Black Widow - Movie Review
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Chris Stuckmann reviews Black Widow, starring Scarlett Johansson, Florence Pugh, David Harbour, Rachel Weisz, Ray Winstone, William Hurt, O-T Fagbenle. Directed by Cate Shortland. - Zábava
Spoiler: don't get too attached to the main character
Why? Did the character die previously in some type of highly profitable block buster movie that veryone saw?
This is the funniest 'spoiler' I've ever seen
Hahahaha
you literally cant, they dont write her to be likeable
spoiler alert from 5 years ago? ugggggggghhhhhhh
Pro tip: make movies about characters BEFORE killing them.
Should have released it before Endgame
So true.
they should've released this before endgame rather than captain marvel
Soo true I think it would be even more emotional when she died.
It would be make sense if they released it after Civil Wars since the theme took place after Civil Wars.
How did Black Widow die from falling in Endgame when she is clearly immune to fall damage?
😂😂i was thinking the same thing. It seems people forget to point that out for some reason.
Only to falls no longer that 100 feet though
Good point but with endgame she sacrificed her life in order to get a chance of saving half of the universe. i.e she made sure she dies in the endgame fall.
@@nomenetasaili7339 that's not the point.
Thank you^
I feel like this movie should have just focused more on Natasha's "family" backstory, because that was the most interesting part. The movie's actual villain, not so much. Somehow it felt rushed even though it was 2 hours long. I would have preferred one of her "family" members going all Winter Soldier instead.
100 percent agree. As soon as the film said " 21 years later" It lost the plot. It's all over the place.
The parts when they were kids growing up in a false family & the red room should have been the movie tbh & this should have been part 2.
Wdym goin winter soldier?
I actually thought since i heard about the movie that it was going to be about how they "corrupt" the little girls minds to became assassins and the evolution of the human side of the character (e.g. the famous "budapest conflict" with Barton and why it's so mentioned in past movies). Instead it's like: music intro explaining basically the bad guy, oohhh hi sister let's kill the bad guy, we killed the bad guy, end.
I'm more attached to her sister, she has a personality I can connect with. Hope to see a lot more of her. Scarlett Johansson was alright too.
The Black Widow film should've come a long ago. Its weird that Marvel chose to make a Capt. Marvel movie following Wonder Woman's success rather than a Black Widow one.
Exactly, and had they switched the two it would have made far more sense. Black Widow getting her movie before her death, and Marvel getting her movie as the first of the 'new era'.
I mean if they wanted to have Marvel in Endgame still, they could have. In fact her saving Tony, and then appearing at the end as this mysterious hero would have been more impactful. Just appear for a few minutes, then leave, no explanation. Fans would have been intrigued to learn more.
Cuz captain is more popular
@@paulmccloud9395 I hate how much sense your comment makes. That would've been great, both for Captan Marvel and Natasha, as characters.
@@paulmccloud9395 honestly the whole release order of phase three makes little sense. The movies don't take place in release order in universe and the post credits scenes often don't even line up right. It would've made a lot of sense to release Black Panther and Spider-man Homecoming closer to the release of Civil War since that's what it sets up, while movies like Doctor Strange and Thor Ragnarok should've been moved back, especially given that Thor Ragnarok leads directly into the start of infinity war
Not to mention casting the female devil brie larson in the role. Awful person
Since this movie is about family I’m surprised Dominic Toretto didn’t make an appearance.
He’s taskmaster
This comment needs to be pinned.
Ha ha! So good, man!
😂
🤣
“Smelling my pheromones prevents you from committing violence against me”
Right?! 😂😂 I was like gtfo
ATN Gaming it’s just lazy writing lmao
Is this the line that Chris was talking about that he couldn’t spoil?
@@XDarkBrotherhoodHD yeah bro 😅
Nik Terin yea
The reason this movie was created was because of the end credits scene
I mean the whole movie built up the family and we probably gonna see them again
That’s what I’ve been saying
That’s a really dumb comment to make
@@cjames1770 shh
@@cjames1770 lol clearly not kiddo, wake up🤦🏻♀️🤣
This Black Widow movie is like Natasha's funeral postponed for an entire year.
I mean.. is it even her movie if she’s dead and can’t continue her story - - and literally everything else in “her movie” is setup for their sequels, spin offs etc. Seems like it’s setup for everything BUT black widow 🤷♂️
I mean it technically is, the filmmakers described it as a eulogy that gives a better insight of her decision in Endgame.
@King Slayer isn't that like any Disney live action film?
@@firstlast9846 isn’t that almost any mcu movie?
Couldn't have put it better myself
This should have been the movie we got between Infinity War and Endgame, Captain Marvel could have waited for the next phase (including her cameo in Endgame).
or a thanos origin story
They really should've made it after Civil War. It still would've felt like filler if they put it in between Infinity War and Endgame
@@malcolmmiles3603 Frankly it wouldn't be filler if they did the necessary changes to make it fit better between Endgame and Infinity War, it would have been a very good chance to show us the state of the world after the Thanos snap instead of wasting time at the start of Endgame to show us that, develop Black Widow more before her eventual demise in Endgame (which would have made her death more impactful) and present few new side-characters to the MCU for future movies.
It would have been perfect, the only caveat left would be fixing Taskmaster, because whoever was that clown in the movie he is surely no Taskmaster, it totally feels like another imposter villain (like in Iron Man 3 with The Mandarin)
But alas, they stupidly squandered that chance to push Captain Marvel, a character many people don't care about, hasn't appeared or done anything in the MCU up the the point she was inserted in it, and had her comic series rebooted half a dozen times in few years, an all around poor decision.
Disney executives aren’t the brightest
@@eternalnjem No, they just think that you aren't.
