Learn to fly the Me 262
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Learn to fly the Me 262 in IL2: Battle of Bodenplatte and be familiar with its cockpit, engine start, takeoff, and landing procedures. Various engine limitations, combat use, important airspeeds, and notes on flying the Me 262 are also included.
Mission to practice with the Me 262 is here:
www.dropbox.com/s/1tkgdpywcgm...
Comments and feedback are always welcome, so if this video helped you out hit the like button and let me know in the comments below. Cheers! - Hry
I decided to try to learn to start this thing the old fashioned way: brute force. Failing that, my friend joined me to try and crack the code in his own 262. Failing that, we asked Sheriff’s Discord server, where Psyrion spelled it out for me, and reminded us you exist. I had no idea you were involved in testing this thing, I wasn’t expecting a video for at least another week!
It's all good. It's easy to forget about me in this small corner of the internet as I don't post anywhere very often lol Glad you got it all sorted out!
The Air Combat Tutorial Library lmao. You just exceeded my expectations regarding speed. Seems to be a theme in IL-2 this week.
such great explaining, love you mate. forget TV, this is always better.
Cheers John:-)
But what if you have a smart TV?
Laughs in Luftwaffe
Vulch levels has just increased 1000 by percent
FlyingBull definitely watched Red try to vulch this thing in Combat Box. That... did not work out so well.
@@JustPlaneStupid69 If you're going to vulch Me-262's you have to have the correct plane for the job..... and we don't have the 262's nemesis, the Hawker Tempest in the game yet!!
It's here. Let the fun begin!!
Dont have this platform, but this vid was excellent. No waffle - clear, supported explanations and best of all - that gorgeous snow! What better scenery to show off a wonderful aircraft. Hmmmm. Gonna have to re-think the old financials here. Well done sir.
Thanks John, glad you enjoyed it! As long as you keep the engines running without a fireball you'll definitely enjoy the 262 :-D
Definitely like the addition of key commands in the video.
Thanks, yeah I've learned to try and add those in when it's something new/ important
@@RequiemsACTL yeah many times when watching the videos. Newer people go "okay I see the lever/button he pressed. But how do I press it?". Which is a fair question as the key commands almost require their own tutorial at times. lol
I was hawking over that refresh button of IL-2s Devblog page all week. But your video was the first thing that let me know the patch released :)
I wasn't quite ready either...I was about 20 minutes late releasing it LOL
OMG so hyped! Thanks for the video :P took me a bit to get her purring but Gosh it is an amazing plane! Stalled one engine during a dogfight, very impressed to see compressor stalls being implemented
Yeah they caught me by surprise when I was spin testing the airplane!
i actually suspected that this video was about some other game than BoX. holy shit, 'the' plane is here
And just like when I tried flying the 262 in IL-2 1946, it was costly maintenance for 5 flights when I tried to take off. Overheating was my specialty.
What's an extra few hundred degrees C between friends? :-)
Did you get it to cool off? Kinda searching for a mentor here ;D
@@RequiemsACTL Hey by the way, my throttle stick only has the ability to change 1 engine. How can I throttle up 1 engine without throttling the other one up in this situation?
@@natedogggaming1607 pressing the 1 or 2 key allows you to select/deselect engines individually
Thank you so much! Can I also select both at the same time when in flight?
Nvm stupid question I read more closely and figured it out
I have the US pilot manual copy for the ME262 from a captured one. It has a back binding though and not the ring binder. I use to have a few websites back in the early 2000s for the first IL2. Stukaguide, HE111guide, and ME262guide.com. The Me262 engines were prone to engine fire, this is from the US pilot manual: "By opening or closing throttles too fast under 6000 rpm there is a danger of causing cavitations in one of the compressor stages, that is, by moving the throttle too quickly the compressor is overloaded and the smooth air flow breaks up just as it does on a stalled wing. Insufficient air flows through but the same amount of fuel is injected, resulting in insufficient power or engine fire". Over 6000 rpm you can move the throttles as fast as you want. I already see one mistake on this model, the airspeed indicator had two needles a white and yellow needle. White was Indicated and Yellow was True airspeed at 400 km/h and above the needles would stay together. Also in the manual it says to Check your Gas Temperature make sure it does not go over 650 degrees C for long period of time no more then a few seconds.
