Slipknot's New Drummer / Why Is Jay Weinberg Gone?
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Slipknot recently shocked the metal world by announcing the departure of drummer Jay Weinberg. But why is he gone, and who is his replacement going to be?
00:00 Intro / Story Background
00:37 Jay Weinberg's Drumming Career
01:55 Is Jay's Attitude/Character The Problem?
03:54 Slipknot's Official Statement On Jay
05:56 What's REALLY Happening?
08:16 El Estepario Siberiano
10:56 Eloy Casagrande
12:41 Simon Crahan
15:36 Mike... Mangini?
16:05 Krimh
17:44 So Who's It Gonna Be?
18:41 The End of Slipknot
19:50 Outro
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Jay: Hi guys, so i've been with the company 10 years now and was wondering if I could get a raise?
Slipknot: We would like to thank Jay Weinburg for his dedication and passion over the past 10 years.
Wouldn't be surprised, honestly.
Or.. I have this song …
😂😂😂
Don't try to think Corey would ever give up an extra cent to benefit the brand. 🤣 he's way overrated and over hyped.
Isn't that what basically happened to Deftones and their bassist?
I hope Jay keeps going as a drummer and not let slipknot ruin him, He’s an awesome drummer and really Inspiring
this dude was one of the best before he hit high school . guessing dad may played small part in that not to take nothing from Jay. I suck at guitar couldn't imagine if my dad was lets say kirk Hammet , id just throw my junk in the trash and give up . play the flute ! lol
How did they ruin him?
Of course he will keep going, what else is he going to do lol. Pick up the ukulele?
He definitely will. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he's already been working on a new band and he'll be launching it very soon.
Lmao, I can 100% tell you have never personally known musicians. You don't just stop playing because youre not in a band anymore.
Oh man, I loved Jay’s drumming. He never missed a beat. Incredibly solid drummer. Loved seeing him live with Slipknot.
I'm glad I always find you in almost every Slipknot videos I watched. Really love your videos, man! And the fact that you have watched the live concerts from long time ago? You're so cool! Who do you think would be the next drummer now? :)
@@DecimusYna been a fan since they released a few songs from their self titled album via their website. It was the first time someone ever told me to listen to some songs on the internet with RealPlayer. Then I saw them every tour they came to New Zealand. No idea who the new drummer will be. But it’ll be hard to top Jay.
@@KarlRock Yooo, fan from the self-titled album? You're really the og! Slipknot sadly only come to my country once and that's when Chris is already left. Can't even watch it live because of how far away the concert is hah. Been a long time since I saw someone mentioning RealPlayer, very nostalgic. I hope the new drummer will have a tough heart, because considering the situation currently, they really need to be ready. Hope you have a nice day, Sir! ^^
Hell I’d go even if I knew it was only for maybe two studio albums in two global tours. It’ll be better money than staying with another band that might get 1 million hits on Spotify that they’ll never see a dollar for with an album that sells less than 5000 copies that after you split it up between four or five band members you might as well just quit. I’d take it because I know I could make maybe six figures over the next three or four years however, long I would be in the band.
I only got to see him once at inkcarceration but dude was nuts absolutely unreal
A year before he was announced as the new slipknot drummer I joined a prominent indie band based in LA. While trying to find the office at a downtown studio space we utilized I met Jay in the elevator. He walked me to the office. I noticed him practicing his paradiddles and rhythms with his fingers on his leg. I asked if he was a percussionist, he laughed and said he tries. Lol.
He walked me to the office and introduced me to the building management and then told me to come by his room if I ever wanted to hang because he’s always there.
I’d seen him a couple nights a week usually outside the front of the building. We’d exchange words and then I’d go in to prep for rehearsal. Never putting together who he was or what “tours” he was prepping for. One day he mentioned having to dial in a 32 song set and being expected to show up for a string of dates and play without full band rehearsal. I thought coverband, it was Bruce Springsteen dates filling for his father. Lol.
I figured out who he was and that he was slipknots new drummer by putting together I couple pieces of info in a split second. Someone told me Ross Robinson who I have met and recorded with might be doing the new slipknot record. A couple weeks later, I spot Ross outside the building Jay and I had our space with. He’s with Jay and a few other guys. One of which was slipknots new bassist who I met at a birthday party in LA a month before.
