You DON'T Need a GPU to Game! - 8600G Gaming PC

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  • čas přidán 10. 09. 2024

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  • @wayde04
    @wayde04 Před 7 měsíci +204

    cant believe we've reached a point where 5200mhz is considered slow when just a few years ago 3200mhz was the sweet spot for ram speeds🤣

    • @kjvkygouhgiytgiugligvyhfvgyhl
      @kjvkygouhgiytgiugligvyhfvgyhl Před 7 měsíci +33

      Im still on 1600mhz.

    • @charliesretrocomputing
      @charliesretrocomputing Před 7 měsíci +20

      I'm on 3200mhz DDR4

    • @nonaurbizniz7440
      @nonaurbizniz7440 Před 7 měsíci +10

      Depending on the cpu and game 3600mhz is still the sweet spot for performance because going to any higher clocks has increasingly smaller fps gains. Memory speed just isn't as crucial to games as cpu speed. Games love high cpu clocks because thats were all the work is being done. It doesn't matter if the data can be shoveled faster into the cpu via higher clocked ram if it can't process it fast enough.

    • @sneakycactus8815
      @sneakycactus8815 Před 7 měsíci

      @@nonaurbizniz7440 some games do prefer higher mem speed like starfield. however, the vast majority of games still do not need major mem speed

    • @brentw8365
      @brentw8365 Před 7 měsíci +12

      RAM speed isn't linear when talking about different generations, since CAS latency increases. Final latency (ns) matters much more.

  • @MercyVS
    @MercyVS Před 7 měsíci +51

    12:26 minute video and only 2 games were tested, sad :(
    Before they tried more stuff

    • @Tegridy_Gaming
      @Tegridy_Gaming Před 5 měsíci +4

      FR, honestly baffled how they've tested 2 games in a "gaming" review

  • @user-uw9ir7fl8l
    @user-uw9ir7fl8l Před 7 měsíci +7

    another great content presentation , very much appreciated keeping up with the latest and great hardware that you can showcase/demonstrate.

  • @nonaurbizniz7440
    @nonaurbizniz7440 Před 7 měsíci +19

    Gamers nexus has found a power issue with these cpu in that with extended play at high loads the power draw will suddenly drop to half or less and tank performance. This doesn't seem to be a temperature issue.

    • @stdimov2000
      @stdimov2000 Před 7 měsíci +1

      and next Bios update will fix this.

    • @chaz-e
      @chaz-e Před 4 měsíci

      The driver update has been released for the fix

  • @davefroman4700
    @davefroman4700 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Ive got the 5700G in my system. its all I need but when the AM5 chips come down in cost in a couple years I will look at one of the newer APU's.

  • @centedits_
    @centedits_ Před 7 měsíci +10

    that cpu is better than my entire laptop 😢😥

  • @Oozaru85
    @Oozaru85 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Geez, you should really test these builds in more games than just Fortnite and Apex Legends. Just saying. Test it in proper games.

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol Před 7 měsíci +6

    This is EPIC! APUs are a game changer!

    • @OHCGAMEZ
      @OHCGAMEZ Před 7 měsíci

      my gpu is 1,356% better 💀💀

    • @SPdanig
      @SPdanig Před 5 měsíci

      @@OHCGAMEZCost?

  • @no_name900
    @no_name900 Před 7 měsíci +3

    A 12100F/5500 CPU build with an RX 6600 is about the same price with the correct parts. It has worse upgradeability for sure, but it destroys the 8600G in gaming

  • @Just_Call_Me_Tim
    @Just_Call_Me_Tim Před 5 měsíci +1

    I actually picked up a knock-off A01 case (like an HTPC case if you don't know the name), a B650i mb, and this APU for a little build I'm doing next week. I don't really game on the bigger, more demanding titles anymore, but for the retro games/emulators, and indie pixel art games that have had my interest for a while now, this seems perfect. I can't wait, though, as this is going to be the smallest build I've ever done and the first time I've used a Pico PSU.
    Thanks for the vid!

