The HARDEST Golf Course in the World! (Bethpage Black)
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This course was hard. What course do you want next?
Let’s goooo‼️
Grass is still green and holes are the same size. You got this! Here we go!
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I think you got to head over to Marco Simeone (this year’s Ryder Cup venue) in Italy and take it on. Watched Peter Finch’s video and that rough looked brutal 😅
Good Ole Bethpage. Welcome to Long Island!
Edit: That birdie on 14 was nice.
Edit 2: Just wanted to share a quick story: Everyone always said my uncle was a great golfer. In the past few weeks I have been spending a lot of time with him because he was sick. I learned that he once shot 2 under at Bethpage Black. He passed away yesterday from cancer, but watching this was like walking the course with him and being proud. Nicest man I ever knew. Love you Uncle Chuck
Sorry for your loss. Condolences. He must have been quite a man to shoot two under on this beast.
My best to Uncle Chuck, you, and your family.
Blue skies, uncle chuck. Next birds for you dude.
Condolences and sorry for your loss. Lost my uncle two nights ago, he was 80 and loved playing golf. He has a best friend that he has known since 2nd grade that is in Scotland playing golf. Augustine found out this morning that he has lost his life long friend. My uncle and he were so connected, like twins are.
My condolences for your loss. Sounds like a great man and even better Uncle. Best Regards, Kris
your love for golf is absolutely infectious. "I love bunker shots" "I love Driver off the Deck" "I love getting to hit full short irons". I would feel so at ease if I were to get to play a round with you. even though I'd shoot around 100, you'd probably just be an unstoppable positive force the whole time. you consistently make golfing look like the best thing in the world.
hmm maybe that's why I've been wanting to play badly lately since watching this channel. his love for golf has infected me some lol
Please stop blowing him so hard 😂 this dude has always been a douche
I can’t tell you enough how much I enjoyed watching you play this course. This is by far my favorite round of golf on CZcams I have ever watched. I could say it was the course that made it so special, but in reality it was watching you enjoy yourself. You remained positive and focused while keeping your enthusiasm in check throughout the entire round. This is what the game of golf is all about, simply having fun! Can’t wait to see what lies ahead for you on the PGA Tour. Keep up the positive attitude and the great golf play and it won’t be long before you win your 1st tournament and major. Well Done!
He cheats though..check out 10:00 and 10:16...a buried ball is magically fluffed up when he hits it.
no I don't think so The first shot when landed it was downhill You couldn't see where it trickled out to i doubt seriously he cheats what make no sense@@briannevs3422
I have to agree with you. It totally disappeared in the tall grass then miraculously the ball is sitting nicely lol😂😂@@briannevs3422
@@briannevs3422 I dunno about that one...the camera angle is very different. You're assuming an awful lot..
If you’ve ever been to bethpage and you have eyes, you can see the ball completely dissapear into the rough, which bethpage is known for. The shot he ends up hitting is sitting up pretty. Doesn’t matter what camera angle ur at for that type of thing, you would see the ball sitting up. He cheated lmao.
Now living in Fort Laudy FL, but born and bred NYC not 30 minutes from Bethpage, it’s so nostalgic seeing content like this !
Believe it or not growing up as a NY state resident I never paid more than $75 to play BP Black. Oh how spoiled I was having an all world, Tour & Majors used ( and upcoming 2025 Ryder Cup ) track to play pretty much on the regular and whenever I wanted.
Every year as the golf season came to a close, due to winter weather in the NorthEast, there was nothing like playing BP Black to measure where your game was. That track is a true & absolute golf barometer.
Now living in Florida for 10 years there are very very few things other than proper bagels & pizza that I miss about the GulaG that’s better known as New York.
Seeing content of Bethpage State Park, the national treasure it is with its 5 tracks, floods all of the greatest golf memories I have growing up there !!
All great courses there. Bet u played it before the first open. Now that was torture
It’s super subtle, but Grant’s mental game is absolutely incredible. Hits it into a bunker on a par three “i love bunker shots” starts bogey, par save, par save slaps his next drive into the thick stuff “Havent seen a good swing yet, but these are the fun days, these are the days where we just keep grinding” honestly incredible, wish I could play that loose
Its a casual game with 0 competitive pressure. What makes you think his mental game is incredible?
