Gearbox Pro Line Review | This Paddle is Ridiculous
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Timestamps:
0:00 - Intro
0:19 - Specs
4:38 - Power
9:02 - Control
10:06 - Singles
11:01 - Feel
12:33 - Control Elongated
13:53 - Sweet spot
14:48 - Fusion Shape
15:53 - Lead setup
17:16 - Closing thoughts
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That overlay video on your flick test is fantastic! Such a good way to show the velocity this paddle generates compared to normal paddles.
I've watched only a few of your paddle reviews and have to give you credit for some of the most thorough, in-depth reviews.
Chris, I played with it 3 weeks ago, and that was exactly my reaction " How this paddle is legal." In my experience, Bangers will love it.
Great video! And love the overlay comparing your DBD vs. Gearbox speed at the net. Love the value and novelty you're bringing to these reviews -- keep them coming!!! I still rock my DBD 16mm at the courts but keeping my eyes open on this Gearbox and other newer releases as a secondary paddle. Holding tight for now... but betting a Christmas present to myself is upcoming especially if SixZero releases a new line just as the holiday season hits. Time will tell.
ALL BULLSHIT - IT IS THE PLAYER, NOT THE PADDLE
Elite video! Love the speed aspects and overlapping comparisons.
Great detailed video, again, Chris. The overlay video at the net between the GB and DBD was very informative. I found it interesting that Chris Haworth switched from the GB Pro power to the control version in singles. My guess is he’s a big dude and generates plenty of power and maybe wanted to dial it back some.
Why are you making me buy another paddle?
Everyone needs another paddle
😂I feel you
I feel this in my soul
Ikr??
Great thorough review. I'm a long time gearbox user, so I couldn't be more excited to try the Pro models. You should make the switch...welcome to the dark side.
You have a very good technically oriented pickleball channel. I hope your subscriber base keeps growing and you continue to produce reviews and insight to the game.
Another great review with your unique perspective of testing. I Value your opinion and would go and buy one except that after watching your January review of the Legacy Pro and buying one without trying it first, it has never given me a reason to change.
Unlike you I have tried other paddles than the Legacy Pro and always ended back up real quick with the Legacy, like after one game. But I bought this paddle based on this and another review. My Legacy just went bad and although I ordered another I also bought this.
My Pro Power elongated was delivered saturday morning, love this thing. I had the DBD, but this feels like a definite upgrade
New to PB, your videos are very helpful and insightful, not to mention the extra step you take on your edits to show product overlaps. Keep up the great work.
Great video. I would love to see a overlay video of different spin rates. Different curve and dip patterns would be nice to see as spin rates increase. I bought the power fusion and love it, I am 70 and needed more power.
I watched the whole video and I'm not even in the market for a paddle. Great video.
Great video. The inconsistencies between reviewers are pretty astounding though I must say lol. I ordered a Power Fusion. Can't wait
Great video (as usual). And this paddle really is a beast!
I started watching this video last night, but only got through half of it.
This morning, one of my buddies showed up for our game with one of these (power) paddles. As our day started, my partner (who usually takes great pleasure from tagging other players) got tagged five times in the very first game alone (by the player with this new Gearbox).
I just finished watching the rest of this video and had to laugh at you tagging your opponents.
Let's just say that he was very pleased with his new paddle (especially since he sponsored by Gearbox).
Your comment validates what he said about the speed up. 🤭😅😂🤣
Sounds like an amazing paddle. I know you touched on it a bit in the end, but where would you put current top paddles like 6.0 DBD and other paddles? Will their technology still be relevant/competitive compared to the new Gearbox paddles or will a new wave of paddles take over soon?
Thanks for adding the lead tape directions/locations.
That overlay was 🔥 8:31
superb video. wow. you are amazing. this was helpful. question, if lead tape improves the paddle, why don't manufacturers put them on at factory?
Hey Chis, I think you're on something new here. Rebound time could be the new measurement to be added to the paddle evaluation spreadsheet. A fraction of a second is a big deal to be able to react to the coming ball.
Great job Chris. Sealed the deal for me being on the fence with the price.
I have sent your video to 2 people to watch and I decided to watch it again.
You are 100% putting forth more effort on the flick at your brother with the Gearbox. It is actually comical how much more effort.
