RC-One : Finishing Touches, Engine Install & First Rides! : RC1 : Part 08
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- Finally, the RC-One is gonna run! This mega-episode includes all sorts of tasks to finish the installation of the Malossi engine into my Chinese scooter. We'll start off with a complete disassembly and cleaning of the DellOrto VHST 28mm carburetor before it's installed on the motor. Then the wheel hub, rear disc brake and Yamaha Aerox wheel can go on. The old TPR 86cc comes out and the RC1 goes in! Then the hydraulic rear brake gets plumbed before setting up the throttle cable. Next, an EGT bung is made and welded into the exhaust before the pipe installation. The cooling system is plumbed and filled just before the scoot is ready to run and goes on a few shakedown rides.
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0:00 Intro
0:27 Carb Disassembly & Cleaning
10:56 Carburetor Reassembly
15:30 Carb & Air Filter Install
17:06 Engine Mount Tube
18:51 Rear Wheel Hub & Brake Disc
22:50 Spacing Issue
26:26 Rear Fender
30:49 Aerox Rear Wheel
34:26 Engine Swap & Sensor Issue
36:40 Rear Brake Hose And Lever
43:15 Coolant Hose & Odd Jobs
45:19 Throttle Cable
51:19 EGT Install
57:00 Exhaust Pipe Install
1:05:08 Cooling System
1:09:00 First Start & Float Height
1:12:48 First Ride & Impressions
1:15:14 Front Wheel Swap?
1:18:20 Second Ride & Issues
#FirstStart #EngineBuild #TwoStroke - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I found your channel when you redid your garage when I needed motivation to clean mine. Glad I did because you have a sweet freaking scooter. I have an old spree with a big bore on it that's been in a shed for the last 3 years. I'll probably revive it here soon.
Pretty cool that you stumbled on the channel that way. Glad to give you a bit of a nudge back toward scoots!
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I have learned so much from your videos over the years and your attention to detail has helped me more than you know. I don't ride scooters but my boys race quad has a scooter motor and I love watching you because I pick up on little things that can give him an edge on the track even if it's a totally different engine and setup.
Nice to finally hear it running! Good job on the build.
It was fun seeing the excitement after that first ride. Sweet scoot!
I had a similar design carb on my RS125 (VHSB37). You have to be very careful with those rods that keep the floats aligned. I had one of them slightly bent during assembly which led to floats being stuck midway and during test drive my carb floated straight on the ground like crazy. I'm so excited to hear this thing run and now I should continue watching to the end
Brent! As always I am so very grateful! And also, I am so happy for you! Very well done, I wish you a ton of happy rides!
Alicia from Sweden.
Thanks Alicia!
Thoroughly enjoyed this and to see you so happy with the power at the end was great!
Thanks Milly!
I thoroughly enjoyed this video, very informative and helpful 👍
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
Sounds really good. It sure put a smile on your face after all that work. 👍
Thanks Bud! If all scoots ripped like this, they would have called them Twist N Grin instead of Twist N Go. 😁
That thing sounded CRISPY as heck!!!!!
Wow. Amazing brother
Ayyeee you finally got her built!🙌🏾
That was great to watch.......and that dog 🤣😂🐕 just crack that throttle 💪💪
The scooter has definitely improved from the initial tuning.
I always wanted this kit.
MXS70 CYLINDER KIT.
They claim 29bhp out of the box!
Obviously huge carb and MXS exhaust.
I contemplated building a 50cc mhr.
I know someone who raced one in a scooter.
15-20bhp
Looks sweet man.. Very inspiring
Nice👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻..2t lover from malaysia🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
That carburetor looks like a great updated version of the keihin style you see on Chinese scoots. Manual choke is preferred, although I see the benefits of both. And the floats are a way better design.
Magistral very good vidéo 👍
cool videos, I love watching your work) greetings from Ukraine
Nice. Thanks
great build! hope one day I will run up to the idea to build that kind of monster...thnx for Your dedication and impressive accuracy..gratings from Croatia :)
fast forward to the riding part
awesome setup haha i have a 7t setup my self
Dude I agree with you I'm going to get me a nippy carburetor for my GY6 and that's a good idea I'll do the same thing I've been following you your genius and I do the same thing all I do is tool around my scooter I'm 58 years old Steve from Annapolis Maryland keep up the good work
Thanks Steve!
Nice work best vd isee
hello !your job is very very clean congratulation
We need a Dyno stat! Shops looking 👍🏻
Best used is the 10.37 transmission.
