Beware: Counterfeit Intel CPU Scam on Used Market

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  • čas přidán 19. 05. 2024
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    We're talking about a scam on the used/second-hand CPU market that seems to primarily affect Intel CPUs. Scammers are rebranding lower-end parts as high-end CPUs, then vanishing after the sale. One of our viewers was scammed out of $500 for a 12900KS, so we bought it off of the viewer to see how the scam worked. This shows tricks both physically and digitally that you can use to verify whether a CPU is counterfeit -- and of course, the physical ones are most important as they can reveal a fake CPU before you even buy it.
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    TIMESTAMPS
    00:00 - Counterfeit CPUs
    02:09 - GPU Scams
    04:10 - The CPU Scam
    05:24 - Software Proof of a Fraud
    06:06 - Intel Official Validation Check
    08:15 - How the Text Vanishes
    10:00 - Physical Identifiers of Scam CPUs
    11:41 - Serial Number Identification Tools
    15:17 - BUT WHY?! (& Intel Comment)
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  • @GamersNexus
    @GamersNexus  Před rokem +125

    Find our recent i5-13400F CPU review over here! czcams.com/video/AdvWGEzYqg4/video.html

    • @henrythegreatamerican8136
      @henrythegreatamerican8136 Před rokem

      I often wonder if AMD and INTEL create these scam secondary markets to scare people into buying the real thing at inflated new prices.

    • @DethNade
      @DethNade Před rokem +1

      DO they have somthing like this for AMD? i would love to see if my CPU is real.

    • @KavorkaDesigns
      @KavorkaDesigns Před rokem +1

      How to correctly reset a fake drive to its correct size? I used to have a tool(a GUI app) I came across on a forum I blv, I think it was made for SD cards at the time but do believe it also worked for harddrives as well iirc, it allowed me to edit things that the WinOS can't see, even under Linux it wasn't possible. No idea what it was called( I faintly recall just a few of the Chinese symbols and maybe a couple digits in the title). -Have you heard of this or used such? I think you should cover it in a video.. I should have a copy here but I have 25yrs of data hording, randomly fit onto drives as space was needed, many files corrupted, another great idea, how to properly restore data(i.e. repair data-streams/file-types, or have you covered it lately?.. I'm only as of late started folder naming, dating, and attempting to sort & properly store the data, but may be awhile before I find the items I want. Thnx in advance

    • @Justacapybara9000
      @Justacapybara9000 Před rokem +4

      You're a good man for just accepting the scam product from a viewer you probably made his year 500$ is not a small amount

    • @Satou-Akira71
      @Satou-Akira71 Před rokem

      thx for the tip will improve my counterfeits immediately

  • @iancurrie8844
    @iancurrie8844 Před rokem +2591

    TWIST: there was no original scammer and the guy you paid $500 to is the actual scammer.

  • @clansome
    @clansome Před rokem +506

    2022 - "Unlaunched" enters the vocabulary
    2023 - "Unscammed" enters the vocabulary
    Nice one Steve.

    • @contra1124
      @contra1124 Před rokem +50

      Thanks, Steve. Back to you, Steve.

    • @mikeh6286
      @mikeh6286 Před rokem +7

      Thank you Papa.......

    • @josefmazzeo6628
      @josefmazzeo6628 Před rokem +1

      Probably one of the few times in human history someone has been "unscammed" ...and still trying to figure out how you can unlaunch something.

    • @clansome
      @clansome Před rokem +1

      @@josefmazzeo6628 If it's not actually launched it can be unlaunched. It's the opposite of these announcements of announcements of launches that we've been getting these last few years.
      Maybe that's why they do them so they have the opportunity to walk back the launch if needed.

  • @Makerr8
    @Makerr8 Před rokem +965

    Another tip: if you request a photo of the CPU, do a reverse image search of the picture they send. If it comes back with a source, you know they're trying to scam you.

    • @Jammermaker
      @Jammermaker Před rokem +90

      For almost anything you're buying online that's a good trick to know.

    • @IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature
      @IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Před rokem +30

      @@Jammermaker Though sometimes they are selling the real thing but just stole images because people are lazy.

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 Před rokem +144

      "Wait a second... this source image is _my_ CPU... and _my house."_

    • @flyingtentacle7631
      @flyingtentacle7631 Před rokem +22

      Either that or they just cbf to play silly games with you. I always use google images when people request more images for things I have listed on local market places. Like, fuck, I'm way too lazy to take more pics for some random guy on craigslist who probably can't afford to buy anything until his next paycheck anyways.
      Just meet up at a local PC shop and either bring your computer with you, or pay the shop to test it. They will absolutely have no problem doing this, and don't charge much for it.

    • @NegativeROG
      @NegativeROG Před rokem +3

      VERY good idea. Wish I'd thought of that. Three thumbs up.

