Is Meat Bad for You? Kurzgesagt Response
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- A response to 'Is Meat Bad For You? Is Meat Unhealthy?' by Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell which highlights the major research they overlooked and logical leaps they made which could lead to people feeling pretty good about including meat in their diet.
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Vegan Iron and Folate Levels:
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Iron Bioavailability and Vitamin C Study:
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Polar Inuits: plants and berries in summer provided vitamin C."
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Inuits life expectancy lower:
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Inuits lower bone density:
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Neu5gc is a sugar in red meat:
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NIH Heterocyclic Amines in ALL MEAT may cause cancer:
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Advanced Glycation End Products in Meat:
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Meat raises IGF-1: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2...
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#Meat #Kurzgesagt #Response
The point about climate change is much more valid than you show in your video. The event Kurzgesagt is discussing is a climate shift that took place in East Africa 2.7 million years ago, long before Homo sapiens and Homo neanderthalis evolved. Sure, some neanderthals may have survived off of plants, but that was long after this climate change event and not really relevant to disputing that point.
Kurzgesagt is talking about the climate change that forced Homo habilis to survive on meat. Fossils from that time clearly depict that H. habilis had to scavenge carcasses to survive. They hadn't developed the spears or bows that would eventually allow humans to take down large beasts, but what they DID have was stone tools that could crack bone. Bone marrow was a nutritious resource that most other Pleistocene predators weren't able to access, and so that was how H. habilis survived.
Source: science.sciencemag.org/content/347/6228/1355
For more sources on what I'm talking about, look for studies related to the Ledi-Geraru artifacts discovered in Ethiopia.
I'm all in veganism this video was way too cherrypicked and one-sided.
btw your videos rock keep it up!
While I deeply respect the work he out on his video. His primary issues are black and white fallacies and his focus on proving himself correct rather than a broad look at research and data.
Lol Hi Tier Zoo!
lol what are *you* doing here. what a nice bunch of people on this page.
Your videos are amazing thanks for clearing up the climate change
Mic, do a response video to VegSource calling out Dr Gregor’s recommendations on nuts and DHA claiming that it was based on bogus research.
Quick update: There is now a link to sources in their description so my statement is not correct, I believe that is the only mistake in the video. Maybe they were delayed, either way it’s nice to have those links right there :)
Mic the Vegan keep up the good work.
Is there a way to put this on the top of the comments?
@@burdenofexisting6886
What good work?
zaco 2121 I’m guessing you hate videos made with citations and facts made by vegans but you’ll believe an opinion piece by a meat eater or accept biased cherry picked studies.
@@burdenofexisting6886
And you're wrong. You can guess that Africans are purple and you're just as right. It's the other way around. This is an opinion piece made with cherry picked studies. Yes, it's inconvenient for you. The meat eater made a video with citations and facts. Quite interesting how you've put it. The "meat eater" put up cherry picked studies while this video has "citations". Well, that meat eater has put citations too and this "vegan" definitely put up cherry picked studies to prove his point. He didn't take into account that vegetarians excercise more, for example. Also, very interesting how you've put it, the "vegan" gave facts whi le the meat eater posted "an opinion piece". It's the other way around.
You might be interested in "The Book of Why: The New Science of Cause and Effect," which deals with the correlation/causation question and how causation is now discernible.
Thank you so much, especially for releasing a response so quickly after that video's release.
Yeah other vegan youtubers like Vegan Gains are too f*cking busy doing sh!tty live streams to grab easy money.
Leonardo DiCuckrio Dang.... Well the Truth prevails though and you can't hide it... Mic will definitely grow more and more in time and become more successful as he is sharing great Truth, evidence, as well as content!
French blue8 it's also too bad that they have such a massive following whilst sharing such untruth. That's a dangerous and deceptive thing as you have a lot of people that trust you and you just outright implant false ideas into people's minds with your influence. They should hire people to handle their data and fact check their work thoroughly at the least (and if they do, well they need better people!)