Good info there Stew for everyone to look at. I had the German manuals and a US one to base the video off, but you can leave feedback on the website to the developers for anything specific. I just make videos and not on the development team.
airspeed indicator has two needles, but they are both white
Thanks again Requiem. I haven't flown her yet but thought I'd check your tute and maybe have a go this evening. I would assume in the start up of engines, one would select each engine separately. Got to remember the key combos whilst with a HMD on my face blocking the view.
They have added some nice extras into this patch including more base assets and people in career, more varied cloud cover and to me settlements also look more populated even on Basic Graphic Setting. This over all maps not just the latest.
No worries Piers, you should be able to start the engines individually or as a pair depending on how you select the engines so it's up to you
Excellent explanation with great visual aid.
Yay, I figured most of this out in about an hour. Your videos, as always, round out my understanding of what I'm attempting to learn/do. HerrMurf
Cheers Murf! Looking forward to seeing what you can do in this. Im guessing it may pull you away from the 190 a little bit hehe
@@RequiemsACTL Not likely, until the Mustang arrives of course :)
Now that I'm looking forward to as well! :-)
You are the go to when it comes for me to learn a new plane,nothing like the old 262 on the first Sturmovik,lol, i think the only thing modeled back then were the engines catching fire which amazed me the first time it happened back then, i was like wtf?? fast forward many years and many ME262 books later and i realized why they do that,thanks for all your videos!!
Yeah those engines really are sensitive if you're not used to it and know what to look for. I was deliberately cooking them so I could make the engine fire recovery video LOL
This helped me a whole lot! I was so confused with the engine startup until now! Thank you!
You're welcome!
Thank you! I was struggling a bit to taxi with this beast and you've helped sorting it out for me :-)
No worries! 👍
Excellent stuff.. Thanks for sharing it
I was thinking is anyone gonna teach how to fly these plane in IL2 for a while, than youtube give me this! Subscribed and thanks!
I make one of these for every airplane, but I hope you enjoy my other videos too :-)
Mate thank you so much for this tutorial. Pulling my hair out particularly trying to taxi. Wasted some time viewing settings to try and work out issue.
wonderful tutorial, as always. thank you
You vídeos are always awesome! Thanks
Thanks very much, happy to know you're still watching them! :-D
Hi Requiem, thanks for your great videos and tutorials, really helps me out a lot! I wanted to ask if you could make a video about the german gyro sight, since i doesn't really work for me, would be very interesting! Thanks a lot!
Hey Paul, I have stuff in the works on the gyro sights, but it always just takes time. The problem with them is that as you start applying G the gyro reticule ends up out of sight quite often. Defensively in MP we can pull a lot more pull G much easier than in RL so that makes it harder to get accurate shots with a gyro sight unless a target is maneuvering in a relatively benign way
@@RequiemsACTL Alright, thanks for quick answer! Also good to know that you're working on it! I will try again without applying to much G and see how it works. Have a nice day!
Very good explanations that are very clear.
Great video as usual keep them coming .
Thanks for the startup tips.
You're welcome Bernard
Love your videos! Thank you for teaching how to fly!
It's my absolute pleasure Artur! :-)
Thanks!
Excellent!
The engine overheat indication at startup got me scared.
But just set throttle slowly to 15% and then it locks!
I also had to deactitivate windows keystroke, since you have to keep shift + num 1/2 pressed to run up the engine.
It took me 3-4 engines to figure it out, but it is a magnificant aircraft to fly.
Combat performence I don't know, there are not many multiplayermaps featuring this AC, maybe for good reason.
Yeah that's just what happens when starting a jet engine. The temperature gets very hot while starting up before stabilising lower once the whole process is self sustaining. You won't see the 262 in MP very often because it ends up being used in an ahistorical manner which shifts the balance of a map. I still haven't flown a 262 in MP since it was released. I've shot a few down though at least!
Someone knew and had this ready to upload >:D
The benefit of being a tester for this explicit purpose :-)
@@RequiemsACTL Tbh without you I wouldn't have been able to start it! :D
On the plus side the ground crew probably could be having a nice BBQ from the attempts in the meantime! :-)
Thanks for this Mate!
