This is the exact kinda build I figured these GPU's are really meant for. I don't see them as "gaming" GPU's, but more like an All-In-One desktop that you can game on.
My main point being that "buy this now and get a GPU later" is always thrown around for these APU's. But in this case, where would a GPU fit? @@Potatobitz
Cannot thank you enough for these several 8600G and 8700G videos 👍 Nobody else is covering these superb Rdna3 APUs as extensively. Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.
Lately, I am less excited about the nerfed 8x PCIe 4.0 typical of these APUs. Still interesting chips but would like to see a version with 16x PCIe 5.0 slot. Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
@@helloukw Short version of a longer story: I have tried Steam Link, but I get a little too much latency than I care to deal with because of how my network is set up. I appreciate the idea though!
The price of a secondhend dedicated GPU and cheap CPU is a more affordable way to get BETTER performance than these new APU builds. The only reason you want these is to make a super compact, very light gaming build. Have you not watched ANY of the other videos covering these APU's?
You can get away with even smaller case as there are some cases with external laptop style power supply & internal adapter included. Some of them even have slot for slim optical drive, so you can have a true "old school" console / emulation station. It is crazy how easy building "a console sized" gaming PC has become. Also... am I the only one waiting for those new AMD APUs to be used in Minisforum motherboards ?
This series of chips is going to be in high demand. HP and Dell are going to be all over it. As will the likes of Walmart and the entire global south. Which is good news to a bottom feeder in the market like me. I know I will be able to find one in 3-4 years for $100 somewhere. And the price of AM5 parts will come down a lot by then too.
These are desktop APU's, so the likely hood of Minisforum or other MiniPC manufacturers in putting them in their little machines is highly unlikely, especially when they also have machines with the 780m iGPU available at more reasonable prices. A MiniPC with the 7840HS cpu is your best bang-for-your-buck and that isn't changing anytime soon. Maybe next year, but you're better off waiting for Zen5, laptop varients.
Also waiting for the Strix Point Halo to come out with the 40 CUs rumored. But if it does come out as they say in 2H 2024, then Minisforum should have them for pre-order in 2H 2025. Although, I keep reading how Minisforum is known to not update their motherboards. So one is hesitant to purchase something with that in mind.
This is about around I think almost $650 usd for almost everything the crazy part is you can just buy a beelink mini pc with the same igpu AMD Radeon 780M for almost the at around 600 with everything in it...... and its smaller the only con about going with beelink or a mini pc is that you cant swap out all the parts like the one prime is building.... if something happens to one of the pc parts you can just replace it decisions decisions lol nice work eta prime!
Can't wait for ASRock to make an AM5 version of the desk mini. Would make for a great tiny pc with loads of power at a reasonable price, as was the case with the original AM4 deskmini at the time.
at the moment I only use an APU and I don't feel like I'm missing anything. I play my game at 55FPS medium settings. and I play counterstrike just fine. There's an entire industry and market of people who DON'T play AAA games. for those people this is perfect. this is also perfect for internet cafes that want to let people play cs2 or Valorant. not everything has to be so high end. people have high end GPUs and still aren't the best at what they do. Intel and Nvidia have always left budget people behind.
Nice built, great review. Perhaps I missed it, but the only thing I would like to know is what this actually in total costs with the spec used in this video.
The APU part in the 8600G and 8700G sure could be better, judging by tests that others made. I really love the idea though, especially with SFF builds for gaming or just simple media consumption.
It's literally the best iGPU right now, Intel doesn't have anything remotely similar. But yeah, technically you're right, it could be better (and will be according to AMD's roadmap for 2025 and 2026)
Got the Beelink GTR7 7840hs (zen4+rdna2 laptop cpu fed desktop power) for 599.99 on amazon after coupon code. Friend asked for link and today its officially on sale for 599. same price as my coupon code. Gonna be awesome while im stuck in bed. My steamdeck has been great but can't play everything I want to, due to limitations.