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I hate to be self-promoting here but I also did not expect such a positive reaction from such a simple comment I felt I should share! But yeah, it's really surprising to me because I've been getting into vegan discussion a lot lately!
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French blue8 listen man i have done zero research so their is a 90% chance I am wrong.
But is in fact, not dangerous , I mean if it was dangerous we wouldn’t be eating, the problem is over consumption, a lot of meat will damage your health (like all the food we eat), moderation is important, also the environmental problem are overpopulation and demand problems, not the meat
Also they never said “meat is 100% safe”, They said that it is has great nutritional values, but eating a lot of it can increase the risks for some diseases
Then again why am I wasting my time? I know how this going to go, We are going to start a reply war which ends in the word “sheep” or blind “follower”
It’s easier (and less productive) to make a one-sided argument that will appeal to a group of people than to show an issues full complexity by considering a large portion of the data, reviewing the pros and cons of each position and admitting that certain questions are still unanswered and up for debate.
Kurzgesagt’s latter approach (the full presentation of the facts rather than one side of them) did a good job cautioning meat eaters of the perils of eating too much meat while also not falsely claiming that eating any amount of meat is bad - the evidence frankly does not give this indication.
I am not condemning vegetarians or vegans, I am just saying that those two are not the only healthy (nor are they necessarily the healthiest) diets one can have. Studies that point to that conclusion are often confounded by other variables, such as, as Kurzgesagt points out, the generally healthier lifestyle led by vegans.
Generally correct, but they also make some claims that are just false. For example the claims about the Inuits or that you can eat fish without worry.
Why are we assuming that vegans lead generally healthier lifestyles? We have junk food vegans and we have meat eaters who also are also health conscious.
This “healthy user bias” gets thrown around a lot but is there any evidence to back that up?
It’s just a lazy way for you to dismiss evidence that doesn’t support your conclusion.
@@happygimp0 watch the video again then say this.
Cids video is also one sided.
@@happygimp0 yep you can, kinda, river non-predators fish dosent have significant amounts of mercury. And would you be 100% healthY only eating potatoes or cabbage? No of course you wouldnt.
Love your channel and the info you share!!! 💟
I actually wanted to ask you to respond to this video yesterday so this is amazing :D I love your content
Mic I Love How You Tackled All The Points With That Video And Was Very Respectful. I Support You 100%
Are you joking about the respectful part? He was titled the whole time. At one point I think he was mimicking it and mocking what are talking about. I think some of his points about the video are good and it’s fine for him to represent his points how ever he wants but we must be watching 2diff videos lol
I like seitan instead of meat. My digestive system can handle gluten. My microbiome is awesome.
I’m vegan but if you think seitan is healthier than meat, you’re pretty delusional. This shit has no nutrients at all it’s a processed food. Healthwise, meat is much better than seitan.
@@byReZio i wouldn't say meat is healthier than seitan...how is seitan that can mixed with tofu,beats,maybe chickpeas or other vegetables less healthier than real meat ?i'm sure you've heard the negative health effects of meat ? that doesn't really sound right
@Herbivorous Living Why are you called "Herbivorous Living", "sister"?
soul in a body Because meat can’t be mixed with beans?
I don't pamper my digestive system when it comes to vegan food. I like to eat edamame outer pods too (cooked of course). My microbiome is/are tough.
Great video, I noticed these points when watching the same video and someone in a comment mentioned your video. I love that there is anyone putting videos out saying "hey think about what youre doing." No matter what anyone else says I always go back to the sun. If I have to go through more living things to get to the sun's energy, I am going to change what I am doing. Big Shout out to Kurzgesagt for replying, but kind of missing the point in saying, "You really cannot come up with a way that eating meat is 'good' when you have to consider the animal death involved."
Thank you again for clearing this one out! ;)
I think it's pretty crazy how they talked about inuits as healthy people but didn't even went near the blue zones!
I agree. I mentioned the Blue Zones in their comment section.
With bro science, you can claim that donkeys can fly too.
Not even that. Saying meat is healthy becausethere is a realy, reeealy small population in an extreme climate that survive almost entirely of meat specifically because there are no plants in their region is such a dumb argument.