Go for it Ash, destroy those engines!!
ur a life saver you just saved my plane
NOW to get in the bloody thing and see if I can get it off the ground!! Thanks Req!!
Hope it worked out for you mate ;-)
@@RequiemsACTL It actually DID Req! After a few false starts (literally!). It's pretty good to fly when you get your head round it, aint it?.
Thank you ACT. on it from day one
I figured there would be a lot of questions on the 262 so I endeavoured to have the tutorial ready to be released at the same time as the airplane :-)
Well, what a ritual. One's gotta sacrifice to the ancient Wehragod Jumo the 004th to maybe be allowed, as a foolish mortal, to grasp a fraction of it's power.
Thanks for the vid man.
Yeah it's a pretty narrow range of throttle to actually get decent power lol
Very nice tutorial as always 🙂👍
Thanks Lord Vader!
The Air Combat Tutorial Library 😊 your welcome, next up a TIE fighter perhaps? 😁
Bloodt great mate , thanks .
Here we go again!
You make this all seem so incredibly easy but I’m sure you have many, many years of experience :) Your videos are fantastically helpful, long may they continue. I’m curious as to which joystick /controllers you use. I’m thinking of buying a warthog as I’m using a t16000 with throttle and pedals and just never seem to have enough buttons.
Thanks Avetorro, I use a Thrustmaster Warthog (with a 10cm extension) along with MFG rudder pedals. Having something with lots of buttons really helps with DCS jets. The warbirds you don't need anywhere near as many.
@@RequiemsACTL that’s interesting. I never even knew they existed. I can see how that would improve control considerably as I have been experimenting with stretching the t16000 a few inches! Do you have a video that shows your actual hardware setup as that would be cool to see?
Yeah the extension definitely helps with controllability. No I don't have a video of my setup yet...there may be at some point in the future if I review any flight sim hardware.
Thank God I can fly my 262 it’s been sitting in my back yard for years
Excellent tank you ....yesssss
Great Vid Cheers.
Appreciate it Beerpig! :-)
I remember when i was a kid i would FULL THROTTLE and it would explode and it was fun!
Omg everyone it's happening
Briliant stuff
Is there a way to control the exhaust nozzle setting?
I remember a mechanical control surface shaped like a mushroom which
controls the nozzle output area.
How can that be controlled in il2.
just thinking back on 2006 outcoming il2-1946. nobody was there to told how the 262 fly and especially starts... i crash it several times over one weekend.. but past some days it was
...als wenn ein engel schiebt....
horrido guys and greetings ✙urbansoldier✙
I remember those days,i always wondered why the thing always caught on fire,lol, 14 years and 10 Me262 books later i'm pretty well versed on this beast,now flying it, thats another story , ha ha ha
Very nice
Thanks !
Greetings! This is an old video, but how do I tell what number the H-STAB is set to? I assume the tiny dash in the middle of it means 1? (ie 0, 0 1/4, 0 ½ etc?)
How do you start on the combat box server????????? When you do all this the engine will NOT light
I'm pretty sure I'm doing everything right but on some of my quick matches I can't seem to get it off The runway before either crash into a hill strategically placed at the end of a runway or some trees I almost need three times the runway they start me on.
Yeah it's really difficult to get this off the smaller fields. You'll either need to use the paved runways on the Rheinland map or take less fuel to reduce your takeoff weight.
I saw some on TAW few days ago. These planes are one of the reasons why I fly Mustang on 27K feet lol
Yeah they're super annoying. I've never seen one doing a ground attack role as when they get taken people want to get like 10 kills in a flight with it. I've never actually flown one in MP yet though.
hi thanks again for the video, i have problem first mission i have bomb load and i cant never get enough speed to take off and I end up in the grass at the end of the runway destroying the gear. Any advice for taking off with full load?m thx i get speed 230 at the end of the runway and still i cant lift....
Reduced fuel loads and a standing takeoff helps. With the bodenplatte map out now though it should be less of an issue
Can you post the link to your written pilots notes in this video?
Hi! What about marks on the front window? I searched any information but found nothing. Personally I think, it's the sight for horizontal bombing. But I can mistaken & still didn't know how to use it.
