Ford 4.6L 5.4L 6.8L 2v Triton Engines: Blown Out Spark Plug Repair **UPDATE**
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- čas přidán 24. 09. 2018
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FordTechMakuloco hey buddy do you know any good repair kit for a 2000 Ford F-150 5.4 liter timing kit.
FordTechMakuloco hey buddy do you know any good repair kit for a 2000 Ford F-150 5.4 liter timing kit.
Have you heard of the input shaft breaking in the transmissions? I have a 06 E-250 and thats exactly what happened to it. 245,000 miles though. Cant really complain if the tranny has never been touched. I got the van with 189,000 on it. This is the 1st major issue I have had with the van. Motor runs great. When I got it I replaced the plugs and coil packs with the Accel coil packs and she runs perfect. Put in Autolite Double Platinums.
I'll be shopping for a newer used truck to pull my camper around the U.S. and bring me into retirement. Can you please do some videos on some Good trucks that you would recomend from a Mechanics perspective.
What do you use to remove a broken spark plug in the 2 valve engine?
Usually those who end with problems are the ones that chuck the instructions in the trash. Just follow instructions, put the ego away and just do what the manufacturer says. This is a perfect example of a job well done.
Finally. I see a good spark plug repair for those that blew them out of the cylinder. Thanks for the video Brian.
Not long after the first video came out I had a blowout in my V-10. I bought all of the tools and accessories you linked to in the description and fixed it myself, this was 4-5 months ago and it's still running strong! Thank you for your videos and excellent advice and how-tos, I had my laptop with me and referenced back to your CZcams video a couple of times. The blowout I had prior was from a poor repair which cost me my old Mustang (caught fire when the plug blew again), I actually loaned the CalVan kit out to that shop for an E-250 they did a couple of weeks ago and pointed him towards your video for how to do it right.
I spent a tidy sum for a time sert kit for my flathead v8 that had some very weak block threads for the head bolts. The kit was very well made, and the drills, tap, and insert tool are top end quality. I was really worried about drilling into that engine, but it drilled and tapped like butter! Those inserts lock in when done properly, zero issues with the head bolts now.
I always watch your videos before a repair. Very professional.
I use J-B Weld 37901 ExtremeHeat High Temperature paste, and my inserts aren’t ever coming out. I have fixed so many cracked cylinder heads and engine blocks with JB Weld working in the radiator shop that I won’t even consider using anything else. Bocks, heads, radiators, heater cores, condensers, oil coolers you name it.
I have also seen many failures with people who have used high heat red thread locker. The JB Weld is a high metallic paste and you won’t be having your insert back out because the JB Weld turns rock solid. I understand that people prefer to use what worked for them in the past, and that’s why I prefer the JB Weld, because it works.
Now is the time to do them all. I dropped a valve in my Kenworth because the valve keeper fell out. The Cat shop asked me if I wanted the new improved valve keepers on the new rebuilt engine. Well, duhh. Of course, improve it when the opportunity comes up. Oh, the final bill on that rebuild was $22,000.
Thank you guy for update your information,specially in the locktite,great video
Useful info since I recently bought a 2v 5.4, gotta change plugs on it pretty soon.
Very informative. Thanks for taking time to update. I remember the other video. I have a grand marquis. I am glad I have options if a spark plug problem occurs.
I have an 04 GM and it is a mess in the spark plug area.
Hi..
Good to see a follow up on a repair. Thanks
Great information!! Thank you!!
i work for a big courier fleet and we have really big fleet of E450 with 5.4 2v..... and we do not see that issue very much.....the only one that had that issue..... is the one that we sent to ford dealer for warranty for oil leaking head gasket on the right side.... and they came back to the our garage with blow out spark plug on one cylinder about one month after back from ford dealer and we have notice on engine..... the other spark plug ...... were louse .....so the ford dealer replace with a brand new head ....on warranty and this happing on the truck that they did .....so i have to say ....the ford head gasket are not very good.... .because they always leak not long after .....so we had to redo there job that did .....the right side head .... .and we have ford with 5.4 since 1999 and are truck work 10 hour a day......so for my 40 year of experience the cause is loose spark plug that i have seen... we buy only ford part no other brand .....but not the head gasket .