Ross and I talk for a minute. Make plans to touch base and grab food. I go up stairs and start prepping for my night and it hits me being that I had heard the rumors Max Weinbergs son may be the knot drummer. I look up pictures of “Jay Weinberg” and there he is. “J” the nice, humble dude who first helped me find an office and always exchanged nice words.
Next time I saw him we had much more to talk about. We knew a lot of the same people. And he had also been a big fan of and done a drum cover of my old tech death metal band but never posted it.
Always a nice guy. He told me a few days before he purposed to his then gf. He was nervous. We never hung out socially, but he was always nice and always said hello, even if one of us was on the phone or in a hurry.
I should taken up his offer to hang and jam in his space. Unfortunately the timing was never right.
We’ve both since moved in from that building. I wish him well in whatever he does next. Seems like a very pleasant guy.
Such a cool story, can you tell it again?
All jokes aside, that was a cool story
Legend... thank you for sharing personal moments, j definitely deserves that energy and respect...
Beautifully written bro.
Best of luck in all you do. .
You put more love into this story than slipknot did with the news that he’s no longer the drummer
@@UNHINGED-CORP In all honesty, probably someone from knots management or team wrote the release. It’s sad, but at that level bands aren’t personal anymore. Only business. Such a bummer.
As someone who’s been listening to this band for nearly 25 years the way they conduct business is really appalling. So glad that Tank pointed how the band is basically run by Corey and Shawn along with the fact they’re now a legacy act. Whatever Jay does on the future I wish nothing but success for home especially after 9 years of dealing with the two-headed monster.
What’s appalling exactly? No one knows the story behind this or most of the others that have gone. Every band that’s successful is run as a business, no exception, if they aren’t they wont be around long. The only thing you know about the inner workings of the band is what people bad mouthing after they’ve been kicked out. As for the 2 headed monster, you seem to think everyone in the band has an equal work load, which is a joke!
@@Yosser70there is no defense. Fuck corey and fuck clown point blank period.
-they FIRED joey.
-they gave zero fucks about pauls addiction
-they screwed craig over
-now they (probably) fired Jay
😂
@@Yosser70You say this like there wasn’t a bunch of legal drama with Chris Fehn that came out recently. Maybe you’re unaware of what happened but your comment comes off as foolish without taking that into context.
@@jasoninthehood9726 Yeah, Chris tried to sue for money but dropped it, so he probably didn’t have a case. Of course others in the band make more money, Clown does the business stuff and Cory is alway the one being interviewed and the face of the band. Chris even said he didn’t care about anything other than playing live, so someone else has to do the business work and they get more money. Very simple really. The dudes an idiot, lost his friends and the best job over greed! All he had to do was turn up and play, everything else was sorted and he got paid well for it. Everyone knows clown has run the band as a business from day one, he had it all mapped out and put the work in off stage to make it happen and made them all rich. So, I am well aware of what’s happened.
I think having Simon replace Jay would be a terrible decision, not only because of how good Jay was, but a lot of people already hate clown, so adding Nepotism to the band would bring terrible PR from all directions
Well that’s probably what’s gonna happen and the die hard fans like me are gonna stick to the older albums. Jay is super nice, signed the mask in my pfp and said my last name was cool.
Based Weinberg is based, confirmed
Child labor is cheaper and Clown doesnt care what anyone else thinks. They need a drummer willing to work on prevailing union wage lol😂
@@rocknroll6396 this comment is gold.
I mean, I won't say you are wrong, but it would be hypocritical AF. Right? Jay got his job more or less due to Nepotism, too. So? Really think about what got Jay his access to the industry and to slipknot?? His father. Hard to bitch about nepotism if you are replacing someone who got their start from the same practice.
Thanks for showing Eloy some love and respect… He’s been one of the best things to happen to later era Sepultura.
With out casagrande sepultura joins the cavalera brothers lol
Personally I think Slipknot's heyday ended somewhere between Paul Gray's death and Joey Jordison's departure. There's no doubt they are one of the greatest metal bands of all time.
Just met Jay at palefest on 10/13/23 and he was the absolute sweetest guy ever to my 10 year old son who is in a wheelchair. He complemented my sons Star Wars shirt and said he wanted 1 just like it, the whole interaction was the cutest thing i have ever seen. If past bands thought he had a character problem it is probably because he was too nice and sweet and that doesn't mix well with the party life.
That’s essentially what Madball said.