Not sure, I'd have to see if I can find any info on it
Nice machine
Thank you Requiem!! One question, what kind of pc do you have?? I want to update my pc and I don't know yet which one can be good to run IL2 BOS. I have I5 4460 with Nvidia GTX 1060 6gb, 16 gb ram and motherboard is ddr3, run nice but some tines in the stalingrad map or in Kuban have some problems with the fps. Thank you!!!!
You're welcome Keko. My PC is an i7700K with 16gb RAM and a RTX 2070. It runs Il-2 at a high FPS all the time
So the time has come......
It is odd but my 262 startup is not the same. Your video seems to show that as soon as Engine 1 is running then it automatically starts winding up engine two. For me I must switch manually to engine two then press E again. I also have an odd bug that wont let me move the gunsight to one side. I tried remapping the key to do it but it wont move.
That's odd. Both engines should be selected by default. Definitely sounds like a bug with the gunsight stowing too. I'm not home yet so cant verify them.
@@RequiemsACTL Ignore the gunsight issue. I had the gyro gunsight selected and that does not stow - Doh!
How do I use 262 to fight other fighters ? I found it rather hard .turn a bit it stalls...do a barrel it stalls... And when spitfire has superior altitude it's so hard to catch up due to poor climb rate (speed drops terribly fast)
Fly in straight lines, don't turn, stay fast. I've never been able to fly a 262 in MP against a human opponent as their use is so restricted.
Very good tutorial! Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I believe it's a voltmeter at 2:45.
Thanks, I usually make some sort of dumb typo lol
@@RequiemsACTL Thanks for the great video, it's being shared all over the forum and discord rooms while people are trying to figure out how to start the engines on the 262!
This channel is cool do you do tutorials on dcs too?
I've got a few DCS modules and thought about it making videos but I'm not sure if there is a demand for me to make DCS content.
No one else has responded to your comment, so perhaps not, but I would welcome it, because even though there seem to be quite a few that attempt to do tutorials on DCS aircraft, none, I think, are done as well as yours@@RequiemsACTL
@@stephendecatur189 Maybe I should make one and see what people think. I wouldn't do one on the Spit IX, K-4, or D-9 though...they would essentially be identical to my Il-2 videos apart from the cold start really. Maybe a jet or something could be interesting.
Will you do a more in depth cem video for the 262? And/or combat technic?
Yeah I'm going to make some other 262 stuff. I just got home from Florida last night.
@@RequiemsACTLNo excuses, get on with it! Joking, You're the best!
For some reason, I am unable to use emergency mode on the engines. It appears there is an RPM limiter (which is visible in autopilot); however, I cannot find the keybinding for it. Do you know what key bind it is set to?
Check your difficulty settings. You may throttle assist or something on
The Air Combat Tutorial Library I don’t have throttle assist turned on. The RPM limited only turns off when autopilot is enabled. I managed to get emergency power to work on takeoff, so I think it must be altitude dependent.
what graphic settings do you use ? it looks so sharp but you see also really easy little dots. You dont use blurred landscape? HDR? would be nice to know. In youtube it looks like you have everything on ultra and everything turned on but you also see the smallest dots :o
I use ultra with custom settings so I have blurred landscape with sharpen, no HDR or SSAO.
@@RequiemsACTL thanks mate i try it out :)
wait nose wheel brake? Is this the first aircraft in IL-2 to get one?
Yeah it's the first plane with a dedicated nosewheel brake
Nice, thanks, I did not know the update was ready. I logged out and now he is updating.
Btw, the meter tucked away on the right above the breakers is a Volt meter, not an Ampmeter.
I am new to flight sims, that Me 262 is a hand full. 10 crashes at start later......I think I need to wait until I have more experience. I do not get enough speed before the end of the runway.
Edit: I manage to get it in the air. I found an airport that was still a bit short but ended in a "ramp" and then the terrain went down. That was just enough.
Where did you fly it ? Are most runways to short or do I do it wrong. I have often problems recognizing the runway in most cases, so I first try to start using "at runway" and drive of in the direction it spawned but I think I do that wrong. By now I get most prop planes in the air the first try.
I'll upload my mission to practice the 262 with when I get home.