This movie feels like a mission impossible, Charlie's angels and fast and furious vibe
Would’ve liked it to be much darker and more grounded
The intro scene has a sequel called The Americans
@@HavocFactionmusic DC is better for that
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Action,Adventure and most importantly FAMILY
I'm very glad Florence Pugh is getting the recognition she deserves.
Agreed. Other than this movie, I’ve only seen her in Midsommar, but I still think she is a terrific actress.
@@imanelsafy Go watch Little Women. She more than holds her own, in that incredible cast.
I love Florence Pugh, like she is brilliant, but I thought Jodie comer would have been good for the role as well
She's awesome, she has a personality I can connect with. Hope to see a lot more of her. Scarlett Johansson was alright too.
I like her in family themed films like Black Widow and Wrestling with My Family
I still firmly believe this should have been made before Captain Marvel, much less Endgame
Definitely
Captain Marvel didn’t even need to be made - - and tbh her character didn’t even need to be in Endgame.. the only important thing she did was save Tony and Nebula - otherwise she shouldn’t have even really have been introduced Into the MCU. Should’ve just had Tony get himself back to Earth by using Science or something,
100%. It shouldn't have taken marvel this long & they killed her character before they ever did anything interesting with her. Now it sounds like they made a Blackwidow movie too late and everybody noticed.
Same
@@firstlast9846 And Hulk should've been the one to do a 1v1 with Thanos in the final fight.
This movie should've been the next one after Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Not the winter Soldier , it should've been after Civil War
Right after Civil War. Would have been perfect.
i think he meant the movie would have been better if it was released after the winter soldier in keeping with the espionage-action genre.
Yeah after civil war preferred. Or earlier.
@@iwinmartin4991 Or just make two. One after Winter Soldier and one after Civil War. Everyone else gets a trilogy, she could have gotten two movies at the very least.
Did anyone ask for this plot tho… like I would’ve much rather loved an origin story
I’d rather know how black widow actually escaped from the red room system initially than this story tbh
An actual origin story would likely be R rated, which would have been better.
I want to see the first Budapest mission lmao
@@samcrow4640 there actually weirdly before any mcu movie a rated r black widow film was written about this exact thing about how she escaped and u can read the script online but it is very gruesome and a lot of profanity would recommend
Right! she and Hawkeye love talking about Budapest
I wanted a more down to earth spy movie, instead I got the same old marvel movie with floating air fortresses and massive explosions every 5 seconds
"Florence Pugh is the best part of the movie"
*pretends to be shocked*
He didn't thou-
@@mr.balls_cut6206 he means himself
The only consistent information about the movie is that Florence is the best part
@@mr.balls_cut6206 their talking about themselves
@@ttttt5072 you dare disrespect Papa Chris, I have 69 discord servers and all mod on them,so listen carefully boy,if you disrespect me again bad things will happen to you.
Not sure why they didn’t make this movie 10 years ago when her popularity was at its peak🙄
Right?! Like after Winter Soldier
because a man called Ike Perlmutter did not believe female led films would ever work, which might have influenced Fiege to postpone female led superhero movie until 2019, sadly.
@@goodsaint_001 Most likely female led films and Inhumans were main reason why Marvel Studio became separate entity
Do the reasesrch
Two words: Ike Perlmutter
Y’all don’t forget the legend SIMP who provides Natasha with the goodies
@4 koins Boxing man I felt bad for him
@Bridget McBride That's the joke, she WASN'T PAYING ANYTHING 💀
@Bridget McBride Mhmm black widow has a long list of unpayed checks to that poor simp guy 💀
Yes, i found it. I was wondering if anyone else spotted him.
She was impressed and he was pathetic.
She wants his resources but won't give him the punanny.👎🏽
That Parachute that Natasha found was more convenient than a Parachute at the top of a random building in GTA Online.
it was just..... there.
YES. THANK YOU. Like you mean to tell me this airship is literally falling out of the sky and someone just leaves a functional parachute on the ground somewhere??? It would have been so easy for her to just have taken it from someone else. Or grabbed it from a supply closet or at least somewhere that made sense. So frustrating!
This film feels like a fast and furious movie. Government agencies, explosions, car chases and FAMILY
The flying fortress seems somehow more realistic than that Pontiac Fiero in space. :-D
@@akosleoszilagyi2529 I haven't watched the movie... But.. *W h a t ?*
@Impersonal Immigrant Did you see the movie? Doesnt sound like it. I've literally not seen Widow take as many beatings in the entire MCU as she did in this movie. They even spend time to show you the damage to her back and sides from when Taskmaster kicked the ever-loving shit out of her. Yelena gets her entire arm cut open and a sryinge rammed into her shoulder. Melina got shot in the first 20 minutes of the movie and nearly died.
Or are you one of those people who consider death the only real "hurt"? lmao
@@yoursonisold8743 yh but she litteraly carries on like normal
Lmao word
They should've just made a Widow/Hawkeye movie about how they met and what the hell happened in Budapest.
I totally agree..
The Budapest thing is better left a mystery.
IN ALL OF PHASE 1 AND 2 THIS IS ALL I HAVE WANTED TO KNOW.
FRUSTRATING.
i mean they kinda explain what happened in budapest in the film, if i’m not mistaken
@@chloe-qs7ue just vaguely. it was pretty lame
This is part 2 of the Florence Pugh 'Fighting with my family' Trilogy
The fact that not only it took them 11 years to give her a movie, and not only was she already dead after this movie's release, but the movie can't even be called hers as it does nothing to further her (already over) story and is just a disposable setup movie really grinds my gears. And what were they thinking with Taskmaster? Marvel really fucked up with this one.
@Tyler Davis I think the concept behind him is cool, great design, great ability. I liked her in the movie as this terminator type character who plowed through every obstacle to get the target. I didn't really care about the reveal at all because like who was it really gonna be? There was no more impactful character it could've been
I feel like this movie should have come after Age of Ultron, since we got a glimpse of her backstory and this movie would have been a more fleshed out follow up.