@@zealwing 8 compute unit 8600g loses to 12 compute unit 7840hs.... And technically the laptop part has 2 more cores and 4 more threads.... Sure its a laptop part.... From AMDs website.... Default TDP: 35-54W AMD Configurable TDP (cTDP):35-54W So ALMOST a 65w part. The 8600g IS and 65w part. A 6/12-8 isnt gonna beat a 8/16-12 laptop part with a few extra watts.... His 8600g build is $660 before tax.... Where as I paid 599 for a faster PC that's already built, just plug and go....
HI goblin meant to say that you did great getting the beelink for 600..thats what I would have done....lol my wording came out wrong, @@goblinphreak2132
Yeah, but really annoying fan noise on mini pcs. Had a beelink gtr5, returned it insufferable. Also, every single part of the itx build is reusable or can be upgraded.
@@pranze3484 oh man that sucks but your right building one like this might’ve better when you can change your hardware anytime you want good luck on your next build.
Mini pcs tend to overheat a lot when gaming on them, theyre only for great web surfing and htpc purposes. Desktop apus however is great for those who dont want to worry about temperatures at high wattage performances.
This is very nice and all, but I wished that AMD would release a chip with 4 cores, quad threads, and the full 780m iGPU, rather than this cut down iGPU. A replacement is needed for the 2400G/3400G
Perfect for somebody like me. Old but tech savvy and not too much into games. Come to think about it, I would prefer a laptop built with the same or similar APU.
I find that the benchmark scores are useless if there's nothing to compare them to. As a noob doing research, it would be great to compare the scores with CPU/GPU in a similar price range or its competitor.
I would just like to thank you for how your audio starts out low and slowly ramps up to a comfortable level. Too many folks have their audio blaring loud at the start of their videos.
Imagine if they use CAMM standard on thin&light, mini pc and handheld. We can get a faster/similar ram speed with lower power consumption than standard lpddr.
@gingyman99 There are a lot of reasons. More upgradablity Bigger psu Bigger gpu Bigger cpu cooler Colder Quieter Flex psu cost more Mini itx case cost more Mini itx motherboard cost more
I might build myself something like this as my second machine and use the ser5 I'm using now for a low power server or something. It will be interesting to see what AMD comes out with once they move past the 780m, this isn't quite there yet for most gaming @1080p but it's not that far from it either.
I feel like this should be awesome. But for $600 you could build a banger pc for sure using used parts for that price. Only thing this is really good for is the novelty of being tiny.
The AMD Wraith Spire is 71 mm tall, while the AMD Wraith Stealth is 54 mm tall. it should fit according to the case description. "CPU cooler: no taller than 75mm when install a M.2 drive; no taller than 60mm when install a 2.5” SSD on top; no taller than 45mm when install a 3.5” HDD on top."
5:33 yesterday I had a lot to say about this video instruction....but now my head is cool and I can act without anger. Guys If you try to repeat this build measure everything twice, and it's better to PUT THE POWERSUPLY FIRST!! My ass was on fire...
Thanks for the videos, mate. Unfortunately, AMD's own cooler is not enough for this chip. I would definitely go for a decent cooler. Even mid-level ones make a difference around 20 °C. Also, don't forget that this APU has a good overclocking potential.
Yeah, they are expensive AF. When I did my ITX build I spend around 320 bucks on the cheapest ITX I could find. Sure Im not in USA, so maybe they are cheaper there, but its not a pick what you afford, its a pick what you find in stock situation.
@@helloukwexactly....there are some really disgusting pricings where I live xD To the point when getting a used RX570 and using FX8300 on AsRock 970M Pro3 motherboard is a dream come true XD
So approximately $650 overall for this build? I think I'd prefer to get a Minisforum mini PC instead. The UM790 Pro (which I have based on your review) is frequently on sale for about the same price and comes with a Ryzen 9 and 780M. Or you could build a nice AM4 platform with a dedicated GPU for less than 650 if you don't care about SFF.