  • @Misaka15539
    @Misaka15539 Před rokem +371

    There is another method of doing this: IHS swapping. They would buy, say a 12900K from a retailer and get a cheapo CPU like G6900 somewhere else, swap their IHSs, then return the G6900 as the 12900k, and profit from it. It happened as far back as 2014 in China on a retail site called JD. They changed their return policy after this and Intel was involved as well so I suspect that's when they added the validation check.

    • @IronArmPanda
      @IronArmPanda Před rokem +56

      People do the same thing with GPUS on Amazon, switch coolers and stickers and return for profit. A couple years ago I bought a new GTX 980ti and it turned out to be a 970, gonna guess it was a restock on a scam return.

    • @PDXCustomPCS
      @PDXCustomPCS Před rokem +18

      @@IronArmPanda Amazon will also block the hell out of you ever shopping with them again if you get caught. Guess you can use mommy's CC and address if the scammer has moved out. 😆

    • @U1TR4F0RCE
      @U1TR4F0RCE Před rokem +23

      I believe that was also done with AMD cpus a while back as there was a Linus Tech Tips video about someone having that happen to them.

    • @drkirbkennethkirby7634
      @drkirbkennethkirby7634 Před rokem +3

      I used to do this to wal mart/best buy with 360s I couldn't fix the red ring on. Found a way to open without damaging the seal, and could reattach it easily

    • @a120068020
      @a120068020 Před rokem +4

      I suppose you wouldn't always have to return if you, as a scammer, wanted a i9 12900k but didn't care what was on the IHS - you could swap it with a G6900 and sell the fake 12900k with the swapped IHS - get a huge part of your cost covered by the scam... off to buy a couple of CPUs thanks for the idea ;)

  • @asm_nop
    @asm_nop Před rokem +208

    A couple minor corrections at 12:15. The S-Spec codes are alphanumeric, and there can be several codes for a particular CPU model. Engineering sample chips are 4-digits, production CPUs are 5-digits. The S-Spec gets changed if there is a revision of the silicon. For example: the i9-9900KF is SRFAA or SRG1A for production, and QRK0 or QRN6 for engineering samples.
    CPU-World is a great web resource for this.

    • @meatbleed
      @meatbleed Před rokem +15

      Glad intel was able to keep it simple

    • @TricksterRad
      @TricksterRad Před rokem +3

      @@meatbleed to be fair, you the customer usually are more interested in the 9900KF part, and less in the SRFAA/SRG1A part.

  • @RylTheValstrax
    @RylTheValstrax Před rokem +72

    I've seen videos on 'fake' AMD cpus, where they would delid a broken cpu (usually one with destroyed pins) and then attach the lid to a cheap cpu and sell it for a profit. Theres also a couple of other cases where they used really old or intel cpus with a ryzen cpu 'sticker' on top... including one "threadripper" that was made out of 4 old intel cpus shoved into a threadripper box and then returned to amazon.

    • @RiceCrustyTreat
      @RiceCrustyTreat Před rokem +1

      That doesn't sound right. If it's broken and they're swapping it w the same CPU why would they need to swap the ihs if they're selling the broken one anyways. Plus anyone should be looking at the pins of a cou before purchasing...

    • @rata536
      @rata536 Před rokem

      @@RiceCrustyTreat 1) Buy cheap destroyed CPU (Athlon 2 or Phenom 2).
      2) Buy a cheap CPU (Sempron).
      3) Swap the IHS
      4) Sell the Sempron with the Phenom 2 IHS, as a Phenom 2.

    • @mvanderplas2275
      @mvanderplas2275 Před rokem +11

      No you're not understanding him. He saying the scammer has a broken higher end cpu. They delid it to get the lid. Then they buy a cheap cpu from the same generation and swap the lid on the cheap cpu to sell it as if it is the high end one. This scam might also work with intel, but definately it has been done with ryzen. No pins will be bent on the cheap cpu so they can show you that easily.

  • @christophermullins7163
    @christophermullins7163 Před rokem +39

    GN just got scammed for $460 by a clever viewer.

    • @gearfriedtheswmas
      @gearfriedtheswmas Před rokem +2

      More like we go scammed for watching.

    • @someguy9175
      @someguy9175 Před rokem +15

      I mean, this video probably made them away more than $460 usd and the video is actually entertaining, so, even if it was a double agent scam(lmao) everyone won, i guess

    • @viscountalpha
      @viscountalpha Před rokem +3

      But it enriches all of us. That's more valuable if it stops people from scamming.

  • @thomasgiles2876
    @thomasgiles2876 Před rokem +16

    Love the Ditto cameo in the video about fakes.
    A good sign that your CPU is fake; instead of your CPUs eyes looking like this 👀 they look like this °°

  • @siliconalleyelectronics187

    This type of scam has been around for a long time. Certain processors like AMD units are a lot easier as they are identical from the outside other than the markings. There are a lot of fake 5950x's and 9900k's out there.