  • @ericreid8111
    @ericreid8111 Před 7 měsíci +6

    I actually needed that sponsor advertisement for once. I aint paying full price for windows

    • @vexnity460
      @vexnity460 Před 7 měsíci +2

      you can... obtain it in otherways for free

    • @voidcr215
      @voidcr215 Před 7 měsíci

      @@vexnity460how dawg

    • @kavishdaya9793
      @kavishdaya9793 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@vexnity460 Please mention how

  • @ChairmanMeow1
    @ChairmanMeow1 Před měsícem

    I built my friend a super budget PC with a 4600G and it can actually play 1080p at low/medium with no discreet GPU. And the chip itself is many years old. I was shocked.

  • @Fhjfjdjjdjddj
    @Fhjfjdjjdjddj Před 7 měsíci +4

    I'm building my own pc bc of you guys and I'm only 12

  • @randonkbay
    @randonkbay Před 7 měsíci +1

    McCallister that jazz flute was fireeee!

  • @donottouch9110
    @donottouch9110 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Can't wait for the 8700g with 6000mhz ram tests

  • @Mr._Cashbob
    @Mr._Cashbob Před 7 měsíci +1

    day 8
    I was in temu and found PC parts on there heres a list of them:
    GPU
    motherboard
    ram
    SSDs
    fans
    AIO
    case.
    I couldn't find a CPU but i would just use something a round the price of the GPU, I would also get accessories for the all temu setup. i would love to see this video come out. you guys are the best

  • @johnhudson7055
    @johnhudson7055 Před 7 měsíci +6

    Actually the sad thing about the new APUs is the number of PCIe lanes. When you’re ready for a GPU you’ll need a new CPU as well. But I’m looking forward to getting them to play with. Planning an 8700G build to put in my truck.

    • @floydlooney6837
      @floydlooney6837 Před 7 měsíci

      in your truck? OTR driver?

    • @thescoffe
      @thescoffe Před 7 měsíci +2

      The 8700g has 20 PCIe 4.0 lanes, enough for a GPU and an SSD. Also b650 boards have support for 36 PCIe 4.0 lanes, meaning anything else you put in will be handled at full speed by the mobo up to 36 lanes worth.

  • @MitchellKuykendall
    @MitchellKuykendall Před 3 měsíci

    Just built a 8700G rig today. For less than a Legion Go with slightly more power from the desktop class wattage I’m good with this until I can afford a graphics card.

  • @MusicHavenSG
    @MusicHavenSG Před 7 měsíci

    When 16GB 3Ghz RAM was considered fast for DDR4 RAM which what I was using for like 5 years, now I just doubled both the RAM Speeds and RAM Capacity to 32GB DDR5 at 6GHz.

  • @armandoa5468
    @armandoa5468 Před 7 měsíci +7

    I would suggest everyone take a look at Gamer Nexus video he release today in regards to Amd GPU before considering this build.

  • @ericyost5287
    @ericyost5287 Před 6 měsíci +1

    what 3v3 apex game mode is that? Looks like arenas but that mode was taken out.

  • @josephmills9031
    @josephmills9031 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Can you do a video on the 8700g also? Let us know if it is worth 100 more? For the extra 2 core 4 thread and the more powerful gpu.

    • @ToastyBros
      @ToastyBros  Před 7 měsíci

      watch our review video from yesterday :)

  • @ericreid8111
    @ericreid8111 Před 7 měsíci +1

    We should be seeing the newest cod, battlefield 2042, tekken 8, the newest FC game or newest madden, nba2k, a racing game like Forza, and then cyberpunk or horizon forbidden west
    A full assortment of benchmarks

    • @LegionGamingTV
      @LegionGamingTV Před 7 měsíci

      All these main stream channels focus on games nobody is interested in anymore.

  • @ommenerd3793
    @ommenerd3793 Před 7 měsíci

    Personally, the upgrade path is amazing. It's the main reason to choose these APUs

  • @lchanceiv
    @lchanceiv Před 7 měsíci +1

    I am not a gamer, but thinking about buying this for a small media (Plex)server. I think this will work fine. What do y'all think?