I mean, come on, let’s play devils advocate. Anybody can be a sweetheart at any given time. That’s not exactly a character assessment. That doesn’t mean he’s a bad dude, but it’s not exactly evidence that he’s a perfect good one either.
I hate AJ Good!
Jay is certainly no partier, his instagram can tell you that. He just travels with his wife and paints.
Check how the Clown interacts with fans, and with handicaped people... mmmm
At this point if you're called to be in Slipknot, just hang up the phone. Not worth the drama
The money you’d make and reputation you’d gain it’s more than worth it
Because you would be in a band for 9 years minimum and make more money than you need? That would be terrible.
Who said he was getting paid? Lots of bands like paying in hugs when you're the temp guy for a decade, ask deftones
@@prodigalbrocksell your soul for a few minutes of fame.....
10 years in the band and now he's a stranger
I’m inclined to agree but the money you’d make and the status you’d have as slipknot drummer is worth the drama
Eloy has the groove man. He is a beast, he beats those drums like a rented mule.
😂😂😂
When you talk about the "bad character" of Weinberg, let's not forget that Slipknot consists of such people
Exactly. Probably why they slid for all these years.
Remember the guitarist who got into a stabbing match with his brother and was stabbed in the head? Se7en or something?
@@kanoaikawachAre you trying to tell me you don’t get in knife fights with your siblings?
It was Mick Thomson, their lead guitarist.
@@DD5V1knives? Tanks
This is all so weird. The fans are pissed and I totally understand that. No communication, everything seems extremely irrational. Corey sometimes acts like he is totally done with the band. Being a slipknot fan in 2023 is more work than pleasure. I don’t think that jay quit because of private things. Then he would have reacted in any way. They really shouldn’t be surprised if no one cared about them anymore
Corey & Clown actually OWN the band.
it's just a band, just listen to their music. Being a "fan" seem to be about being emotionally invested in a group of people's personal interactions you dont even know.
No one owes you an explanation. If you heard Taylor say he was getting divorced, would you expect him to "communicate" about the details of that divorce? These are human beings, not your dancing monkeys
Corey has ALWAYS talked like that
Why is being a fan about anything work? You don't have to be obsessed with every detail to enjoy what they do to be a fan.
Jay is a phenomenal drummer. I remember seeing them live down in Kansas. Corey Taylor on stage is always a sight to see. I think this is a realization the band is old, and different visions are not the same
Naw
Tank - I never heard of you before and barely have listened to slipknot but you’re a nice guy and you somehow held my attention this whole time talking about this band I never know
Jay got to live a childhood dream, contributed to some bangers and just maybe got out before Knot truly falls off. Not too mention he is considerably younger than most of the other members and would be overly welcomed in almost any band currently in their prime. Sounds like a win to me (for Jay) Just a thought.
Bangers and mash
I met Krimh when Septicflesh and Dark Funeral toured the US. He is a monster drummer.
That'd be great
That dude FUCKS.
and he is Austrian
I remember seeing krimhs eyeless cover way back then and that is like probably the first drum cover that made me want to drum for awhile. I had only found decapitated fairly recently and had no idea he was the drummer until this video. The nostalgia from seeing that video again kicked in hard.
Krimh way better than Jay
@@behindthen0thing no doubt..
Eloy Casagrande would blow anyone away in an audition. The guy's unreal.
Not El Estepario
He’d blow Estepario away too.
It won't be eloy. It's going to be Shawn's kid Simon.
@@akeyasa2228I really think it'd be voter's choice. We're talking about THE two masters of the honed edge of a double edged sword! Possibly Excalibur! We're not talking about blowing. Not a car length.Not even a fender. More like a photo finish at the stripe.
Even Corey had said in a recent interview with his turning 50 and his body starting to break down he doesn't see himself touring with Slipknot after the next 5 years. No matter what future holds i will continue to listen to their music and i wish Jay all the best in whatever future endeavors he has
He is no Bruce Dickinson or Rob Halford, that is for sure.
@user-bh8vw2fj9i it depends on what you have been doing. I am 50 and have been using a walker for 3 years. I can no longer get up from sitting without assistance! My body has been breaking down for almost a decade and I am 50 going onto 51! Try being in your 40s and 50s
@@user-bh8vw2fj9iDrumming at a professional level is most certainly not easy dude… 😅
Yeah I was actually about to say the same thing.. Corey also mentioned that he would help look for a replacement singer, too.
