KTM OFF ROAD models EXPLAINED - Track VS Enduro - SX vs XC vs XC-W vs EXC-F in USA
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You are wrong my friend. The XCW is the same as the EXC, the difference is that the EXC (EXC for 2 stroke and EXC-f for four strokes) is the name for the woods/trail/enduro bike for Europe and other countries and the XCW is the name for the same bike in the USA. I live in Ecuador and we receive the EXC and not the XCW and I have compare them and the specs are the same. I used to have a 2016 KTM 300 EXC 2 stroke which is the same as the XCW in the US.
Right and wrong in the same time, xc and xc-w are really close in spec in USA where xc-f and exc-f, night and day... So maybe where you live the xc-w is exc 2 stroke, but still doesn't change a the fact that exc-f is a pig of a bike
Ok, I will clarify this a little further.
For 2 strokes: XC almost identical to XCW/EXC except having links and no street legal goodies (as lights, etc). Same gearin, same motor, and stiffer suspension on the XC.
For 4 strokes: XCF radically different to the XCW/EXC. It is similar to the SX with a little shorter 1st and 2nd gear, and plusher suspension than the SX. Still a very racy bike, not for woods or trail. I don´t like it for enduros.
Hope we are starting to agree my friend.... :) I have a channel you can look but it is in spanish. It is called MOTOEXTREMA... take a look at it once in a while, and thanks for your videos as whell.
I was litterally gona do this topic next because of all the trolls on my 250 review. Good vid bro!!
Just got a 2012 350 XCF-W, perfectly nailed the 1st gear and 2nd gear comment! Great video.
Still a good bike have fun
I love my 250sxf for trails and tight sections its just such a fun bike. Once I got the suspension sorted out and changed the front sprocket it was a whole different animal. I would of probably preferred a 350sxf for more power on hill climbs but obviously thats just the rider. But a lot of people ride sxf models off-road because they're cheaper to buy.
yeah but imagine, riding a 250xc , proper gear box, wide range, 6 speed, estart, same power, more grunt down low. if you love your SX, than imagine the XC !
Vegas RoManiac oh ya I know, next bike is probably going to be a 250xc
2 t are funnier
Sorry bud but I ride a 250sx in woods now and love it!
He didn't mention that's not possible, he just said that some bikes have more advantages in specific range of terrain.
Jozef Zábojník aaaaaa the first line the beginning of the video was if you don’t ride sx the bike is useless???
You're not riding heavy technical tight single track. If you are you're on the wrong bike. You're only hurting your abilities. SX stands for super cross. XC cross country.
@@RAD_Family it is useless unless you ride track. In comparison to the others, its crazy to have supercross bike on single track. You couldn't keep up with anyone on enduros. But if you ride track and that's all you have, I get it. But theres literally people who buy SX, that dont know any better. They love jumps and flat dirt. That's it.
I'm still confused. I have a 2008 530 XCRW six speed (Im guessing cross country, racing, wide ratio)
You got the best
I love the beginning im new to riding i have and sxf i know its super cross but i got it on trade, thing rips on trails and its so much fun but it hates going slow and it has a very sticky clutch
Lol is anyone here a visual learner? This was helpful for me thumbs up
Good job Vegas, I really like the XCW, does it all for me but had to up compression for a little help in 2nd gear
Good video man. Very informative. I definitely have a better understanding of my opposition now lol
BonesawMoto Gota catch me first!! 😀
gave you a "shout" on my next video , i hope you don't mind ! you inspired the video after all !
Vegas RoManiac that’s great. Can’t wait to see it. 👍👊✊ 💨
Old video but … 350 exc f and 350 xcf w are pretty much the same bike except for tires, one is street legal, both have emissions compliance and both are corked up ( both have charcoal canisters & intake reed valve )
so can i do some meduim jumps with the xc? because i do some track but its more like enduroo track with smaller jumps
How about the 98' 250 mxc do you know anything about them? I am going to look at one and can't find much about them.
Question: is KTM 520 SX-F Reliable for Adventure ?!!
Usually SX are for track , should be xcf don't SX .. in 520
Honda Gold Wing 4 spd. with splitter.
My 2016 ktm 125 SX has 6 gears not 5
I really disagree about the transmission thing at the end. I have a 17 250xc and there is no compliant with the transmission. 1st gear is a little high but it gets you moving quickly without wheel spin and the rest of it is perfectly spaced for the engine. And 6th gear, well I've had the bike for 8 months and I haven't ever found a spot where I could hold it wide and wished it could go faster.
Thank you very much my friend because you have gave me a really clear answer i have been looking for in the past Month.
I'm new to dirt bike and got the SXF 350, i like the bike a lot but i felt like there's something wrong with it because i felt it's a little torquey no matter how much i try to be smooth with the clutch until i reached the point where i that i felt riding my GSXR 600 feels easier than it and now i know the reason.
I really appreciate your info please keep macking this kind of content 👌🏾
Tha KS for watching
Thank you soooo much for this video!!! Was totally confused and now it’s clear which one I will buy!! Can you do this video for husky????! Hope so!!!
And 2 stroke EXC is whereee?
Well well hmm..I've got a 12 250sxf awesome woods bike just change sprockets n tinker a bit n u have it all folks...light nibble and best of both worlds..then change out if ur sx or desert even street..might bump up stator size for lights thou
U need to try a proper trail bike to see its advantages over an sx
Also have a 97 ktm 300 exc that's for the crazy stuff and a husky 410 exc for when I really want a fly but yeah know what ur saying bro..