    • @fredoir1837
      @fredoir1837 Před 7 měsíci +1

      It will work since u just need the cpu and mobo. Goodluck building your pc

  • @namiya181
    @namiya181 Před 14 dny

    Theres a store selling a 8600g prebuid at 370$ but single stick of ram + 240gb ssd and also selling a 5600g prebuild at 280$ with single stick of ram + 480gb ssd... Both are still a killer value imo just their choice of psus are very questionable...

  • @princejohnson4491
    @princejohnson4491 Před 7 měsíci +3

    It says they will be released
    tomorrow

  • @GoSuperBullx
    @GoSuperBullx Před 7 měsíci +1

    Saw the title and had to see what’s up lol lets goooo

  • @ragingrat7670
    @ragingrat7670 Před 7 měsíci +1

    So what would be better 7800x3d or 8700g for gaming and for the price?

  • @asimplelifewoodworking8318
    @asimplelifewoodworking8318 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Could you do a video on a budget pc, that you can upgrade a newer gpu to for about the same price as the new AMD apu build price?

  • @jamesyoung151
    @jamesyoung151 Před 7 měsíci

    I'd use a CPU for a retro gaming build, but then again I have older machines for that.

  • @beanscornbread1381
    @beanscornbread1381 Před 2 měsíci

    Good option for amateur gamers like myself that rarely play. Hard to justify buying a dedicated GPU when you only play a few times a year

  • @evers6214
    @evers6214 Před 7 měsíci

    These chips will be fantastic in laptops and cheap prebuilts. I can see someone buying a $600 HP machine for basic tasks and as a bonus the kids being able to play modern games no problem.
    But performance doesn’t quite beat a $60 rx580 8gb (used) so Id recommend that to anyone building a tower on a budget

  • @zeidel01
    @zeidel01 Před 7 měsíci +1

    can you try with fsr/rsr/fluid frames

  • @PhonetoysTv
    @PhonetoysTv Před 7 měsíci

    hi sir im watching since 2019. my build is 3200g b450m 16gb 3200mhz and 450watts psu.
    what gpu can i go to for upgrade. im only youtube , valorant and csgo.. watching from taiwan. thank u

  • @nate2929
    @nate2929 Před 7 měsíci

    You guys should really make a pc video for using vr headsets with pc

  • @flowergreeeeed
    @flowergreeeeed Před 7 měsíci

    Good build. Prices are raging rn tho'.... Still, maybe one day but not today...

  • @joemorgan8436
    @joemorgan8436 Před 7 měsíci

    You can ride a Coleman 196cc Gas-Powered Mini Bike but it isn't anything like riding a Motorcycle. Gaming on an APU is akin to riding a mini bike.

  • @dargonzee9836
    @dargonzee9836 Před 3 měsíci

    Not bad, but I mean you can just get a 5500 and a RX 580 for like 190-210$ (for where Im at) this is brand new aswell. Yeah new gen and stuff but 5500 still rocks till this day.

  • @MB-qk2yz
    @MB-qk2yz Před 7 měsíci +1

    The apu does not support pcie4 x16 though right? Only x8?

    • @LegionGamingTV
      @LegionGamingTV Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah. The 8700g has the full 4.0x16 but the 8600g only has 4.0x8 which has the same bandwidth as 3.0x16

  • @cmja09
    @cmja09 Před 7 měsíci

    but why even go 8600G if we aint gonna use inwin chopin or some asrock deskmini kinda pc

  • @jacobthanos8171
    @jacobthanos8171 Před 4 měsíci

    Would it be able to run Minecraft shaders

  • @tommasolenci2840
    @tommasolenci2840 Před 7 měsíci +1

    These integrated GPUs are interesting for MINI PCs, not for Desktop PCs at least for me

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Před 7 měsíci

      You still need to fit a motherboard in a small PC case, and all such cases can fit a better performing GPU in.

