Rotella T6 oil Analysis, bad results at very low mileage. It should not be used in this engine
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Surprised by these results! I usually see really solid test sheets on Rotella T6. Always good to have more data.
Since when you have been interested in diesel motor oil?
@@repairvehicle Tons of people use T6 in performance car engines. 😁
Never heard that before
@@repairvehicle what do you mean you never heard this?
tons of people use regular rotella in racing engines--flat tappet engines.
and I am seeing rotella t6 5w40 used.
im looking for a power test on oils.....and wear.
@@harryharry3193 , there are oils that are specifically formulated for racing engines. I am not sure why people don't use, they don't know about these oils. Its like buying Prius for racing, makes no sense right. Makes not sense to use regular oil for racing that is not formulated for racing engines.
That's what I mean, I never heard someone using vehicle for racing and using low quality oil.
LOL! you should see the firey debates on Porsche forums with using Rolella T4 15W40 on older air cooled 911 cars. Rotella T4 has been used in these cars for decades and the hot debates about using diesel oil in older air cooled Porsches are fierce.
Just because someone is using it doesn’t mean it’s best protection for the engine. There’s a reason why these older air cooled have to many problems due to lubrication, T4 is not protecting it cannot protect with extreme heat these engines generate
@repairvehicle Shell 15W40 is a recommended mult-weight in 70's - 80s 911 owners manual. Rotella T4, T5 and T6 all have over the standard 700- 800 ppm in zinc at around 1100. Also have added phosphorus, boron so it's flat tapet cam ideal. I've seen countless Blackstone lab reports and T5 15W40 I like the best due to the added mollybednium.
I used Delo 30W in the 66 beetle.The reason I didnt use Rotella was I didnt see it in discount stores. Multi grade couldnt be used in a diesel. You can still get Chevron Delo 100 but only in single weight winter grade.
Well, on 1st possition is always Xado,
Second position is for Rotela T6.
I use both of them, but don't go more than 6K miles if you respect your car or pick up truck.
Xado i amazing and no one can beat it so far.
Idrove my Freightliner Cascadia only with full syntetic, i dont use mineral cheap garbadge and my truck is 1M miles last month.Last two years i switched from Rotela T6 on Xado, and i can tell you it is amazing oil with incredible test results.
What year was your truck?
You changed your oil every 6k miles in Cascadia?
@@repairvehicle Freightliner Cascadia is a Semi Truck most likely with 15 liters DD15 engine. They not changing oil every 6k. DD15 takes 10 Gal oil and they changing oil at least 15k on conventional oil and even more on synthetic.
It doesn’t not matter if it has 15 liters, it has bigger surface are to lubricate and cool off. Changing oil by what oem tells is a big mistake anyone can make.
Lol, another amsoil sales pitch.
Truth always hurts makes people uncomfortable when they are use to believe in something that has never been proven
Intresting I've Never heard anything bad about t6. Started using this in my car because the liquimolly kit is out of stock. This makes me want to send both into the test lab
It’s because no one has done oil analysis. Too many people believe big companies thinking they are on their side. Big companies all about profits and not quality
bobistheoilguy has tons of oil analysis reports on T6.@@repairvehicle
Thank you for making these videos. Factual based information is great so people can make better decisions.
You are welcome.
Is this oil good for a 4 cycle engine like 7 hp inverter generator? It uses 10w30 oil. Just wondering
What brand of generator? Gas or diesel?
Right when I saw your amsoil pump I knew the sample was gonna be bad.
Why Rottela doesn’t have any data to prove their oil better than competitors? It’s like athlete claiming to be best without proving, no one would believe them. Yet you choose to believe corporate that bankrupts you and would not tell you the truth
How many miles where on that engine and what oil where you using before?