    • @louistournas120
      @louistournas120 Před rokem +8

      I guess most people forgot the Pentium era of 1997. The CPUs were never multiplier locked. You put the CPU on the motherboard and you setup jumpers to select which clock speed you want for the motherboard and what multiplier you want for the CPU.
      For example, for a 100 MHz Pentium, you set the motherboard at 66.6 MHz. You set the multiplier at 1.5x. The CPU would be at 100 MHz.
      Some people found out that their 100 MHz Pentium was locking up the entire system once in a while. They measured the thickness of the CPU and found that it was 0.x mm thinner than normal.
      This is bc someone machined the surface off. They laser engraved 100 MHz and the rest of the info on it.
      The material of the CPU was some kind of ceramic.

  • @dragontales1999
    @dragontales1999 Před rokem +45

    One time I saw a Reddit post where a dude got a Ryzen Sempron instead of a 3700x

    • @volvo09
      @volvo09 Před rokem +2

      Ooof

    • @ebridgewater
      @ebridgewater Před rokem +17

      A 'Ryzen Sempron'? lol

    • @rlosangeleskings
      @rlosangeleskings Před rokem

      I've seen a bunch of counterfeit AMD Ryzen 5 4000G series chips...enough that I will not buy them... The best chip of the 8 I tested was a Ryzen 5 3200G and the worse was a late model Athlon (I think it was a 6400) with Ryzen graphics... All were in builds people brought in...and the chips were at fault...

    • @hman6159
      @hman6159 Před rokem

      Oof

    • @alexmills1329
      @alexmills1329 Před rokem

      But did it fit in the motherboard

  • @Jimster481
    @Jimster481 Před rokem +83

    The tool you used in the video was to Identify Fake Intel CPUs (these are a thing entirely) as well as CPUs with BIOS that were modified (a problem in China where Celeron systems were being sold as i7 but appeared as i7 in windows). This is what the tool tests for.

    • @zodwraith5745
      @zodwraith5745 Před rokem +6

      This is the first reply that mentions these are all from China. Maybe don't buy your hardware from China?

    • @makuru_dd3662
      @makuru_dd3662 Před rokem

      @@zodwraith5745 nah, must have been the kids.
      But seriously, it's going to get a whole lot worse in china because of the sanctions.

    • @moth.monster
      @moth.monster Před rokem +7

      @@zodwraith5745 it's all made in China my dude

    • @zodwraith5745
      @zodwraith5745 Před rokem +4

      @@moth.monster Yeah but there's a difference in brand certified and quality controlled Made in China and random named BangHappyPowGood company Made in China.
      Even the "good" stuff that comes from the same factories using the tooling bought for official runs is done with substandard components and materials behind the company's back.

    • @austinh1028
      @austinh1028 Před rokem +1

      @@zodwraith5745 Yea there are always two different production lines in China:
      -the one backed by big brands with quality control and high standards
      -then the knockoff ripoffs destined for alibaba and similar sites with no quality standards really at all, but they 'look like the real deal' so they know people will buy them even just to throw them away to go find the real one.
      Chinese knockoffs are all scams, you really have to do your research these days on sellers
      Though I find it interesting that the knockoffs all play by the rules when it comes to the actual branding, they do have a requirement that is cannot be exactly the same logo as the production brands

  • @PokeMyBalls
    @PokeMyBalls Před rokem +10

    The last fake CPU I got was the 11700K. I never found out what it really was but it was 8th or 9th gen. The IHS was noticeably glued. I did the research and got a refund.

  • @keokai808
    @keokai808 Před rokem +9

    Thanks Steve, I love this type of reporting as it may save someone some grief. Like always, awesome job!

    • @802Garage
      @802Garage Před rokem +1

      You can literally see it!

  • @discipleofdagon8195
    @discipleofdagon8195 Před rokem +24

    "Who applied this thermal paste...? It's perfect."
    - Thermal Pate Jesus

    • @fookingsog
      @fookingsog Před rokem +2

      *Thermal Pâté Hayseus. 😜🤣😆😂

    • @H31MU7
      @H31MU7 Před rokem

      @@fookingsog and you have to roll the R in therrrrmal

    • @mikeh6286
      @mikeh6286 Před rokem

      PATE!

  • @OfSheikah
    @OfSheikah Před rokem

    I really hope your coverage of this scam gets widespread quicker than these problematic scam potentials, really Gamers Nexus is keeping the market in check

  • @mzdshii9121
    @mzdshii9121 Před rokem

    thank's for the info .. great work as always
    wish you all the best in the rest

  • @DuffCon
    @DuffCon Před rokem +4

    Cool that Steve helped out! The best outcome really.