Personally don't like mini pcs, but yes, if you're not terribly space constrained, like it's meant to sit near tv and not go in a backpack, m-atx cases like jonsbo d30 make a lot more sense, everything is suddenly much cheaper and better. Full size psu, cheap mobos etc. for about NR200P size.
ik the main point of APUs like these are all in one small form factor PCs. but would it be cool to use these with hopes of a future GPU? i was plannning to get this and make use of the integrated graphics until i get money again to splurge on a GPU
I was looking at this and made me wonder about their next graphics cards, which supposidly will have their npus on them like this apu has an npu on it. So taking the raytracing off of their stream processors and moving it to the npu... :S
Very great build. I exactly want to build this! But I highly recommend to use FSR instead of RSR if its possible. RSR is the solution if the game doesen't support FSR. Like Palworld for example.
@5GRobo doesn’t look so bad to me. I see you replying a lot that this is a waste, but could you really get that much performance out of a build with a gpu for the same price? Looks like this would be around 600 total and I feel like you could o my get a Ryzen 5 5000 series with a 6600xt for that and it doesn’t seem like that would be miles ahead of this. Take into account the form factor and everything and this seems pretty decent.
@@Crustenscharbap sure, and I want one eventually for home office when temps are high, and to bring to friends for couch gaming where 95% of what we play is indies or emulation. But at around 500€ overall, not 700+ :D
You're running this with just the APU, right? I'm wondering if I could get similar or better results from a less powerful CPU (a Ryzen 5 5500), but a more powerful dedicated video card.
GN did this with a 12100F and a RX6600. Totally blows the 8700G out of the competition.(let alone the 8600G) At these prices it's only desirable for small systems and then you pay a premium for the ITX mainboard also. (about 70 dollars in my country)
@Mosestylez you're telling me! I'm finishing up a graduate degree and I hold a full time job as a mental health professional. I don't have time for a life.
@@danielhulan3058 I also have a degree in economics, have a full time job, house etc, but at least mine life doesn't revolve around ETA prime's video 😅
@5GRobo no not cog in the machine. It's all about who hold what to be important. Who says that I don't already have a family that I am proud of while still getting these "meaningless toys". It's meaningless to you but it makes me happy.
Yeah, get a 7600, a low price mATX board some small case like the Jonsbo c6, DDR5 6000mhz(more than enuff) a normal psu and a used RX 6600 and you get better performance for less money in a computer that is still smaller than a PS5, just saying.
@o9758I have a flexguru 300W which seems to be just fine power wise, even with PBO and stress testing it doesn't rev up. It's not silent though, as in, if sensible to it, could be a bit annoying for home office. But for the way I use it (steam + yuzu couch gaming) I can't hear it at all sitting about 2-3 meters away from the TV. Btw yuzu is crazy good on this APU.
The problem here is presenting this apus as "gaming" parts while it's not. It makes excellent productivity machines in sff with low psu/cooling requirements and near silence, that can do a bit of gaming on indies/older titles/emulation. But it's not great gaming solutions.
Did you have to do anything special to get the 8600g to work with the a620i? I have a similar build but cant get this thing to post properly even after flashing the latest bios.
Bro, you don't buy this with a GFX. Just build a 12100f or a 12400f system. That's where the value is and with the money you save, you can get a good GPU.
Hi can you do a video review of this model kuycon monitor with full alternative choice on kuycon g34w vs kuycon P40U so you know if it's worth buying their monitor
Why doesn't Nvidia follow up on making more iGPUs? like the AMD AM3+ socket era, I once had the geforce6100 chipset and the performance of the iGPU 6150se was quite good at that time 😅
It was a one-two punch of AMD acquiring ATI and taking over the chipset market for their own CPUs, and Intel blocking them from making chipsets for anything newer than Core 2. Nvidia still technically makes IGPs, but only for ARM-based machines like the Switch or Jetson dev boards since they don't have an x86 license.
I would like to see the 8600g vs 7600 with say a 4070 super and/or 7900 xt and see what are the difference in fps at say 1440/4k. Basically is there a big difference between the two since the 7600 can be bought for about $30 less than the 8600g.