Same oil was used before. Mileage on the engine in the video, less than 50k miles. Don’t remember exactly the mileage without watching video
I have been using t6 for so many years now on my 2014 honda valkyrie thats a motorcycle incase you didn't know..never had a problem..i also know alot of people personally and on fb who ise t6 and some have some high milage like 80k to 100k miles on their motorcycles using T6...so i will keep on using t6
700k miles on Honda motorcycle, now that’s impressive and without t6 oil.
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You must hate your Honda if you’re not researching and using best.
What’s your opinion on the T6 for the F150 3.0 running it to 3500 miles? About 2-3 months
3.0 diesel?
@@repairvehicle yes 3.0 diesel F150
If truck deleted you will be fine short intervals as stated. However, with emissions equipment installed, I don’t have specs for this oil related to emissions, because it could be clogging up your dpf and you constantly running in regen.
@@repairvehicle appreciate it very much, thanks
@repairvehicle So, what oil other oils have you tried since this video? and what results? sorry if i missed something in comments.
I will be sharing soon on my channel with results comparing two different brands side by side.
What do you drive and what are you looking for when it comes to oil?
@@repairvehicle 2018 Ram, using Rotella T6, first oil change at 3000 miles, been going 7/10k since then, truck 43k on it now. truck is daily driver, no heavy loads yet.
@@repairvehicle thank you
@@jessashley , I have 2018 3500 ram cummins too. Do you change your oil based on the mileage only? If you drove 7k miles in 15 months then you change oil, after 15 months?
I just added 5W-40 T6 to my 2017 6.7L power stroke. I plan on changing every 5,000 miles. What’s your opinion? Am I fine sticking with rotella or should I switch brands at my next oil change?
It depends on personal preference. If you love your truck and want to get maximum trouble free miles from the engine then it makes sense using best motor oil. Do you agree? Are you towing with truck or just daily? How often does your truck regen?
@@repairvehicle I agree! I’m willing to use whatever’s best. I’d like to keep this truck running strong until the wheels fall off. It has 133,000 miles on it. I only tow a small utility trailer on average maybe every couple weeks. I’ve only been driving it for about 7,000 miles. Haven’t noticed any regen yet or it’s very subtle I don’t realize it’s doing it.
@Painfulwhale360 , you need scangauge to see when truck is in regen
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I use this oil and recommend using it. I have comments my channel from 6.7 power stroke owners using this oil and have over 500k miles and no engine repairs. www.amsoil.com/c/diesel-engine-oil/5/?zo=5257753
Ford dpf preventive maintenance
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Ive heard that Cummins engines do well with Delo
For older cummins yes it works well
Which part of that engine is aluminum? How did it make its way into the oil?
I have the 2010 6.7l cummins. Tow and used daily. I have 400,000 km on it now, and I used rotella only. No leaks, no blue smoke (oil burning), and no power lose. Looking at the results. It's all within specs on the second sheet he show. By product of diesel fuel makes acid that eat away at your seals, that's why it's recommended to change your oil at 6 month
Bearings have aluminum, pistons made from aluminum
Original transmission?
Check out his potassium and sodium levels at just 1k miles. He's got coolant in the oil causing extra wear. Plus high silicon levels indicating a leak from somewhere allowing outside contaminants (dust/dirt)... at best around the intake box/filter and at worst, around the intake manifold... where a gasket may be blown and pulling vacuum.
Blaming low quality oil on coolant leak while there is no coolant leak
@@JustAGuy85 Silicon is added to the oil as a anti-foaming agent.
So what’s the best oil you diesel ?
What do you have?
How long did your oil sit on the shelf in the store before you bought it
Who knows, there is no production date on the bottle
@@repairvehicle might of been on the shelf a while I've got mixed results randomly from oil test to with t6 5-w40 most the time it's good but once in a while it comes back with more wear then normal only thing I can think of it being is the pails I buy sat in the store longer then it should have I have a Cummins to 5.9 tho only run t6 in it got more wear with regular 15w40 and even against ams oil t6 did better try with a few different test you'll prob get the same results think all oils are that way tho hit and miss of how long they sit on the shelf
@@repairvehicle I change mine every 5000km or 3000miles don't trust running it longer then that especially in a diesel tuned as well
@ErikKoenig-fv3nr you just not goin to get good results with low price oil. Quality oil doesn’t come with low price. McDonald’s hamburgers cost less not because they are good quality but because they are low quality. What were the numbers for iron with t6 and amsoil?