😀👍🏼 Great Install and Follow Up On Install
Great update
So if you have the heads out, would you recommend putting the inserts in even if the spark plugs have not blown as yet?
Good to know how that works out
I’ve never had a plug blow out in a 2v 5.4. I’ve always torqued the plugs to 28ft lbs. I believe the very low factory torque spec is the main culprit here. Yeah the very few threads don’t help the situation but the low torque is an issue.
Nice video
If the aluminum head gets to over 500• F you have bigger issues lol
Thank you Ford Tech my crown Vic also thanks you.
Good video
Is there any quick way to diagnose if my 2001 4.6 Romeo's oil pressure lose is due to either the oil pump or the main bearings?
That is proof right there. There are to many Monday morning quarterbacks on the internet.
Ah blah blah blah! There is fire in there so any "glue" will just burn away! (forgets the head is oil / liquid cooled).
Can't imagine what else someone would recommend? A new head? These are all well used vehicles, not show cars or race cars... fix em and keep em going. If done right these will last the life of the engine.
@dallastxracing The dealer did that to my and it have blown back out three times. So I paid the 25 bucks for this sealant and I think its worth the try. Since the dealer don't want to stand behind their work.
I have a 2001 mustang 4.6 what should the spark plugs be torqued to?
So if there is already a heil-coil repair completed on the head can you use the inserts shown here?
I had to change the coolant to my Ford fusion 2008, I put it to drain the coolant and after I finished draining the 50/50 concentrated refrigerant the full gallon did not have to add more water I think there was old refrigerant in the system. I did it right or do I have to change everything again?
I believe I will be installing the inserts before I start losing spark plugs or...at least will do all of one bank IF I lose a plug. I really like my 5.4L and guess every engine has a weak spot...but why Ford did this I am unsure. Thanks for the update!
Just did this fix is it important to get out all the aluminum shavings or is it ok to have a few stubborn stragglers inside that seem to not want to come out even with air directly on top I do exactly what you say I even bought the borescope
I know your thoughts on the 5.4 but what are your thoughts on oil weight in the 4v 5.0?
You mentioned in the video that the 4.6 was prone to head gasket failure. Does that also apply to the 5.4 2V?
Can i use this type of insert on a 2011 e150 with a 4.6. Calvan says it stops at 03 but say it has been done to later years but they dont have any testing to say to use it.
Are there typical plugs that fail
On my 5.4 # 3 & 8 have been redone.
This Question has Nothing to do with your previous video but have watched other videos of yours and your awsome !
I have a 2007 Lincoln Navigator with AC issues. My AC has a mind of its own, Sometimes the fans on high and cannot lower fan speed. Sometimes I cant turn it off or on . The display shows the fan on high and its blowing low sometimes the display says the fan is blowing low and its Blows high, can you help ?
Good morning sir, I’m just have question I’m having problem to my 2012 Ford Fiesta 1.6 AT when I was park some warning lights indicate like battery, hill assist and traction control. Can you help me what really problem on my car? Is this symptom of bad alternator? O another issue like battery temp sensor or engine coolant temp sensor? Thanks you
What scanner do you use? In the market for a oem for Ford and one for chevy (tech2). Not sure what is fords oem scanner.
Nice!!
Does the 2008 4.6l have many problems?
Ford should have recalled the 4.6 for ejecting plugs. Putting four threads to hold a plug under compression and the expansion and contraction they endure was nuts.
I've got an E350 with the 5.4 2v engine and am putting off doing the head gaskets. Every once and a while, you get a slight vapor trail on start up and a small coolant loss in two to three months. The old fashion pellet Bars Leak has kept things intact.
I want to remove the heads, resurface and install the inserts, but with the additional costs of water pump, timing chains, oil pump and gaskets, in parts, I'm close to $1,000, not counting my labor. Looking like a springtime 2019 project.
Any thoughts on installing a rebuilt 5.4 3valve engine?
If your van is supposed to have a 2 valve, I wouldn't swap a 3 valve in it. Your PCM isn't set up to control the cam phasers on the 3 valve, and I strongly suspect that neither it or the factory harness can be updated to support that. I'm not 100% on the other wires and inputs, though.