  • @Boogerdick69
    @Boogerdick69 Před rokem +73

    The fact that he even thought it was a good idea to pay 500$ for a used 12900k is mind boggling lol

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo Před rokem +8

      Ikr, could've bought a 13700k instead

    • @A1BASE
      @A1BASE Před rokem +34

      You don’t know how long GN has been sitting on this video for or when the sale was made.
      There’s a good chance this was 6-8 months ago given that a police investigation has been completed.
      If it was bought 2nd hand shortly after launch it’s a 1/3rd saving which seems like it could be a good deal.

    • @Robbie-mw5uu
      @Robbie-mw5uu Před rokem

      people who get scammed often are stupid enough to deserve to get scammed

    • @Boogerdick69
      @Boogerdick69 Před rokem +3

      @@A1BASE 500$ for a 650$ cpu? Doesn’t matter when it launched lol

    • @Tc4ify
      @Tc4ify Před rokem

      @@Boogerdick69 You couldn't get them for 650 for quite a while though...

  • @josuad6890
    @josuad6890 Před rokem +16

    Remember folks, if a deal looks too good to be true, then maybe it is too good to be true. Double that if you're on a marketplace, and don't have a buyer's protection.

    • @mrliquiddevil7709
      @mrliquiddevil7709 Před rokem

      how is 500 for a used 12900ks a good deal? they dont even cost 500 new

    • @Tc4ify
      @Tc4ify Před rokem

      @@mrliquiddevil7709 This was probably close to a year ago and yeah, 500 would have been just enough to entice someone, but not immediately suspect trickery (smart scammer).

    • @mrliquiddevil7709
      @mrliquiddevil7709 Před rokem

      @@Tc4ify dude i dont remember intel selling out of anything since the 10900k. but i guess youre right because i just dont follow their products anymore. havent gonje intel since the 9900k. it wasnt impressive in assassins creed origins.

  • @JulsGeekPI
    @JulsGeekPI Před rokem

    Thanks I was not aware of this scam, Thanks for sharing the issue you have a new suscriber now

  • @OGTribeq
    @OGTribeq Před rokem +24

    Massive props for buying the CPU from the scammed person for what he payed for it.

  • @KevinLikesRTS
    @KevinLikesRTS Před rokem +89

    Thank you so much for showing this. I’m in the market for an upgrade and this is insane the world we live in :/

    • @SangheiliSpecOp
      @SangheiliSpecOp Před rokem +3

      Yeah people out there really don't care about taking other's hard earned money

    • @johnandrews9433
      @johnandrews9433 Před rokem +15

      Always been this way, buyer beware

    • @KevinLikesRTS
      @KevinLikesRTS Před rokem +1

      @@johnandrews9433 just sucks that it’s even a thing. Could come “new in box” and the scammer just reseals it. People have no conscience.

    • @johnandrews9433
      @johnandrews9433 Před rokem +2

      @@KevinLikesRTS it could but that’s pretty unlikely, even less likely than this. Same thing could happen if you buy anything “sealed” you could get a brick in a box.

    • @Youtube-Censorship-Police
      @Youtube-Censorship-Police Před rokem +4

      if you measure the insanity of our planet with fake cpu's, then you live a pretty good life i'd say

  • @miketjdickey2954
    @miketjdickey2954 Před rokem

    Great job good investigating it sad to see this . There is to many people out there like that .

  • @ThriftStoreHacker
    @ThriftStoreHacker Před rokem

    Good on you for helping the fella who got scammed out. That can be devastating to a person without much build money.

  • @pliashmuldba
    @pliashmuldba Před rokem +9

    I remember my old Northwood CPU, looking at the SMDs on the back of it, those actually matched a EE CPU and not the generic 3.2 GHZ northwood.
    It also OCed just fine on water. 😁

  • @AnCapGamer
    @AnCapGamer Před rokem +6

    By making this video AND all the amazing support from the great community, you will have made your money back. Always love these in depth videos GN does. Thank you for bringing these scams to light!

    • @ryanleninfan1337
      @ryanleninfan1337 Před rokem +1

      Why would an ancap care if someone was scammed lol

    • @AnCapGamer
      @AnCapGamer Před rokem

      @Ryan Lenin fan ancaps dont scam people, it's bad for business!

    • @Xetarine
      @Xetarine Před rokem +2

      @@ryanleninfan1337 And what forbids one from caring

    • @ancap_rem
      @ancap_rem Před rokem +3

      @@ryanleninfan1337 Because he has morals maybe?

  • @duckman12569
    @duckman12569 Před rokem +1

    Good video to have your brand sponsoring...and I AM looking at getting a new case.

  • @nathanderulo
    @nathanderulo Před rokem +15

    Hey Gamers Nexus! Love your guys content and quality you put out. Out of curiosity is there any plans to make the pt2 of the, "What are ram timings?" You guys rock keep it up

    • @texasjapan4071
      @texasjapan4071 Před rokem

      Bump this up

    • @maxxus0923
      @maxxus0923 Před rokem

      bumping!