Bruh, a 6.7 liter inline 6 Cummins is the same displacement as a 6.7 liter V8 powerstroke. More cylinders yes but the displacement is the same.
What is your point? I am very knowledgeable about diesel engines
I use this oil in my mitsubishi evo.. sent sample for lab testing with good results back. Funny thjng is, the 5w-40 of this t6 isn’t even the correct viscosity for my engine.
What were your iron, aluminum and copper numbers?
You should try the Amsoil synthetic.
Why?
Try and test Schaeffer s Supreme 9000 5w40
I will test schaeffer oil but for gas engines, my diesel will only use best.
Schaeffer's makes awesome diesel oils!
@doncox8966 why Schaeffer has no data on their website to back up your claims?
I just purchased a 2022 Ram 3500 6.7 Cummins. Noticed a lot of other sites / channels people use Blackstone for their analysis and make some wild claims, at least to me, on Shell Rotella T5, T6 synthetic blends intervals. I see you use Oil Analyzers. Wondering if Blackstone has some deal with Shell vs a more independent view from Oil Analyzers in your opinion? I bought T5 for my first change at 2000 miles or less but after researching for several hours, I am leaning towards standard Amsoil HD 10W30 with their Filter or the Donaldson DBL7349. Cost wise Amsoil is only about $20 more for the oil change based on the preferred price and appears to have longer additive life. Thanks for your videos.
I have not used black stone lab but I have some real bad comments about this lab and quality of their analysis.
Don’t forget to subscribe to my channel, I have good number of videos about ram maintenance and more is coming
Have you seen my latest video about ram rear differential problem?
If deleted truck it’s better for oil instead of recycling
True
I’ve been using t6 15w 40 on my 2015 6.7 deleted for about 4 years now no issues.
Florida
How do you know no issues? Did you do oil analysis?
I will stick with AMSOIL 5w40 signature series and change at 5 to 8k 💪
I dont drain oil. I use filters that clean oil. I would love to know someone that drains Amsoil. I would be knocking on his door with a new drain pan. A guy came to my door with a new Dodge Cummins. He said put a Gulf Coast O1 on the frame and put this Amsoil in the engine. I said whats in the engine. He said Shell Rotella 15W 40. Wow I had a clean drain pan. Might need to go out of retirement for the free oil.
A non deleted cumins truck?
Truck is original without any modifications.
@@repairvehicle a unicorn?? Do these exist?
@pvmcorp , yes. Not everyone is in business making their truck illegal.
With current DEF shortages that’s going to get worse.. the delete will be an economic advantage
@@pvmcorp , def shortage rumors is another reason to increase prices and bankrupt small companies
"Im going to use this pump from amsoil"... I've seen enough.
What do you have?
A pump I purchased from west marine. They don't manufacture oil.
Honestly ive changed from T6 to valvoline premium blue 5w40 and have noticed a big difference in smoothness in my 6.0 powerstroke. I kept using T6 and archoil because that was the standard talk about on all forums. I always felt like the trucj sounded louder after about 2 weeks of driving it. That dosent happen anymore with my valvoline so im sticking with it, and to be honest it even improved my low end torque. Injectors are more responsive.
@@kylebrett1453 , thank you very much for sharing this information. I have found forums to have to much garbage information. Also, you cannot go by what everyone else claims. Your questioning attitude paid off.
@@repairvehicle no problem, what got me to switch to valvoline is im over here in Canada and during last winter i really didnt feel like doing my own oil change but it needed it. So i went to a 15min oil change shop and thats what they had. Truck ran awesome and was quiet right away, but of course it would with new oil. Anyhow, what impressed me was it still ran like that a month and a half later.