@@elpretender1357 It's also not even true, the Inuit never ate exclusively meat, but they probably ate a higher proportion of animal products in their diet than, say, the Tarahumara, and their health suffered for it, as evidenced by their mummies.
Meat and animal products is consumed in the blue zones.
Much awaited one, hope @vegangains also does a response video
Nice! I was waiting for this response.
"Can I have a plastic bag...oh, is already inside" That was strong 😄
Marec Wol hahahahaha
Just like plastic bags some plants stay on your digestive system for a LONG time
@@felougabular2652 are plastic bags anywhere nearer to "organic material" than "some plants"? :/
@@tshambee its the opposite but the output is the same, since some nutrients in plants are só complex that cows need 3 stomachs, we can digest plants, but not fully, most people cant even handle glúten, it dosent mean its bad for you, it just mean it isnt healthy tô eat a lot of it.
Honestly their other video on the meat industry is what started my track on becoming vegan.
Yeah pushed me some more too
How to know if someone is vegan, don't worry, they'll use facts and logic to prove their points...
You mean mean veganism logic and facts. Which don't really hold water.
Making something up and wanting it to be true doesn't make it a fact . It is also illogical
Biased sources aren't very factual.
Tourmaline you don’t need biased sources to prove that a vegan diet is good for you, the planet, and the animals. Harvard, Oxford, WHO, American dietic association, National Geographic, etc.
Not "logic" but *reasoning,* no mind can "use logic."
Thank you for taking the time to create this.
Thank you. I'm learning what means to be honest and have an informed opnion
Love seeing Mic's videos in my feed ^_^
Thank you so much
Whoaaa sources? I wish every CZcams video had these. Great video!
Thank you for this video. My son made me watch that cartoon on meet and I said a lot of the things you said. Good to know I wasn't off base.
To be fair they do have a link in their description to a detailed page of all their sources.
And as Mic observes at the beginning of this video, they didn't refer to the sources correctly in their video. Which doesn't make them "sources" but more like "here's some links and we'll pretend we studied and understood them." :(
@@LoreleiMission Word for word Mic says "Alright, let's look at what they missed or misconstrued about meat while using the research linked in the description, something they didn't do in their video which frustrates me."
I also checked the sources in the Kurzgesagt video and the ones I read looked fine, can you point to any examples of them misrepresenting what they linked?
Mic has a good video and I do think Kurzgesagt was biased but let's make sure we have our facts straight before we go throwing accusations around.
@@LoreleiMission Shut up.
But thing is those reports are very incorrect due to lack of resources and skill not to mention researchers being tipped off by rising sugar industries back in the 60s were these reports took place. Since then there have been dozens of reports saying that cholesterol in the meats had a very minor to no negative health effect on your body, same thing done with saturated fats and protein being bad for your heart and liver. Last thing is that most people substitute big meaty meals with snacks that are most the time processed food which normal are high in carbs, sodium, and sugar which are all a much bigger recipe for disaster than meat
@@owenywang you
Excellent video!
Another well done video! Thanks!!
I was really waiting for this videao
Thank you for the quick response on kurzgesagt's video. I used to enjoy their videos, but i guess i should have questioned their other "science" videos as well... i mean if they eff up this much on a topic with sooo much data out there but they say they always do intense research... come on 🧐🤦♀️
I can't possibly be wrong... it is them who are wrong even though their other videos are all well researched but THIS one is wrong because it goes against my beliefs!
@DingleBungus Everything you just said was completely random claims with zero proof. Want to prove Mic wrong? Start linking peered-reviewed studies.
@Throngdorr Mighty Exactly. Literally everything the fucktard said contradicts science. I'm guessing it's probably a religious nutjob who thinks "god" is real. What a moron.
Their video got me thinking tho, if they got so much wrong on this topic, how many more things do they get wrong or leave out of other topics I know nothing about and just take their word for it. For someone who has no idea about nutrition, that video is the be-all end-all of all knowledge about meat consumption. And also, they're not scientists, they're youtubers. They tell people what they want to hear in order to grow. These short educational videos are kind of scary.