This is the exact kinda build I figured these GPU's are really meant for. I don't see them as "gaming" GPU's, but more like an All-In-One desktop that you can game on.
it get's 60 FPS or red dead
@@Potatobitz true
You can get 60fps on red dead for a LOT less though... if thats the goal.@@MauriceCool
My main point being that "buy this now and get a GPU later" is always thrown around for these APU's. But in this case, where would a GPU fit? @@Potatobitz
@@Ancient_West in a bigger case 😂 and if you meant literally, then for streamers and people that record their games for content. Always helps out
Cannot thank you enough for these several 8600G and 8700G videos 👍
Nobody else is covering these superb Rdna3 APUs as extensively.
Kindest regards, friends and neighbours.
Lately, I am less excited about the nerfed 8x PCIe 4.0 typical of these APUs. Still interesting chips but would like to see a version with 16x PCIe 5.0 slot.
Kindest regards, neighbours and friends.
man ive had the same old build since 2019, and you get to build something new everyday! you are truly blessed @ETA PRIME
I'm considering making one of these GPU-less PC's for my living room so I don't have to spend an arm/leg on a secondary comp. Thanks for the build!
Have you tried steam link? Stream your Steam games to living room from the main PC.
how about non steam games and delay?@@helloukw
@@helloukw Short version of a longer story: I have tried Steam Link, but I get a little too much latency than I care to deal with because of how my network is set up. I appreciate the idea though!
The price of a secondhend dedicated GPU and cheap CPU is a more affordable way to get BETTER performance than these new APU builds. The only reason you want these is to make a super compact, very light gaming build.
Have you not watched ANY of the other videos covering these APU's?
Paying ITX tax and an expensive AMD CPU to save on a cheap GPU makes very little sense.
You can get away with even smaller case as there are some cases with external laptop style power supply & internal adapter included. Some of them even have slot for slim optical drive, so you can have a true "old school" console / emulation station. It is crazy how easy building "a console sized" gaming PC has become. Also... am I the only one waiting for those new AMD APUs to be used in Minisforum motherboards ?
This series of chips is going to be in high demand. HP and Dell are going to be all over it. As will the likes of Walmart and the entire global south. Which is good news to a bottom feeder in the market like me. I know I will be able to find one in 3-4 years for $100 somewhere. And the price of AM5 parts will come down a lot by then too.
These are desktop APU's, so the likely hood of Minisforum or other MiniPC manufacturers in putting them in their little machines is highly unlikely, especially when they also have machines with the 780m iGPU available at more reasonable prices. A MiniPC with the 7840HS cpu is your best bang-for-your-buck and that isn't changing anytime soon. Maybe next year, but you're better off waiting for Zen5, laptop varients.
Also waiting for the Strix Point Halo to come out with the 40 CUs rumored. But if it does come out as they say in 2H 2024, then Minisforum should have them for pre-order in 2H 2025.
Although, I keep reading how Minisforum is known to not update their motherboards. So one is hesitant to purchase something with that in mind.
This is about around I think almost $650 usd for almost everything the crazy part is you can just buy a beelink mini pc with the same igpu AMD Radeon 780M for almost the at around 600 with everything in it...... and its smaller the only con about going with beelink or a mini pc is that you cant swap out all the parts like the one prime is building.... if something happens to one of the pc parts you can just replace it decisions decisions lol nice work eta prime!
Just because it's the "same" IGPU model doesn't make it have similar performance
Can't wait for ASRock to make an AM5 version of the desk mini. Would make for a great tiny pc with loads of power at a reasonable price, as was the case with the original AM4 deskmini at the time.
at the moment I only use an APU and I don't feel like I'm missing anything. I play my game at 55FPS medium settings. and I play counterstrike just fine. There's an entire industry and market of people who DON'T play AAA games. for those people this is perfect. this is also perfect for internet cafes that want to let people play cs2 or Valorant. not everything has to be so high end. people have high end GPUs and still aren't the best at what they do. Intel and Nvidia have always left budget people behind.
This 100%. Thanks.
At this point, I think even the 8700G can handle AAA games at 1080 with low settings. Once you're in the game, I don't think graphics matter that much
Nice built, great review. Perhaps I missed it, but the only thing I would like to know is what this actually in total costs with the spec used in this video.