@@eldiablo3794 absolutely
Jay probably asked for a raise.
or if the situation was anything like Sergio Vega's, asked to be paid... at all
Great thumbnail. Nice content. Thanks for your work
Great video. It’s nice to see somebody taking a respective standpoint on this and not going along with all the drama. Great choices for your guesses too for who might be the new drummer. However there is one more very good possibility that came to my mind while you were talking about the others. Check out Fernando Lemus. He has done quite a few Slipknot cover videos and he is damn good!!! He definitely has the speed and the energy, could be another potential replacement. Keep up the good work, love and respect brother!!! 💯🤘👊
Im just happy to have gotten to see Slipknot live while they had all of the original band. It was with Rammstein & System Of A Down so it was an amazing concert. Perhaps the best one ive ever been to. Sad to see whats been going on with the Knot
Was this the Pledge of Allegiance tour, by any chance? If so, I saw this same tour in Phoenix, amazing show.
@@TheKornfeld it most certainly was. I went the the show at the (formerly) Pepsi arena in Albany NY. Was my first concert, I was 17 & boy did it set the standard wicked high for all future shows. Not many after that trio if any, could top that not to mention the opening bands. Plus SOAD doesn't tour anymore, I mean they play some festies but that's it & Rammstein never comes to the damn US, again, aside from a few huge festivals & now Slipknot is only a few threads of the original rope that made them the 'knot they once were. Anyway yea man, best show ever. Rock on!
I don’t think it’s gonna be Simon. He’s gone on to say he wants to be seen as a part of Vended and that he wants Vended to be seen as their own band, not a Slipknot child band
EXACTLYYYYY
I dig Vended. Has that old school Slipknot sound mixed with the Knocked Loose sound. I hope they take off! Let them take over
it's just sad. I miss Joey
Tank, as a fan of the band for many years and was skeptical about Jay to begin with but he really stepped in to a set of huge shoes to fill and was totally knocked it out of the park. I wish them all the best and Jay will be just fine. I hate to see him go.
ABSOLUTELY LOVE THAT THUMBNAIL
Nothing against Simon, I'm sure he's a great drummer, but it would look terrible to kick out a beloved drummer just to replace him with Clown's son. I'd love to see Slipknot go on for another 20 years with their kids taking over the band, but that needs to happen naturally, not like this.
Yeah we don’t want that nepo stuff lol plus I don’t think he’s talented enough at this point at least.
@@JohnnyGingyHe's not talented at all..
Well how about kicking out the beloved founding drummer for some rich famous (Hollywood) guy's son?
@@JohnnyGingywhat is up with the gaslighting? It's their private band. They can do what they want. Passing it on through the family would be the most logical thing. Why would you work for 30 years and have nothing for your family? "Oh sorry I gave away my business to this super metal drummer guy cuz he rocks is better on the drums than my son!" Lol it's not some democratic election. It's basements of des moines shit, f giving that away cuz some sociopath who thinks they own other people's bands is gaslighting that it's nepotism lolol. You're like the subject that corey is yelling at in all slipknot lyrics lol.
I have a theory: they are not going to release any really new albums (maybe except this secret album from 2008 but it's done already ) so they don't need a drummer who they have to pay more royalties for new songs. They just need a touring drummer and that's it. They are going to tour maybe 5-8 years and save a lot of money.
As a musician myself and with all things considered that actually is a very solid theory.
Joey hologram! Lol
17:45
Didn’t El Estepario come right out in that same video you clipped and said, he has not been contacted and basically like, no, I’m not the next drummer for Slipknot?
Also, he did talk about his new band saying it was a three piece jazz deal.
Which I am SUPER pumped to hear.
👍🏽
I think you're right with the first drummer you suggested. He's an amazing content creator
That thumbnail is gold.
I could care less about Slipknot but I love the thumbnail as a huge Sunny fan lol. Work of art 👌
I tried my best with this one. Hahaha
@@TankTheTech Tank's got boxes full of Pepe lol
Great video Tank later man..🎸🤘😈
First choice as you hit the nail on the head... the marketing and PR would be through the roof! Not that Slipknot needs it, however it would take them to another level that no other drummer is going to be able to bring to the table. It is just that simple. Going to sit back and just wait for the news to come through at this point lol 🔥👊🧡👍🔥
And just within the past hour, Slipknot announced their appearance at the fest Welcome to Rockville, with comments off, I assume they have a drummer lined up already
While I would love to see Siberiano be the next drummer, I think it is Eloy, or Clowns son. I would lean more to Clown's son as it would be a plug and play, and less differences as far as getting to know a brand new guy and wondering if it would fit and work. Thanks Tank for the video.