Malossi primairy 13/44 with a stock 14/43 sec
awesome build, but i had to think twice about the choice of knifing your fresh powder coat versus just taking the cover plug and taking off 0.5mm of the side
True, the cap could be modified instead. I've had to sand a good bit of stuff that the coater left jagged and they even coated my drum brake once so removing some coating doesn't worry me. Smoothing it out has lead to no issues so far with my original Triton wheels or these.
Auuuw man saweet!! Fun build series bro, can't wait for the tune series. You can get high 70s easy
Yes, even I should be able to get high 70s from this thing. Of course I'll then be told that it's supposed to go 100. 🤣
@@49ccscoot lol I'm pretty sure there's guy in hawaii doing 100 with yamaha jogs flats only
@@dakine808shooter From what I've seen, there's prob someone there doing that speed on a Segway. 😁
@@49ccscoot lmao...I would love to see that!!
You can get keihin peak carbs with an angled float chamber, so that the carb can be angled with float chamber nice and level.
I've seen them in videos - 2stroke stuffing had one in a video I think.
I can't find where to buy them from unfortunately.
I love these engines, I had one in a benelli 491 back in 2004.
Only standard parts were the cases.
I had
Mhr replica
Nardo/ gianelli shot exhaust
Multivar
Etc
Getting the correct torque driver angles was my issue with belt slip etc
I really like your videos, nothing that haben't done but I like how you explain everything. The break pumps, in my opinion should be good, rather than buying them on amazon, go to your local junkyard and get some of big bikes, they are nissin, brembo, an all that good stuff, and for a good price. You will be gkad to nount good brakes, specially with these engines. Keep like that 🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿
On the rear disc scoots I owned, the rear line was routed under the the cvt cover a lot like the drum cables. But if it works, it works.
Makes sense. I suppose it would look cleaner. Luckily this thing is weird and ugly anyway.
They make PWM controllers that are specifically designed to continuously vary the speed of a radiator fan based on temperature. I wonder if you could use one of those on your water pump.
If you go with Malossi's whole setup, it has a pump and a pump controller and it will regulate the pump based on temp. So far so good with charging though.
Looks rapid
oh man i bet thats fun to ride
😁 Rucksanne could use one!
@@49ccscoot oooooh now you're talking. Maybe after I finish the CT70 restomod that's been on the back burner for 2 years
@@Smallbore2wheels I know how it goes. I've said I was bringing my TaoTao project back for I think 7 years now and my SSR moped with the YX160 is still just sitting around waiting to be finished and the TMAX needs more stuff...
@@49ccscoot they all add up and require time. But I'm sure you love them all in their own way 😉
@@49ccscoot that's just more video content all the other projects waiting
Congratulations on the first ride Brent. Engine is looking good. I would love it if you made a vid detailing how much $ was the whole build
Thanks!
nice to see you got your engine assembled, and put on your scooter ... hehe yes the malossi rc.one 94cc has a lot of torque, especially when you have portet the engien block ... your powder coater. sounds stupid
The powder coater will no longer be MY powder coater after these wheels. The first wheels were not a good experience, but I love the color and they've been durable. This time around, there's just no excuse for all of the mistakes, delays and cost. Never again.
@@49ccscoot I totally agree with you, when you have a company, it just has to be on point. and one should know. different between steel and aluminum ...
So cool to see it finally installed! What kind of power difference do you anticipate between this at the old TPR setup?
Malossi claims 31HP. I've seen sites say up to 24HP for the TPR kit. I don't have a dyno so I can't tell you for sure. I figured my TPR was around 20 and this will likely end up around 30.
@@MidnightCoding I must be lucky for a change, because I took it to the show after and ripped it in short bursts for hours on 2 different days. I don't ride around fast though. Most of the time I'm putting around very rich at 1/8 throttle maybe and my normal mix ratio is 32:1. No shortage of oil here.
@@MidnightCoding I use to use 50:1. Since switching, my pistons and cylinders look better. Can't say I really notice a power difference. I know that older studies have shown richer oil ratios can actually improve power from reducing friction. Not sure if this is true with current oils because I haven't seen any scientific studies. I did do my own experiment years ago and noticed that RPM increased as I went from lean to rich oil mix ratios while adjusting jetting as close as I could for the percentage difference so that should have had minimal effect.
55:01 sometimes the engine mounted flange deformed when you tightened it. Try loosing the bolts before you slide the expansion chamber.