    • @ChrispyNut
      @ChrispyNut Před rokem

      FWIW, Buildzoid / Actually Hardcore Overclocking has a mini series on memory timings. Covers a bunch, but being a lazy git, doesn't go especially far down the stack.
      E2A: Playlist link czcams.com/play/PLpS0n7xxSadUJE1fEuWfEMGvmMsVYGAbA.html

    • @nathanderulo
      @nathanderulo Před rokem +1

      @@ChrispyNut Oh sweet! Thanks for sharing that did not know he had that

  • @PokeMyBalls
    @PokeMyBalls Před rokem +8

    This is exactly why I test parts and call it off if they don't let me.

    • @raics101
      @raics101 Před rokem +1

      Yeah, it's customary here to go and buy the part in person, to check if it's working fine and if it's exactly as advertised. You might have it sent if you're dealing with a high reputation seller but otherwise it isn't recommended.

  • @nameinvalid69
    @nameinvalid69 Před rokem

    dang, didn't even knew this is a thing! thanks for talking about it

  • @ronny332
    @ronny332 Před rokem

    Always a pleasure to watch your reports. Thanks a lot!

  • @AlexSchendel
    @AlexSchendel Před rokem +18

    $500 sounds like a lot, but I guess in a world where police don't even bother helping people get back stolen cars worth thousands of dollars, I guess that's just how our incredible system works. In any case, great coverage, very interesting and scary to see what is happening in the used market there. Thanks for helping us find good ways to verify the products! Although, like a lot of people were saying, they could perform an IHS swap which could mean they could post a photo of the genuine 12900KS before swapping the IHS. And even if they don't swap the IHS, they could still edit any photos they post. Definitely always best to purchase from a place that has buyer's protection.

    • @tobiwonkanogy2975
      @tobiwonkanogy2975 Před rokem

      idk IRS cares about any $500 amount being moved now, maybe they could pass along frauds to law enforcement.

    • @mapesdhs597
      @mapesdhs597 Před rokem +1

      I'm in the UK; many years ago I and a dozen others got scammed on ebay by the same seller who was selling junk AthlonXP CPUs. It took months to obtain refunds back via ebay/PayPal (I coordinated action among all the affected buyers), even with the direct help of AMD. It was complicated because the scam was perpetrated by someone in the UK but also others in Italy, ebay PM replies could come from either source.
      Alas the cops told me they normally don't bother to investigate online fraud the amount lost is more than 5000 UKP, so of course scammers have a different MO to get round this, namely to do the same scam involving a much smaller amount but applied to a large number of people, so overall the scammers can make many thousands, even tens of thousands, but no individual person is hit for a sum that will attract the cops. Also, I was told that investigations are especially unlikely to be conducted if any international connections are involved, because it's then so much more complicated and expensive, for obvious reasons.
      Ebay is riddled with this sort of thing, and back then showed little interest in even trying to put a stop to it, despite being able to use basic analytics to easily identify likely scammer accounts. I kept reporting scams to ebay, mainly long form scams (where a seller builds up a +ve reputation over time via bogus sales, then uses that image to conduct the main fraud), but little happened, except perhaps a shift in policy where decisions now do err much more toward the buyer in general, though this now leaves sellers vulnerable to scams aswell.

  • @curbthepain
    @curbthepain Před rokem +36

    Damn thermaltake stepping it up thats a sick case

    • @iamstd2
      @iamstd2 Před rokem +14

      It's almost like they figured out that selling below average products for above average prices doesn't win customers

    • @sammiller6631
      @sammiller6631 Před rokem +7

      @@iamstd2 Almost

    • @IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature
      @IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Před rokem +2

      I thought it got a poor review, but maybe that was a similar looking case...

  • @regnittoekim46123
    @regnittoekim46123 Před rokem +1

    I would have assumed an IHS swap....good information, Steve!

  • @danielb5440
    @danielb5440 Před rokem

    I just seen a fake ryzen processor on fb market place. Glad you pushed out a video about this.

  • @Sochsun
    @Sochsun Před rokem +10

    Atta Gamers Nexus
    Did more than you needed to, and helped someone who was injured by this.
    Utmost respect

  • @Christopher_S
    @Christopher_S Před rokem +3

    How did they print the lettering with such accuracy! Wow that's a lot of work, effort and time for a scam like that.

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před rokem +1

      They probably just swapped the IHS with another CPU. Then they kept the better CPU. It was an upgrade with cash back.

  • @lylatdrift
    @lylatdrift Před rokem

    Good on you for helping the guy out. Subbed.

  • @sergentboucherie9813
    @sergentboucherie9813 Před rokem +1

    Wow that sucks, thanks for informing us about it

  • @AWickedOne
    @AWickedOne Před rokem +3

    I like how informative this was. I have never purchased a used cpu before, and it's good to know tricks to be wary of. Thanks!

  • @pcsecuritychannel
    @pcsecuritychannel Před rokem +16

    Gamers Nexus going around unscamming people, this is another level of badass.

