What's Inside Expensive Paddles? | Crushed Luxx, DBD, Vanguard, Kevlar, Gearbox, Engage
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- Paddle prices continue to rise and new paddles are coming out every day. I wanted to see what's so special on the inside. I discovered a few things I didn't know about some paddles, and I explored the differences between paddles.
As a pickleball nerd, I'm super excited to see more and more developments to come.
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
1:18 Core Crushed DBD
1:39 Core Crushed Luxx
2:00 Luxx vs DBD
2:27 Vanguard Control
3:50 Gearbox Pro Power
6:39 Hybrid Kevlar "The Best Paddle"
8:27 Engage Mx 6.0 Pro
10:48 Last thoughts
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That was amazing! I’m way too frugal to ever do such a thing so thank you for doing it for me. I hope the paddle manufacturers don’t get angry at you for showing their secret tech or their lack of quality. You are THE MAN, Ed Ju!!
Ed ju is the content creator we don't deserve
dope, been waiting for more of these
Awesome! Love the clip. It's pure science to see how a paddle is constructed.
those black plastic strips used to package stuff is called banding.
Great video! You guys should try cutting it with a bandsaw. That way you could see the entire insides but with a lot less effort than you showed in this video.
Thanks for making those sacrifices. Very informative.
More please! Id like to see whats inside joola diadem and crbn
Great content Ed, I started using Hesacore bc of you! But to be 100% scientific, you should cut the one that appears fine and confirm it doesnt exhibit the same core crushed features inside
Now I know why the gearbox never hurts my arm - or maybe because it’s foam inside the handle. Very interesting, thanks Ed!
good confirmation on the engage build quality
I'm disappointed seeing inside of these paddles. Materials, construction should be better given what we pay for them. Especially given short life span of the paddles. 😢
Pickleball manufacturers taking advantage of the sport's hyper growth.
Patents are expensive.
Welcome to 2024 and Throwaway Society and Pickleball Moneygrab. If you’re into personal finance, financial literacy, etc…this is the wrong sport to play lol
Just like tires, they are all made from the same materials. Marketing is King.
@@scottotf6250 Not all are the same inside. But you're spot on with the marketing comment.
Great vid, Ed. Had me engaged the whole time
Great vidoe. Looks like the Gearbox is pretty unique on the market.
Kevlar is fuzzy unless imbued with some sort of resin. My experience with it is related to kayaks. Keeping it in the sun is usually not good for it unless they put one or several protective coatings over it. It might not matter as much for paddles since they don't even last a year vs kayaks that could last 20+ years.
Bandsaw for those lengthwise cuts my man.
Looks like the limits are being pushed with the foam.
now we gotta see inside the gen 3 joola and the vatic oni
Other than the wood pieces on the handle…do u think the engage paddle faired best with the gearbox second??
I do this to all my paddles, makes for some very extreme misdirections.
japanese pull saws ftw! Does the edge foam typically go all the way around to the top or is it just on the sides? I noticed that the Engage didn't appear to have edge foam at the top.
Kevlar is significantly more durable than carbon fiber. And if it any raw surface gets wet, it’ll swell up and get furry. Carbon fiber is lightweight, but breaks easily. It’s cool to see that these paddles are pretty much just the way boats are built. Honeycomb core, foam core, carbon / Kevlar weave.
You should try a bread and butter paddle.
Honestly, Id expext more at these prices. Ikea literally used tech like this to make furniture cheaper. Pickleball manufacturers are using it to raise the price of paddles 😂.
The nicest paddle in the bunch was essentially mostly foam with some rubber.
I understand the undercover cost of R&D. As a mountain biker, I know that most of the cost of an $8,000 bike is in R&D/marketing and not the materials themselves. But $250 for these paddles is insane.
How did the yellow foam feel in the Gearbox?
Soft?Hard?
Based on insides alone, gearbox is by far the coolest!!! If an alien looked at these, they might concluded there are only two companies - gearbox and then the rest are just all different lines ups from the same company.
Aww snap the content that made Selkirk grumpy
Ed, the difference you are seeing with the DBD vs TheBestPaddle kevlar is the difference between mono directional CF (BD is monodirectional Fiberglass) vs woven kevlar and carbon fiber. You also see a "weave" in the 18k CF stuff.