It should slide in better
The washer under the needle is used to move the needle by an half-position, you can put I under or over the needle to make smaller adjustments
this is not true, it serves to avoid damaging the gas valve from the possible pressure and movement of the needle stop
I've always heard the same as NazzyTPR. I think I bought shims for a non-adjustable stock carb on a 4T, but wound up tossing the carb for an unrestricted one.
Such a bummer for wheel rub on the exhaust, it was visible at first mount that it's too close to the rim, too bad that you didn't noticed it ... Do you have in plan to mount an arm support for the rear wheel? I know that some high end setups was prone to breake engine block without it... You should also try to stiffen up rear shock, from jumping in the garage it looks that it is near the end, and you don't wan't to strike pothole bottoming out...and last one :D I think that would be nice to fabricate some carb bracket if it's possible to keep it more rigid, and less prone to touch the fender and scrub it :) Anyways love the project, and can't wait for an update !! Have a great time at the car show!! \m/ :)
You are the 2nd person to mention the swing arm brace. I may look into one. I'd like a different shock as well. This one has always been a bit soft for my weight, but it is pretty comfy to ride and doesn't bottom out. I'm mostly considering a different one to stiffen it up and see if that lets it control power a little more at some point.
Congratulations!
Yay for conventional (carburetors)
With the water pump, the electrical power/charging situation is fine?
So far, so good. I think I'll be OK.
Hi Man,
I really love these videos from you its really amazing to watch and I have 2 questions about that, first is what is that speedometer on that scooter and second one where did you buy the malossi engine block or engine case however you call that ??
Thanks..
Hey. The gauge is a Trail Tech Vapor. The RC-1 came from ScooterTuning.Ca.
Hello ,which exhaust to choose? I have Roost Rs5, but I have Cristifolini to buy
Nie vid, as usuall!!
@49ccScoot
Thanks for putting all together your youtube videos about assembling scoots. Very helpful and informational. By any chance do you have spare needle for VHST carb? Couldn't find any online. I need it badly :( . Thanks
Check out gforcemx. They have a good selection of them in the US at a reasonable price.
@@49ccscoot Thank you Sir! I appreciate your help. By the way, I learned a lot from your videos.
@@49ccscoot Probably going to drop them an email. I saw they only have type D needle from #01 to #39. I think I needle the default need D41 that comes with the factory Dellorto VHST 28 carb. Thanks again for pointing me to the right direction.
hey dude
what kind of radiators do you use i want these too? could you send a link
thank you
This is exactly what I used.
amzn.to/3WC4o8C
(affiliate link)
Hey man excellent video. I have the same kit I bought a wile back. Just a quick question,, how many turns out did u do the fuel mixture screw and what size main get did u end up using?, and did u leave the needle clip on the carb needle still original(on the second clip from the top. Thanks heaps
Mix screw was left as it came. I adjusted a little at the show to lean it, but it didn't make much difference and I don't know where it is. Prob not more than 1 more turn and I turned the idle speed up a little. I think mostly because it loads up 1/8 throttle and below and most of the riding there is idle and very low throttle so it loads up and then idle drops. Everything else was the same, but I haven't tuned it yet. Will get to that soon.
Yeh hey i left the carby setting as it came but it bogs alot in the begging like chokes alot when taking off, is that normal?. What can I do to make it a smooth take off if you have tuned yours yet or have an idea. thanks man
@@Isaac-pm1px I still haven't got around to tuning it and right now the weather is all hot and humid so it really wants to load up at low throttle. I can take off, but if it idles for long it will load up so I rev it to clear it out before trying to go hard. I'd think the shim under the needle clip being removed may help some, but I don't know if that makes it too lean for part throttle cruise. Could possibly use a smaller pilot, but when I looked quickly the only smaller one I saw was 1 number smaller so barely a change.
I watched the video again, and I had to laugh when I saw the hole in the seat bucket from the Electron. I imagined that in the future, you are much older. You have one less viewer by then. When you are at the doctor's office, the doctor hands you a cane, and says that you will just need it for a while. On your way back to your car, you trip on rock and almost fall. You reach down to pick up the rock you almost tripped over to throw it--when you discover it's the Electron carburetor : )
The Lectron and I are going to end up like the Man vs Bee saga.
Are thoes 3.50 x10 size wheels ?
They're 13" wheels from a Yamaha Aerox.
can we get a 0-30. 40 and 50? tpr86 vs malossi94 before and after times?
If you watch my vids, you know that's sure to happen in the future. I love acceleration testing. 😁
@@49ccscoot yes I've been watching since you started the 86cc
That's why I was hoping for a comparison😅
Great job on the build bud. I have a weird question. How much does you scooter weigh?