I agree completely, dude. Age of Ultron was around 2015, right? Hell, it could've come out around the time of the 2nd or 3rd Captain America movies(The Winter Soldier, being the 2nd, and Civil War being the 3rd), and I think Winter Soldier came out the year before Age of Ultron, and Civil War was around 2018, maybe? I'm sure this sounds crazy, but I think they should've done a Hawkeye movie first. Or given both Black Widow and Hawkeye their own tv show and movie tie-in, all BEFORE EndGame came out. Like they did for Falcon and Bucky(the Winter Soldier), but why release a Black Widow movie RIGHT now? Why not in 2011, before Iron Man 3, or before the first Captain America movie, or hell, before the first Avengers movie in 2012? She was in that movie. We still haven't gotten a proper Mark Ruffalo(that's the name of the actor who plays the Hulk in the 2012 Avengers movie fyi), Incredible Hulk solo movie yet, we could've gotten that after the first Avengers movie. I mean; there STILL hasn't been any proper Hulk related anything really. Edward Norton's awful 2008 Hulk movie nearly killed any possible interest in seeing another Hulk movie, but Mark Ruffalo's proved he could probably pull off a solo Hulk movie, after his performance as Bruce Banner/The Hulk in the first Avengers movie. Remember the part near the end where he grabs Loki, smashes him repeatedly, on the ground, and at the end, says "Puny god", right before the other Avengers get there? I always love that scene. It's hilarious. But this movie is just poorly and just a badly timed release. Which is a shame. Because Scarlett Johansson kills it as Black Widow/Natasha Romanoff, and it's a shame her talents don't get utilized well in this movie. Which should've came out sometime around 2012-2016. But they better NOT f**k up the new Thor movie, the 2nd Venom movie,(cuz they got Woody Harrelson as Carnage),or the next Spider-Man movie. Sorry, this rant went on longer than i thought.
@@shawnfields2369 apparently Lionsgate had the rights to Black Widow up until 2014, so that’s why they couldn’t do a solo movie for so long
@@arthuredwards1433 Really? Well, thanks for the info, dude. Really appreciate it. Can't believe that Lionsgate themselves wouldn't either make or support a Black Widow solo movie. You'd think they would've, right? But no, I'm guessing they didn't do it because money, and popularity, was most likely an issue, right? Same ol', same old with movie companies; you know?
@@arthuredwards1433 That, and Ike Purlmutter was against it or something like that
Well that will ruin the timeline. All the the things in this movie happend between Civil War and Infinity War. It would have been good if it came out after Civil War.
Black Widow, the movie we all wanted, but was given at the wrong time smh. After Captain America The Winter Soldier would’ve been perfect.
That's exactly when they should have made it. *sigh*
or after civil war as this movie was supposed take place after that movie right?
That or after civil war came out which is where this takes place after
Said no one.
Never wanted a black widow film based off what they gave us.
She had one of the most hardest life styles and this filmed talked about trafficking girls, validation, free will so many good hidden messages for women. It took for Drako to see potential for them to feel validated. I felt like they should’ve brought this forward BEFORE the infinity war and end game movie. The fighting scenes were really good but they did a terrible job telling Taskmasters role! Overall I love the sisterly bond and the hidden messages but this movie was long overdue and they should’ve done a better job with the sequence of events
The movie was trash.
I also feel like this movie did the thing a lot of marvel movies do, which is make the villain ridiculously influential in the world? Like we meet the villain of this movie in this movie, and not to spoil anything but its implied that he has a lot of power over the world. Why have we not seen the effects of his evil in other marvel movies?
Make the story smaller but allow the characters to be big within it
The opening scene and credits was haunting and set the tone for the film,similar to The Winter Soldier. But gradually got too comical at some points and gradually fell off.
The MCU has this nasty habit of bringing in characters and using them for pure comedic purposes. They did with Drax and now The Red Guardian. Utter waste
I feel the same why, the opening with the family and the credits were so good, but after that it just became swallowed by the jokes
@@josiahteng6906 I don’t get how so many people like Drax. I haven’t watched Guardians of the Galaxy 1 since it was released but I remember him being decent. After that it’s just trash jokes after another
I just watched it. They should have Markus and Feely to do the script and screenplay. It was awful IMHO. BW deserved better...
Nah winter soldier was fucking awesome but this one was cheesy
Everyone knows this movie just exists to bring Florence's character into the MCU
unfortunately...
True, she would be appearing in the Hawkeye series too. Rather see her being introduced in Hawkeye than in this. Also it's a bit predictable that Rachel Weisz and David Harbor's character are going to die cuz there's no news that they would be appearing in future MCU projects, just Pugh herself
@@15Candles I did hear rumours that David's charactor will die in the movie, so yeah you have a point.:(
Yeah, really this is an origin story for the new Black Widow! Doesn't that get you excited...
No one?
Ugh which I'm really not excited for. Florence has become one of my fave up and coming actresses and I'm slightly irritated that her career will soon be Marvel-ified.
This is literally my feelings on this movie.
i WANTED to love this movie, and I just didn't.
Winter Soldier will remain my favorite movie, i guess. (I was hoping this movie would be better)
Yes! Winter Soldier is my favorite too. That movie was the bomb! ❤
With you there. The Winter Soldier had me on the edge of my seat. Best stand alone movie ever.
@roman_the_baptist I agree. It looks really bland (“concrete: the movie”), the action is terribly shot and edited (quick cuts and shaky cam are the bane of my existence), and it seems to mainly only serve the purpose of revealing Hydra has infiltrated Shield, and that Bucky is alive. Many people consider it one of the best, but I think it’s a fairly mediocre film overall.