So although you recorded a faster time, you generated it yourself. It wasn't all paddle
Finally got mine the other day...i was so excited to use it with all the expectations and I still have a few more weeks to give it a final grade...I have used 14mm DBD since April and love this paddle...i went back and forth a few times from the GearBox to the DBD and I could tell the power and the weight differences between the 2...I put the same weights on both paddles in the same spots and the GearBox had a bit more pop...had to adjust the drives so they just went over the top of the net, otherwise they would be long......I still haven't committed 100% to the GB but since I paid 275 for the paddle, it's hard to just throw it in the bag and forget about it and go back to DBD exclusively...I will give the GB a few more weeks to decide because I know what the DBD does for me already...I let a few people hit with the GB and they were astounded by the pop right off the bat...of course both coincidentally were using Engage Pursuits so that was lightyears ago in paddle tech....the jury is still out but I am giving it a good run to make my final decision
He finally decides he likes cilantro! Good job!
I bought a power elongated Tuesday and got to play a power fusion Saturday morning at Lucky Shots. He ordered last Sunday and got it in two days.
The fusion power felt like a Hyperion CFS with CRBN 1X power. A little less power than Legacy Pro, but the elongated hopefully matches Legacy. Feel, control and spin on the fusion were best I've ever played. For this much power it's ridiculous. Dwell time seems very long, even at 14mm, the exact opposite of the Black Ace. You'll love the paddle and hate the price. :)
Love the new stats Chris.
Outstanding video Chris. One unanswered question is -- if all these are 14mm thickness construction, what internal differences distinguish the power and control models for each shape variant?
It is how the inerts are laid that separates power from control.
I believe it has to do with how the carbon is laid on the face. The cores are nearly identical otherwise and the Control model is still very powerful in comparison to other paddles on the market.
It's in the direction of the fibers of the "tubes" North & South or angled like at 2&7 o'clock. That's how it's been done in previous models I believe.
Hi Chris, thanks so much for all your videos. Can you please do a review on A11N Zenith 16mm paddle(both C7 and C8)?
Hey Chris, what lead tape are you using for this paddle in particular?
I feel the same way about hand speed im super surprised the sweet spot was so bad on the fusion compared to the elongated
At 275 I'll wait and stick with my DBD as control and fast hands at the net are more important. I figure a lot of time will be needed for this power paddle to adjust too. Wouldn't mind trying it at some point this winter tho! I've moved away from power over the past 6 months and it's not about the money. Same reason I like the GRUVN MUVN 13S, control, speed, swing weight.
Chris, any updates for us on resets/drops and fast hands with the GB Power Elongated? I too have loved the DBD for an all around playing paddle, so I'm curious if you still prefer the GB Power Elongated for an all around paddle. Seems like a good singles paddle for sure.
I love my CRBN 1x. I don’t even think of any other paddle for doubles. It is indestructible and still has significant spin after 6 months and the power is acceptable.
But! I’ve been wanting more power for singles. Sounds like the elongated power version is the answer.
I’m salivating after hearing you say it’s terrifying when a overhead goes up. 😊.
As always, thanks for the review. You are the one I turn to when I am considering a new paddle.
After having an opportunity to play with a Pro Power this morning I think the hype is over the top.
No way is this a game changer that could be banned. The power is not that significant in my opinion.
I was surprised that the muffled sound off the paddle did in fact bother me. I wasn’t expecting that.
I continue my search for the perfect paddle. 😂
@@bleuShoErnso you need the sound so your overheads are scary? 🤭🤭🤭
@@ParryPickleballking-es2elLol. Actually because the sound was muffled, I kept trying to hit it harder. Hit some long. Today my shoulder is sore. 😮
I really need to play more with it to get an honest evaluation.
The guy that let me borrow it says it definitely has more power than his 006 and he has a hammer for an arm.
@@bleuShoErn you need to be careful. I hear guys all the time complaining that their elbow or shoulder hurts from using a paddle.
You shouldn't have to adjust your game to a paddle. The paddle should just work for you.
Thank you for the Super Cool review 👍🏻 after listening to you and your partner in crime. I bought the DBD 6.0 love the paddle had it for a week now ! Breaking it in or it’s breaking me hahaha ! But now for Christmas gift I think I want to add aGear box power Elongated Paddle to my backpack 🤷♂️keep those Videos coming 😎 Gear box are you listening hint hint hint 🙏
Just to confirm, you are recommended some lead tape on the throat areas of the Power Elongated?? Could you please advise? Thx.
Love the content ! Could you do a review on the Holbrook 16MM please ?
Excellent work!