I weighed it with a scale under each wheel some time ago and it was around 225-250lb.
@@49ccscoot Cool, thanks. I'm building a race bike kit bike. I'm guessing it may weight 100-125lbs. You're a bigger guy and you're flying on your scooter. Imagine shaving off 125lbs(bike weight) and then hitting the streets...😆
@@jmrides777 Ryan's MetRuck is around 190 IIRC and he's ~100lb lighter than me. You can see us drag racing here :
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hello, if you look in the assembly manual of the yamaha aerox hub, before inserting the hub a shim must be put I do not remember the diameter, it is specific to be put only with the aerox hub, I had the vhst it is a great carburetor, if I can give you a piece of advice you should put specific aq pulverizer for 2 strokes, there are less problems with carburetion and it keeps the carburetion stable even with the temperature change compared to 4 strokes pulverizers such as he or hh.
Good job from italy!
I may have just looked at the parts diagram and didn't see a shim. Not sure that I checked the actual assembly procedure in a manual. I figured if it needed a shim they'd show it in parts, but that would make it too easy.
Thanks for the tip. Do you have a specific part number or letters for the 2T atomizer/pulverizer that you prefer?
@@49ccscooti used with this configuration: gas valve 45, atomizer aq 265, needle d44 at the second notch, float 6,5g your carburetor instead mounts the new separate floats so I don't know how to make a comparison with the old model floats, needle valve 300, I think which you can try with 4g floats of your type,this is also the configuaration that is advised by 2fast trt for vhst
@@pierluigimatteazzi2568 Thanks again!
@@49ccscoot you can safely use the 50 gas valve, a 55 would thin out too small openings, to go the atomizer aq however you have to buy its specific nozzle because the thread of the aq is also different from hh, and then there would also be another modification, looking at the carburetor on the air intake side you notice two holes with golden pads inside, to convert the carburetor for 2-stroke pulverizer (aq) you have to completely remove the pad from the right hole instead on the left pad you have to widen it with a 1mm tip, so in my opinion try see how it goes with the malossi configuration and then see whether to make this change or keep it with malossi configuration. good luck
@@49ccscoot it was 6,5 g float not 9,5g
where did you plug your electric water pump too to your cdi or battery
Battery. I use a relay that is active only with the key on and have a switch inline as well.
@@49ccscoot Can you make a video how to install electric water pump
@@rogge7846 Already have!
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So me and my friend we are trying to make universal power jet kit for moust scoots do you think it will work it will be using normal long jet that can be replaced for the preference of the rider and shut off valve so you can ride normal
I don't see why it couldn't. There are companies out there selling "universal" power jet kits already.
@49ccScoot well that means we need to make the prototype and get to work fast and hopefully some day we will be world wide
@@preslavnikolov923 Good luck! Here's an example : thunderproducts.com/product/thunder-powerjet/
@49ccScoot our idea is too keep the carb untouched and make custome adapter that will go between the carb and air filter and it will be connected via extension to the float Bol or the gas line
@@preslavnikolov923 Ah. OK. That's interesting!
what fuel to oil ratio are you using?
32:1
thank you@@49ccscoot do you have any ongoing 4stroke low CC projects i could check out? i recently got myslef gpx gentleman 200 and given its weight its got not enought power, especially considering the fact that oficcial website says that it has like 20hp when in reality its more like 11.6, so any help would be appreciated.
@@pironiero I would suggest trying to find out if the engine platform is common. Maybe there are big bore kits and other performance parts that bolt on. Ignition timing, carb tuning, exhaust and air filter aren't going to get you there. 12HP is not a lot for 200cc so maybe there's some porting and compression change to help, but it's still way easier if there's a big bore kit.
What color is that back rim???
I ordered fluourescent neon yellow (what the front wheel is), but it's something else because the powder coater forgot what I specified. 🤷♂
@@49ccscoot thank you:)
what is your top speed ?
Haven't pushed it yet. Assuming around 80MPH.
Really neat stuff! But out of curiosity, isn't the point of a scooter is to be >49cc to evade the licensing and registration requirements? Now it needs the same requirements as a real motorcycle. I mean with the money I'm sure you've put into this beauty, you surely could have bought a nice used street bike that puts this to absolute shame. Performance wise.
I actually tried to register this scooter as a motorcycle a couple of times years ago. The reply that I got was basically once a 50 always a 50 in their eyes.