The problem with winter soldier is that Captain America has no depth in the film. He's just a dude who stands for freedom and that's it. Like I get that making Captain America likeable is hard because he's a lame character but there's no proper attempt. I mean look at iron man. He was a lame boring character but they wrote him in an interesting way and it worked.
This movie had an interesting opening. Then we get this absolutely magnificent, black ops esque opening credits sequence. I’m hyped, I think I’m about to get a really cool spy thriller…
Then it just goes down from there and becomes a generic and mediocre marvel movie. Good performances from the main 4 actors especially Florence Pugh, who was easily the best part of the movie. But not enough plot, action or emotional Investment to make the film worth watching outside of marathoning all the marvel movies.
Shame really, if this was a gritty and grounded spy film about Natasha defecting and/or the Budapest mission it could have been a stand out film in the marvel catalog.
*Her character at this point has just been disrespected. Like everyone else, I agree this should’ve been done years ago*
Maybe that's why Scarlet went on a rant about the "sexualization" of her character in Iron man 2 and the avengers.
@@gamemediafan1714 I’d hardly say sexualizing her is disrespecting the character, as that’s always been in the characters DNA, it’s more about them refusing to elaborate on her identity and backstory in most of the other movies.
@@8bitdiedie I agree. That's why Marvel's new "feminist" angle is bothers me so much. They've been holding off on a black widow movie despite us begging marvel for one since the avengers, and then they try to use Captain Marvel as a feminist mouthpiece? Hypocricy at its finest.
I was just more poking fun at what Scarlet said recently about "sexualization" with Black Widow back in Iron Man 2 and the avengers.
@@gamemediafan1714 Yeah, ranting about the sexualization of a character well-known for basically being a femme-fatale (without it hindering who she is as character or taking anything away from her badassery...since it's literally one of the primary reasons why she's so badass) was indeed something funny to watch happen. Especially since it wasn't the sexualization that was disrespecting Widow as a character; it was the characterization (or lack-there-of).
Black Widow should be more than just sidelined eye-candy with no immediate sense of belonging or urgency to the plot. THAT is what Scarlet should've been ranting about. I mean, she's already been through a perfectly similar situation with her role as Major in Ghost in the Shell. Did that flop not teach her anything?
@@6ixlxrd You're misinterpreting the "rant" about sexualization. Women are not solely upset about sexualization. Plenty of female characters are popular, very sexy, _and_ well-liked by women and "feminists." In fact, I'd argue most "feminists" embrace sexuality. The issue is sexualization being the _primary_ aspect of the character with zero effort put into anything else. Which was an issue with Black Widow. In the first few movies she appeared in, she was "sexy badass spy lady" with zero to no backstory or other characteristics.
When they finally decided to give her other character traits, those traits were "Romantic Interest for Hulk" and "Infertile Womb=Broken Woman," which were just kind of insulting, honestly. Then she never got a movie, and when she finally, _finally_ started to become one of the most dynamic characters, THEY KILLED HER OFF.
So for many of us her whole through-line just felt like "Sexy, sexy, sexy, sad, dead." Wtf.
I’m glad Jim Hopper is doing well in Russia, was getting a bit worried…
_I understood that reference._
Pls elaborate
@@sreenivaskamath4243 stranger things
@@ExoticDreams man that felt like a long time ago
Harbor has argued in interviews that the two stories could possibly dovetail into one another, since the original cut had him looking just like Hopper lol
A lot of problems could have been fixed if they just made Taskmaster the main villain. They had her backstory set up in a way to make it a revenge story in which she was following the legacy of her dead father. You wouldn't have had to change that much of the story.
Or, just use the real Taskmaster from the comics. He is much, much better villain. Plus, one of the themes of the movie is that women need to stick together. Her avenging her dead dad would've pinned her against another woman which wouldn't work unless they reconciled at the end.
The black widow movie didn't even scratch the surface of how awesome and skilled at fighting taskmaster really is. They really did taskmaster dirty
The beginning of the movie was absolutely brilliant. It led viewers into the sinister world of child trafficking and all the horrors surrounding it. This got me emotionally involved, especially considering how relevant this topic is in our real world. However, after we skip to 2016, the movie's focus shifted. The atmosphere lightened up and the viewers gradually forgot about the horrors shown in the beginning.
IMO, this movie would have been much better if it kept it's focus on child trafficking, having Natasha break up an international ring of human traffickers led my her old nemesis who is an evil mastermind and not the pathetic chubby loser he was portrayed as in the movie.
Did Natasha take the Super Soldier serum or something? At least John Wick was getting hurt. She took some falls that were just way too unbelievable to not at least suffer a bruise, geez.
Yeah I think she had the serum
Pretty sure the only avenger without the serum is hawkeye
@@ABCD-ex5td no she didn’t
She took a modified version. Nowhere near as strong as the super serum that Capt. America took but it does make her slightly more durable and stronger than a normal human.
Right! Ive been wondering if she was juiced with something since Iron Man 2! She's definitely not "normal" but then again.. it's a movie. Characters are usually always superhuman in action films.
They just wasted Red Guardian. He could’ve had a great action scene….
Exactly !!! I mean what in the world ??? He only threw one punch and he didn’t even land it !!!
It’s nats movie not his stop crying
And the Super Soviet Soldiers
@Tiberiu Farcas are you dumb? Literally wasn’t even in the travel for 30 secs, why are so mad he wasn’t the main focus in a BLACK WIDOW movie??
Nah nah, taskmaster was wasted,
this movie worked for me. I was entertained. I cared about the characters. I was sad because I knew where Natashas story went from here and I wanted her to have a happy ending.
Movie was shit
@@noleftturns2468 your comment sure is, not the movie
@@iammayyz your comment is shit just like the movie! 💩
I liked it… Maybe because it was my first time going back to the movies since the beginning of Covid. I don’t think it was that bad.