Not worth it.
at least 600 dollars.
Light gamers and prob for those looking for a low power build. This actually saves so much $
Excited for next year tbh
Would love to see the 8600g or 8700g build with steam os. To see how it plays and interested build my self in the coming months
i built this unit, runs Elden Ring really good.
This one has only a 760M GPU. A much smaller mini-pc with Ryzen 7840HS and Radeon 780m is faster for gaming.
Inwin has an all in one case with PSU and it’s perfect for this kind of build.
Could you please test ChimeraOS with this 8600G or 8700G?
That's the review I'm waiting on with these APUs
another cool PC Build Guidance 3> Wondering if images like batocera working on that builds drivers etcs.
This is good for the new console players jumping to PC.
The APU part in the 8600G and 8700G sure could be better, judging by tests that others made.
I really love the idea though, especially with SFF builds for gaming or just simple media consumption.
It's literally the best iGPU right now, Intel doesn't have anything remotely similar. But yeah, technically you're right, it could be better (and will be according to AMD's roadmap for 2025 and 2026)
Got the Beelink GTR7 7840hs (zen4+rdna2 laptop cpu fed desktop power) for 599.99 on amazon after coupon code. Friend asked for link and today its officially on sale for 599. same price as my coupon code. Gonna be awesome while im stuck in bed. My steamdeck has been great but can't play everything I want to, due to limitations.
Yeah this build right here is about the same as the beelink on sale at 599 good deal
@@zealwing 8 compute unit 8600g loses to 12 compute unit 7840hs.... And technically the laptop part has 2 more cores and 4 more threads.... Sure its a laptop part....
From AMDs website....
Default TDP: 35-54W
AMD Configurable TDP (cTDP):35-54W
So ALMOST a 65w part. The 8600g IS and 65w part. A 6/12-8 isnt gonna beat a 8/16-12 laptop part with a few extra watts....
His 8600g build is $660 before tax.... Where as I paid 599 for a faster PC that's already built, just plug and go....
HI goblin meant to say that you did great getting the beelink for 600..thats what I would have done....lol my wording came out wrong, @@goblinphreak2132
Yeah, but really annoying fan noise on mini pcs. Had a beelink gtr5, returned it insufferable.
Also, every single part of the itx build is reusable or can be upgraded.
@@pranze3484 oh man that sucks but your right building one like this might’ve better when you can change your hardware anytime you want good luck on your next build.
Mini pcs tend to overheat a lot when gaming on them, theyre only for great web surfing and htpc purposes. Desktop apus however is great for those who dont want to worry about temperatures at high wattage performances.
This is very nice and all, but I wished that AMD would release a chip with 4 cores, quad threads, and the full 780m iGPU, rather than this cut down iGPU. A replacement is needed for the 2400G/3400G
@@RM-el3gw There exists 8300g it is just too hard to get it...
Flashing the motherboard is simple. Don't let it scare you off if you are interested in this build.
Emulation video for the 8600g please.
Yes.
yes please
Perfect for somebody like me. Old but tech savvy and not too much into games. Come to think about it, I would prefer a laptop built with the same or similar APU.
I miss when this channel did budget emulation videos. Now it’s just expensive pc builds.
Hey ETA Prime ! Can you consider doing a simple speedometer, jmeter tests on these PCs with the 8000 series ?
That case isn't bad, that extra slot on the top rear I can use it for a power plug to connect external hard drives to.
I find that the benchmark scores are useless if there's nothing to compare them to.
As a noob doing research, it would be great to compare the scores with CPU/GPU in a similar price range or its competitor.
I would just like to thank you for how your audio starts out low and slowly ramps up to a comfortable level. Too many folks have their audio blaring loud at the start of their videos.
Imagine if they use CAMM standard on thin&light, mini pc and handheld. We can get a faster/similar ram speed with lower power consumption than standard lpddr.