Gearbox CEO: "Congrats Engineering team, you've successfully innovated a paradigm shifting paddle technology. Way to think outside the box!
Okay Marketing Team, I'm fully confident that you won't be outshined by Engineering. I'm ready to be dazzled. Tell us, what are we calling these paddles?"
Gearbox SVP of Marketing: "Pro Line"
All employees: 😑
Everyone's a fucking pro. 😑 One of my most hated marketing terms.
I’m just here to see your brother get lit up. Great video
Solid review! I just played with one and agree on a lot of the points. I have the RUBY which is my primary and waiting for the 14MM Ruby which I believe will be the best balance for my game. Can you do a review on the CRBN 1X 12MM Thomas Wilson edition? I'd be curious to see how that compares to this Gearbox Power Elongated. Thx Chris!
The overlay of the flick was amazing. I wonder if you are swinging harder though...
If anything, I was swinging harder on the DBD. I did this test multiple times with both paddles and the DBD never got faster than 0.3 sec.
it did look like the flick was harder with the GB tbh
Def. Flicking harder with the gearbox you can see it at 8:07 in the difference with each paddle.
How does power and pop compare to the Legacy Pro? I suspect they are similar.
Great, great review as always 👍🤗👍
How much and where did you lead the Power Elongated? Thanks , great Vid!
Hi. Could you make a comparison/review between Gearbox Pro Power and Gearbox CX11E Power? Which is a better paddle in terms of power, control, feel, speed, etc ? Hope to hear from you soon. God Bless.
I can’t believe gearbox didn’t give a code for pbstudio. I would think the hype around this paddle is primarily due to Chris Teasing it. Based on the comments in discord over the past few weeks I would think this has been the number 1 paddle being discussed and asked about in messages by far. Thanks for the review Chris. $275 feels like a significant outlay for my current skill level, especially if it ends up being challenged and the production version isn’t as hot as the demo you obviously got. It feels like a very odd rollout strategy, and I will hold off on seeing what happens with pro games. No point in dialing in a paddle that is illegal, or gets reformulated very quickly. But if it somehow is legal with MLP onsite deflection testing, it sounds like it is worth buying one ;)
I agree with you in terms of $275 being too steep, but many amateurs will be willing to pay it because of the promise of 'power'.
I’m a dealer and can’t get my hands on them.
What discord channel has this discussion?
@@jamesaguirre2537 I want to try when you do. Haha 😂
@@BulletproofYourBody lol
How does this compare to the prokennex black ace? Its the one im currently using i feel like the paddle has pop like no other
In the case of the power is the extra 1/2 inch of length worth the jump in swing weight from 110 to 119? Unless you specifically want a high swing weight, I don't know if I would want a 110 or 119 swing weight.
Which of the four paddles do you think has the most similar characteristics as the cx14 ultimate standard size
My DBD just got delaminated/core crushed. Guess I’ll replace it with this! Thanks for the videos! Wish there was a discount code thou
How do you like it?
More power and pop than labs 002 or power air?
Love the review! @PickleballStudio will you be reviewing the Spartus Ballista V2 soon?
You need to watch Building Pickleball’s video with Gearbox founder & CEO Rafael Filippini who explains and shows the technology behind the Pro series of paddles. Very interesting and informative. 🏓
Rafael is brilliant!
Like you said, the Control has been effortless! The fusion takes some time to get used to coming from an elongated, but just insane the confidence they bring.
Did you buy them or just try them?
@@ParryPickleballking-es2elI own both the control and power fusions
Do you like the Fusion or Elongated better?@@lukebergman19
You prefer the power fusion over the elongated?
@@bryanmillayes5902I’m really liking the elongated at this time!
Oh man, Chris, the timing of your video couldn’t be better! Yesterday, due to flying from CA to MI all day, i was playing phone tag with Brandon at Gearbox who was calling to arrange for my payment of my Pro pre-orders! I was planning to go with the Fusion control and power because I’ve been loving my CX14H red (the blue ultimate was too heavy), especially in hand battles and resets. Like you, swing weight and hand speed is important to me (tried the Legacy and felt like i lagged a bit in hand battles). But after watching this video, I’m re-considering my order and changing it to the power elongated. Was planning to get 2 paddles so might now get the Elongated power and control to compare. Or should I get the power in both elongated and control???? Thanks again!!! Calling Brandon later this morning.
How would you compare Pulsar R1 vs DBD vs Volair Mach 1?