    • @tommasolenci2840
      @tommasolenci2840 Před 7 měsíci

      @@Safetytrousers Hi, MINI PC are form factor like Apple MAC Mini can't fit discrete GPU inside

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Před 7 měsíci

      You would need custom boards made for such a device. Would there be a financial incentive for these to be made for a low powered gaming system?@@tommasolenci2840

  • @LiquidSnake690
    @LiquidSnake690 Před 7 měsíci

    The fastest cards I would pair with a Ryzen 5 8600G is either the RTX 4070 or RX 7800 XT because if you pair it with anything more powerful than that you'll get a pretty noticeable cpu bottleneck.

  • @pagongtertel
    @pagongtertel Před 5 měsíci

    is segotep psu really that reliable ?

  • @ANONYMOUS_VR-rb7ix
    @ANONYMOUS_VR-rb7ix Před 5 měsíci

    I want to get this and see how it is with a gt 620 and gtx 970

  • @Technocrat.
    @Technocrat. Před 7 měsíci

    Board makers should add a gddr6+ rem slot near cpu to add extended VRAM that APU can access at full gddr6+++ speeds. That is upgradadble to whatvever you need example 16gb.

    • @sircartdark
      @sircartdark Před 7 měsíci

      there would be no point, and it would just be more costly. They would most likely have to solder the modules onto the board to actually get high speeds, like the ones on GPUs.

  • @edwardwilliams3815
    @edwardwilliams3815 Před 7 měsíci

    Borken link for ram, it's showing ddr4 ram, fyi, great vid for those interested in AMD's new APU's/etc...always interested in seeing ddr5 ram prices, click link, get ddr4 lol, seeing as youre pushing a ddr5 platform, I hope you guys fix the link for those interested in this build and components. GG

  • @chipwitgaming
    @chipwitgaming Před 7 měsíci

    Yeah a

  • @leodraws1214
    @leodraws1214 Před 7 měsíci +2

    1 like 👍🏼 = 1 push-up 💪🏻

    • @jds6014
      @jds6014 Před 7 měsíci

      1 push-up bro

  • @Daddy-.-
    @Daddy-.- Před 7 měsíci

    could this still be used as a streaming pc?

  • @ksdkddko
    @ksdkddko Před 7 měsíci

    do you recommend segotep as a psu brand?

  • @JezyYT
    @JezyYT Před 7 měsíci

    Can these not be overclocked?

  • @masterswords7202
    @masterswords7202 Před 7 měsíci

    what about hypr-rx ? they said it should be enabled to beat the the gtx 1650

  • @raym7441
    @raym7441 Před 7 měsíci

    I looks like the link you guys have posted for the RAM are for DDR4. I'm pretty sure AM5 is DDR5 Only. You may want to change that so novice builders don't get confused.

  • @fuzzylumpkins6034
    @fuzzylumpkins6034 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The mobo and memory required to run these 250-300+ apu make the entire thing a pointless thing. AM4 chipset 450/550 mobo with a 3600/5600 and a 6700xt with 32gb DDR4 mem will easily carry every average gamer over the AM5 chipset and not require average gamers to get the components required to use these apus for so much less performance. These are for someone , more of a novelty but these will not even perform at the 6650xt level or price range.
    £120+ for the basement mobo
    £250-330+ for the 8600g/8700g cpu
    £60+ 16gb DDR5
    Before case/psu/ SSD you are already in deep water. These 3 components will build a B450M (Asrock is fire), RX 6650xt, 32gb DDR4, ryzen 5 3600, 1tb NvME, case, 750w psu and leave you with change back and room to upgrade or just carry over the AM5 chipset in 1080p happy as Larry.
    Thank you for the content.