I know their addiction video received a lot of criticism as well
@@hat_maker They deleted their addiction video after reconsidering how it was made. I don't know if they made another one, that might be the one you are talking about.
They have been very open about their process, admitting fault on videos that recieve criticism and even taking them down if they think it's warrented. Legitimacy is very important to them, and they have extremely extensive sources sites.google.com/view/sourcesismeathealthy/startseite?authuser=0 - far more in-depth than I've seen from any other youtuber. Of course they're not scientists, scientists do research. It's the job of media organizations like Kurzgesagt to package information in a way that is understandable to general audiences. They bring in multiple experts for every video they do - they referenced 5, 3 by name for this video in that sources link. They're not perfect by any means, even with that amount of rigor it's hard to consistently make bulletproof videos, and while Mic found some flaws in their video, he is extremely biased and misinterpreted a lot of what they said in an attempt to make a more biting response video himself. Personally I respect their ATTEMPT at being unbiased. Even if they don't always succeed, at least they try.
Mobotman correction, they took it down after being called out (by YTber coffee break) on how inaccurate it was
Please don't start thinking like this. Consider that Kurzegesagt is run by a team of researchers that try their hardest to remain neutral in every topic whereas Mic is literally one guy, not a scientist, a vegan trying to defend the vegan lifestyle. Yes he got a lot of things right, but he also cherry picks a lot of his sources to "debunk" other scientific data that doesn't fit his agenda. They've recently made a video about their process of making videos, I advise you check it out, because they most definitely are not "just youtubers and not scientists". Please understand that science is far from exact, and contradicting scientific studies come out literally all the time. There is very little consensus, especially concerning biology, so that's why Kurzgesagt tries to push the "do nothing in extremes but everything in moderation as best as possible" idea.
I was waiting for this!
So glad you made this! 👏🏽
“They don’t agree with my opinion therefore they can’t be neutral because only I’m neutral because I use facts and no one else does” -this video
Exactly. This dude is such a hypocrite.
Objects in Motion hear hear. This comment section is just one massive circlejerk of vegans and vegetarians shitting on balanced arguments
Thank you for your time and research, only wish your video had as many millions of views.
It won't.
Well done, worth sharing!!
I love this channel. Keep making the videos dude, you're the best.
Good to see Mic take on the “is meat bad for you?” video. While I appreciate that video’s ending which recommended cutting down meat consumption, it is inadequate given the damage meat has done to humans’ health, the environment and the animals.
People are less likely to even cut down their consumption after they see all the good news about their bad habits in the video.
What damage, dummy?
@VietnamD0820, that’s the least people can do! The idea that people have reduced their flesh intake is probably what keeps many people from going vegan!
Mario Þe Rebel
Agreed...no argument there
@@CarnevalOne Dummy? Is it necessary to call people names? It's bad form.
This sounds like it could've been written by joe rogan.
Idk if I'd compare Mic to Joe Rogan :x
He doesn’t give a fuck about what vegan retards think 😂
James Parker and vegans can’t stop promoting their fad diet
@@NahkriinKonahriikLXXVI so vegans are retards? Some of the greatest geniuses were vegetarian, like Einstein, Da Vinci, Tesla, Ramanujan, Gandhi, Van Gogh, Edison, Pythagoras, Twain, Kafka, Shakespeare, Newton, and many more. Veganism is a subtype of vegetarianism.
@@ND-gb3dd not to mention gladiators were also almost completed plant based
Great video! I'm sharing to help educate!
Mike you’re brilliant bro. Thanks. Great vid.
Your prompt response time to these videos is amazing!
what a joke
Haha... they were so incredibly schooled.
Glad we've got Mic on our team.
Its like mike is playing chess and they are playing candy crush saga
@@jimothyus this is so perfect !
Lol. You are all so brainwashed. Veganism is not healthy. Eating less meat is good but completely avoiding it is just stupid
@anime god
Link me a single study backing up your insane claims.
