Sabbath ONLY and not sunday or just any day...and all of HIS own ORDAINED HOly Days through out the year...they were NOT meant 'just' for jews...Judah wasn't even born when those commands were laid down...they are for ALL NATIONS from generation to generation forever and everrrr.... what mankind's MANMADE 'churches' fail to get it this >>> God the Father is the ONLY head honcho and JESUS the CHRIST is the ONLY Savior... they are NOT going to lay down '' COMMANDED LAWS " with the lame approach that it's ok to break these perfect laws ''just so long as" mankind keep an idea of the law...NO... those are commanded laws that God stands FIRM on YOU and ME >>>> KEEPING to the letter....not changing evven ONE speck of that law.
Your 15 minutes in and mostly been doing advertisements
...let's face it ....secular scholarship sucks
this is all old news
Was that tongue in cheek? It was posted over a year ago, so it's old news that way. It discusses excavations started a century ago, so that's old news. And it's news about people that lived 3.5 millennia ago, so it's news about old stuff that way too.
Yes, archaeology has proven it never happened. See how simple that was.
On the base of what?
@@Morewecanthink Archeology.
Read a real book
@@Morewecanthink Facts supported by verifiable evidence.
The Hebrews were just another Canaanite tribe living in the hills of Canaan,
Referring to the hills of Canaan
Dr William Dever: "We know today, from archeological investigation, that there were more than 300 early villages of the 13th and 12th century in the area. I call these "proto-Israelite" villages".
*This has been verified by archeologists*
i.e. Mazur, Na'aman, Finkelstein, Faust and Dever
courtesy of "thetorah"
Dr William Dever, an archaeologist normally associated with the more conservative end of Syro-Palestinian archaeology, has labeled the question of the historicity of Exodus “dead”. Israeli archaeologist Ze’ev Herzog provides his view on the historicity of the Exodus:[7]
The Israelites never were in Egypt. They never came from abroad. This whole chain is broken. It is not a historical one. It is a later legendary reconstruction - made in the seventh century [BCE] - of a history that never happened.
Verifying Dr Dever is the Merneptah Stele
Merneptah stele 1207BCE
The Egyptian army rolls through Canaan and the only Israelites they encounter are some people in the highlands that they scatter. No Israelite city states or cities. No great Israelite army to stop them. Just a people the Egyptians called Israel.
Now your evidence for Exodus?
@@fordprefect5304,
Clearly, you don't review facts objectively.
Cherry-picking researchers that agree with your pre-conceived notion isn't being serious.
@@EternalVisionToday So archeologist are lying and you have real verifiable facts.
You are upset when facts prove your make believe stories are just that..
Myths and legends are all you have.
How about this
There is zero evidence for any story in the bible until King Ahab and King David.
Even then the bible goes into legend mode.
i.e. Samson, Goliath, the Angel of Death.
Maybe you can prove me wrong.
I am from the 12 tribes of Israel im Māori my people came from Israel what rubbish you talk of
The Maori are 40,000 years old, The Ancient Israelites are only 3500 years old. The Maori are older and in whole different area of the world.
@@shainazion4073 lol Hawaiiki Nui Hawaiiki Roa Hawaiiki pamamoa you this verse nah I didn’t think 😝 bleh tu whare toa ,ngati Maniapoto, Tainui,Taranaki lost tribes of Ephraim son of Joseph keep ya mouth out of my ancestors basket of knowledge.
@@nickshow6876 You are being foolish. Again, the Maori people are tens of thousands of yesrs older than Israel, Canaan and the Natifians. You hsve a proud and incredible past history, whu would you want to steal others.
@@shainazion4073 lol foolish hahaha listen to yourself stealing others culture lol I just told you about Rata and Maui descendent from Ephraim came out of Egypt even the carvings back home verses left behind from the elders to remember each Island that leads back to Israel 🇮🇱 we are True people of judah come off both Joseph and Naphtali mixed sons of Jacob that went to the south seas us it’s in the tanak Hebrew Bible secret writings lol I have Irrefutable proof facts and maps as well as historical information and the wakakapapa to back up my claims that my tribe comes off tribe of Ephraim lost tribes of Israel .Noah Had 3 sons Ham Shem and Japheth both Shem and Ham were dark colours Ham black like the raven and Shem of dark colour olive or bronze light brown jasper and dark brown people .Japheth is the white colour skin European Indo Asia .what your saying pre dates all of these and before Noah .Don’t come talking shit with no proof facts and variable sources of information we are Gods chosen people of the 12 tribes of Judah.
Exodus is a myth
The exodus is not a myth , there's more than enough evidence . And I don't care what you think,
Because you don't care to know the truth because of your comment .
You're too damned lazy to search for the truth.
You are a fool in the desert dying of thirst sitting on a water well not knowing it's even there
You wished it were.
@James Lindon - What's your foundation for thinking and saying that?
Scientist and archeologist have done much to discredit themselves lately...kinda really don't care for thier corporate opinions any longer.