    • @thescoffe
      @thescoffe Před 7 měsíci

      A mobo, 8600g and 16gb is only ~£350

  • @Reu_ag
    @Reu_ag Před 7 měsíci

    This apu plus ddr5 ram will cost you about $300 which is a terrible deal, when you ryzen 5 5600 plus 5500xt with ddr4 ram will cost less but give you much better performance

  • @Zombie101
    @Zombie101 Před 7 měsíci

    so the question is, which one is better to go for 8600g for 100 bucks less or the 8700? (for a small build with no room for gpu)

    • @zilverman7820
      @zilverman7820 Před 7 měsíci

      Just go with 5600x or 5700x then buy a 2nd hand gpu like rx 6600 or 1660 super you'll get better performance for gaming

    • @Zombie101
      @Zombie101 Před 7 měsíci

      hi, thanks i should have specified its an itx build with no room for a GPU@@zilverman7820

  • @Nico-yt8vf
    @Nico-yt8vf Před 7 měsíci

    Is there any way i can get in contact with you?

  • @james64468
    @james64468 Před 7 měsíci

    Maybe I should do APU at 1080p 60hz monitor. Just do that for pixel art games.

  • @Manatek
    @Manatek Před 7 měsíci

    How will it go video editing?

  • @Daddy-.-
    @Daddy-.- Před 7 měsíci

    hp victus line up team are watching this like "that's our build, hurry release it."

  • @rod-von
    @rod-von Před 7 měsíci

    How do we know who won the latest giveaway?

  • @elumalaim6857
    @elumalaim6857 Před 7 měsíci

    Why u dont play AAA games on builds like these?

  • @NoobShiesty
    @NoobShiesty Před 7 měsíci

    lol the 8:24 zestiness

  • @ScavengerFX
    @ScavengerFX Před 7 měsíci

    The 8600G only has 8 PCIE lanes for a graphics card, so be warned when upgrading.

  • @dragon2knight
    @dragon2knight Před 7 měsíci

    That ram speed is waaaaay off from what AMD recommends. 6000 is the minimum and 6400 is preferred. Otherwise, nice build.

  • @guttom
    @guttom Před 7 měsíci

    uh........ is xmp on? if it is then you should be about to get decent fps. if its in auto...... wtf

  • @r1gmail5
    @r1gmail5 Před 7 měsíci

    1060 with 3 gb ram (35 bucks) will fuck 8600g in games from all angles

  • @marvlouslie2053
    @marvlouslie2053 Před 2 měsíci

    The new APUs are still too expensive. The 5600g and the 5700g are far superior. I'm not convinced AM5 is worth it in the long run.

  • @yukiskyhawk101
    @yukiskyhawk101 Před 7 měsíci

    The bird is the word xD

  • @S13irvin
    @S13irvin Před 7 měsíci

    Would a arous elite b550 motherboard be able to run that?

  • @inGameweTrusted
    @inGameweTrusted Před 7 měsíci

    Still using my Apu A8 5600K 4 core 4 threads)

  • @yunoniko
    @yunoniko Před 7 měsíci +3

    I wish i could get a decent pc for 600 im js broke😭😭😭😭

    • @maikeru1156
      @maikeru1156 Před 7 měsíci

      You can build a decent pc for $600 just not a good prebuilt

    • @OhitzBrendon
      @OhitzBrendon Před 7 měsíci

      Crater just made a 600 dollar one and it was really good❤

    • @yunoniko
      @yunoniko Před 7 měsíci

      U lucky​@@OhitzBrendon

    • @OhitzBrendon
      @OhitzBrendon Před 7 měsíci

      ​@yunoniko and it was 600 dollars like you said

    • @Ashu-ze6sn
      @Ashu-ze6sn Před 7 měsíci +1

      You can make a good asf pc in 600$
      Get 5500 for around 100bucks and 16 gb ddr 4 ram
      You can probably get 6650xt in 600

  • @user-eh1vp3ev3c
    @user-eh1vp3ev3c Před 3 měsíci

    You shouldn't build a pc around this. Unless you can build it into a mini pc the resale value will be terrible.
    If you insist on going this route, get the cheapest motherboard you can find, buy some ram, and refurb an old office machine.
    Then you can at least sell the mb combo for close to what you paid. Otherwise you can buy compact 7840hs systems for very little $ that will run more efficiently, or you can install an actual graphics card and have something that will actually be useful.

  • @PapaVanTwee5
    @PapaVanTwee5 Před 7 měsíci +3

    "We smell." "We don't smell!" "We stink".