@HDvids101
My guy, you’re ignoring SCIENCE? That’s pretty messed up, might as well believe the earth is flat and there’s no gravity.
Also funny when meateaters claim veganism is a cult, despite the fact most cults do rituals where they sacrifice animals or humans. & who are the ones gathering around a table eating dead flesh every night? Sounds pretty clear to me who’s part of a cult.
Great video, Mike! :)
Well done! Very thorough!!
I knew you were going to do a response when I saw it in my feed. Kudos for anyone able to sit through it. I did not attempt. Even the small bits here made me want to breathe fire.
I see a lot of people getting pissed over the comments and I would just like to ask you to calm down if you are because emotional attachment especially anger clouds judgment and lowers confidence. As someone trying to serve as an example you are going to be judged so you have to think about your self image. Weather youre going to be seen as the pissed af vegan who can hardly ground their argument without getting too emotionally attached or the calm wise, mindful sage that came here to free the animals and save the planet. ;) And if you want to be on top of your game next time when faced with a debate you have to learn to let that shit go and use the cold hard undeniable facts.
@@user-zm5sk4ht9c Really great points. I'm hoping that more vegans will take this approach
You need therapy
@@abdullahdaone so?
Thanks for exposing vegan crazy once again
Ok my quick history
I had high cholesterol while eating dead animals so rather than take drugs I became a pescatarian still had high cholesterol saw forks over knives and what the health went vegan over night it’s almost 2 years later my cholesterol is perfect and i have never felt better both physically and mentally
Hubert Kam my lowered cholesterol is just a by product the loving all life and not knowingly consuming any animal products as well as eating a primarily whole food plant based diet. Thanks for your concern .
@@jessed1090 I love meat
@@vectorohyeah1163 and?
@@micahhumdinger7473 the only medical use for keto is to stop epilepsy
@@micahhumdinger7473 what is Keri
Love that you guys responded to that vid... while i usually like their vids, that one was quite a bit off!
I am so glad you did this!!!
i was watching Kurzgesagt's video and thinking if only Mic see this.......and the next video youtube suggested is this one 😂😂😂
As a german, your various spellings of "kurzgesagt" are hilarious😂👍
Thank you Mic.
So glad you did this vid.
To be fair, I was once convinced of the healthiness of meat. I was convinced by Weston A Price. I wasn't looking for good news about bad habits, I really wanted to be healthy and there was a time when I was really upset and depressed because I couldn't understand how we could be created to be so compassionate and empathic and yet be forced to kill other living, conscious beings in order to just live. I mean I know this world can be a little crappy at times, but how could that be true? So for me, that we do not need to eat animals to live and thrive is very good news indeed.
@@hubertkam7647 It's still a much kinder choice
Unfortunately plants are living too, even though they don't have a brain. Eating animals and plants are just the way of life. We aren't doing anything criminal as long as we don't kill their species off. They are too primitive to have emotion on a deeper level and only really care about the survival of the species at the end of the day. It's okay to eat animals as long as we do it responsibly. There should always be new animals of the species.
@@Bruhs246 Eating meat, and especially meat from the animal agricultural system causes extreme suffering. Do plants suffer? Maybe but it's definitely not on the same level. And what about fruit? Fruit exists for the express purpose of eating. So there's that. According to the Vedas there is a way to eat meat that is acceptable. The way to do it is to promise your victim and know that this will come to pass, that they will get to kill you and eat you in the next life.
You are so awesome and truthful. Thank you for every post that you share.
I came across that Kurzgeagt video too. I was hoping _MicTheVegan_ would respond to it.
Almost spit my beer out on my ipad, “are you on crack” still laughing!!!!
40 seconds in the video: " they didn't link articles in the description" that is not true!! there's a very long and well organized page with all the sources. "mic the vegan" ( which i don't know at all) is either lying on purpose to make his arguments stronger or is not capable if reading a description. In any case for me is impossible to take seriously a person like this and i am going to look for information elsewhere
good work man, doing stuff that I personally would be too frustrated to debunk
Yeyyy was waiting for this
You are entertaining as well as accurate....love from india
You are doing IMPECCABLE work, Mike! Extremely thorough. Well done!!