It's possible the oil test facility is at fault, wish you split the sample and sent it to another lab too. Something is wrong with that magnesium reading.
Don’t be surprised with bad results. Big oil companies no longer care about quality it’s all about profit. If you want quality you have to go with small companies. Look at big companies what they are pushing these days.
Oil test facility cannot be at fault because I have asked them to retest and same results
bahahaa your to funny
Why wouldn't you just use synthetic? ACEA synthetic is no more expensive anyway.
Because acea oil is garbage. Stay subscribed will be sharing real data
Probably from the previous oil
When will people realize that quality oil comes with higher cost. T6 is not quality oil and that’s no one has able to provide any proof.
many bmw motorcycle guys put rotella t6 in their gasoline 14000 rpm bikes
Motorcycle oil should be formulated for Motorcycles since usually it needs to be the transmission fluid too.
@@HuntsT the oil analysis shows all the rotella T- oils are very close to a motorcycle oil. It's a great and cheaper replacement.
It
No matter how close rotella is it cannot outperform or provide protection for the motorcycle like quality motorcycle oil does.
People use rotella and later end up with engine repairs because clutches start slipping due t-oils
@@repairvehicle I honestly never heard that, I started using T6 in my bike because of car oil being bad for the clutch.
The clutch was bad when I bought the bike (it would slip for a long time if you shifted at redline and went WOT immediately) but I kept riding it for a few years and finally replaced it after about 6k miles of riding with regular rotella T4. The oil didn't make it any worse. I then kept using T4 till I sold it.
But that's a sample size of 1, and it was an easy to service bike. If I owned a bike with a clutch buried in crap that had to come off then I'd probably not take my chances and use the factory recommended oil.
Never use 5/40 in a Cummins engine! The 5/40 is for FORD diesels
Why? Owners manual says you are wrong
@@repairvehicle, outside of owners manual, one have to use a brain to know why certain things are written the way they are.
@@Prachka1 trust but verify. Owners manuals are wrong for majority and forcing people to buy more not less
I used 5/40 rotella many years ago in my old Cummins. It didn’t like it and I was worse as time went on. So I switched back to 15/40 t-4 and it was happy again.
I never heard about Oil Analyzers 😅😂😂😂😂 Blackstone has credibility, not this one. Change your oil every 6 months and your good, nobody wants oil in an engine over a year.
It’s because it’s not a lab, it’s place where you buy a kit, Polaris laboratory is iso certified and black stone is not iso certified and has zero credibility.
Lab not iso certified has credibility? You must not care about credibility.
Here is the list of places you can buy kit to have iso certified lab analysis done polarislabs.com/retail-partners/
The T6 is full synthetic and they don't add as much additives with higher quality oil in this line of product. T4 has much higher additives if this is what your looking for.
Your statement is incorrect, you need to watch my videos where I show a breakdown diesel oil vs gasoline and how much additives goes into making
This video has details to prove that you are incorrect
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Emissions equipment intact......explains everything
Emission equipment helps trucks run perfectly and not like it’s carburetors that does not measure how much fuel it needs
@@repairvehiclethis comment invalidates all of your research
your uneducated
That’s why I only run Motorcraft in my 6.7 powerstroke.
It’s even worse than rottela. You must hate with passion your 6.7 to use such low quality products in it.
@@repairvehicle then what should we use
In what ?
@@repairvehicle 6.7 power stroke
You want best protection for your 6.7?
U should get a electric truck and forget all those oil thing 🫠
I don’t need electric trash, it’s only for brainwashed people. Even electric trucks have gear oil and other fluids and filters that need changed.
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ONLY USE SYNTHETIC MOTOR OIL AFTER NEW ENGINES ARE FULL BROKEN IN AND THE RINGS ARE SET SO USE CONVENTIONAL OIL FOR AT LEAST 2000 MILES THEN USE ANY SYNTHETIC ENGINE OILS ###
full synthetic oil is not even synthetic