Tiny and mini pcs are the future of a Pc gaming! 😮
Yeah, I don't understand why people buy/make large size PC. They both got the same power and plus it saves desk space
@@gingyman99 none of those "mini gpus" are considered high end or hell midrange.
@gingyman99
There are a lot of reasons.
More upgradablity
Bigger psu
Bigger gpu
Bigger cpu cooler
Colder
Quieter
Flex psu cost more
Mini itx case cost more
Mini itx motherboard cost more
@@gingyman99 people have relentless pursuit of utmost performance. Therefore Tower PCs never die.
brokie tell me u homeless without telling me u homeless@@gingyman99
Nice video Thank you
I might build myself something like this as my second machine and use the ser5 I'm using now for a low power server or something. It will be interesting to see what AMD comes out with once they move past the 780m, this isn't quite there yet for most gaming @1080p but it's not that far from it either.
I feel like this should be awesome. But for $600 you could build a banger pc for sure using used parts for that price. Only thing this is really good for is the novelty of being tiny.
Really tempted by something like this but I feel like strix will offer a better 1080p experience.
Such a great walk through
Its crazy that APU's are now able to run Cyberpunk 2077 that well
Nice video, thanks
4:13: I didn't understand:
Wraith Spire cooler fits this case or not?
The AMD Wraith Spire is 71 mm tall, while the AMD Wraith Stealth is 54 mm tall.
it should fit according to the case description. "CPU cooler: no taller than 75mm when install a M.2 drive; no taller than 60mm when install a 2.5” SSD on top; no taller than 45mm when install a 3.5” HDD on top."
I can’t wait for it come out in a laptop form
Those PSUs only have a 6 month warranty which you only find out upon request, or, only 30 day return (from invoice being produced)
5:33 yesterday I had a lot to say about this video instruction....but now my head is cool and I can act without anger.
Guys If you try to repeat this build measure everything twice, and it's better to PUT THE POWERSUPLY FIRST!! My ass was on fire...
The whole AMD sales pitch seems to be : Lets make the 8700G ridiculous expensive to make the 8600G look less expensive. But it still is.
Exactly! Really disappointing stuff, I thought we'd at least get impressive performance, but it's not here.
Do you guys think the difference in performance will be relevant if using 6000 RAM instead of 6400?
Could you please make a video with ChimeraOS with the 8600G/8700G, it would be interesting to see how it performs. And as always a great video
Are you going to put out the video with the 8200mt Viper ram for the 8700G or was it bait ????
Next time please add Wuthering waves gameplay plz.
Thanks for the videos, mate. Unfortunately, AMD's own cooler is not enough for this chip. I would definitely go for a decent cooler. Even mid-level ones make a difference around 20 °C. Also, don't forget that this APU has a good overclocking potential.
Porbably more prudent to upgrade to a 8700G instead of spending extra on a little faster RAM if you want more graphics performance.
When will AMD realize that the best integrated graphics are not needed on top processors!! It is needed on budget and medium-budget!
13%off at 129 bucks on Amazon for the mobo. Not bad
You should make a build with a fighter jet pilot switch for a tiny but powerful itx lol
bring on the asrock desk mini for AM5, perfect for this apu!
Not with its 120W psu, gonna blow off.
Power consumption idle ?
Can you run Spyro Reignited on this with mid or high settings?
Maybe you can do a comparison video between the minisforum um780 xtx and the new 8000 series apu's.
Do not use the Aptiva 300 watt power supply use the 450 watt power supply. The one I had burned up.
am5 itx boards are way to expensive, i dont even understand this prices makes no sense at all
same with CPUs....where I am, any AM5 CPU/APU costs at least twice the price of a motherboard
Yeah, they are expensive AF. When I did my ITX build I spend around 320 bucks on the cheapest ITX I could find. Sure Im not in USA, so maybe they are cheaper there, but its not a pick what you afford, its a pick what you find in stock situation.