  • @thelocalespada5956
    @thelocalespada5956 Před 7 měsíci

    VR joined the chat. Don't try saying u can get VR to not run on 5 fps with integrated graphics

  • @mercyrain4445
    @mercyrain4445 Před 7 měsíci

    what is a APU? I've never heard of it.

    • @boradlp1796
      @boradlp1796 Před 7 měsíci

      Processor that has both CPU and GPU

  • @sidpablo
    @sidpablo Před 4 měsíci

    if it is not on par with a GTX 1060 it is not worth it....

  • @PinkyTech
    @PinkyTech Před 7 měsíci

    PCBROS 100 percent smells, you heard it from Matt....

  • @graywolf6192
    @graywolf6192 Před 7 měsíci

    When does this cpu get released?

  • @JayzBeerz
    @JayzBeerz Před 7 měsíci +2

    Nice ❤

  • @wolfzz1876
    @wolfzz1876 Před 7 měsíci

    At this time igpus is not a good deal you can get more powerful pc for 600 dollars have rx 6600 ryzen 5 5500 or ryzen 5 3600

  • @jordanwilhoit3683
    @jordanwilhoit3683 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Crazy how fast APU's developed 👀

  • @celestialbeing4767
    @celestialbeing4767 Před 7 měsíci

    Gaming and coding perfect for me.

  • @SubtoChoice
    @SubtoChoice Před 7 měsíci

    This aGPU runs better then my GPU

  • @PC_GAMING_AND_EMULATION
    @PC_GAMING_AND_EMULATION Před 7 měsíci

    I can' find any place selling the 8600g or the 8700g.

    • @LCJammer
      @LCJammer Před 7 měsíci

      cuz its not been released yet.

    • @fredoir1837
      @fredoir1837 Před 7 měsíci

      Give it a month or two, you will good to go

  • @jonjon3829
    @jonjon3829 Před 6 měsíci

    hynix p31 is much better than solidigm p41, I don't know how solidigm did it, but they made it worse.

  • @bp9854
    @bp9854 Před 7 měsíci

    this is like the same video u posted the other day nah?

  • @JohnBraman413
    @JohnBraman413 Před 7 měsíci

    when are they available?

    • @rickgeller6043
      @rickgeller6043 Před 7 měsíci

      Now. Click the link

    • @JohnBraman413
      @JohnBraman413 Před 7 měsíci

      @@rickgeller6043 there is nothing showing to buy them. see no links anywhere to buy them.

    • @Safetytrousers
      @Safetytrousers Před 7 měsíci

      That link doesn't result in either of these CPUs. @@rickgeller6043

  • @genofast2947
    @genofast2947 Před 7 měsíci

    Setup for Fortnite Minecraft Roblox ???

  • @muklisheffendi
    @muklisheffendi Před 7 měsíci

    What if .. add GPU ? 😮

    • @AzZulski
      @AzZulski Před 7 měsíci +1

      Then it will run better, this video is just for budget gaming purposes

  • @jc4446
    @jc4446 Před 7 měsíci

    My used r5 2600 I got for $35 and my mingzhou rx580 I got for 67$ runs better than this lol !!! Come on guys ….think we are peaking with these CPU’s ?

  • @lmili7097
    @lmili7097 Před 7 měsíci

    That chip has probs..amd is already making a patch

  • @ThisisDD
    @ThisisDD Před 7 měsíci

    8600G is totally worth it. 8700G is trash for the money

  • @desvousges4230
    @desvousges4230 Před 7 měsíci

    Gaming without a gpu would make me sad.

  • @gertjan1710
    @gertjan1710 Před 7 měsíci

    Its not the Latest and Greatest....Oh it is.

  • @joel_sxd2093
    @joel_sxd2093 Před 7 měsíci +1

    it feels illegal to be this early

  • @cks5148
    @cks5148 Před 7 měsíci

    R5 7500F + RX 6500XT much better performance and much lower price than this 8600G .

  • @rssszz7208
    @rssszz7208 Před 7 měsíci

    Mother board look like am4 😅