I am in the process of changing coils and plugs but the plugs seem to be stuck in head. I am afraid if I twist too hard they might break or strip out threads. What do you recommend to loosen the spark plugs? 2005 F-150 4.6. Thanks James
The design if the plug is what caused most plugs to break from 04-07 i believe. And lack of maintenance. I think those have the revised plugs now, if im not mistaken
wow! Wasn't aware the 4.6 had issues with head gasket failure. Is that common across all the 4.6? Specific to the F150 or? I own a few "panther" platform 4.6 vehicles, so was curious.
TimeSert is definitely the best kit available out there to fix the stripped thread issue.
I have 04 f150 4.6 V8 ,hope mine is one of the good ones! 219k on it,runs like new still !😎😎😎😎😎
I never heard of it either. I’ve ran a 2010 E250 with a 4.6 and replaced plugs at 120k, and now at 191k with no leaking or ever a engine/transmission problem. Really not sure why he referenced that as cops wouldn’t have favored it.
I’ve got a 2004 Ford F-150 4.6 L engine. It’s got around 210,000 miles on it. Just replaced torque converter and essentially rebuilt the transmission Bc it was slipping slightly when we bought it. Even after replacing the transmission I will be at a red light and give it gas and it won’t go for abt 3-5 seconds and then it’s like it finally registers and goes, after that it’s fine it’s only on takeoff. I’ve had it at a local mechanic for two months now they said they’ve tried everything, said it’s running on 75% power and it’s also not throwing codes. Can anyone give me there opinion on this problem and what solutions there are??
My 2001 5.4 just blew the #6 plug... is it ok to disconnect the injector wire and drive it 90 miles to get it back home? Trying to avoid a huge towing bill
Did you paid the towing bill, or disconnect the injector wire?
It would be great to see how many threads the insert is grabbing after it’s tapped.
Why did Ford Engineers design a cylinder head with so few threads? Coming from the aviation world as a mechanic 4 or 5 threads is not going to do the job. In fact, we had to have a certain number of threads exposed after torquing. Knowing they have a problem has the situation been corrected or is it business as usual? Just wondering if their quality has improved.
unbelievable
Knowing automakers, if anything, things have got WORSE ...
On some new model cars, I seen where the cam chain controls the water pump and has two oring seals, once seal fails through one, then the 2nd and coolant goes inside engine oil :(
The heads were revised somewhere in the the area of 2005, someone will correct that I'm sure. Ford then decided a new fangled spark plug was in order, goes in one piece...comes out in 2 now and again. But it had plenty of threads. I have had a few break but they have decent tools to do the dirty work of getting the bits out. I have had an 04 push one out while i was standing there listening to a belt drive noise. Poor little coil just beating away like a heart. It didn't get a time-sert, heli coil installed by another tech. Never had a problem other than cleaning out all the junk he let fall in.
Come on Arthur. You know as well as I do why manufacturers generally don't cut corners in aviation. It matters when you are in the air but if you are on the ground it's whatever just pull off on the side of the road. That and FAR 23 being a codified law makes it ill advised to push out a bad product in the first place. PMA/TSO's tend to cost a company a deal of money due to all the testing and certification required to get an STC.
Don't they sell a kit . Insert n a tap or threader with the insert having some kind of index on how far to thread
I had a spark plug blow out and when I install the new plug with the helicoil, my socket bottoms out and I cant tighten the plug all the way. Any idea how to fix this? I have no compression in that cylinder.
@moreno valley news first I ended up replacing my whole passenger side cylinder head. Runs amazing now.
Do you think its a good idea to add loctite on the spark plug threads to avoid them being blown out? Or that wont help at all?
I know this is 3 years old but NEVER add loctite to spark plugs. They are designed to be removed.
The loctite is only necessary for the insert install. Not the actual plug install
I’ve never heard of the 4.6 being prone to head gasket failure.
Sent you message on Facebook have a 09 5.4 all new timing components with hp pump and still have diesel know after hour of running and will stall out thoughts??