@@helloukwexactly....there are some really disgusting pricings where I live xD
To the point when getting a used RX570 and using FX8300 on AsRock 970M Pro3 motherboard is a dream come true XD
So approximately $650 overall for this build? I think I'd prefer to get a Minisforum mini PC instead. The UM790 Pro (which I have based on your review) is frequently on sale for about the same price and comes with a Ryzen 9 and 780M. Or you could build a nice AM4 platform with a dedicated GPU for less than 650 if you don't care about SFF.
Yup, this build makes no sense except it's cute.
Personally don't like mini pcs, but yes, if you're not terribly space constrained, like it's meant to sit near tv and not go in a backpack, m-atx cases like jonsbo d30 make a lot more sense, everything is suddenly much cheaper and better. Full size psu, cheap mobos etc. for about NR200P size.
ik the main point of APUs like these are all in one small form factor PCs. but would it be cool to use these with hopes of a future GPU? i was plannning to get this and make use of the integrated graphics until i get money again to splurge on a GPU
Sup Prime! Would having 64gb ddr5 at 6400mt/s help or is the mt/s the 'bottleneck' if you will?
Cheers for the videos pal!
I was looking at this and made me wonder about their next graphics cards, which supposidly will have their npus on them like this apu has an npu on it. So taking the raytracing off of their stream processors and moving it to the npu... :S
What's the fastest ram speed you can get with this Gigabyte A620i and which ram module did you use?
im gonna save some money for this build.
can the case add a vertical riser for small gpu?
Can you show how well this build works with ChimeraOS (both with standard Steam Library and emulators)?
Isn't that similar fps to gtr7 pro or um 790 pro?
Yeah, I'd think so. The only real difference would be the option of upgrading down the road.
Hey, do you know if there are any aftermarket fans that will fit and might give better performance?
I've a question. Is Radeon Super Resolution available in this apu or all amd apus?
I noticed this case has a bracket for a single slot GPU. If you put in an RX 6400, how would it compare to the iGPU?
Very great build. I exactly want to build this!
But I highly recommend to use FSR instead of RSR if its possible. RSR is the solution if the game doesen't support FSR. Like Palworld for example.
Waste of money
@5GRobo doesn’t look so bad to me. I see you replying a lot that this is a waste, but could you really get that much performance out of a build with a gpu for the same price? Looks like this would be around 600 total and I feel like you could o my get a Ryzen 5 5000 series with a 6600xt for that and it doesn’t seem like that would be miles ahead of this. Take into account the form factor and everything and this seems pretty decent.
Dude, 6600xt is 2-3x faster. A ryzen 3600 would be plenty enough for it. And 16G ddr4 costs nothing.
@@pranze3484 Right and it doesn’t need so much electricity. I habe a 5600G and a RX6600. Runs like a rocket. But this PC is interesting
@@Crustenscharbap sure, and I want one eventually for home office when temps are high, and to bring to friends for couch gaming where 95% of what we play is indies or emulation. But at around 500€ overall, not 700+ :D
I like the AMD 8000 series CPU, but the price is too high and DDR5 RAM is still expensive, maybe in 1 year it will make sense and it will be cheaper.
You're running this with just the APU, right? I'm wondering if I could get similar or better results from a less powerful CPU (a Ryzen 5 5500), but a more powerful dedicated video card.
GN did this with a 12100F and a RX6600. Totally blows the 8700G out of the competition.(let alone the 8600G) At these prices it's only desirable for small systems and then you pay a premium for the ITX mainboard also. (about 70 dollars in my country)
Yeah, otoh the case is about 35, that's really cheap. ITX mobos prices are maddening in EU though, 200€ for this 129$ board... Wtf.
I appreciate you going budget.. good job bro
lol, this is not budget at all for what you end up with.
@@5GRobo yeah lol, noticed when i saw the cpu price
My life revolves around eta prime video releases. I love your handheld and egpu videos. I'm looking to get an egpu for my Legion Go.
Dam man... You need to find a new life, asap!
@Mosestylez you're telling me! I'm finishing up a graduate degree and I hold a full time job as a mental health professional. I don't have time for a life.
@@danielhulan3058 I also have a degree in economics, have a full time job, house etc, but at least mine life doesn't revolve around ETA prime's video 😅
@@danielhulan3058 Cog in the machine! Build a family you could be proud of instead of these meaningless toys.