Hey buddy. Thanks so much for the review! I have a DBD and love it. I was looking at getting a second one as it is getting a bit old and I don’t want to be without a paddle mid game. Should I buy this or stay with the DBD?
If you know you like the DBD, I'd say stick with it. Unless you are wanting to try something new. This Gearbox is pretty different.
@@PickleballStudio Any idea when the new Six Zero paddle/s is/are coming out by chance?
Chris what is your lead tape setup on the gearbox pro power???
How does the Gearbox Pro compare against the Black Ace by ProKennex?
Overlaying to illustrate ball speed? My man, well done :)
Aight let’s do this then 😊
how many weeks does it take to receive Gearbox PPE after placing an order in their site?
I have never seen Josh miss a shot before, so it must be a fast paddle. The ball deflection angle on Eva paddles is significantly different than standard paddles. Was the ball coming off this paddle pretty standard or like the Vice?
much hotter than regular paddle IMO, but a hair below EVA.
Chris, Do you know why these paddles are not on USA pickleball's approved paddle list on their website?
Because Gearbox didn't want them to show up until the were released. They will appear the next time USAP updates the database.
@@webstermiller7765 Still not on the website which was updated yesterday.....things that make you hummmmm????
Has this paddle passed or failed the face compression test where many are failing?
Hopefully they come out with the demo... Seems like a fun paddle, but I'd definitely need to try it first. Definitely intimidated by the power.
Who doesn’t want a 0.1 sec advantage for about 3 Benjamins once said and done. Not only powerful but seems sneaky silent with its quiet-tech sound tech.
I wonder if it just as difficult to hear and respond to a ball like I’ve encountered from players using a Vice paddle.
How do you like this compared to an "Invicta power Selkirk"?
Like a dog drooling over a big juicy steak. I would love to try this paddle out. I’m a huge Gearbox fan and surprised they don’t have any pro players using them.
Would like to get it, but sadly they do not ship to Malaysia.... :(
What's the difference between the Pro Power Elongated and the Pro Control Elongated? The specs are identical on GB website.
The core is tweaked to change the performance.
How much lead tape did you add to the throat on the pro elongated
I’m interested in one now!
I had heard some pros (with other sponsorships) were complaining about the Gearbox new technology...Are these paddles now under review by PPA or maybe USAPA? Can they revoke the approval for them after having approved them already?
I’ve been playing Gearbox since day 1, and this paddle is subpar compared to my other paddles (CX14, CX14e, CX11). I bought the Pro Series the day it released, and within a week I had to get rid of it. I’m not bashing Gearbox as I stand by my other paddles, and all I can think of is that somehow the paddle I received was broken. Waiting for someone in my group to get one so I can try it again.
Great review, thanks.
@Giveaway-winner-DM_ Hi there, what is this DM?
In my opinion, if gearbox wasn’t going to add any more to the width of the paddle, they should’ve added to the length of the handle itself. It’d be like the selkirk invikta to the selkirk mach6. Still, I hope they come out with a standard, quadraform shape of the pro in the future.
How are the vibrations? I haven't been able to use previous GB paddles because they aggravated my pickleball elbow.
On the power model, muuuuuuuch improved. The control model still had some of those harsher vibrations in my opinion.
@@PickleballStudio Thanks. Loved the video, by the way. The high speed measurements and the superimposed video segment were awesome.
How many grams of lead tape did you add to the pro elongated version?
On the overlay paddle test it is apparent that you do not follow through on your flick with the 6.0
i see the selkirk lux in the video.. will you be doing a video on that too??
Yup!
Have you heard reports of anyone having ‘air bubbles’ in there paddle? I got mine this weekend and it seems to have some. It was super disappointing considering I waited 7 weeks to get it.
Did I miss it? What spec wise is diffferent from the power vs control? Other than feel?
the hardness of the inside and carbon fiber creates more or softer power. The CEO actually demonstrates the way he angles the carbon fiber in several different models creating harder vs softer surface outcomes. All use same carbon fiber but dif angles, pretty neat
Is there any way your spreadsheet online can be downloaded ?
any idea on longevity for spin? $275 hope it has long life!
This is really good opinion piece. I find your opinion on the fusion a little bit harder to believe, simply because of the statistics and metrics that they displayed on John Kew’s paddle database
Consistently the power fusion was outperforming the power Elongated, in serve speed, as well as hand speed and punch volley (pop/touch)
Ok this is interesting. They shaved a half inch off a paddle, WHY? Is it really making that big a difference in swing speed? Six Zero has a curved top specifically for this reason. So obviously they found similar data in testing. The truth is in the stats on this one, I tend to agree with you here, and I never would have considered a shorter paddle simply because of net play but here we are.
