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KTM 250SX-F VS 250XCW
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2021
- I ride a 2019 KTM 250SX-F back-to-back with a 2020 KTM 250XCW and give my feedback on the two machines! Again, you might be surprised by which bike I feel more comfortable on!
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250 XC-W gang!
Pretty awesome feeling when he says he likes your bike huh?
Is the W the enduro version in the US?
@@axirat2285 the xcw is the exc
Thanks for letting me rip it!
When you said you forgot all your gear I figured the night before must have been an “edibles and create night”. Then you hopped on that xcw and said “Oh this is a 2 stroke?”........Yup must have been an edibles night!
Hahahah that’s hilarious. Lots of creating going on lately! 😬
@@AjCatanzaro i love it!!!!
The "W" in XCW stand for "Wide Ratio", 1-2 gear are shorter for technical terrain and 4-5 or 5-6 are longer for road or open sections compared to "Close Ratio" that on motocross bikes , Wide range is a typical Enduro bike.
You got it backwards. The xcw is their slow single track bike and the xc is pretty much a mx bike with minor tweaks to make it off road friendly.
Ooo wow. Even crazier that I liked it that much!!
hey guys in australia the xcw is called the exc (enduro cross country) and its basicly a triple sport . can do all things but wont excel in one over the other. wouldnt use it for racing mx but for fun it can basicly do anything you want it to 😊 mostly desert high speed and enduro guys race them over here but I've actualy raced it on a mx track in a club man event with other 250f mx bikes and I came 4th out of 14 . c grade lakes motocross club in ryhope 😎🤙
Great mini series, 2 - 0 for the 2 strokes, sure hope someday they return to the top step of our sport. New riders on the 4 strokes don't know what they are missing. Supercross would make more sense on a 350 2 stroke, in my opinion, lol..
feel the same =)
You'd love that XCW in the woods and you would love an XC everywhere! 2020 250XC, such a good bike
I have a 250 XC. Best of both worlds!
AJ, the XC (cross country) would have a semi-close gearbox and be closer to MX gearing than the XC-W (cross country/Wide ratio). XC-W would be more suited to slow and technical single track. You might be a 2 smoker rider at heart ha ha!
Hmm maybe I am!
XC also has has a swingarm linkage, while the W does not.
Wouldn't think you'd like the woods bike on MX track, targeting different suspension speeds. 2 stroke excitement, 2nd to none. Sick track !
You need to ride the 300 XC TPI. That thing is a blast to ride.
Craziest bike I’ve ever raced hands down. Absolute tractor.
You HAVE TO do more on board commentary, it breaks down the thought process so much better with live feed! Great work as usual 🚀
Good choice! You might like the 300 two stroke even better. My favorite all round bike.
This video pretty much sums up everything you need to know about two very different dirt bikes. 4t vs. 2t, wide-ratio woods gearing vs. semi-wide, linkage rear suspension vs. PDS...A great rider adapts to anything!
Steel frame bikes makes a big difference with bike feel. 2stroke kicking a bit slow down the rebound to the H direction. Great content as usual, 👌 Australia Melbourne 🇦🇺🇺🇸
Xcw is a slower speed woods bike. No linkage and I think 2020 is the xplore suspension. The xc is basically an sx but a little more woods. So 18in rear. Kick stand. E start and kick etc. On the 4 stroke side they used to make the sxf. Xcf xcfw and excf. I think kym dropped the xcfw cause it was basically the street legal excf.
Cool thing on the ktm is how adjustable the power is. You want a hard hit toss a red power valve spring in :)
The XC-W is the "trail" bike from KTM but don't let that fool you as it a major choice for extreme off-road plus it has a PDS rear suspension. The XC version is closed course hare scramble type of bike very "moto" related with linkage rear suspension where you won't get that back end kick
That's my home track, just blown away how fast you are railing corners. Would love to take a class with you some day. I was out with injury in April.
Now I don't feel so bad for signing up for your class with my XCW. :)
As long as I can ride it for a couple laps 😬
@@AjCatanzaro Definitely.
Must be time for you to do a Enduro or GNCCC you looked at home on that XCW. I had similar experience on a 2018 250 XCW on a MX track, I swapped with mate he rode my CRF450 and I rode his XCW and I actually liked it a lot track was beat up after nationals and you had to land all the jumps perfectly but otherwise i was surprised how well a bike with a head light went on a MX track.
@KTM you owe AJ a referral code now my dudes. Now I want a XCW.
Hahaha!
Yup. At my age I mostly ride woods now but when I was younger I rode motocross. I've been wanting the xcw but I wasn't sure if it could do jumps... Now I definitely want the xcw. For me it seems the best all around for my style (mainly woods) and limited capabilities (still wanting to jump an occasional table top). I currently ride a yz250f.
@@Hi808trailriders I've got the 300XCW and my son has a YZ250F, we mostly ride desert, but we signed up to do AJ's course coming up in Sept. If you can find one, get the 300.
Foots on the peg🔥
The *US🇺🇲AMA* needs to allow the *250 2-Stroke* to race against the *250 4 -Stroke* at the very least in *Outdoor Motocross*
*Canada & Australia* was allowing, it would please *2-Stroke* fans it would benefit the racing since you race them different & it would open up different lines.
But most importantly *2-Strokes* are much cheaper especially to race & maintain. Which would benefit the smaller teams & specially privateers along with the general public
that track is nice
Loved this video, would really like to see you try the 250sxf vs the 250sx if the opportunity ever presents itself.