I liked it as well. Idk why everyone keeps complaining 🤷♂️
I did too but it was mediocre
Same, I’d happily go back and watch it a 2nd time! That’s the great thing about films tho, it’s not always for everything 😁
It's bad perhaps if you watch it again you will realize it.
@@blackmantis3130 Sorry you didn't like it. to each their own I guess.
I've wanted a Black Widow movie since Captain America: The Winter Solider.
It's still a mystery on why it took so long to make
@@Spawnwick_Boseman446 Isaac Perlmutter is one of the big reasons
@@Spawnwick_Boseman446 they couldn't figure out a solo black widow movie would be able to build up to infinity war/Endgame cuz most of the post civil war did that
I've been wanting a Black Widow movie since Iron Man 2.
@@Spawnwick_Boseman446 because she wasn't a very popular character. No one cared except the fact she was the standout female I the MCU.
Audience: give us a Black Widow movie
Disney: yeah yeah just be patient ffs
*6 years later*
Disney: Hey guys, still want that black widow movie about her backstory?
Audience: Not really, her story is pretty much finished now
Disney: Yeah yeah whatever HERE IT IS GUYS!
Lmao 🤣
That pfp is perfect for this
I love that you have that avatar because I read Disney's lines in that scene with his voice. I knew where you were going with it early.
The MCU is being the DC... Introduce characters away after everybody forgets about them..
I really don't understand why Disney ignore her until now.
The miss the chance.
This movie was average at best. Florence Pugh and David Harbour is what saved this movie. The action was lackluster and taskmaster was the biggest let down of a villain. For me it seems like after Thanos the villains went back to being lack luster. It reminds me of MCU phase one.
I literally laughed at places that shouldn't be funny. Like the idea of the Red Room airship, or the Red Guardian throwing a shield at a dude and the dude hitting the aircraft wing
Black Widow should have gotten a movie years ago. I wanted one for so long.
Also, this movie really should have been about her past with Bucky. Not sure if he shows up because I haven't seen it. But it really should have been the core of the movie instead of all these new characters.
@@ML-tr1hz Does she have a past involving Bucky? She does in the comics but I don’t remember the movies ever touching on it
@@ML-tr1hz Her and Bucky almost have the same experiences. Natasha was way more in common with Bucky than Steve.
Black Widow movie should've started right after Cap2.
A former marvel executive hated her character. He was always fighting one of the reason agents of shield and the Netflix shows not being in the mcu cannon
Nobody cared except she was the lone female character that was less popular than any of the other avengers, including Hawkeye.
Too bad this being a prequel takes away all tension. You never have to worry about the main character, because you know nothing will happen to her in this movie.
Thats how comic books work
not necessarily. what if black widow in endgame was really a skrull or some other kind of twist and she really dies in this movie.
The only prequel that i found to still work and display a sense of tension was better call Saul
But that may also be due to the ambiguity of the character
You don't worry about the main character in any MCU solo film, that's nothing new.
you are seriously naive if you expect a superhero to die in his own mcu superhero movie
I wasn't expecting so much comedy, more a Winter Soldier vibe when people said it was more of spy movie. I couldn't get into the family dynamic, they just kept joking around.
0:10 “Probably her last because she died.”😂😂😂😂
Would’ve like to see a movie exploring her past and the “red in her ledger” concerning Hawkeye…
I thought we’d get a trilogy where it explored what we saw in the red room from Age Of Ultron, fighting under Russia, and meeting Hawkeye where she becomes a SHIELD Agent to come clean.
Wait we get none of that? Geez
It's briefly discussed, but not really explored in depth. Some flashbacks. The Red Room is very underwhelming.
I was interested in this too.Also meeting Hawkeye and crossing path with Winter Soldier.CA:Winter Soldier was dark,I am or was expecting this one to be to.
That should have been part of this film
“… I’ve loved her contribution to the MCU over the years.”
Me: Oh no. He’s about to say it’s crap.
Not crap, but definitely disappointing. At least it wasn't a F or worse, a hilariocity review.
The only reason I hate it is TASKMASTER, my FAVORITE SUPER VILLAIN was the most disappointing thing in this movie. I am devastated.
Sorry if this sounds like a rant; been wanting Taskmaster in live action for years
@@questworldiangreenknight7455 Hope you like him mute :)
@@Goremize in the words of Darth Vader
“NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!😩”
It really isn’t bad. I watched it yesterday and liked it a lot. It isn’t an A+ but this guy criticized it pretty harshly imo
Definitely worth a watch regardless of what reviews say
Chris, this is a great breakdown. Agree with many of your points.
This movie was actually great in my opinion. It was fun, badass, and kind of funny. It had a believable plot that gets the story from one epic scene to the next. Not all Marvel movies need to be more than that. Hardcore Marvel fans will definitely have a different point of view on this, and want every Marvel movie to be the best movie ever, but yeah no this was a GOOD movie.
Damn. They turned Black Widow into a passive protagonist? Sounds like this was definitely written for Florence. It’s crazy Disney manages to sideline Black Widow, again, in her own movie. They never really knew what to do with her.
She was bad, then good, then had a thing with Bruce, then it was dropped, then she’s killed, then she’s back as a sort of protagonist. How is anyone a fan of this character is still a mystery to me cause she is such an incomplete character.
This is a prequel, so it’s not like she’s suddenly back from the dead.
@@cthulhutheendless1587 that's not the point 🤦
I think the point is that the character had potential, and they just dropped the ball with her. To be fair, this character isn’t the only character that Marvel/Disney dropped the ball on.
ScarJo always gives me a “I appear nice on the outside but on the inside I’m a manipulative evil bitch” vibe. So I never really liked her that much.
@@cthulhutheendless1587 Are you slow?