    • @RiceCrustyTreat
      @RiceCrustyTreat Před rokem +2

      He didn't seem all that excited about it though...

  • @Mr101beers
    @Mr101beers Před rokem

    Great video !
    Really enjoyed the step by step.

  • @DarkOmenX
    @DarkOmenX Před rokem

    Excelent work and video Thanks GN!

  • @derelictmusic3218
    @derelictmusic3218 Před rokem +4

    I think GN got scammed too, was there a link to the original ad? I don't believe anyone who would pay $500 for a used 12900KS with cash. The used cash market always has a *huge* discount to the online used market because of the possibility of scams and inability to return products.

    • @IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature
      @IRefuseToUseThisStupidFeature Před rokem

      Maybe this purchase was back when the 12900 was new.
      Also people do dumb S#!+ all the time. So 🤷‍♀️. Either way they showed it was possible to do and it was clearly done, whether to GN or the original person so the video is justified either way.

  • @Teapose
    @Teapose Před rokem +5

    aw c'mon man, I just bought a CPU like two hours ago. Now I'm gonna have anxiety for a week until it comes in :p

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo Před rokem

      What CPU was it?

    • @Teapose
      @Teapose Před rokem

      @@BBWahoo 12400. Hopefully it’s not worth counterfeiting, I’m trading up from a 12100f so I can ditch my GPU for a few months while I catch up on bills

  • @DarkWiNKenzo
    @DarkWiNKenzo Před rokem

    Thanks steve, very much appreciated!

  • @Chris_In_Texas
    @Chris_In_Texas Před rokem +1

    In this particular CPU, you can see the extreme wear marks on the hold down, but the printing is perfect, based on the amount of the wear on the hold down points there shouldn't be much left of the actual printing. Great job bringing this to light! 😁👍

  • @orozcocris93
    @orozcocris93 Před rokem +3

    as someone who has lapped his 5950x, i can say it was a massive pain to get the dang thing taken off. lapping of course, requires you take all of the nickel off of the ihs however, the lettering was basically down to the copper

    • @Tc4ify
      @Tc4ify Před rokem +1

      Yeah, apparently with AMD, this was only done by swapping IHSes.

  • @dangermouse9494
    @dangermouse9494 Před rokem +14

    Steve is the hero we all need. The man is a legend.

  • @Lazarosaliths
    @Lazarosaliths Před rokem

    Great Video!!! Happy you helped that scammed guy(or did he scam you??? 😆😳🤯)

  • @soapa4279
    @soapa4279 Před rokem +10

    I feel almost privileged and blessed to not have to buy used PC parts. But I completely feel for the folks who do it to save a decent amount of money. It's just insane how elaborate scammers are now.

    • @ChrispyNut
      @ChrispyNut Před rokem +4

      A pleasant surprise to see someone acknowledge those aspects. Thank you.

    • @Robbie-mw5uu
      @Robbie-mw5uu Před rokem

      these scams are extremely rare
      unless you're willingly shopping for used parts on aliexpress, craigslist, etc, you won't get scammed
      Ebay protects it's buyers more than sellers. They will absolutely step in and destroy sellers who try to scam customers.
      Amazon is very laid back, but always check if the listing is fulfilled by amazon in which case amazon will supersede any authority from the seller and process returns automatically without the seller's input. Amazon warehouse are good used parts.

  • @kajurn791
    @kajurn791 Před rokem +7

    On most used CPU scams they ship CPUs from different sockets that would never fit in the socket or be able to be installed. This is a same socket CPU and at a glance it's much harder to tell. With this unless you know firsthand what to look for you'll only realize it once you've installed it onto the system and saw task manager or the bios.

  • @R0w4nH0pk1ns
    @R0w4nH0pk1ns Před rokem

    I haven't watched yet, but I swear I saw a video on this years ago too, it'll be interesting to see if and how the scam has evolved

  • @EnglishRain
    @EnglishRain Před rokem

    What amazing content, subscribed!

  • @TheAzureJahk
    @TheAzureJahk Před rokem +5

    Tha website is useful to know about. I was expecting the scam to be where they delidded and swapped real Intel IHS between different SKUs and pass off an i3 as an i9 etc. The website would catch a discrepency between the PCB code and IHS code from a photo. I didn't think about them fabricating the text on the IHS itself.

    • @pirojfmifhghek566
      @pirojfmifhghek566 Před rokem +1

      No kidding. That's some seriously low-hanging fruit right there.

  • @Dan-Simms
    @Dan-Simms Před rokem +3

    Computer Jesus, doing gods work, what a legend!

  • @DragonEdge10
    @DragonEdge10 Před rokem

    Holy crap, been a bit since I've watched, the studio looks so different!

  • @asdf51501
    @asdf51501 Před rokem

    Excellent, very informative content! Much appreciated, especially for those who prefer to buy used.