Great video. I was wondering what they looked like inside. I think there are a lot of design decisions that were made with each paddle. To assume that its cheap to cover the honeycomb at the handle is not really fair. (BTW, I have no personal stake in this) As you can see there are many ways to put an handle on the honeycomb. Is it better to continue it down into the grip? Is it better to stop at the face and add something else? Who really knows? Only the designer really. Ultimately they are priced to make money. Are the expensive ones better? I guess thats for us to deicide.
wish you also dissected ben john's gen3 perseus 😊
If you a good player you’ll be king of court with any paddle. People make fun of my 50$ paddle from Amazon until they play with me lol
great video
Very interesting 😎
I’m trying to figure out why we are manufacturing paddle for the “trampoline effect”, but playing with a core crushed paddle isn’t cool 😂. And then the biggest kicker is pickleball doesn’t want to be tennis, yet the trend is making paddles that essentially behave like tennis rackets lol.
Pickleball is evolving into the drive and gouge mentality, the tennis rackets that changed the finesse and beauty of angles. If the game is meant for the young, the game will continue to evolve for power for business interests, tv. If kept the same, and put limits on the paddle power, the game will still have some (stressing same) sameness of power game and game for the retired.
How does it get core crushed?
Can you cut open a Players Pickleball paddle? They claim their gel-core reduces vibrations. The only other different core other than Gearbox's or the cheap plastic polypropylene.
if you could send me the cut in half gearbox i would be happy to glue all the pieces back together 🥲
We Use kevlar in Chainsaw Gloves. So fuzzy or Fibers. The fibers is what stops the chainsaw from cutting into the Hand. Kevlar Gloves saved my hand before.
I wish you had torn up some $25 paddles
How are the gearboxes and new joolas even legal??
Strange question
Damn The Control Luxx is so cheaply made!? I feel so used and ripped off lol
So it seems like Gearbox is the only paddle that actually has some real technology involved in it.
Yeah, rubber bands
Which one the best?
Interesting, but I did not really learn anything. Steve could use a bandsaw though....
icon v2?
You already wore out your new Vangaurd Control?!?!? Or didn't end up liking it?!????
Johnkew sent out some paddles to get cut down the center.
$30 in bulk manufacturing materials, $200 cost.
i would be OCD with the differences in the Engage paddles handle sides being different
Its called honeycomb and the dead spot is called delamination. Take a quarter and tap all over the paddle and it should have the same high pitch tone. If not its a dead spot
People that complain about the material and these being overpriced are forgetting that these paddles take a lot of research to get just right, so they go through a LOT of material, plus need the machines to create the final paddles all perfectly, plus gotta pay everyone's salary who is involved with the process. So the $200 you spend isn't just for the material, it's for the cost of people and machinery that it took to create it
(not to mention the demand of the product, companies wouldn't sell for $200+ if people didn't buy them at that price)
You are not speaking from experience. Paddles don't take much to reproduce or create, the longest and most expensive part of the process is marketing.
😂 it definitely does not take much at all. It’s all about that marketing… the tech is nothing but plastic polymer
My buddy is finding the same exact manufacturers from China & it literally costs $8-48 depending on the company/model. I understand the people, marketing, warranties, etc add up. But the profit margin on these is INSANE.
Is this what got you in trouble with Selkirk?
If it's black polymer it is probably an assault paddle
Can’t believe you’re waisting all these expensive paddles. Can’t wait to hear the take home conclusions. Are they not worth the investment?
The best Kevlar paddle, are you sure it’s thermoformed? It might just have foam around the frame? I couldn’t quite see if the Kevlar went under the edge guard
Just wish ed is getting paid by these paddle companies.
Instead of cutting them bro i will be so happy to have them my idol! 😅😢😭
Nice little worm drive saw
Yaz Steve
My friend got mad today and threw his paddle on the tennis court till you could pull every piece apart. Note he would never do this if the paddle wasn't personally his.
if you find another core crushed luxx please donate lol
🤣
Would benefit you and your audience if you educate yourself on the different chemistries used. Polymer and composite definitions would be a good start.
Literally every paddle is the same except Gearbox.. how is the Gesrbox legal it’s literally an all foam paddle 😅
wth. Gearbox basically all foam. Should be illegal like the EV paddle
All I hear is…marketing for the prices. My best guest is if you did this same experiment on cheaper paddles, these would be the same.
One would think the honeycomb density would be different, but they all look pretty much equal across the board with an exception of one.
What a great waste lol
Players are using wooden paddles and you’re destroying expensive paddles ! It seems most serious players are willing to continually buy the latest tech so the paddles only last them a 1 or two ! Meanwhile I have a 30 year old tennis racket!
seems like a personal problem
They all look the same.
Paddles are a racket, we are suckers…
it is open on the side of the Handel to release air.... hmm