@@Simon-nv5zj a casual game that’s going to be posted on youtube to millions of viewers, a platform he himself uses for financial gain as an individual as well, not to mention, it’s just difficult to stay that even-keeled, you don’t have to agree 🤷🏻♂️
10 mins in he chops out the bunker and ball literally disappears in the rough. Next thing he's hitting and the ball is sitting quite nicely...
Either a caddy wanting a tip, or......... Hahaha
Yep, saw that too lol can't hit great shots from terrible lies so you gotta fix it....
Mulllllltiple lie improvements in his videos. Still fun to watch
Or maybe camera angle? You’ll literally see the same thing on TV too. Looks lost in the grass and end up much better. If he was cheating he wouldn’t have played the plugged ball
Really glad I got to watch this. It brings back many memories of some very good golf and days when the Black Course just kicked your butt . I started playing the Black course when I was about 16. Played it into my 40’s when I moved my company out of Long Island NY. Back in the day we use to drive to the course at 11.00 or 12:00 midnight and sleep in your car to get an early tee time. They we’re called bakery tickets. Girlfriends and wives were not to happy with this arrangement but we were golf nuts and loved it. Thanks for the memories.
Being in the back lot at 3, 4 in the morning hanging around with all the guys was fun. Don't pull in to the wrong spot and don't piss off the guy handing out the bakery tickets
Yes your are right we treated the guy that gave out the tickets with a lot of respect and fresh donuts. After coming back every week we became regulars and good friends with the ticket guy. It got to a point that only one guy had to be in the car all night instead of all 4 of us. The ticket guy would come by our car and say your other 3 guys are out picking up breakfast RIGHT. And of coarse the one guy in the car would say sure that’s where they are,wink wink. It was a great experience at the time. When I moved out of New York and joined a nice private country club I would tell my new friends about the Beth Page Black course and how tough it was I think only a few guys believed me.
My late brother & his buddies used to sleep in their cars to play Bethpage Black. Sorry, I wasn’t never that into it. I played the others: red, blue, etc.. Miss my brother Joe
The way the shot onto the green just stopped completely on the 8th hole was so amazing and the perfect putt was for a birdie was just icing on the cake. Great golfing my dude hope to see more!
I'm 64 now and admit playing the Black many times (probably 30) and my best score is 100 (when I kept a full score card). The first time I ever walked this course was in the 2002 Open and I had not even played it yet. Length is important here and the fact that you MUST walk adds at least 10 shots alone for me. The greens are pure and you actually are relieved just to get there and make a putt. Add the wind you played in and it becomes a very difficult day. I enjoyed watching you play this course to see some of the same areas I've played into over the years only you recover well. My favorite round on the Black, by far, was when my neice came up from Florida and at age 13 she shot an 82. She was exhausted. (Thank you for the memory, Megan). Her Uncle Fred stopped scoring at the 12 hole... LOL
Why does walking add 10 shots??
You don't see it on camera but there are serious elevation changes. #4, you go down from tee box and are climbing from 50 yards out the rest of the way. Green is probably 30-50 feet above that first 50 yards, and those cross bunkers are HUGE. #14 you go down 30 feet and then back up 30 to the green. #15 tee is 40 feet below 14 green and 15 green is 50 feet above tee level. #16 tee is 30 feet above #15 green, and 16 fairway is 60 feet below tee level. It's an endurance test. Also, on some of those 450+ par 4s, the fairway is 20-25 paces wide with 3-5 inch heavy rough after a 3' first cut. Given the bunker complexes, few par 4s can be reached from the rough. I only play the whites, and I'm super happy to break 90. I'm a 9.6 index, but my course handicap is 15.
You played really well. Your positive attitude will take you a long ways in your golf career. Great job.
I learnt a lot watching this. The way you are always positive and never let even missed short putt affect your attitude. That is truly amazing to me. To have that composure. Awesome Champ.