  • @TheHangarHobbit
    @TheHangarHobbit Před rokem +4

    I'm shocked they aren't doing that scam with AMD as the Athlon 950 sells for $12 and the 5800x3D is selling for $330 and both are AM4.

    • @SeabooUsMultimedia
      @SeabooUsMultimedia Před rokem +4

      Actually that did happen a few times on eBay those sellers though usually get kicked off the site

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo Před rokem

      You're giving them ideas!!

  • @shaneduc
    @shaneduc Před rokem

    @gammersnexus that's great of you guys helping the viewer out.

  • @hofas69
    @hofas69 Před rokem +3

    Sad to see this kind of shit exists.

  • @Jimsathome
    @Jimsathome Před rokem +2

    Thanks for the interesting video. I just bought an Intel i7 12700K CPU and used your tip to see about warranty coverage using the serial # and Batch #. It's covered until February 12, 2026. Happy Days. 😉

  • @enzomeister
    @enzomeister Před rokem

    Good works Steve, you are one of the only true and honest youtubers, safe to call you a savior :). Thank you for helping the comunity

  • @NinjAsylum
    @NinjAsylum Před rokem +7

    LTT did a story a few months ago about a similar swapped Ryzen CPU from Best Buy.

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo Před rokem

      What was the fake processor?

  • @marinob7433
    @marinob7433 Před rokem

    That makes sense. You find some sellers selling 12400 13400 at very low prices claiming they are brand new but they don't have a receipt to show you and of course only on "tray" version

  • @maximustitan8171
    @maximustitan8171 Před rokem

    Thanks for the heads up.

  • @bluegizmo1983
    @bluegizmo1983 Před rokem +25

    The sad thing is, a lot of these types of scams aren't even perpetrated by the seller! They are actually committed by buyers who buy legitimate products (like a real 12900K) and then swap the heat spreader and send it back for a refund, and the seller is non the wiser and ends up reselling it.

    • @shanez1215
      @shanez1215 Před rokem +3

      That's only if the seller doesn't check. In games it will be VERY OBVIOUS

    • @michaelhanson5773
      @michaelhanson5773 Před rokem

      Any smart seller would be checking things they got as a return though... They should be checking it that it still works and also it is what it says... They shouldnt be just turning around and selling it without verifications... The place i worked at used to validate every return and/or used item prior to resale.

    • @reignreincarnation5531
      @reignreincarnation5531 Před 10 měsíci

      @@michaelhanson5773 they should but with the amount of returns and lack of manpower and low wagesc i don't think they have the time or motivation to inspect each and every returned item plus it's a cpu and it looks legit as hex. You wouldn't be able to tell it was a fake in even 100s of glances. You need to put it into motion, whole freaking cpu and detail check it. Ain't nobody got time for it unless the returns are not as much.

  • @ImperatorSupreme
    @ImperatorSupreme Před rokem +11

    One of the risks associated with buying used, especially if you can’t inspect prior to purchase.

  • @YABBAHEY1
    @YABBAHEY1 Před rokem

    Commendable service your providing. Many Thanks

  • @devonmoreau
    @devonmoreau Před rokem

    That is really cool of you to buy that back from him at the cost he paid, that's alot of money for most people, appreciate you guys!

  • @GD_MoonBlister
    @GD_MoonBlister Před rokem +3

    There are some things in this world you should never buy used (unless from a close friend) and this is one of them. If you can't afford it, don't buy it. It's that simple.
    Thanks for sharing and stay well!

    • @Elkarlo77
      @Elkarlo77 Před rokem +1

      CPU's are one thing you can buy used. Just don't OC them. I bought a lot of CPU's for older Boards but they were all in the 30-100 USD Range. Never had big problems with them. Aftermarket Cooler and you are fine. The Problems are ATM Highend CPU's they get scammed as there is the money. But getting for an 6 year old Board a nice CPU no Problem as long as you OC them to hard. They run literally for Decades, the Boards die first.

    • @Bpinator
      @Bpinator Před rokem

      You can get huge discounts on older cpus though if its all you need.

  • @mgb2012
    @mgb2012 Před rokem +3

    couldn't the scammer have delid'ed a celeron and a 12900ks and swap the heat spreader?

    • @chronicalcultivation
      @chronicalcultivation Před rokem

      Doing that would create a pile of mislabeled 12900ks so unless they're keeping and using the CPU that would make no sense to do and lasering blank IHSs would be way cheaper

    • @1pcfred
      @1pcfred Před rokem

      @@chronicalcultivation of course they kept the better chip. They just got cash back on their upgrade.

  • @fmj9237
    @fmj9237 Před rokem +1

    Thank you for your guys' service

  • @jaybron1157
    @jaybron1157 Před rokem

    Thanks, Steve. Great video .

  • @pineapplepizza5733
    @pineapplepizza5733 Před rokem +4

    I remember when Linus did a video on a fake ryzen 5 3600 but that was sold through best buy or newegg or something like that...