Jay won me over immediately. He's a killer drummer and any band would be lucky to have him. I don't think Jay is the issue here, 9 years is a long ass time and more than long enough iron out issues or get rid of him. Given how much turmoil the band is going through, there's only certain places to lay blame on. Corey has hinted at not touring within the next 5 years, I think this band is dying (I mean it's been a long time) and the older members might not be dealing with that in the best way. Ego and the fear of irrelevance are a bad mix too.
I was disappointed immediately by Jay
@@behindthen0thingOn the entrance or departure ? I'm assuming the former....
Eloy is awesome, but have never seen anything close to el estabario, dude is unbelievable, and can play any body drumming one handed, if he's allowed to do his own thing, it would be mind blowing
I did not enjoy The Gray Chapter or the latest record. WANYK was pretty solid, but overall the band has suffered immensely since All Hope is Gone. There are very few original members left, and people seem to be leaving or getting fired left and right. They are so cryptic about everything, and it's all starting to wear off.
While I enjoyed seeing them on tour in 2019, it's very hard to take anything revolving this band seriously or really care about them anymore. Unfortunately they are becoming the equivalent of the show LOST, which is really sad.
Corey clown and Jim are the only originals left
100%
@@drummerkrispMick?
Sid?
@@drummerkrispjim is not original member wasnt even on debut album
Saw Jay play with Bruce in 2009, he took the opportunity to turn Lost In The Flood to full on metal
Love your thumbnail 😂
Hahaha 😂 that thumbnail is hilarious Tank.
Corey has talked about how he is in constant pain and has some bad arthritis from putting his body through so much shit.
We will see what the future brings, but it doesn't sound like the band would disagree about their hayday being in the past.
-El Estepario is a Insane Monster of a drummer. Just absolutely insane to watch, and I watch pretty much All of his videos. And I'm a guitarist!
-I don't know Eloy... But drumming for Sepultura, he'd be a Great fit.
-Simon has been mentioned a lot... And people have said online they would be PISSED if they went that route... And people online think Vended are trash. (Which, I haven't heard enough of them). Going on your point about the hate he may get. Vended already get hate because they're Cory and Jon's kids...
-Mangini is a great drummer, but would that cause Slipknot to become Progressive Metal??? lol
-Krimh is ALSO a monster, would be a GREAT choice!
First time i saw El Esepario online i saw a young Joey but on Steroids... And I saw Slipknot live 4 times in 99 1 Ozzy, 2 w Coal Chameber, and 1 w Anthrax.
@@DrScott666 I've seen Slipknot 4 times as well! I have a stick from Clown when they were doing "The Blister Exists" on Subliminal Verses tour. Wait and Bleed came out when I was 13 and young me was blown away by Everything! Guitar, Bass, Drums, Vocals, Image.
Joey was something else, just a very incredible drummer.
El Estepario is Mind Blowing to me as an adult who has consumed so much music from across the genres, including extremes of metal, over the years. While there is no replacement for Joey, El Estepario would be a fantastic person to have behind the kit.
@@82tonypr Oh I seen Slipknot allot more than 4 times... I saw them 4 times in 1999 alone. I've seen them in nightclubs as opening acts I've seen them in a corn field outside of Des Moines. Best was probably Loco Bazooka Worcester Mass 99 there is high quality video of that online or Giants Stadium 2001 w Metallica and Slayer
@@DrScott666 That's awesome! There's just something about Slipknot live shows. Especially back in the early days,
Vended is trash because it is, not because they're Slupknot's kids. They just sound bad..
Huge points alone for the thumbnail on this video 😂
I was a foreign exchange student in 1999 and had the privilege to be at Wichita (KS) the 20th of October. There was a band opening for Coal Chamber. It was Slipknot. They stole the show, everybody left after that. I had the chance to be backstage and chill with Joey Jordison at a time nobody would know their face. I have been a fan since then. RIP Joey you were the best drummer ever.