This should've been released before Endgame instead of Captain Marvel, they could have mader her movie after Endgame like Black Panther after he appreared in Civil War, her character would've gotten more development and her death would also have been more emotional
I always thought the best way to take out 2nd Thanos would be for him to beat thor/iron man/cap, and then when they're all hopeless, banner finds out that black widow died from falcon and he gets so pissed that he finally gets over his becoming hulk problem and gets so angry that he just completely smashes Thanos enough, maybe with the help of Scarlet Witch so she can also have her revenge moment, to get the glove off him which Iron Man then scoops up so as to make his final sacrifice.
Now that would have been a good ending to Endgame.
agreed. Captain Marvel sucked both as a movie and as a character.
@@medalgear654 facts
Go back in time and make the movie
@@medalgear654 To be fair, Carol Danvers is arguably the worst version of Captain Marvel, not much you can do with that, and they pussed out of the alcoholism plotline, which is the only interesting character trait.
does anyone know what the cheesy line stuckmann was referring to?
I agree with the review - however I really love the scene where the widows were training collectively with their pistol in the third act. The scene was very well done as their moves seemed like half ballet as well.
They really mishandled this property, it’s almost like they threw this movie out there, just to get it out there..
Just like Chris said in the review Mr.Deepthinker.
Pretty sure they did
@@logicomamk2848 I commented when it was first uploaded, sir.
Rights, dude. Black Widow didn't became Marvel's property 100% until 2014. It was under Lionsgate and they gave the full rights to Marvel Studios since they couldn't make a Black Widow movie.
Not to mention, the main story was already getting ready for Thanos once we saw Age of Ultron back in 2015 when Thanos got the Infinity Gauntlet.
They probably should have just released it on D+ last year
Black Widow should have gotten a movie during phase 2.
I agree
it shouldve been her movie after infinty war not captain trashvel .in that way we get more sympathise about her death then they shouldve introduce trashvel in the endgame this is why after IW mcu is became shit
You say that, but you clearly have no idea how misogynistic Hollywood is especially during phase 2 of marvel. They didn’t consider making black widow until the success of Wonder Woman bc they sadly thought a woman couldn’t hold her own in a movie.
@@alessiobracco6161 Hollywood isn't misogynistic, they only care about money. Considering that before Wonder Woman the highest grossing female superhero movie was Catwoman at 82.1 million dollars, I can see why Hollywood wasn't rushing to make female superhero films. Also female lead blockbusters aren't guaranteed successes. Just look at Ghostbusters (2016), Terminator Dark Fate, Charlie's Angels, and Birds of Prey.
@@jimharrison2513 that is all true. Further proving my point that they would have never made black widow in phase 2 for the simple fact that it wasn’t a safe bet for success and they didn’t believe a female character could bring the $$ and movies like catwoman or Electra or any movie you listed certainly didn’t help the case.
Calm and soothing, a period peace set in Budapest our protaganist sets on her task while reflecting on the person she was and how she got there.
6:40 can some elaborate what line he meant?
This movie is long overdue and Scarlett Johansson clearly earned her own movie a long time ago. They definitely should have made this movie before or after the Avengers. Scarlett Johansson earn her own Solo movie and it's about time we have something.
Exactly, dude. I agree, 100%. Why she didn't get her own solo movie a long time ago, is really beyond me. Releasing it now is just stupid. And I was hyped up for it too. But if they ever get around to a Hawkeye or another Hulk movie, they better not f**k it up. This wasn't a bad movie, just a poor time to release it, as it should've been around 2012-2016. Maybe before Winter Soldier; maybe after it, before Civil War, after it, but definitely NOT after EndGame. Bad idea all around. I get that 2020 was a horrible year for literally everyone, and affected everything, but Black Widow's movie was definitely set up a LOOOOOONG time ago. Same with Hawkeye, and Mark Ruffalo's interpretation of The Incredible Hulk. Because the 2012 Avengers movie made them both super red hot popular, and same with Black Widow. Because they cast the PERFECT lady to play Black Widow. Everyone loved Scarlett Johansson's portrayal of Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow, so she should've gotten her own movie planned RIGHT there, after her appearance in Iron Man 2, which came out in 2009, I think? But yeah, we could've had at LEAST 2 Black Widow movies by now. Did they hesitate to release it because she wasn't as popular as the other Avengers or something, because if that's the truth, pretty lame ass reason, guys!
Yes but no, cos it's shit
@@shawnfields2369 Ike Perlmutter didn't think a female led superhero film would sell. Thank god Feige doesn't have to worry about him anymore.
Agree, but youll be disapointed lol
Earned? I mean, either there's a good story or there isn't? I'm not interested in watching movies because an actress earned it.
Hopefully this will be a good one though.
Let me guess about the bad line at the end. The villain says _you can't defeat me because I am not your husband._ Natasha then says _that's it? so what am I some kinda, Black Widow?_
and roll credits. but seriously i can totally see that.
I can also see where he says “ ha you will never defeat me you just a girl , and widow says “ no I’m a woman and kills him ! I can totally see that 😬
Lol oh boy thats shit lol
@@aarons8532 Get outta here with your political bait
I think it might be a line about why she can't have kids?
where did you get that shirt?
where'd you get your shirt man? i love it!
I feel like Chris has been making some really interesting observations from a screenplay perspective lately because he himself cares about the craft and is a screenwriter. Great stuff
So true, I've been a fan of his for years and he's the only movie reviewer that i watch. His critique is fair and on point and his analysis oftens makes you see the movie in a new light.
@@KT-ki7oo Not a fan of YMS?
guess what......................... final draft of Black widow was written by wandavision creator lolZ and wandavision idea was of kevin fiege so it wasnt even creators ptich for wandavison and she can write good characters only if she tries, she IS NOT GOOD COMIC BOOK MOVIE AND TV SHOW WRITER :( :(
@Luis Collado so?
@Luis Collado what does his sexuality have to do with the way he reviews movies?