@@RequiemsACTL thank you very much. I learn a lot from you tutorials. I like for most how you make them so "real", it feels like I am learning to be a real life pilot.
@@pa4tim I was a flight instructor in real life before flying for the airline I do now, so I try to approach teaching in these videos like how I would with any real life student :-)
@@RequiemsACTL That way seems to work very well for me. I am now watching the landing/take off video and that helps a lot. Now I know why I sometimes, just after take off, crash. The hardest thing on many maps for me, is to find the runway for landing and when I start parket/engine off, where to find the runway to take off because it often is all snow or grass.
Hohoho, that's one sexy jet.
Please help me, I am playing campaign with this beauty, but the speeds are horrible, in level flight with max power i can do 500 km, but that's it if i try climb little bit goes down all the propelor aircraft is on my ass all the time, wasn't this plane able to fly 700 km/h level flight??? Thanks for your video!!!
Just stay high and stay fast. If you get slow and allow an airplane behind you (especially at low altitude) then it's going to be hard for you to get away without being shot at. Ideally you will make attacks with the altitude advantage, blast them, and use all your extra airspeed to climb back up. You can turn a bit, but avoid bleeding off all your airspeed and getting slow.
How do you start this if you only have a single throttle HOTAS?
@@gkelley77 I should have mentioned that I use VR as well. Keyboard can be done, but somewhat clumsy
for some reason when i try to fly this, the rpm never gets up to 3k and my brakes no matter where i map them dont work. is this plane bugged for me? wtf
Not sure why that is. There are a few different assignments for brakes so make sure you the ones assigned for toe brakes left and right, along with the nosewheel brake.
As soon as I get engine 1 to 1k rpm and hold igniter switch, she starts up but I get immediate engine damage and fire as it spools towards 2k rpm even before getting on the throttle
Use the inner RPM scale, its smaller grey lettering towards the center of then gauge
@@RequiemsACTL Got it sorted, my throttle was reading high when set to full back. Had to do the center it, un plug USB cable for HOTAS, then plug it back in and go through range of motions to re-calibrate it.
Now it works through full range of motion I have no issues with engine start fires.
Excellent!
well jobe...Finally we got a plane that can shoot down a pe2 (Tail gunner mode off)
Yeah those 4x30mm cannons will give any airplane a bad day! LOL
Man, just waiting for the He-162 to come.
That would be fun to fly!
@@RequiemsACTL sporty little jet that punishes you severely for feeding it the wrong glue :)
Awsome.. but looks like a handfull at low speed.
Yeah it starts getting a little sluggish so really try to avoid going below 300-350km/hr as it can be slow to get going
Once again, great video !! But what length shoud be the minimum length of the runway to take off ?
Around 1100m is sufficient with full fuel load
The Air Combat Tutorial Library Thks. Can you just indicate an airfield where I can have train with suffficient length ?
@@zobbyirre8743 I've added a mission you can download in the video description :-)
The Air Combat Tutorial Library ok thks again !
What kind of mods do u use? This looks beautiful
No mods
@@RequiemsACTL Mine is Version 4.13 and doesnt look like this. u have SAS on it? or HSFX? Congrats on the explanation pal, thanks to you i understand finally ALL the german instruments and the reason why i have problems. Fly Safe
@@RichardBeltrame1 It may just be the gamma. Come to think of it though there was a time where I used Reshade but it was a while ago. Possible that could be it.
the sexiest jet fighter ever built
how do you lose speed in the me 262?
Reduce throttle slowly and just hold level flight once you get down to lower altitudes. It will start slowing, but you need to plan to descend far away from the field or else you'll need to do some form of a descending spiral.
holy shit , is bodenplatte released?
It's still in early access. We have a few of the airplanes but no map yet.
Why slats are always in extended position?
The 262 likes to move very fast, the slats are unhappy with the slow speeds
because of gravitation
It will DISINTEGRATE Peshkas....and its absolutely GLORIOUS! Thanks for the video mate, this is a huge help.
No worries J! Maybe we can catch up next time im in CVG
@@RequiemsACTL yes sir! Let me know when you're coming in next. Ill give you a tour of our facility and we can go grab a beer and talk like airplane nerds! 😁 Dont worry, I'll make my wife drive. Lol You still have my number right?
