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Remote ID Flight Over People - Remote Pilot 101
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2024
- Hey there Remote Pilot 101, Today is video three in our five-part series that will break down the new rules and regulations from the FAA. Today I will cover flight over people.
Continue watching the channel for more videos about the upcoming changes!
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Hey Jason, Just for the fun of it I calculated foot/pounds of kinetic energy for a Mavic Mini 2 and a Phantom 4 Pro, v2. Here you go...weight in grams and speed in miles per hour for each. I suspect the weight pf the Phantom from DJI might be without a battery.
7.3699 ft/pds = 250 grams at 20 mph (Mavic mini 2)
40.5344 ft/pds =1375 grams at 20 mph (Phantom 4 Pro, V2)
10.1336 ft/pds = 1375 grams at 10 mph (Phantom 4 Pro, V2)
Yes, it doesn't make much sense now and difficult to calculate. This is primarily for drone manufactures to start labeling their aircrafts with particular categories as they release newer versions. In the future at least the consumer will not need to figure this out themselves. We will just be able to just go out and buy a Category 2 drone.
Thanks for adding some insight into the new remote ID regs. I'm going to offer up a little info and a question as follow-up... First 11 ft-lbs can be viewed as a weight of 11 lbs falling 1 foot, or 1 lb falling 11 feet. Similarly, 25 ft-lbs can be viewed as 1 lb falling 25 feet. With that said, it doesn't take much elevation for say a Phantom 4 Pro drone (weighing almost 3 pounds) to exceed the limits above. Now, put that drone at 300 feet in the air and you can envision the results. Which leads to my question... does the rule apply only to the payload, or does it include the drone as well?? In my reading of the rule, there is no distinction. So, taking it one step further, and I'm already aware that parachutes are being made and used on drones, does the new rule lead us in the direction that all flights over people will require drones to have fall protection devices such as a parachute? Looking forward to the input. Thanks, be safe!!
Helpful explanation, but what am I missing? Mainstream drones (Air 2S, Mavic 3, etc.) all have exposed rotating parts - so where do they fit in to the categories?
It will be interesting to see what types of drones are put into respective categories in the future. I have seen some interesting drone designs where the drone is designed to break into pieces upon impact with an object which would effectively reduce the kinetic energy being transmitted. I think there is quite a bit of room for design development and growth in the area of making drones safe under the rare instance that the do just fall out of the sky. I do wonder if statistics on how often modern consumer/prosumer drones just fall out of the sky was analyzed by the FAA for this rule. It seems like everything is geared towards the worst case scenario of a drone falling from 400' AGL which may be a very rare event.
As with anything out there regarding regulation and actual capabilities, drones are far beyond what the current regulations allow. Flight over people shouldn't be an issue, I also agree with Ken on the "amazon rule". Interestingly enough Amazon's drones are 80lbs versus the majority of DJI or Autel drone which weigh far less. Either way the amazon drones are coming, they have lobbied the FAA with over $9Million dollars. I read the final rule and to fly over people in each category it mentions "the small unmanned aircraft
must not contain any exposed rotating
parts that would lacerate human skin on impact with a human being". While on first though this makes sense but adding this is overkill. Especially since most likely a crash is result of a mechanical or system failure. In that circumstance usually the props would be shut down or not functioning. Therefore any situation that may cause a pilot to crash directly into people is more likely to result from a pilot not controlling the drone properly. In my opinion if your operation is over people, or around people you should not do so until you have the proper training and have practiced for that skill.
This all sounds like a bit of a dogs breakfast and requires a lot more thought before enacted?
As a Part 107 drone pilot I'm worried for "the people" being flown over, i.e. the general public, and for Part 107 pilots too. The variables in the free-falling body equation are knowns, UAV > 0.55 lbs & < 55 lbs flown up to 400 feet above surface, that can also fly laterally up to 87 knots? When an eagle or other event strikes is the drop vertical or an arc on the way down?
What about VLOS versus BVLOS? Out of sight out of mind?
As mentioned below, it certainly sounds like fool-proof parachutes will be on order beside on-board beacons broadcasting UAV positions, for all Part 107 flights in a couple-few years?
I am no expert that 11 lbs of force would be like a 500 gram cinewhoop. 25 lbs would be a mavic size drone
I would think we need to leave it to the manufacturers to get agreement from the FAA which category each of their specific drone models fall into. It would also seem sensible to require rotor guards for flights over people to minimize the potential for laceration injuries.
Jason, Youtalk about "Ducted" rotors like on many smaller toy drones and som of the FPV drones. Isnt the same true for quads with prop guards? Im thinking thinks like the Moni or the Moni2 which have custom prop guards.
Youre videos are so helpful Jason, not only intially for passing my 107 (just renewed recently as well!) but for understanding these recent changes.
Hey Jason. The rule says "weighs less than 0.55". Is that pounds, ounces, grams???? What category would a mavic pro fall into? What is "sustained flight" compared to "transit" flight??? I'm a little disappointed that after all this time getting feedback from the public, this is the best they can do?? It's created more questions than answers.
hello jason i am in massachusetts and new fairly new to flying and i love it... i watch videos with youtubers that say recreational pilots can fly at night..i still have not because on airmaps app still says do not fly at night..could you elaborate for me please...thank you
General Radio Control Hobbyist: "We have an 80 year long safety record"
Amazon Pizza Delivery Drone Service: "Crickets......"
All this has been foisted on we hobbyists without so much as a RISK ASSESSMENT being done...How do I know this ? Because I filed a FOIA request months ago and received a response not long ago...That one was never done...
I know why. Because it's the Amazon Pizza Delivery Drones that are the new risk and they don't want to be bothered.....
Unjust rules are not to be followed but challenged....Brace yerself shiny.....
Vic Moss photo looks great on my dart board
If this is so isn't the airspace going to get busy with delivery drones eventually?
Forgive me for being "green" but doesn't "contain exposed rotating parts" include the props? Every drone contains exposed rotating parts that could potentially lacerate on impact.
You're not green. I've flown drones for over 3 years and I can't think of any drones without exposed rotating parts. Like, do prop guards remedy this or not?
many pilots fly over people whom they consider part of their crew. I have seen many wedding, and out door camping, hiking, and even construction drone videos of drone flights over groups of 6 or less people. How did they get away with that other than listing them as part of their crew?
It seems that it would have been more beneficial to have placed known drones into these category's for reference and ease of understanding. Like what is the Cat. for the MIni cat 1 or cat 2. Seems like it would be a Cat 1 but isn't ducted so then would it be a cat2 then. Where does the M series fall and so forth. They wrote it that way to be confusing.
Yes I agree Jason, that these categories are for the big guys and to pave the way for them. So as of now can we fly over people with tiny whoops?
Depends on what airspace you're in, and what type of operation you're using. 9/10 times you will require a waiver to fly over people and a nice insurance package.
You leave out so many important details. I simple wanted to find facts and they were no where to be found here. Not be negative just saying. I have no idea.
gawd you are good looking. Love your smile. I don't care what 11 pounds of whatever is I can listen to you all day. hahahahaha.
Weird...