Reel Rejects review brought up an interesting point as well, the scenes outside of action didn’t work well due to the editing. Far too many camera jumps taking you out of the scene
I felt the same way. Whenever I see an amazing review for this movie it feels like they gave it a high score just because Marvel hasn't released a movie in a while and the reviewer would have given it a high score no matter what.
Florence Pugh will be the new Black widow, everyone else is expendable in this movie.
That stranger things guy dies
@Justin Gary he doesnt
@Justin Gary he doesnt
I still can’t believe we got not only one, but two ant-man movies before a single black widow movie.
Even funnier : we'll get an antman trilogy before man of steel 2
Hes much much more interesting
@@Wade_Fucking_Wilson Even funnier: We have polka dot man on the big screen before Nightwing.
@@ayushman3359 that’s insane lol
To be fair, as dreadfully forgettable Ant-Man & The Wasp was, it was vital for Endgame
We have seen that when commodities are in the relation of exchange, their exchange-value manifests itself as something totally independent of their use-value. But if we abstract from their use-value, there remains their value, as has just been defined. The common factor in the exchange relation, or in the exchange-value of the commodity, is therefore its value.
I think it works better as a disfunctional family, drama movie rather than a superhero movie and I'm actually quite fine with that. The scenes with her family were very emotional and i even fuckin teared up a bit in some. It was a great imo.
Taskmaster was the biggest disappointment of this movie IMO.
That character is much more interesting in the comics...
Every comic counterpart of the mcu villains (and 80% of mcu heroes) are better in the comics
@@skychieftain agreed
@@skychieftain thanos in mcu was better tho.
@@diamond_dude1063 no he wasn't lol. His motives and plan was among the worst things about mcu. Feige never fails to destroy comic book characters
Even in the Spider-Man PS4 game he was way more interesting
Disney screwed Johansson .. she deserved her solo film years ago after Civil War and certainly before Wasp and Captain Marvel.
Poor marketing and decision making. Can’t blame for being pissed.
She’s got enough lol shes in like 12 marvel movies lol
Not really disney's fault, it's probably because of douchbag perlmutter
@@jaydenclancy1139 Yeah,it IS disneys fault.
Perlmutter lost control in 2014.Phase 3 was all under Feige. They could have easily gotten Black Widow instead of captain marvel
Scarlett might have deserved it cause she's a star but NOBODY cared about the black widow comic book character
Well the covid messed most of that up cant blame them
I would love a standalone Hawkeye movie after the snap when he became like dark Hawkeye
really heartwarming story. not enough red guardian and action scenes though.
cynically I feel like the actual role of this film is to introduce a new black widow agent as there are many black widows in the comics.
Wait
...you're telling me that marvel made a movie just to set up another movie for people people watch? How unexpected! Anyway I'm off to rewatch thor the dark world. /s
@lilmil And done well 🤣
I honestly more intrested on the "budapest incident" then anything in this movie i rather have a story about how she was a killer then have barton come in and what there mission was
Yea we have so many Budapest references throughout the series but they never gone over it with us… I was hoping to see a reveal of that history in this movie.
All of this!!
So true
I’m not a movie critic, but I did literally just get home from watching it in theaters. I had no expectations, just went in and watched. I loved it very much, but I really hope Red Guardian gets more time.
Black Widow and Hawkeye needs to have a movie together. About..... Budapest. And how she became an Avenger with Clint recruiting her instead of putting her down like he was supposed to
*If this movie had come after the civil war then it would have been perfect.*
Literally no one is complaining about the timing, but the nonsensical plot. Stop licking Marvel’s ass
@@manavbhalla2861 Actually everyone's complaining about the timing lmao. One of the main thing I always hear about this movie. The plot was meh
right? if this was the movie they were gonna make, imagine how awesome it would have been if shown then, end credits and all! we would have been tying ourselves up in knots trying to figure it out!
@@shandysawh3071 yeah, apart from the timing and some weird dialogues (as Chris mentioned) I feel like the Movie was really good. And also kinda upset that they wasted dynamo but its all good. If this movie was released on time then it would be so so good.
Movie is and would've been shit no matter when it got released
I feel like this movie will suffer from what Solo: A Star Wars Story suffered from. It checks off so many call backs to black widow that the story then is weakened.
No dude
Solo had much potential they just did all wrong with that
Solo was good as a standalone movie.
Solo was a very good movie but it came not too long ago after the Last Jedi and fans didn’t give it a proper chance because of that movie
@@denimschaffer9439 I marathoned SW movies before Ep9 released. Rogue One and Solo were awesome.
I totally forgot that movie in every way. I did see it once.
6:42 what is the quote does anyone know??
It would have been nice if they did this movie in like, Phase 2 to help explain SHIELD and the dynamics working within it
"Such a poser" LOL "Do you like my vest? It has a lot of pockets".
I like Pugh's comedy lines. But Harbour's just bad
@@oleksandrbyelyenko435 I agree.
I don't understand how these lines are funny. Can someone explain? The jokes felt so childish.
@@NoName-so8ty I didnt think they were funny, just cute & innocent. That's probably why sum ppl giggled.
@@NoName-so8ty they were mcu funny lol
It's sad they couldn't make a better movie for Scarlett after so many years
Agreed. She deserved better.
It’s wired, but i really enjoyed this movie, I had read the reviews, so maybe my expectations were low, but I thought it was very entertaining.
@@COLINHILLSWIMS Me too...I did not read any reviews or see the RT score before going in, and I still enjoyed it for what it is. Like, someone tell me why, if James Bond, an international spy, does over-the-top fast-paced action sequences with nifty gadgets and little in way of actual plot, then the critics rave about him, but if Natasha does it WITH a proper plot, then its atrocious? What were people's expectations ; that a movie centered around a woman would be all weepy and feelings and melodrama?
doesn't help that she isn't a good actor. Natalie Portman is better.