@5GRobo no not cog in the machine. It's all about who hold what to be important. Who says that I don't already have a family that I am proud of while still getting these "meaningless toys". It's meaningless to you but it makes me happy.
Hey. do you think this board can support the new vipers ram 7200mhz ?
Bios updates via usb with no cpu or a non compliant but compatable cpu , should have been a standard 20 years ago !
Yeah, get a 7600, a low price mATX board some small case like the Jonsbo c6, DDR5 6000mhz(more than enuff) a normal psu and a used RX 6600 and you get better performance for less money in a computer that is still smaller than a PS5, just saying.
Could a LP GPU fit in here and if so do you have any recommendations for that?
What GPU would you even pair with the 8700G?
None. Makes no sense. Just get a 3600 or something.
The A09 can support a LP GPU tho... could you put one in there veen with that large 54mm cooler?
Hi, I have a request. Could you try it as a media center ? I want to know if it can run smoothly 4k av1 and beyond
Would the stock cooler of the 8700G fit in that case?
I wouldn't touch that "300W" Chinese relabelled flex psu with a 10 foot pole... Especially considering the price of am5.
any recommendation on flex PSUs?
@o9758I have a flexguru 300W which seems to be just fine power wise, even with PBO and stress testing it doesn't rev up. It's not silent though, as in, if sensible to it, could be a bit annoying for home office. But for the way I use it (steam + yuzu couch gaming) I can't hear it at all sitting about 2-3 meters away from the TV. Btw yuzu is crazy good on this APU.
If it cost anywhere near a ps5 or Xbox series x it’s not worth unless for web browsing which the series x can
Finally somebody with a brain in the comment section.
The problem here is presenting this apus as "gaming" parts while it's not. It makes excellent productivity machines in sff with low psu/cooling requirements and near silence, that can do a bit of gaming on indies/older titles/emulation. But it's not great gaming solutions.
I do wonder how FFXIV runs on that.. and what benchmark score it gets.
how loud is the power supply thought?
Does this product really not need a power supply, is that even possible? I thought it was supposed to have a power supply all the time.
Did you have to do anything special to get the 8600g to work with the a620i? I have a similar build but cant get this thing to post properly even after flashing the latest bios.
Does Gigabyte RTX 4060 LP fit with this setup?/
If I were to buy this or 8700G what’s a good GFX card to pair with this. I’m running an i7-3770 and 1660 Super.
Bro, you don't buy this with a GFX. Just build a 12100f or a 12400f system. That's where the value is and with the money you save, you can get a good GPU.
Can we make a 1L mini pc with this cpu.. Something like 1l lenovo thinkcentre tiny ?
Hi can you do a video review of this model kuycon monitor with full alternative choice on kuycon g34w vs kuycon P40U so you know if it's worth buying their monitor
No
Pls do this too with the 8500g
Why doesn't Nvidia follow up on making more iGPUs? like the AMD AM3+ socket era, I once had the geforce6100 chipset and the performance of the iGPU 6150se was quite good at that time 😅
It was a one-two punch of AMD acquiring ATI and taking over the chipset market for their own CPUs, and Intel blocking them from making chipsets for anything newer than Core 2. Nvidia still technically makes IGPs, but only for ARM-based machines like the Switch or Jetson dev boards since they don't have an x86 license.
any recommendation for flex psu? i couldn't find one. any link from aliexpress i would appreciate it or amazon ofc
will you be testing the r5 8500g too
I would like to see the 8600g vs 7600 with say a 4070 super and/or 7900 xt and see what are the difference in fps at say 1440/4k. Basically is there a big difference between the two since the 7600 can be bought for about $30 less than the 8600g.
Yeah, 7600 will be about 3x faster
Do you sell your builds afterwards?
I just built this unit using the parts listed below. I have questions.;
Can you list the power supply you used in the video? The one listed works fine but it is so messy it the case.
Thanks for the vidéo! Does someone have an idea of the max power consumption at full load and the idle power consumption?