Aye I still have it! No CVG overnights this month though.
Started quick mission.
Chose 262, altitude 2000m
Unpaused game.
Touched the throttle.
Both engines explode.
Death spin.
Die.
If you airspawn keep whatever control you use for throttle in real life all the way forward (100%) to prevent that happening.
What about combat tactics? Obviously it cant turn like a prop.
There isn't that much to it to be successful. The main advantage is that with your speed you can appear quickly and kill someone if they don't check their six often enough, so stay fast. If you drop below 300 km/hr it takes a while to accelerate again. I haven't been able to fly this airplane in a regular MP server yet but I've flown it a bit in Berloga. It's essentially untouchable if you fly disciplined and don't get sucked into a prolonged fight. If someone knows you're around, just leave and move on somewhere else. The cannons wreck all they touch so all it takes is that half a second on target and they'll go down.
@@RequiemsACTL love those 4 30 mm beasts. I play a free mobile flight sim as well called fighter wing 2. The jet's speed has to be constantly controlled if I dive then I cant move the jet at all and it veers upward. I feel IL is a bit more realistic. Still fun though.
How you remove the gunghsight?
I think its' Right ALT+F or something. The command is called stow gunsight I think.
@@RequiemsACTL Thanks!
uh what are you playing with tah tyou move the pilot's head that easy and still use all the buttons and stuff?
TrackIR, it's an extra piece of hardware
@@RequiemsACTL oh thank you for the reply, I will check it
I know it's a bit early but how do you feel 1C/777 has done with their first jet engine plane so far?
technically its not their first if you take a look at il-2 1946
@@Ash007YT I believe that was a different developer, still published by 1C but not developed by 777 Studios
In testing there were various things we gave feedback on the developers took into account and to me the jet handles very nicely but still has the engine quirks (but granted I fly a much different jet in RL). I think they've done a good job with it overall honestly. The type of engine start is a nice compromise, ground handling is good, the engine is a little finicky as you expect, compressor stalls are present, and Mach tuck is present.
At least the 262 in IL-2 Stormovik GB seems easier to start up and fly plus less prone to setting the engines on fire during the authentic (takes forever) warming up period in IL-2 Stormovik 1946. They do have more variants in that game including the 50mm. FlaK gun armed bomber assassin.
Try hitting the "E" key on your keyboard. Turn on the late model fuel regulating valve in the weapons setting menu to prevent mishandling the throttles. After running through real life jet engine start up procedures, it is a real joy to hit a button and let the ghost in the machine flawlessly perform the procedure for you. However, when we finally have solid hand-tracking capabilities in the sim, I will probably start performing the manual procedures myself. Next up will be a VR trip to the O-club for a drink after the mission.
Yeah clicky pits are overrated I think for a sim, but they definitely come in useful for learning procedures
i guess emergency takeoffs werent a thing.
Maybe if you'd like an engine fire lol but I think if you use the fuel valve modification it's less of an issue.
maybe add the Rheinmetall RATO boosters?
Im too broke for this tho.
Glad it's in the game but I'm too cheap to buy it
I wanted to see dead Peshkas...
I mean, it's cool and all but, why are we getting this before the P-51??? That should have been the priority. It was certainly more significant than this aircraft that came way too late in the conflict. Whatever.... Nice video. Thanks for teaching us how to handle these!
I don't think they're basing development timelines on the significance of a plane.
What's being built next has absolutely nothing to do with significance.
Dude, it's early access, be thankful you get anything at all, if you have a problem with the aircraft release order wait for the official release.
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@@thebiggestoneyouveverhad I like liver and my mum's a good cook so yes, if she made liver for me I would gladly eat it. Only problem is she lives on the other side of the world so showing up is tricky...
А можно на русском пожалуйста
i forget in my post some days ago ... check out this if u want to learn about the ME262 this: zenoswarbirdvideos.com/Flying_the_Me-262.html
i reconmend the Summary of debriefing of Me-262 from testpilot hans fey
btw. fey was the maiden name of my grand-grandma father side... and my name is vey ;-)
maybe that explaines my enthusiasm for the ME262
greetings ✙urbansoldier✙
That's a good document for sure. It was nice to have an english document
to work from in addition to translating the German ones when I was
making this video!