    • @Peter.H.A.Petersen
      @Peter.H.A.Petersen Před rokem

      Yep ... From Best Buy!? 😆
      czcams.com/video/D_Q_6V10mTU/video.html

  • @wingman-1977
    @wingman-1977 Před rokem +5

    Add this to the list of why I don’t buy pre-owned PC parts.

    • @BBWahoo
      @BBWahoo Před rokem

      I got a Micron 9200 for around 800$~ 2 years ago, that was a hell of a deal, especially when 8tb NVME drives are still a rarity. You have to know where to look and who to buy from

    • @wingman-1977
      @wingman-1977 Před rokem

      @@BBWahoo it’s still a crapshoot. I’m not a gambling man, so I’ll stick to buying new (only exception is when if you know the person).

  • @brutifullybeautiful319

    Thanks for the great information 👍

  • @comrade171
    @comrade171 Před rokem +1

    I won't be shocked when some of these start selling on amazon and good luck getting them to help

  • @ffwast
    @ffwast Před rokem +4

    Avoid Intel scams, buy a different brand.

  • @FuckVeevo
    @FuckVeevo Před rokem +1

    Thanks for the video. I bought an i9 12900ks a few months ago as Grade A1, way cheaper than usual, and seeing this title had me worried. Your info helped me confirm that mine is legit. Thanks again.

  • @mariastevens6406
    @mariastevens6406 Před rokem

    Wow. I've seen cpu's that had the identifying label scrubbed off, but none with the identifier reprinted on it.

  • @penrar
    @penrar Před rokem

    Top bloke helping the scammed, respect.

  • @jameslmorehead
    @jameslmorehead Před rokem +1

    The new text can be applied just like you do when making a PCB at home. You print a mirror image on transfer film or overhead projector sheets using a laser printer. You then use heat from something like a cloth's iron to transfer the image to the final position.

  • @whatthedeuce47d68
    @whatthedeuce47d68 Před rokem

    Thanks for this, legends!

  • @genethebean7597
    @genethebean7597 Před rokem +1

    IHS swapping has been a consistent problem for a while, but to see it happen in REAL LIFE, with REAL CASH MONEY exchanged, is something I was not expecting to see. It takes serious malfeasance to do something like that.

  • @zeus1117
    @zeus1117 Před rokem

    Really good and useful video GN !

  • @jeffscomp
    @jeffscomp Před rokem +1

    Nice of you to help the guy who lost money on it out.

  • @dnakatomiuk
    @dnakatomiuk Před rokem

    This has been happening for years in the UK, where they delid and put it on a crap part.
    Its been happening in 2nd hand shops, why some have got small test benches set up on the back to test them for this sort of thing

  • @RussLudwig
    @RussLudwig Před rokem

    Great info! Thanks 👍

  • @Zero_XZ17
    @Zero_XZ17 Před rokem

    Did you guys upgrade your cameras? Very clean video

  • @DarkClosetOfTheMind
    @DarkClosetOfTheMind Před rokem

    Good video! BTW, the new Asus ROG boards have a start button on them now... ;)

  • @cowyow4300
    @cowyow4300 Před rokem

    Great video. Asianometry have an interesting example how this impacts the defence industry 'the fake chip scourge'

  • @JonathanRLight
    @JonathanRLight Před rokem

    Wonder if there's any data on how often this happens, I'd think it is the exception rather than the rule. Enjoyed the video.

  • @Dr.RichardBanks
    @Dr.RichardBanks Před rokem +2

    These are the videos we love to see. Thanks Steve and crew.

  • @mpatterson1410
    @mpatterson1410 Před rokem

    Steve and co - y'all are really good people. Sure, I know that you're making money from these videos and getting content. But, you could just as easily get content in other ways. But, you help out people who have been scammed. You investigate companies that are doing shady things. Plainly put - you're good people. Thank you, very very much.

  • @paulw3182
    @paulw3182 Před rokem

    The builder was fortunate you bought it - Great information on the Intel warranty site! Sadly, its experience which spots used items as new; and details such as population within the CPU die. Great Nexus karma, viewers need to visit your merch store and return the favor.

  • @xpyr
    @xpyr Před rokem

    I remember running this intel utility on my intel q6600 CPU, which is a quad core with no hyper threading, and it passed all tests except for the last one. I had it for 10 years though already, so not a big deal to me. It's long gone now though having been recycled, as I upgraded to a new system with an AMD 3900XT.
    One odd thing I remembered about it was my system would sometimes drop the multiplier from 9x to 8x once in a while and I'd need to go change it in the bios.

  • @Joe-KN4IFI
    @Joe-KN4IFI Před rokem

    Thanks Steve !

  • @Kmmlc
    @Kmmlc Před rokem

    This is why for CPU's I ask to go to the sellers house and it in either the bios or via hardware info before handing any cash over. If they aren't willing to do that, no sale.