Perfect comparison
Awesome
Nice vid, but have you tried the 2018 or 2017 EXC-F? whether standard edition or Six Days edition? I don't know why you talk about being a "pig" of a bike. It is almost as light as a 2018 Honda CRF 230F I have which I love for trails. Cheers! (only 3.5 hours put down the 2018 6 days, 350 and feels really light almost like the Honda but with so much more power and not as monstrous as a 450 SX-F which I really didn't like that much, but was very interesting to ride it on a tour for 3 days).
I don't know if I agree with the description of the EXC, it has the same suspension, gearbox and engine (choked down by emissions equipment, but pretty much everyone takes that off as soon as they buy the bike) as an XC-W, and the lights don't add that much weight, so it's basically just as capable as an XC-W. Here in Europe most people ride street legal enduro bikes with headlights in serious terrain and they do just fine.
just pull up the ktm usa website and you will see what im talking about, its heavy, and the head of the motor is detuned , so you are getting 3/4 of the bike for more money ! trust me once you know what to look for , the 2 dont compare !
Vegas romaniac exc its not hewy bike its very light and nible. abaut engine head if you take myne exc 300 for spin with red spring its hawer so match power its spin out all gears for what you need more power ? only in orginal exsaust need take out catalizator and then its go like crazy. exc 300 with red spring. only hit the trodle and dront go up ewen 5 gear :)
in sand you can start with 4 gear and 4 gear top speed is 80 kmh. if you wana see i can made a video
In Australia the only xc-w is the 125 and 150 enduro. we have xc 2 strokes but not 4 strokes and all the other enduro bikes including the tpi is exc/f
Very interesting to see the difference between models in different country's
Love This haha
wait wait wait. where is 2 stroke exc ? myne exc 300 2012 hawe 6 gear box and gap betwen gears are almost the same 1 is slow but 6 gear its go to 146 kmh. and engine hawe 57 horsepower. hawe starter but if you dont wana e start just take out batery and starter motor and its light like motocros bike. but ye exc version i know its made for europe.
Just în Europe, it seems there are difrent models available there
Next time explain the TPI
Sure
Well explained
Very good expalined haha
Thanks
I’m riding a 2006 250sx in the woods and it’s horrible! Yes it’s amazing at hill climbs and wide open stuff because that’s what it’s made for! Suspension is rock hard and I get tossed around unless I’m hitting rocks at 50mph then it starts to work. I’m selling for a cross country racing woods bike. For those reading this, sell your KX’s(f) crfr, yz(f) rm(z) and get a cross country racing bike. Track bikes are too powerful for wood racing
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Also, will you do a video for red sticker vs green sticker vs license bikes in California?? Would GREATLY appreciate it. There is soooo much confusion about this.....especially for us new riders...
I will try, planning a trip there in the future
I have a 2001 380 EXC 2 stroke it has 65hp
Here in Germany there are only 2 Stroke EXC's as Enduros.. strange.. only the 125 and the 150 are xc-w 's
Im just trying to find the KTM 500, 540 and 550 2- strokes of yesteryear..
Oh yuck, that's nasty. Haha
They are supposed to be great, smooth (except for the 540) engines. The big gripe from reviews then were, you guessed it- suspension. The last year there was a 500 class in motorcross, they even let the 550 run with the other manufacturers 500s, thinking that even more power was not an advantage..
I ride a EXC F 500, the way I ride I can probably just get a moped though.
I didn't wanna insult anybody that rides one, its just not for me ! i rode a 350xc with a 350 exc-f back to back and i was shocked at the difference
Vegas RoManiac I have a few bikes I love them all. I even have been seeing smiling on a Chinese pit bike more than once... But I have to say, when I just want to blast through the desert nothing so far beats the CR500! Everyone has their favorite.
Plz do a review on ktm 450 exc-r 2005 :D
Haha, yeah not gonna find one for sure
exc f you can do it all
Man I love your channel, but when you bust out the sticks you just lose me lol. Maybe get some toy bikes or something lol
Excf is a racebike
No it's not...
i speak spanish i dont understand im sad xD
Sorry
Nice vid :) The dry weight of my 2016 350 exc-f is 241 lbs (109.5 kg), not 260+ like you said.
well you need fuel to ride ... only ktm does that shit, dry weight :D its 260 ready to ride ... plue every one of them i saw has bags on the side so it;s like 300 pounds :D
Gas weighs 6.2lbs a gallon. So a little over 2 gallons is about 15lbs. So, wet on my US model ends up around 255lbs fully filled up. I have no saddlebags. You were wrong about the weight in the video, nowhere near 300 lbs, no big deal, but just admit it, maniac punk!
Anyway, just checked my service manual for the 2016 XCF-W and 2016 EXC-F and here's what it lists:
EXC-F (EU/AUS/BR, Six Days): 238 lbs
EXC-F (US model): 241.4 lbs
XCF-W (All models): 236.3 lbs
I downloaded the owner's manual for the other 350 cc KTMs from 2016:
SX-F (EU): 220.5 lbs
SX-F (US): 223.5 lbs
XC-F (US): 225.8 lbs
These are all dry weights. Comparing wet weights of bikes doesn't make much sense usually because different bikes can have different sized tanks.
Yamaha rules!
Yep