I have a 2021 300 XC (linkage, not PDS) - AMAZING bike. First pony I've dumped money into: Fmf 2.1 to shorty, fatty pipe, VF reeds, hi comp head, hinny clutch, air box mod, red PV spring, etc.
what's the airbox mod?
hey guys in Australia the xcw is called the exc (enduro cross country) and its basicly a triple sport . can do all things but wont excel in one over the other. wouldnt use it for racing mx above a c grade but for fun it can basicly do anything you want it to 😊 mostly desert high speed and enduro guys race them over here but I've actualy raced it on a mx track in a clubman event with other 250f mx bikes and I came 4th out of 14 . c grade lakes motocross club in ryhope 😎🤙 yeeew
The xc w has no linkage and longer gears for more hard enduro so you don't have to worry about hitting linkage on trees and it has longer gears so you can stay in first and second most of the time on trails
Trials bike?!???!! Trials bikes are the ones with no seat.
It would be awesome to see you do some woods racing. Would be really interesting to see how well you’d do.
Haha great video! ❤️
Also would be cool to see him on a trials bike.
2 Strokes rule!
Put a 13 tooth front sprocket on the sxf and you won't ever need 2nd, idk why ktm went to a 14
XCW has lower 1st and 2nd gear and the rest are progressively longer for woods/desert racing
XC has close ratio like the SX
Had a sorta similar thing happen at this same track, I showed up with me husky TE150i. My friend I came with has a yz125 and I let him ride my TE and he was surprised by how rideable it was. The fuel injected 150 motor was such a different feeling to him, he said it felt like a 4 stroke lmao.
One of these days you'll do a moto clinic near me and I'll give you a shot on a 300 two stroke that's set up for enduro.
You need to try a 350 on a supercross track
The xc is more track like based of the sx cross country bike xc is for tight stuff enduro hence the wide ration gear box and the pds
Only problem was it sounded like he was riding it like a *4-Stroke* in the turns he took every inside rut when a *2-Stroke* is lacking the torque compared to a *4-Stroke*
Excuse me? LOL a 250cc 2-stroke makes MASSIVE amounts of torque compare to a 250cc 4-stroke....just sayin!
Thats not a 2019, you can clearly see the body work, its a 2018 or older.
XC-W 300 is good on a wet MX track too. well at least until the 450's cut trenches everywhere
Love the vids
He rode a 2 strokeeee! Hell yeah!
The xc-w is made for enduro the xc is made for everything they have a 300 xc-w Which is made for enduro even more than a 250 and they have a 300 xc which is made for a little bit of everything just more power
Main difference Xcw has a different linkage built for endure nevermind the gears
I wanted to know the final lap times for both. Did I miss them?
At the end of the runs you can see them. 1.27 on the 250f and 1.28 on the 250xc
@@niklassvensson9119 I see that now. Thank you!!
Have you ever been to bowers MX in Amarillo TX
@cam so where was the sick edit of the 2 bikes 😂😂😎
The sxf is 2018..
16 yeah
So why are top motocross bikes losing though? Suspension too stiff? What would you change about the moto bikes to make them win? Just odd that bikes that should clearly win are not the ones your picking.
Good question. It all boils down to suspension. Motocross bikes are WAY too stiff. If you think you need a bike setup stiff for outdoors, you’re riding wrong
@@AjCatanzaro Good to know. Maybe I'll soften mine up!
You should try sand mountain mx
Good video
4:54 lol it's actually the opposite, the W in XCW stands for "woods / wide ratio". Love the videos tho!
Pretty sure it stands for wide ratio but yes it's a woods bike. 18" rear tire and kickstand as well.
@@rglce25 You're correct it 100% stands for wide. My 2nd and third gear are wider so they can have more low end to lug around. I didn't really have a chance to go into detail with AJ about it lol.
@@sheldonalbertson5174 I would love one but not a tpi.
@@rglce25 XCW300 tpi, TE300i, and EC300i are the best off road bikes made
@@perrinhex7737 for sure
I jsut bought a 2021 crf250f and haven’t taken it to a track yet but bought it to do both woods and track so maybe could we see u on one of those ?
Lemme know how it goes. I got a 2020 and have only done trails. I wanna take it to the track but haven't had a chance yet.
@@dougchilton6611 I’ve taken it on a few small jumps seems good but only thing I may worry about is the front fork stiffness but besides that so far seems like it will handle it
CRF250F? You mean CRF250R?
Should have gotten the RX if you’re woods focused.
@@Schnot no I mean 250f and I looked at the rx it’s also 4k more and I don’t fully race woods I just do here and there for fun but usually ride for fun
@@morganthornton847 Ah ok you mean that 250 trail bike. Yeah that’s a whole different animal than the R or RX.
Aj secretly becomes enduro rider.
Why does the ktm 250sx-f have a plastic kit from 2016-2018 if it is a ktm 2019??
because its from those years probably
Enduro bike
Xc is more of a race bike. Xcw has wide ratio gearing
Wasuuuup
Sup
PDS PDS PDS. Just saying 😁
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How dare you try to teach people how to ride faster and don’t even know what rebound damping is. You’re a blogger, I hope you figure that out or learn some terminology and understanding about suspension.
Aj...you picked a woods bike for motocross. Why? That’s not what it’s made for. You took a Lamborghini to a tractor pull. Smh 🤦♂️
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@@ay-leck1369 thank you.
@@Degenerate124 your welcome 😊