I’m new to golf and so I am learning so much on this. But I’ll subscribe because honestly your optimism and watching you play that course really does bring to lie why the joy and the sport is really there. I get it there will be bad days as in any sport, but seriously the optimism really does help someone push through a bad day and kick some serious but great job man.
Shooting 75 on that course in the wind is impressive. Grants game is getting better each week. Keep it going!!
Cheating helps too.
@@WinstonSmith24 If you were even good enough to carry his shoes I'd get into it.
He didnt shoot 75, he cheats (see 10:00 and 10:16)
Great round Grant. I played there when I was about a 10 HCP and walked off the course feeling like I went 12 rounds with Tyson. This course will eat you alive. I think I shot like 108 or even worse. Super thick rough, a lot of blind shots, and doing it all after sleeping in the car all night waiting for a tee time. Just happy I can say I played there.
Thanks for that Grant! I got to relive my round around the Black in June 2018...yep, that's the year the us open was at shinnecock. We did a buddy trip to walk Shinnecock on Tuesday and then played the Black on Wednesday. Fantastic!!
Totally agree with the comment about walking the course. Always found that you get more of a sense of the next shot when walking especially when approaching the green.
Omg, my home town course! I played with my friends on Yellow and Red back in high school. Loved the shot of the club house entrance area...nice to see it's still the same after 20 years :)
Love the red,So underrated.
totally. the black is epic, but the red is a course you could play everyday @@gman1185
Play this course fairly often. There is no way to describe in words what the rough does to your club as you swing through. Its like swinging through steel wool
Agree. I play it at least once a year and unless you swing fast you can’t take more than a 6 or 7 iron out of it. Thickest and strongest grass I’ve ever encountered.
Looking forward to more of your videos. They are excellent, and as a good player with a good attitude you really give the viewer a wonderful interactive experience with each golf course.
Grant, what a great round!! I played this course the first week it was open ahead of the ‘09 US Open. Now I’m not a scratch golfer at all. I had broke 90 once. But walking that course with my roommate was amazing!! I pared the same par 3s you birdied and pared hole 10…everything else was triple bogey or worse. My bag even fell into the large bunker on 17!!! But it is still my favorite round of golf I ever played, and I shot a 118!!! Thanks for the video and reminding me of that great round with friend, who passed away 5 years ago!!!
Grant, this is turning out to be a great series. The extra pressure of a tough goal to "make the cut" definitely adds to the tension - but with courses like these, it's going to be a real challenge and that's cool, too. Outstanding! More more more! 🔥❤👍
The first time you play it, you shouldn’t even take a scorecard, unless you are a low handicapper and great ballsteiker
literally just walked off the black a few hours ago. ive played it 50+ times and its still amazing. never gets old. being 15 minutes away has its perks
So I gotta ask…playing on a difficult course I’m sure is not easy but doesn’t playing on something really manicured and plush make it a little easier? Just being on a championship course would seem to put you in a different frame of mind and get you really excited to hit it off beautiful fairways and nice greens..I’m jealous
@@Tom-ok2rh i will say this... being in the rough and being buried doesnt make it easy. but ull never get a messed up hard pan lie or a patchy rough lie. in the fescue its all up to the golf gods. but rough fairways and bunkers are predictable. the sand in the bunkers is so soft. its has its perks.
Bring me please!!!
Yeah but, 15 minutes away or not, you still have to go wait on line overnight to get a good tee time, right? Or have they changed that?
@@MoMoMyPup10 not necessarily. if your a single you can usually get a cancelation time the day prior to play. if you want a 4 some u can book 7 days out but its def a hard ask. last resort yes you want a guranteed premier time for a full 4 some... your best bet is to sleep out there.
What I like most; he hits a perfect hybrid to the green and the camerama man asks "What's it like to be able to do that?" Rephy' "It's wieerd man, doesn't happen all the time" all with that huge happy smile pure joy. Yep, that's a real champion who is rare as hen;s teeth. Thanks for this video made my day and I sure needed it today. Merry Christmas to all of you and yours.
That could be the most enjoyable round of golf I've watched, and certainly on CZcams. I love your good nature while playing. You have an effortless swing Grant. Mine is powerless effort haha. That is one scary course and you played it well.