Have you spoken to John Kew or STS Pickleball about the Fusion sweet spot? Both of them only had positives to say, so curious where the discrepancy in the reviews stem from.
I spoke to John. Not sure what the differences would be. I didn’t care for the Fusions though. I’m sure some of it comes down to preferences.
I was particularly surprised since I’ve enjoyed shorter paddles recently.
Appreciate the response! Might see what else drops this Fall before pulling the trigger on the Fusion
How much lead tape did you add to the bottom
Cool overlay comparison
I have seen interviews with Rafa (the owner of Gearbox) where he said that the line that you see around the perimeter is not an edge guard,. He said that it is just paint and the line that you see is where they mask it off. Also, it seems like calling the face "raw carbon" is a bit misleading. It's raw carbon covered in resin. Rafa said the textured face of the paddle is actually a result of their molding process, and an alternative to using a peel-ply sheet that most of their competitors are using. He claimed that it was very durable and would not wear out like the peel-ply faces.
Played a game with the power fusion today and it was good but kinda hated it. I didn't feel anywhere near as powerful or as poppy as a CRBN 1X I hit with right before it. The sound made me feel like I was miss hitting it as well. Wouldn't even spend $100 on this paddle.
I think the gearbox pro power elongated paddle is a great paddle.
My thoughts on the Gearbox elongated pro power pickleball paddle.
The Gearbox elongated pro power pickleball paddle is a power paddles and if you want better control of a power paddle then you need to add weight around the whole pickleball paddle which made mine a power paddle and a control paddle. I added 11 three ounce stripes around my pro power paddle.
Also the reason for adding weights to ANY paddle is so that the paddle does not seem lighter than the pickleball itself when hitting or striking the pickleball. which without weights makes ANY paddle harder to control. I prefer to use any paddle that is not dominated by the pickleball itself when striking the pickleball which is why it is good to add weights to any and all paddles. and adding weights around the paddle also increases the sweep spot of the paddle.
You should review the Holbrook power pro!
you should test it blindfolded bottom down and given 5 different paddles
Which is better ? Forza or gear box pro power ?
I'm curious as to how this compares with the ProKennex Black Ace 🤔
I'm curious about the same thing. I've been playing with the Black Ace and love it. I'm curious if this Gearbox Power has a little more control than the Black Ace?
It does have more control than the black ace DDR@@elvnprince
@@unsweeticedtea4139 cool, that's awesome to know. Thanks!
So when do the wood paddle leagues start forming?
Excellent idea
People are sleeping, was on a Perseus 16 and now cx14e ultimate power and I’m not switching back. The levels aren’t even close.
PLEASE! Is this as good as everyone is saying that it is? I am torn between the Gearbox Pro Power Elongated or the Engage Pursuit Pro MX 6.0? Anyone please give me your opinion.
It depends heavily on the person. Can’t really answer without knowing play style.
@@PickleballStudio Lots of spin, 2 handed backhand and I am looking for more pop at the net? I am playing with Ronbus Pulsar now.
@@hothair5156you're describing me too...I'll likely get the Gearbox at some point. I wanted to love the CX14e that I played with for a while, but it just didn't have the pop I wanted. I love the idea of different internal technology and a paddle lasting longer (thus the reason for my CX14 purchase)...so this seems to tick off some of the other boxes.
Short answer… No.
I had a mx6 and this morning played with the pro power.
I was looking for a power paddle for singles. This ain’t it. I would stick with the Engage.
At least before you drop 300 on it, try one out. Several people have one already.
How does the power compare to the Black Ace?
Similar levels of pop, but higher power on overheads/groundstrokes on the Gearbox Pro Power
Will someone please explain to me why my Gearbox Power Pro Elongated has no power and even less pop? I have never seen a paddle got such great reviews so I had to buy one and I am EXTREMELY DISAPPOINTED with the paddle! What am I missing? I am a 5.0 player and I hit with a lot of top spin but my volleys had less pop than my Ronbus by far!!! Not happy at all with this paddle!!!
You got a dud. Same with me -- my pro power fusion felt like a control paddle. Ended up returning it. I may try some demos from Gearbox next month, but definitely not $275 based on my time with it