"It's a team of animators that don't think they're necessarily nutritional researchers"
Wow you got that so wrong. Animation is their own separate team. They have writers and it's their job to do research, talk to experts and handle the script. Shows that you don't do research and if you can't even handle trivial stuff like that I wouldn't trust you with more complicated stuff.
Everyone's also not mentioning what the World Health Organisation about meat. People can't handle the truth and/or don't want to hear it.
Lol, you trust the WHO, you think they want a healthy and fecund population?
I was hoping to hear you respond to this!
Meat is not unhealthy as long as you eat it only once or twice a week.
Cigarettes aren't unhealthy as long as you only smoke once or twice a day.
Yeah, good luck with that.
How is meat unhealthy? What's unhealthy about it?
Both those statements are true..
@@Cuasimodo2372 yes they are true. My point was that most can't do that when you factor addiction, convenience, and traditions.
Meat and cigarettes are not healthy but can be tolerated with no I'll effects at low quantities.
Consumption of these products in the US are too high even when thought to be used in moderation.
People like to argue that Blue Zone populations eat meat. But their diets are a lot more plant based (high in fruits, vegetables, legumes and whole grains) than the way we eat in the US.
With veganism there is no "moderation" or "once in a while." The commitment was made at decision to become vegan. There's no such thing as cheat days when it comes to animal foods as a vegan.
Cheat days on plant based diets can easily bring you back to the SAD. That's why I said, "good luck with that"
Meat is so unhealthy, that 100% of people that eat meat die because of it, right? people die at ages of 80, 90, 100 even 110, AND EAT MEAT. It has been like that for CENTURIES. But nooooo some offended vegans get sad because that little cute chicken died to feed someone. I've eaten meat my whole life, never had any health problem, im not overweight, i don't have fat, i do sports. No one in my family was vegan, most of them lived up to ~90 years old. We are animals just like every other animal and we are at the top of the food chain, deal with it
@@jorgefernando3778 so cigarettes must be healthy too.
Thank you Mic! You are literally saying everything I was thinking! I'm so disappointed with this video they posted I really looked up to thier videos and when I watched this I was shocked and so upset with the information they presented and I'm glad someone brought the true facts to the surface. So thank you!
I also felt the same disappointment with a couple of "Adam Ruins Everything" videos.
You think that they are supplying you with good information until they talk about something you already know.
Me too, literally my love for science started with kurzgesagt.
The system fights back with fancy videos to skew public opinion.
All they have to do is prove a little doubt. It could be done with misleading studies or just making up stuff that sounds convincing.
Thanks for this video! When I first watched the Kurzgesagt video I was so disappointed in it. I kept on saying there is so much data and other good studies supporting that meat is harmful. I was shocked with the biasness of the video. Good response video!
You should do a lot more of those Borat impressions. They're wild!
Kurzgesagt say that they are aaaaal about trying to provide the most accurate information and how much they fact check etc.
I kinda doubt that when it comes to them making videos on topics where the vast majority of their *patreons* who largely fund them have a strong bias towards a topic (and they themselves probably, too)
As if they would risk loosing funding because they offended people with inconvenient facts and logic
Their video was insanely problematic and - even though unlikely - I still hope there will be a dialogue about this meat video between them and more people like Mic. or doctors/researchers with data they left out/missrepresented.
We definitely need to share videos like this with them and make ourselves heard to get a conversation rolling.
Kurzgesagt has such a huge audience, and with that missinformation is extremely dangerous.
I already challenged the video in the comments. I assume someone has posted a link to Mic's response video. If not, I will.
good comment! Thats probably part of the problem
See the video they made about organic food. It's so bad 😂😂😂 first they cherry pick three studies that show a neutral view then expect you to come to a conclusion.
People have called them out on their factchecking before...
Yes you're on the right track but patreon money is chump change to this guy and a side-gig.