Makes a golf video so much more fun when you have experience on the course. I’ve played here several times, it’s in my area and I love the love that it is getting. It really is such an amazing course.
especially for the price, cant beat the quality of course for it
My favorite course on the planet. The Black will take its pound of flesh from you. If you are not ready, it will destroy you. For those that are up for the challenge, it will be a life long love affair. For those of us from
NYC, it is the Mecca of all golf courses. It will always be the people’s course. Props to Grant for putting this on video. 🙌🙌🙌🙌
Your positivity is absolutely divine, and an inspiration. Thank you!
This guy has a damn perfect swing This is the first I’ve heard of Grant I’ve only seen this video, but looks like a positive attitude and disposition. Going to look him up
Shooting 75 at Bethpage Black, with 2 hours of sleep, with people watching, while not finding a great swing rhythm, catching a handful of bunkers. You are the real deal Grant. Hope you know how inspiring and capable you are. Well done and good luck on your future endeavors man.
Thanks for the fukin spoiler alert.
@@oaklecopel What kind if an idiot reads through the comments before they watch the video?
By far the most likeable golfer on CZcams. And obviously one of the best. What I’d give for that swing!
Really enjoyed watching a top golfer and a magnificent course. Thanks and best wishes from North West England.
If you think the Black Course is tough from where the blue tees were that day, try playing it from the white posts which represent the yardages that are on the card. They never have all of the holes playing from back there for the public.
For example, the back teebox on the ninth hole is never used in all of the times I've been there...over 100 since 2003. It's a good 40 to 50 yards farther back. On 10, the card shows just over 500 yards, but the blue tee is rarely any longer than about 480. He played the par 3/3rd hole at 208, but the white post yardage is 230. It looks like he played the 18th from the typical blue tee location. The white post is about 50 yards further back.
So if you think it's hard from where he and we the public play it, imagine what it would be like playing it from all of the yardages on the card...7468.
With that said, he still had an excellent round.
I've played this course in the UK in virtual golf but without the wind factor. Thanks Grant for making it come to life with your excellent commentary.
Gonna be an all-time epic Ryder Cup next year at the Black. Those fans almost made Sergio cry in 2002. Your boys are going to need some very thick skin that week 😉
The positivity on this dude is just amazing. What a legend!
Yours and Ernie Els' are my all-time favorite swings. It's just so smooth and fluid, it seems like you're not even trying. I really enjoy watching you play these iconic courses that I've seen my whole life on TV, Grant. Keep them coming dude.
@Granthorvatgolf, just started watching your teaching channel. Great job, enjoying it very much.
Tigers win at the black course in 02 is still one of my favorite majors ever. The back nine of his third round is insane. Very few courses hold a special place in my heart but Augusta, pebble Beach and Beth page black
The old course at St Andrews is also one that hold a special place in my heart. I find that course so beautiful.
I was sitting in the #18 stands when he holed out for the win in the (almost) dark. Quite the scene!
I live on Long Island and have played this course at least 50 times as a scratch golfer. Making that walk back across the street to 15 in nerve recking. Last 4 holes are brutal. My coolest moment in golf is making a 2 on 18 and a bartender coming down with 4 beers there.
Awesome course indeed! But I don't know about the last 4 holes being "brutal". They're somewhat of a reprieve from the rest of it coming in. And that's probably where the course could be a better closer. YES, 15 up the hill is probably the toughest on the course, just a brute. But, 16, 17, and 18, are not too bad compared to the rest. Especially 18 is a rather benign close to a monster of a course, and is very "birdiable" for the pros :) From the 5th hole through the 13th, you pretty much want to cry. Then the 14th is that uncharacteristic short iron par 3, which is gettable. Then they throw the beast of a hole 15 at you. Fun experience to play Bethpage every single time!
The walk is ridiculous. 16-18 may not be tough but after that 5 hour walk up and down hills you are out of energy.
And 17 green is very narrow, it’s like 20 feet deep and 70 feet wide. So it’s very difficult to hit the green.
@@jasonandkathleenbarker6306 exactly!! Yeah 17 is the toughest of the last 3 holes for sure. But, the final walk up 18 towards the green is never too much fun lol
17th is narrow, and a beast if the wing is pushing out. It’s nearly impossible to hold the green if the wind doesn’t backstop for you.