There are many reasons for this and other stuff that I do to small bikes. I really enjoy it. My friends know me and know that if I had a bike that was scary fast, I'd still want to work on it. I had a turbo Mustang and poured money into it for years and I have more fun with the scoots. If you take a sportbike and work on it so it's faster... it's a fast sportbike. Not that it isn't cool, but we all expect them to be fast. This thing is so much different than what it started. To go from 42MPH tucked down and struggling to keep up with traffic in stock form to something that I'm afraid to twist the throttle too quick on from a stop because it absolutely will toss me off is just cool IMO. I really enjoy experimenting and learning and I think scoots are a great platform for that, especially if you aren't rich. Plus, two-strokes are badass. Enjoy them before they decide to crush them all or something.
PWK carburettor I mean
Be aware the longer the extension you have it actually decreases the Nm of torque applied.
As long as the extension is straight and rigid enough, it shouldn't matter. If you believe that extension length matters in that case, then you would also need to change torque based on socket length/height so every time you tightened a fastener you'd have to adjust torque settings or torque wrenches would come with their own socket sets.
If it's something like a crowfoot wrench, then it does matter if the socket is not at a 90 degree angle to the torque wrench or if you have a swivel or something that alters the angle it will matter.
@@49ccscoot if you had a 1/4" ratchet going into a 1/2"socket adapter going into a 3/4" socket adapter going into a 1"" socket adapter with a 1" extension stretching from California to Maine the Nm of torque would be decreased
@@matthernandez1737 I'll remember to keep my extensions within state lines.
@@49ccscoot that's why I love you brother
@@49ccscootany idea where I can get a cheap but decent wiring harness for a vento Triton r4 , with blinker and brake light connections
60mph top speed?
I haven't pushed it for top speed yet. I know it will go over 70 with me sitting up and not winding it all the way out in the current state of tune.
@@49ccscoot yah this monster should be capable i think also auto wheelie power nice build and videos helpful
a ddl exhaust from the dutch would be better for that engine
Polini torsion wd
I may look into them. It could probably use some extra bracing.
SO ITS NOT 49CCSCOOT AFTER AL ?
Just got the numbers switched around.
100cc????
94cc
Why do you need to know the turns of the idle screw ? Lol
If you ever service the carb... take it totally apart for cleaning... it gets you back to where you were quickly. It's not a must... but a convenience. Work smarter, not harder kinda thing.
Transmission seems too light
I have much more recent CVT tuning vids. The thing goes so well that I just didn't bother dialing the CVT in for a long time.
Polini carb is better...👋 from colombia
ale dziwny gaźnik :)
1hr & 22mins 😢
My goal is to share the whole experience and hopefully help someone that may want to see how something specific is done. That's not happening in 5 minutes... but I do always create chapters so it's easy to find what you may be looking for.
Hey Trent could you please check ya boy out!? Our passion for bikes builds are similar and I have a pretty swift setup too!
Actually looked before you posted this. Very nice. Wish I could wheelie like that. Power hops only for me.
@@49ccscoot I feel honored you noticed me seriously I appreciate the love and you can definitely learn how to wheelie if you practice at it 🙌🏾 you power up now with that set up is gonna be like 😳 love the RC setup !
@@GorrillaFastTv I've practiced some in the past. Used to ride little bikes that would wheelie in high gear before scoots, but the balance point eludes me. Since breaking a bunch of stuff in a crash (not a wheelie) a few years ago, I just don't have the desire to try that hard at it 'cause everything already hurts.
@@49ccscoot I completely understand you had my laughing 😂 when you said you hurt all over! Ethier way you gonna have to find a way to maintain that beast you’ve built! Once you get over the fear of balance point you are golden🙌🏾 ethier way you , your work and projects are still alsome💯
you ride that thing like a 4 stroke. don't be such a poonanny. hard to watch you ride it improperly like that. on or off with the throttle, that's it.
If I actually rode it like I ride my four-strokes; it would be collecting dust. 😋
thats what you get for torque spec'ing the exhaust bracket bolds mate xD why the fuck even torque them that not even needed hand tight is more than enough xD always the americans they do things so weird on mopeds goddamm and people dangling there waterpumps is just lazyness i would put it some were were its covered up and exstentr the lines a bit i realy dont understand why people do it like that fucking weird
I use torque specs to avoid stuff like that. IMO Malossi could use bolts that will withstand factory torque, since that's what they tell you to use. The exhaust is expensive. They can't splurge for torx or higher grade?
@@49ccscoot malossi dont uses torque bolt because it not needed at al mate hand tight is more than enough xD
Looked like the exhaust was touching the tyre?
It put a mark on the wheel and had to be spaced a little more. I think another washer, but it's been a bit.