I've been a slipknot fan for a long time I've learned so much about the band and everything else. They are a legacy band at this point for years now. I truly think Vended can be that next step for "slipknot fandom" I guess that's the best way I would put it. From 2 members being gone already this year everyone being busy as hell nowadays it's hard and I'll forever love this band just hope everyone has good terms with everyone that's all I'm saying. We have 4 more years of slipknot seen them 3 times and I'm happy is they retire out with a bang
I agree, I saw Vended live back in May in Chicago. Very much enjoyed their performance and am watching to see what they do next.
Corey only cares about his solo stuff and Clown sees it as his business. There are very few members left who aren’t just hired touring/session players
I got to hang out with El Estepario at Resurrection fest in Spain earlier this year, and I believe he met with a few members of Slipknot at the festival...
Yes tank that would be a sick show with them.
That thumbnail is amazing 😂
"I went to a Bruce Springstein concern with my Dad." That is the most wholesome and wonderful sentence I've heard all day.
He had such a frenetic drumming energy. I wish him well. Not only was he a young guy but he had fresh legs. As far as Craig jones goes… he’s 1 of the og members and he’s 50+ yrs old. So it kinda sorta made sense that he chose to leave.
No bc when you said you thought slipknot was about to end I honestly fully agree, I’ve been thinking that since the new album came out.
I haven't watched the video yet but when I saw the announcement of Jay leaving, I was blown away. It doesn't make sense. I saw Slipknot last year and he was amazing.
As someone who’s seen Slipknot even recently, I feel El Estepario is also a good fit not only because his skill levels there, but maybe “Creative Decision” means they’re trying to really up there shows production even more. Meaning with El Estepario, they may want him to add his one handed drumming techniques to the show for extra showmanship. Things like that
This is my bet
"Creative decision"= any decision made by Clown b/c he's such an artist maaaan
He’s came out and said he hasn’t been approached and that he wouldn’t be interested. I think Slipknot know there’s a big difference between a touring drummer and a CZcams drummer
El estepario is the greatest ever novelty drummer but I don't see him in a live, touring band setting... playing in a band is its own animal
He's not going to join slopknot 🤣
Its totally going to be Simon, but Mangini would be HILARIOUS.
Ich hab *Mangina* gelesen 🥲
10 years already? Time flies!
Spot on, 9 years, enough said
Slipknot is nothing more than a brand name ever since Joey left the band
Eloy is the best! Most technical and genius metal drummer currently!
You're right your first guess is on it he's a badass
My wife and I are not slipknot fans - it's too heavy for our tastes. But we did get VIP tickets this last summer when they came to Salt Lake city. And Damn, they put on a good show! I'm a drummer, and Jay just had my jaw on the floor. My wife really liked the show too.
I don't think Jay is a "shit bag" or have all these character flaws. Everything I have ever seen from him is he's a very very nice guy, but he's definitely the very neurotic artsy guy who sort of lives in his own world. I think his prior bandmates were unhappy that his talent superseded theirs and he was off to greener pastures.
He’s a jew so makes sense
@@ryanr5139 cool story?
@@ryanr5139that just makes him superior to the rest of the band tbh
@@ryanr5139 tf what
Jews are neurotic and scheming
I just heard Jay in an interview the other day on SXM. He was bragging how much he loved Slipknot and how it's a great fit for him. I wanna say it was a Cati Babs interview. And then just a few weeks later he gets kicked to the curb. Really disappointing.
nossa eu gostava e vou continuar gostando do Jay Weinberg , pois ele mostrou ao mundo que é um dos melhores e maiores bateristas do mundo , espero que o Slipknot escolha um baterista do mesmo nível dele ! 🤡👹👺👿💋🤘👊🎼🎵🥁🥁🥁
Just a little alarming how the slipknot business appears to be run. Coz although we don't have all the facts, there was that additional album half the band recorded that some members didn't want released during the all hope is gone era,Joey claiming to be have been fired via email, Chris Fehn alleging an unsignable contract and slipknot businesses he was unaware of and now Craig and Jay. Offcourse there's two sides to a story but hopefully whoever gets the gig covers themselves with a good contract coz this job is appearing to become more and more of a "don't know which friday is your last"kinda deal. Anyway, cool vid. Much love from South Africa \m/
I think Jay either wasn’t getting along with some of the members and was fired, wanted to be paid more and asked for more money, or wanted to be made an official member and wanted all the perks that comes with that (a percentage of royalties, merchandising, etc).