No one is mentioning that this is the host of next year's Ryder Cup? That will be off-the-chain insane. But really, the difficulty on the Black is its length, terrain (greens are fairly flat though), and highly penal rough. And that includes 18 (which I admit is a disappointing end to a total beast), where it's a must to hit the fairway. I lived on LI the first 43 years of my life and only played it twice. The first was in July the year before Tiger won in '02, and it was 104 degrees and we teed off at 3:30! Finished in the dark, and about a dozen empty water bottles later. I was simply stunned at how beautiful the course is.
This was SUPER fun to watch, great format!
Some great shots out there 🔥
Used to live down the block from Bethpage. I played this course in the 80s when it was banged up and you could get on any time you wanted, big rocks in the bunkers fairways were almost as much dirt as grass. Played it last year and sadly my last time. Its a young mans course walking it beat me up. Took me days to recover. walked off with a 89 with a 8 on 15. Green is my favorite course there.
I live 6/7 minutes from and agree with you on the Green. I have only played Black after they pumped millions into it but I have heard it used to be rough. Have to play 15 as a par 5 (5,10,11,12 as well)
Bethpage is my home course. Loved watching it through your perspective. The Red is also a great course -- it's got a better opener (it's on the left hand side of the shot at 0:26) and finisher than the Black, and its par 4s are extremely engaging.
One note: the Black plays as a par 71 (only one par 5 on the back), so your +3 is actually a 74 here.
Good Call, was searching the comment section looking for this.
Not just that but the PGA played it as a par 70 in 2019. They played 7 as a par 4
@@joshminton3951 yes i know, i live 5 min away from bethpage, play the black 4-5 times a year.
@@joshminton3951 As well as in both US Opens!
Bethpage yellow is your home course lol
EAL casually calling grant’s swing a work of art is top tier
Love the video they did together in the past. Hope they make more.
The guy is a goober
need more of these courses. pinehurst #2, pine valley (NJ), oakmont...keep giving us some golf from beautiful courses
I so enjoyed watching this video, I'm a lifetime Long Islander, raised in Hicksville and Moved to Massapequa and have been a lifelong Bethpage golf course player. When I was in High School and college (70's) we played the Black course all the time because it had the shortest wait time!!! No one wanted to torture themselves, it was harder then, than it is now in some respects. So much easier to lose balls because it wasn't nearly as manicured as it is now. I've Marshalled at 2 opens and the PGA, I love this course but ever since the opens its almost impossible to get a time,
My guess is that you are 70ish. I bet you remember lots of trees that are no longer there. I am 53 and have played 500-600 rounds (all 5 courses) with my Uncle there (73). I notice so many missing and that isnt 1/4 of the ones he that remembers. He says that it is in such better shape than it was 30-50 years ago. He has always told me that we are so lucky to have this place. I started to really realize that 10 years ago....really close for a lot on Long Island (I live less than 10 minutes away), relatively inexpensive and well maintained.
I just got back from playing Green. Beautiful day, gorgeous colors
My Dad grew up caddying at this course in his teens (1960s). Always regret that I'll never get to play the course with him. Always heard that it's considered one of if not the hardest public course in the country. Shooting 75 in the given conditions is REALLY good. You've definitely started taking your game to another level!
Interesting. My dad was a club pro on Long Island in the 60's and played it quite a bit back then. I wonder if your dad ever caddied for him?!
@@MoMoMyPup10always a possibility.
4th shot on the 4th hole was a little sus, all the sudden the ball was sitting up
So salty….sad.
Great video, nice play. Born and raised in Bethpage. Played there many times. Good to see it again. Live way out East now. Thank you.
cant get much more east
Hey Grant, would you be able to explain how the ball disappeared in the rough around 9:55-10:15 and then the next shot reveals a better lie?
camera angle. the first look the ball if far away . then when he is about to hit his shot the camera man is standing behind him. An example would be when you are driving in your golf cart and cant find your ball in the ruff and you drive back and worth and then you finally find it... and you stand over the ball and its not a bad lie and ask yourself how did i not see the ball before driving back and forth in the golf cart.