If you didn't use the high volume pump then you want to swap that in and run 5w-30 if you aren't already. If still not ok then run a 40 weight oil. If still not ok then the engine is worn beyond repair and was not maintained which should of been obvious during the timing job.
FordTechMakuloco there was very slight sludge screens in vct housing were clean and yes hp pump will try oil see what happens thanks
I know this doesnt deql with this video but please help me Master of Fords! I have 2001 ford supercrew 4x4 5.4 2v with 144,000 miles on it. While driving on the highway yesterday. It stopped firing on the entire left bank. No noises or problems before. Instant sputter and limp it home on just the right bank.mechanic scanned it and said well have to guess dont know what happened. After much online research i found lots of others had the same but no one had an answer. You are the best Ford mechanic there is . Have you seen this before? Thank you for your time and any advise.
So after repaired the spark plug threads and installed the head , you didn't torque the head bolts ..
You do know after the old head bolts are removed your not supposed to reuse them ....
Holy crap, what's this noise about 4.6L "Being prone to head gasket failure?" News to me! Should I be retorquing bolts at particular intervals?
Mainly oil leaks from head gasket failure.
Probably good time to put other inserts while the cylinder is out
not for this video, but could you put all the tour videos in one folder please? Thanks
how to get heli coil out of spark plug hole
Hell, why not stick inserts in all the holes then?
Hopefully the 5.4 don't have this problem I've got an 06 F150 and had the plugs done by the dealership and the factory plugs come out with no problems.
The 06 5.4 3v won't have this issue, the heads have plenty of threads for the plug, it just had the crappy 2 piece fusion welded plugs that twist off when removed. If all yours came out, and you put anti seize on the extended part and threads, you'll be just fine when their torqued properly.
I had a 2007 f150 with 4.6 n never at a problem with anything n it had over 500000km on it
2011 E350 5.4, any good?
yes
@@FordTechMakuloco So, this is 2 Valve 5.4 not to be mistaken with a 3V truck motor, cam phasers or any of those issues are not present in this one? The sellers are replacing the trans was stuck in 1st gear, how are the trans? And many thanks for your input! I value your thoughts on this, the success of our new restaurant business depends on this 8 yr old truck to get us through the first 3 crucial years and hopefully up to 5!
Those time sert crazy expensive
Heck it would almost be worth doing the inserts just to save your self from breaking down somewhere
Didn't ford fix the problem by a head redesign in 2008(ish)? I really want to know this, please take a sec as I'm building a 2v rn.
this issues was fixed in 2001 or so, the 2008 head redesign was the 3v engines.
Never have that problem with a slant.six.motor.
I thought this problem was only with the Triton engines. And the Triton engines have 3 valves right?
all are triton engines
There are 2v Triton also.
Commented! Lol
Should you just go ahead and put inserts in the rest of the cylinders before you send it to the machine shop.
Brian... didn't see any anti seiz on that plug...."WHAT"...lol
Sure was I just use a light amount on plugs nowadays.
@@FordTechMakuloco ok .. just keep checking on you so you can keep us up to date... see we pay attention....lol
Your not supposed to use any. Ngk says so. As long as you know that the anti sease changes the torque value
Yeah I had a talking to with the NGK reps about that.
Brian - The Force was with you on that day. I heard from the ScareCrow the guy you talked to got a "New Job" ... at Time-Sert ;)
Bottom line it is a bad design and ford should be responsible for any repairs. Just another reason to buy a Honda or a Toyota. There is no excuse for only having four threats to hold it in.
What kind of insert Is that? Or what is the part number to it?
Calvan 38900
Should be fine with a insert as long as you dont over torque the spark plug then you may have problems with the insert
Are you guessing here? In my experience an insert in aluminum can take far more torque than the original threads.
I'm just talkin about people overpowering their spark plugs and pulling out the insert when they go to do a spark plug change do you only need to take your spark plugs insert them till snug and then do a quarter-turn not get a full 360 degree turn after they're already snug I have seen guys do it before
Ford is sketchy in their designs. GREED no doubt, very scummy.
wow I was looking at an older ford van...Ford built tough...to my way of think it is a piece of crap. Pathetic POS.