Got to watch Eloy Casagrande play with Sepultura from side stage in 2018, their tech sheet said "please don't approach the drumkit while he's playing because the snare hits up to 140dB", every time he had a few spare seconds during and in between songs he would tighten up his snare head because of how hard he hit it, fucking gorilla behind the kit...
Jay’s statement: I sometimes wonder what it would be like to pay a visit to my wide-eyed, 10-year-old self - falling head over heels in love with a new and exciting sound and culture - and tell him all about the last 10 years.
Even on the hardest days, I'd like to think he'd be stoked about the adventure that was in store for him.
I was heartbroken and blindsided to receive the phone call that I did on the morning of November 5th; the news of which, most of you learned shortly after.
However, I've been overwhelmed by - and truly grateful for - the outpouring of love and support I've received from this incredible community I consider to be my creative and artistic home.
This is not the ending to the journey l'd dreamt of, and committed myself to seeing through - not by a long shot. But, despite the confusion and sadness, there is something that's provided an equal amount of comfort.
For many of you reading this: 10 years ago, we weren't yet acquainted. And now, we are. For that, I'm thankful in ways I'll never be able to fully express.
I love playing the drums. I'll always love playing the drums. I'll always have a passion for music, art, and creative expression. Nothing will ever change that.
I don't know how, and I don't know when, but I look forward to creating loud, passionate, and heartfelt music that we enjoy together again. Until then, please know it's been the joy of a lifetime to spend the last 10 years with you, sharing in our love for this special corner of the music and art world.
This isn't the end, and I'm thrilled to discover what the future has in store for us.
Thank you.
Tank your getting real good at this format of video. I say that because I 0% interest in slipknot or the people in that band but I enjoyed watching this video. I don’t know if twitch makes you money but I am kinda tired of hearing you and other videos talking about and also having problems with it. I guess I am old school. I also don’t watch anything live. Anyway have a great day
El Estepario had already announced his new band and he was pretty excited about this new project. and he was tired of touring with his old band. I don't think it will be him
I wouldn’t be surprised if both Griffin and Simon end up in Slipknot. I just saw Vended open for Bullet like 10 days ago and Griffin sounds scarily similar to Corey during the Iowa era. Not to mention Griffin’s stage presence, crowd control, and the things he says to get the crowd going are literally the same things Corey says on stage. It’s clear that not only does he look up to his dad, but he’s studied him as a performer. If you go and watch that 09 Download performance, Griffin literally copy/pastes everything Corey does throughout the set (which is not a bad thing, at the end of the day it’s literally Corey’s son we’re talking about).
On the other hand, Simon is a great drummer and the kid’s got the energy. It’s my second time seeing them (I saw them in The Fall of Ideals 10yr Annie tour) and they’ve gotten insanely better since. My only thing is: Vended’s music style is very different from Slipknot’s style so if he transitions into that role, he’ll have to adapt to how fast Slipknot’s drumming can get.
I just don’t see them going for someone who has to figure it out when they had a guy who knew it all and then some
I was thinking the same thing when I saw them in Flagstaff. It's like they're a farm team for slipknot waiting to be called up to the majors.
Estepario was seriously my first thought as well, but Eloy would be a great fit too
You said it all: Slipknot nowadays is more of a "legacy" band. And I dare to say I think they should do as Slayer did: do one last fucking epic tour and retire with honor. Their legacy will last; however, they don't have the same vibe and stamina to BE a band as they were before.
i love slipknot so much but i think they should’ve split when they kicked joey out. or even when paul died. or at MOST when they kicked chris out
Also Evgeny Novikov from Slaughter To Prevail is a huge Knot fan and has done some amazing drum covers.
I was torn when the band kicked Joey out. I have not liked or cared for the band the same after that. As for Jay I only feel bad for him if he got kicked out the same way as Joey , but in my opinion he didn’t feel like the right drummer for Slipknot. A good drummer for sure but not for Slipknot. My vote for the next drummer would be Kerim Krimh Lechner. He is still in Septicflesh, but he would be an awesome choice. The fact that he wasn’t picked the first time could’ve just meant that they had already made the choice before Joey’s departure was even announced. Slipknot is more of a corporation now, so they will know who to get before they make an announcement.