I suspect he gets payola by many BIG corporations. He's a thought leader now on CZcams and people take their thought cues from his channel about the big issues so big corp has noticed. I bet he's take big $$$ from meat industry corporations (chicken seemed to be really heavily promoted here) and proponents of nuclear energy in the past.
Don't watch much anymore cos most of the content is PROPAGANDA now and pushes status quo and corporate interests disguised as "neutral" perspectives.
I am thankful for your existence 👏🏻🙌🏻
Same! :)
1k people won't agree with that statement.
Stay rooted, my friends!
Hey. Ive just found your channel and i find your response very valid. Kurtzgesagt likes to look at thier criticism and i wonder if they will adress your points.
Wow I can't believe you listened to my request! Thank you so much! 💗
*Create a Better World by......Going and Staying VEGAN*
You mean generate, render, produce or make, not "create" aka *summon something from absolutely nothing, not form out of logical emergence.*
@@linyenchin6773 what? Lol go vegan
@@g.h7657 *Giant Robot Lives Matter!!*
@Louis Gedo - YES SIR!!
It's peace of mind too.
Thank you for doing this
Hey Mic, nice vid as always :)
But one thing I would like to point out: 14:29 Cholesterol is not a lipoprotein but a lipid, even though its not a triglyceride (your standard storage substance). Maybe thats what you wanted to say there? Pls correct me if im wrong :)
15:31 No Mic, it's an oblate spheroid.
The new people to the channel are going to tear you to shreds! :(
no its flat like a bed
simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblate_spheroid
An oblate spheroid is a famous shape. It is the shape of the Earth and some other planets. It is like a sphere squashed from the top so the diameter from pole to pole is less than the diameter from equator to equator. Shapes of this type are called ellipsoids.
Oblate spheroids have rotational symmetry around an axis from pole to pole.[1]
Many planets, including the Earth and Saturn, are oblate spheroids. The difference between a sphere and the Earth's shape is small, only about one part in 300.
Stars spin, and some spin very fast. The faster the spin, the flatter the oblate spheroid. The Sun rotates at 2 km per second, neutron stars have speeds of thousands of km/sec.[2]
Origin of flattening
In 1687 Isaac Newton published the Principia. He included a proof that a rotating self-gravitating fluid body in equilibrium takes the form of an oblate ellipsoid of revolution (a spheroid).[3] The amount of flattening depends on the density and the balance of gravitational force and centrifugal force.
In other words, the Earth is a spheroid because it rotates. Gas giants like Jupiter and Saturn are flattened by rotation more than the Earth.
@Mark Woods, no, eggs are oblate spheroids. The earth is a flat surface.
She might now be a perfect sphere but she’s beautiful just the way she is!
@@MictheVegan mic can you please not hate in people who eat meat we actually do not need suplements
I was hoping you would do this video! Cheers :) Can you do a video addressing Dr. Mike's 30 Day Vegan video?
That challenge was so bad. Four weeks. Two weeks he was in caloric deficit and suddenly veganism is the reason he couldn't go to the gym. A doctor that doesn't plan his own meals. And that box of food he got. I don't know any vegans who eat like that.
@@addyz0r Yes, extremely bad role model. He should be ashamed.
Ohh!, yeah that was ridiculous, I'd love to see Mic's take on that, though he'd probably say it's "ridiculous". lol
Meat is life. I'm on a carnivore diet for a few months now and I feel absolutely fantastic, unlike when I tried a vegetarian/vegan diet for a month.
Damn now this is a new level of stupidity, greed, & the placebo effect.
@@smoothcriminal5650 You have no clue. Check out Shawn Baker, Dr. Ken Berry and Paul Saladino. A lot of people have great success with this diet, many stories of people reversing chronic disease. But hey if a different diet works for you that's fine. Unlike you I don't need to insult people who eat a different diet.