@@alleybuilds5370nah that thing was sitting up lol
Ball crosses the “line” into the darker shade of green before it disappears, then shot from behind shows his divot 2 feet back into the lighter green
100% fluffed that lie, but he’s an internet golfer, he’s gotta ham it up.
How can anyone not root for this guy! Great round man. Looking forward to the EAL content!!
Great to watch this . I grew up playing the Bethpage Black Course. We used to go to the golf course at 11 PM the night before we would play the Black course and get our car in line. The starter would come out at around 5:30am and go down the lane of cars and give out tickets for your starting time . They called them Bakery Tickets. We did this for years and I loved the course. From the back tees and the rough up it is the toughest Golf Course in the world.
Dont park in the wrong spot, it will incite a riot
That’s was awesome, great to see the course and someone with game do their best to tame it off the tips with wind.
So great to be able to see a good player on an awesome course. I remember the trouble the PGA players were having the last time they played there. The greens were very difficult to keep their balls on them and putting was tough. The course looks great. You played well considering the wind and some bad luck in the beginning.
I can honestly see Grant becoming the biggest CZcams golf channel at some point! The content is always great, and his personality keeps you tuned in! I feel that RS has gotten away from his genuine personality and content and has become too businesslike over the last couple years, but Grant is the old RS of the new group of golf content makers!
Awesdome Grant! Luv your tempo and calmness. In control dude!
It's interesting how the golf cart culture is different in different places. Here in Sweden, I have played golf for 20 years but have never even been in a golf cart! I walked every round of my life. And like you say, it's a good way to experience the golf course more. I would love to just cruise between the shots in a cart though lol.
Best golf content. What a round dude, you shot better than a lot of tour pro's would on a random day.
I love watching these CZcams guys get to play the great courses. Shout out to those courses that allow this as well.
I’m pretty sure this is a public course . I could be wrong though
@@boborris1317 It is a public course, but they could easily say "Pass" when these CZcamsrs come on the grounds.
Amazing approach on 15. I play the course every year. I’m around 15 handicap, and my only hope is layup to the end of the fairway, then launch a wedge. Bogey is a victory.
Also, on 4, the upper fairway is almost 200 yards long. You can take any club you want to keep yourself safe from the “cliffs of Dover” bunker. The further you push it, the more green you have to work with.
Great round. Good to see a great golfer grind through (double-free, no less).
I agree 100% with Grant's comments about walking and riding. Walking keeps you at a steady pace and focused on your swing, course conditions, etc. Driving a cart often gets people in a rush, rush, rush mentality and are more suited to getting drunk, smoking cigars and listening music.
Fluffed lie after the plugged bunker shot on hole 4?
That ball got lost in the rough coming out of the bunker. Totally fluffed.
Bethpage Black is truly a beast of a course. I played it twice when I was around a 1-2 handicap and I left both times contemplating why I spent all that money on lessons.
Great seeing you play in the uk Grant your the man on form watching you beat rick on the wallasey golf club course was awesome 👍👍👏
I don’t watch good content but your great attitude had me hooked. Very nice job!
Funny how the boll pop up from the ruff after your bunkershot on hole nr 4:) Good video, keep the good work
That thing was buried. Then it was magically sitting up
Definitely caught my interest as well 🤔
Pretty sure it was just the camera angle.
I just posted same thing. That ball was buried after that bunker shot!
Came here to see who else picked up on that sweet break he got there…
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I enjoyed watching you at Bethpage Black. I feel for you, I play it on WGT golf game on my phone. It feels so awesome to watch the real course. I mostly land in those bunkers. Love it. I am not a golfer but love golf. So my golf is played on my phone. Love your you tube golf. Just recently found it. Sharon from South Africa
I have played this course so many times on WGT golf game. I don't even know how many times I have yelled when playing this course. And I am amazed seeing this how well made WGT golf is how you instantly recognize everything.
love this course on WTG too! satisfying to see him hit some of the same spots as me - like into that bunker on # 4 and having to flush a 3 wood to get to the green on # 15 to go 220yrds.