@@rw3ints694 are you out of your mind? The whole reason people wanted this movie was because of her
few interesting cameos and notable name drops include: Ursa Major the Bear played by Olivier Richters and Crimson dynamo the Iron man counterpart.
This movie could have been so great. I mean, within the first ten minutes you get what is probabl one of the most mature and grapphic scenes in the MCU - only rivalled in my opinion by some scenes in Daredevil or Jessica Jones - and definitely unrivalled by any other of the MCU movies. When I started watching the film, I did NOT expect to see a crying little kid pointing a gun at soldiers, desperatly trying to protect her baby sister. That scene was brutal as fuck, especially because we never see children suffering in the MCU. And then it was immediatly followed by an extremly grapphic montage of human trafficking. All those little girls crying made me almost stop watching the movie.
They could have gone deep with those themes. They sort of try, in the third act, with the way the villain talks about girls like human resources. They could have made a thematically strong movie, a la Black Panther, dealing with current political issues (such as the commodification of women's and girl's bodies). Black widow could have been a metaphor for p*d*ph*l* rings, and how abused children grow up with their humanity stripped from them. But they just... didn't. Marvel missed an Oscar opportunity with this one.
I love the callback line “Thank you for your cooperation”
IMO this film and Captain Marvel should've swapped release dates. Black Widow having a prequel after she died just feels kind of jarring, and Captain Marvel didn't do much in Endgame aside from being a buff to the rest of the team. I think it would flow better if Black Widow's solo film came out before Endgame and then she would have her sendoff in Endgame, and you could save Captain Marvel for Phase 4/New Avengers.
Thank you!!!
They do this with lots of movies they make prequels instead of sequels cuz they can't think of a sequel
don't forget captain marvel saved tony stark
@@theimortal1974 that could have easily been solved by simply having Tony and nebula figure out how to get home on their own, thus further developing their relationship with each other. The more I read about this black widow movie, the more I'm convinced that it was the movie that was originally supposed to be between Infinity war and endgame. I think Captain marvel was shoehorned in at the last minute because they wanted to set her up as the leader for phase 4, and also win a bunch of points with the feminists.
She could’ve made her debut in Endgame, had her film released between it and Spider-Man: Far From Home and it wouldn’t have affected her role in any way, shape or form, nor would it have of Monica’s and the skrulls’ in Far From Home & WandaVision. The only things that would have had to change is the “Where’s Fury?!” post-credits scene and probably present & characterise her as more of a complete newcomer in Endgame rather than someone we’ve already met before but that’s it
I watch your reviews 2 times before watching & after watching and it completely changed the video
I feel it’s important to note just how amazing and strongly constructed the first third of the movie is. For all the story flaws of the over all film and all the many (many) problems with the end of the film, the first third of the film really hit it out of the park.
the writers at marvel are literally incapable of writing a good female lead movie
ahem, wandavision
Dire Wolf Nation I did enjoy wandavison
Captain Marvel and Black Panther are the only good superhero movies.
@@purple1441 wandavision was eh
@@Fluffy_production yeah cause wounder woman 1984 was such a great movie and the first 1 was meh
*Doesn’t matter if this film is God Awful* still gonna be seeing MCU fans writing Essays in the comments about how it’s immensely deep.
lmao
There’s gonna be fans like that in whatever popular franchise
Movie sucked
Yep.
Pfft that's every Fandom what you talking about 🤣
What was the line that u were referring to.
i saw the movie what was that cheesey line with nat and dreykov?
They should've made a movie in a similar style to Winter Soldier
I agree,I was expecting it to be like that.
Should of done alot of things differently.
That's because of different directors I guess, Cate Shortland and The Russo Brothers have different visions and styles for their own MCU film
Yes with the same writers and directors
Marvel: Nahh, take these childish, cheesy, filled with jokes movies instead
The only time Black Widow felt like a interesting and compelling character was in Winter Soldier for me.
She was pretty good in Avengers for me
Yes that's the best black widow version
I agree, the first Avengers and Winter Soldier were the only films with a compelling presentation of Black Widow
@cablecow15 or you know people actually enjoy the movie. Lol does doing the face palm emoji make you happy ? Lmao. You’re shock because people have a different opinion about a movie than you. I wonder if you know our Sun is also a star ?
@cablecow15 I didn't say anything about Winter Soldier as a whole, I mention Black Widow's role and character in it. She is interesting,funny, had the spotlight on her and even has such great chemistry with Steve Rogers that I wouldn't have mind them pairing up instead of the Hulk nonsense they did with her and the barely a thing between Steve and Sharon. While she had moments in other movies Winter Soldier is were she shined.
Red guardian was so weird in this movie he goes for stable dad figure to crasy uncle in a half an hour lol.
in short do you recommend the film? i ask since sometimes i feel some bias from the people i watch here that review it only for spite for being a marvel/disney produtcion,
As marvel gain popularity, the movies will eventually lack vision, creativity and storyline.. It's all came down to money.
I'm afraid it's always been like that, except for movies like infinity war
@Justin K have you watched them all? The character arcs were amazing, and it contributed to their loss in Infinity war.
But Vision got revived in WandaVision. :)
I wouldn't say projects like wandavision or upcoming movies like Shang Chi and the Eternals lack vision and creativity. Marvel just has to figure out the way to perfect the execution, because evidently that's where their latest outings fail (e.g. Falcon and the Winter Soldier)
@@austinhernandez2716 I've watched all of them. The first Iron Man was good, the Edward Norton Hulk was decent, the Captain America movies were good, Doctor Strange was good. The writing was good and the actors carried the characters well. Everything else felt more like obvious cash grabs, especially the Avenger movies. Iron Man 3 and Captain Marvel were probably the most offensive cash grabs. Iron Man 3 for being god awful. Captain Marvel for being the movie released right before Endgame but had the most thinnest of threads connecting it to Endgame.