I’m vegan, but I liked the kurzgesagt video. I don’t think that the only way to be healthy is to eat a vegan diet. You can be just as healthy eating a plant based diet with some bits of animal products. Promoting anything else just isn’t correct and doesn’t really appeal to anyone but vegans in my opinion. They also mention at the end of the video that everyone should reduce their meat consumption and try some more vegan options, which is awesome! Meat really is NOT inherently unhealthy for us, just like fruit isn’t bad for us either. However, eating a diet solely composed of either of these things is unhealthy.
Also, kurzgesagt has released a video all about the horrors of the animal agriculture industry so they definitely are not anti vegan at all. If anything, they are helping to promote more plant based eating to their audience. Just my opinion!
Finally a vegan that it’s not a dumb@ss that says “NoOoOooOoOoo MEAT ULTRA SUPER BAD FOR YOUR HEALTH BUT IF YOU EAT 1093939493949493992939 FRUITS YOU WILL BE ULTRA SUPER HYPER HEALTHY GO VEEGANN!!!!!!
thank you for all that you do, Mic 🙏🏻
Thanks for setting things straight. I just hope people will listen.
Yes! Thank you so much for that! Their video was just missing so much information and seemed to lack research ! I'm really disappointed to learn through this experience that their channel is very biased.
Aracnidonic acid too (sp?)- love you , you rock!
At 6:40 is that Einstein eating Fish?? Okay then 😂😂😂😂😂
gofia he was veggie lmao
*Mic the Vegan* [8:27]: _"In certain species of fish there's also high levels of TMAO…"_
- It's TMA (trimethylamine), not TMAO, which may then be converted into TMAO by the liver.
Ok…and the point is? It eventually becomes TMAO unless you don’t eat it and don’t have a liver to digest it
Kurzgesagt did actually link their research in the description of their video.
LOVE YOU THANKS!!
Ugh, when I was watching this video I was so confused and upset. Usually kurgs does a great job at presenting good information, but I totally sensed something was wrong when he continued to say that meat had no bad effects , and that fish is healthy? I'm sure they know about cholesterol and how much of a carcinogen meat is, as well as micro-plastics and mercury. I was really shocked when he didn't mention any of that. Thank you so much mic for explaining all of the logic leaps and more!
I get upset too when something goes against my confirmation bias.
What's wrong with cholesterol?
@@yingyang1008everything, it's a toxic compound that immediately kills you
Were you triggered by the bad man's hate speech?
Kurgs does a good job. He did this time too. He posted a response here. Mick didn't pin it.
Love hearing all the points I was yelling at my screen watching their video :D
In a nutshell is better than this channel because they say when they make mistakes but mic the vegan is just trying to say vegans are above everyone else
OMG thank you!! I had watched it and almost posted a long ass reply in the comments but changed my mind cos no one would have read it haha I haven’t even watched your vid yet..just know it’s aboutta be facts ✔️
Fire might have been first used to roast plant tubers to make them easier to digest (and tastier). E.g., raw potato vs. roasted potato.
I’ve been researching the effect of meat on health, and I find it very conflicting. It’s so frustrating.
Probably because people have different bodies, and therefore, different nutritional needs
Keto is the future
@TheRealJimmySaville now then now then lol
I was waiting for you to cover this and you never disappoint. I didn’t make it through their video past two minutes for me to roll my eyes and turn it off.
Lol mayby go watch it before you judge it was a good video
@@Mountainlion118 Didn’t need to because I saw the common uneducated remarks about the human diet.
@@nidusyaldabaoth2428 what?
@@Mountainlion118 yup
Because you are delusinal my friend. You can't take unbiased truths.
Very scientific and specific,,, your videos are seriously better.
I love your videos. This is no exception. Thank you for educating and entertaining!
the citation is in the bottom right corner at 1:27 ?
Thank you! I was watching this with my girlfriend and I was so upset. Glad you ripped em a new one!!
Don't be ridiculous. Vegans can't have sexual partners. Stop pretending.
@@seani6563 The kind whose heart functions optimally.
@@hereb4theend lol
Sean I
Classic incel response that rejects emotion and compassion for others. I hope you see the power and beauty of love and kindness one day. Good luck.
I love meat
just saw an ad about mayo with freerange eggs before your video....