10:01 ball magically lifts itself for a good lie on the next shot… 🤔
Moves itself back 2 feet too…
Its the directions they were looking at it. Hidden from the initial side, but viewable from the other. Also, the ball didn't get moved back
I’ve played Black numerous times, and I’ve been in the same spot. The ball never sits up in the deep rough… This isn’t a camera angles thing. I still love watching Grant. His content is one of the best on YT.
10:01 - lie when balls lands. 10:16 - lie when ball is hit. Maybe in a sprinkler? Hmmmm.
the course is no joke. love it every time I play (few times a year) and challenges you to be a better golfer. (ps. the walk alone is a feat)
Just played here last weekend. Awesome place awesome staff and a fun challenge
How does the ball after bunker shot disappear in the rough but next shot it’s magically in a better lie?!
The third shot on 4 9:58 (out of the bunker) disappeared DEEP in the rough, then when it cut to his fourth it was sitting up beautifully on top of the rough. Can someone explain that to me?
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Grant, I love ya Buddy, but you've got to know that the great AW Tillinghast designed, "The Black", as we Long Islanders like to call her. I assume you've heard of "Tillie the Terror", and his masterpieces, which include The Black, but also Winged Foot Golf Club, Baltusrol Golf Club, and many others. This is THE video that got me hooked on your channel, watching you play a wonderful round of golf on the crown jewel golf course on Long Island, in our back yard. I'd love to see you make your way out to the other Tillie greats mentioned above, each of which I've played, and for you to also make your way out east to play some of the other Long Island masterpieces, specifically Shinnecock (also played), if they'll let you. Keep the videos coming Grant, can't get enough of them!!
I've played the Black only twice, and both were before 2002, so more than 20 years ago. Yet I remember almost every hole quite vividly. There are any number of courses I've played many more times since then but can barely remember a couple of holes. Also walked part of the Black in 2002 at the US Open (was up close for Phil's Saturday birdie on 17!), so that helps a little, but mostly it's that it's just such an incredible and memorable course.
Absolutely right! The first time I played it, I could "see" every hole in my mind after. Took me a dozen rounds before I could do that at my local.
We played the Ivy League Championships there every year in the 80s. Great Tourney. The fescue used to be all thorn bush back then. It is in way better shape now.
One of my favorite courses now!
OH YAAAAAAAAAAA LONGISLANDS HOME@@GrantHorvatGolfs
Play it twice a year sometimes more.
Always in great condition. All of the other courses on property are awesome too
That was an incredible match. Fun to watch and very competitive.
Some really nice swings. You kept it together on a difficult day to play.
I used to play the Black every Saturday morning. First tee time after sleeping in my car with friends. Loved it!! Volunteered at the 2002 US Open.
So happy you got to play it an bring back memories from 16 years ago!! Great golf Grant!!
Help with the plugged bunker shot on 4. After he hit is out of the bunker the video shows it disappear in the rough...just bounced once and dropped to the bottom of the turf. When he goes to hit is, the lie is somewhat ideal and the ball is sitting up and nearly perfect. Am I missing something? I thought perhaps it was a camera angle that did not show a hill but am not seeing that when I review. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!
I think it hit higher and likely spun back as camera pans out. That ball was plugged as heck tho
Amazing course, but mostly what a pleasure to see the great attitude and smile, all the way..Cheers!
I grew up close to Bethpage and have spent a lot of time playing the courses. Ive played the Black more times than I can remember. I was lucky enough to play the week after the 2002 Open and the pins were still in their sunday spot. I was friends with some local pro's and we were allowed to play from the back, back tee's...The ones from sunday. It was the hardest round of golf I have ever played. Thw rough was always long but they grew it out extra for the Open. If you hit it in the rough, it was like a one stroke penalty. When walking in the rough, you couldnt see the tops of your shoes. Finding you ball in the rough was a challenge. The fairways were half the width they normally were. On some holes, you had to carry 270 just to reach the fairway. If you couldnt you were in 2 foot high fescues. The greens are unbelieveavly tricky. Its impossible to go low unless you know the course well. There are very few birdie opportunities. You must keep the ball in the fairway. If its windy you must keep the ball below the tree line and look for spots to run the ball up onto the green. No carts are allowed on the black and ita a very long hilly walk...Its a real test! I still have my ball from that 2002 open setup round. Best public course in the world IMO....