My guess was Eugene Ryabchenko (Septic Flesh), but after thinking about it I don't think it will be him. I have got the impression that Eugene doesn't want to be in a band full time, he prefers to be a traveling drummer, jumping in occationally when a regular drummer can not play at a concert.
Cheers / Mr_B_Dublin
Edit - My apologies everyone, I remembered it wrong as it is pointed out in the comments below. Eugene is in Fleshgod Apocalypse of course. My memory is playing tricks with me.
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Eugene isnt he in Fleshgod Apocalypse?
I might be wrong but isn't Krimh with Septicflesh and Eugene with Fleshgod?
@@mechanicart4225 @malachiswe - Ah sorry lads, you are both right of course, I remembered it wrong. My apologies.
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I have tryed looking for it not sure if u have made a video on how to be a roadie I'm interested in hearing it
Jorge is a kickass drummer and Eloy is a beast man! Jorge is definitely qualified has plenty of groove ,chops, as well as speed.
Poach Aquila’s Priester from WASP. Dudes incredible and his talent isn’t used well in WASP
Yap Slipknot days where counted when Joey was kicked out. Even with jay who was amazing but yeah. And they did this to their self.
You’re right when you say slipknot peaked years ago. Nothing will ever top their self titled album. Iowa was fantastic as well. Self titled and Iowa are their two best albums. They had their original members and everything just worked. After all hope is gone when Paul died and they kicked Joey out is when they really started to go downhill. I’m happy they’re still touring, I just wish I could have seen them live in their prime
I wouldn’t miss them with Eloy rn esp if they’re doing a self titled theme tour rn. Kinda disagree to ahig isn’t better than we are not your kind to me overall
Another dude I think could pull it off is Betto Cardoso. He put together a Slipknot 'Slipknot Drum Audition' video some years ago, he's a beast!
Great insight into the current drama!
Estepario just suggested he might be their new drummer. He’s definitely an insane drummer, but Casagrande is a killer drummer as well! But there’s Simon!
At the end of the day, Jay was killer, and I wonder why the hell Cory and Clown have so much influence to treat everyone else in the band as expendable.
But Mike Mangini could be perfect! He’s used to being a hired hand! 😉
Imagine Simon becoming the new drummer for Slipknot, and Jay becoming the new drummer Vended😂
Just seen vended live they kicked ass 💯🤘🏼
EES just put out a video this morning saying he is putting his own band together and will put out a video soon.
El Esteperio (sorry if I got the spelling wrong) is absolutely awesome
They should just get an AI generated entity at this point.
Imagine being so talented as a drummer that El Seperano gives you a recommendation?! Your pretty much the final boss 😂
I think el estapario too. And man what a badass he is. Unreal.
“Habits and lifestyle” typically means in the music business - addictions. May not be the case here - but a massive band like Slipknot in the music business and touring is a VERY high stress job. Fun but very stressful behind the scenes. Just my opinion only.
Slipknot is going to become an entity of interchangeable parts. Corey has said in the past the band is bigger than the members. Eventually Corey’s son will be brought in to sing and Clowns son will be the new drummer from Vended
It should be remembered that Slipknot is controlled by Corey and Clown, everyone are just employees to be fired on a whim
Yup.
“Going to”? They’re there.
When it first came out I was way more upset, but now I have come to assume they are making the decision they want to make and I will respect their decision. With that being said, somehow I feel like a parent in this situation. I am not upset or mad, I'm just so disappointed, replacing Joey was an impossible task and Jay filled those shoes and then some, I just dont get it.
Your first guess on the drummer is exactly who I've been thinking!!!
As of right now, I think my personal picks that could theoretically happen are Krimh, Jon Rice, and Eloy.
Possibly Alex Rudinger, maybe 66Samus.
Wishful thinking: Gene Hoglan or Chris Adler lol
Personally having met him, and having multiple friends that met him he seems to be a very nice person. That being said he could be an absolute nightmare to work with.
He, yeah. Working with someone and being with someone is a different camp altogether. Which isn't a bad thing, but when things need to be done it can be hell on wheels going against them if they want to do it differently.
Max Portnoy would be a sick fit but I'd hate to see the end of Tallah because of it.
Why would tallah have to end? Hasn't he been touring with Code Orange primarily anyway?
@@castlecarousel I just love Tallah to bits and would hate to see anything dampen that project. You're right that it wouldn't necessarily have to end and yes he's been touring with Code Orange anyways but yeah.. just worrying out loud I guess.