I live 8 minutes away and am at Bethpage 2-3 times/week from Mem Day to Labor Day. You can always play the tips, only white for me. The Greens on Black are some of the easier greens for a top level course.
Of the 90 holes there, which one doesn't have a sand trap?
That was one of your best videos yet. 18 holes in 30 minutes. No bs and played great. Hold your head high. Well done !
Too bad he cheated on hole 4!
Been playing there since 1980. So I was fortunate enough to see all the changes. On 15, as a 12 HDCP who no longer hits the ball far, it’s drive, punch to inside 100 then find the green with the 3rd and hope to 1 or even 2 putt
The first time I played I was so tired (hungover as well and it was mid 90s that day) that I refused to walk up 15
What an absolutely beautiful swing! Great work!
Thanks
Having played the course many times, I don't believe the full ball lies. Also, par is lower for the pros (6 plays as a par 4, not par 5).
7th hole
i love bethpage black. but the 5 hour plus round there is just brutal.
And having ti get there at 430am to get on line blows too!!!!
Grew up only a couple of miles from here. Used to ride my bike over and scarf up dozens of golf balls in the trees and brush. One of the most visually intimidating courses on top of being just plain tough.
If you normally ride cart, consider adding at least 5-6 shots to your handicap on BP Black. By the time you cross the Round Swamp Road for the final 4 holes, your lungs will be burning and your legs will feel like you have a 20 lb weight strapped on. I used to live just behind the 15th green and played that beast countless times. USGA 9 handicapper at my peak, but never broke 90 at the Black. Shot 90 just twice. The final 4 holes will just eat you up. I always try to walk the course whenever I can, and you make a good point about walking the course, but walking up to the 18th tee on a hot and humid Long Island summer day will make you wish otherwise. On a good day, you just want it to end. On a bad day, you just want to skip the hole and go home. Either way, you'll still want to go back and try again.
that is an accurate description about the walk
You sure you didn't improve your lie on the 1st fairway?
Enjoyed that immensely! Hope you get another shot at it.
Great round bro I enjoyed watching you play this course I was stoked for you on the 18 nice birdie 🎉🎉🎉
Hits shot out of bunker into ruff and ball disappears but when he goes to hit the next shot the balls sitting on top of the ruff like it’s one a tee lol thank god for editing
I noticed that too - and on a couple of other shots - love the channel but disappointed if he really gave himself better lies in the rough - the rough on black is it’s biggest defense.
Starts from 9:55. Saw that too. It would suck if he is giving himself better lies.
If you're going to be a CZcams golfer and play for a score, you got to play it as it lies. Fluffing lies is a no go.
That ball was not sitting up. The camera was closer to the ball so it had a steeper angle to actually see the top of the ball. You could see from his swing that he didn’t just pick it off the grass, he obviously swung through a decent amount of rough to get at it
@@gators9570 Watch it over a few times. I say he is playing on some magical rough ;)
Watching now just 5 holes in and noticed your lie in the rough has improved 2x already. Dude play it as it lies.
first time checking out the channel, awesone content! not sure if you do them usually and just werent able to at bethpage but drone shots of the holes would be awesome
I live in Bethpage and feel so much pride for this course. I’m not a good enough golfer to play the Black, but they have 4 other really nice courses. My best scored round ever was playing the Bethpage red course, 2nd most difficult of the 5 courses at Bethpage. I highly recommend playing Bethpage. Can’t beat the course at its price.
It is an incredible complex. Most dont realize how lucky we are
How does your third shot out of the sand on hole 4 miraculously end up sitting up on nice fluffy grass for your fourth shot, when it looked for sure to be buried in the deep rough?
was seeing the same thing.
Yeah I swear that shit disappeared when it first landed
@@isaacs.8805 oh it did I’m sure
He cheated.
Now we see why Good Good didn’t want him in their squad.
Only 4 holes in but disappointed you went with lift and place for this round. Can't do that for national gems like Bethpage