Why Paul Saladino Quit Carnivore & Now Eats 300g of Carbs Per Day
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Paul Saladino’s Stance on Carbs & Insulin
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2:49 - Carbs & Insulin
5:08 - Protein vs Carbs on Insulin
5:56 - Insulin Resistance
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7:48 - Are Carbs Evolutionarily Correct?
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What a mess.
Hi, how are you doing with your type 2 diabetes?
I have been 100% carnivore (meats, eggs and some dairy) since January 2023, and as of February 2024, I am now more animal-based (have re-included honey and fruits.) At first, I felt amazing! I lost weight, my sleep apnea went away, depression lifted and perimenpausal symptoms got better. But then, by November 2023, I started having sleep issues, waking up with mega headaches, hot flushes and night sweats were getting ridiculous, and I found myself falling asleep in the afternoon, in front of the t.v. totally drained and lethargic. When January 2024 rolled around, I went to see my doc (who's himself a big advocate for keto/carnivore/animal-based) to get my bloods re-checked and I was in for a shock! When my doc got the results he said, "are you ready for this?" Turns out my fasting insulin had more than DOUBLED (from 5 to 11!) my HbA1C went up (5.2 to 5.7) my homocysteine skyrocketed from 5.2 to 10.2, and not only did my LDL go up from 6.1 to 8.82, the fragmented test was now showing oxidised substrates in categories 3 4 and 5 (it was all in cat. 1 and 2 in Jan 2023.) My mean particle size also went down, which is not good. He told me my body was under tremendous stress and I should start re-adding some carbohydrates to my diet (starting with 20 or so grams in the form of fruits and adjusting as I go along.) I guess my body just didn't like being in such a deep prolonged state of ketosis. Perhaps a 100% pure carnivore diet works for some folks, but for me, my body "needs" carbs to be happy and function at its best. We all learn and grow, and it is the hallmark of a wise individual to go beyond ego and keep our minds open to new knowledge and experiences. Thank you Dr. Saladino!
Huh. I'm 2.5+ years into my keto diet, and I'm doing great. I never chased high ketones or tried to force any kind of macro or calories, just free ran it and only kept carbs very low.
It's probably pretty individual.
Headaches too together with cramps bad sleep and lethargy. I am a cyclists and don’t do well on meat only ,freaked out one day after a ride, sneezed and my abs cramped so hard I nearly crashed.
Had to get off the bike, took me some minutes for the cramp to go. Sometimes my toes and fingers cramp. I am all for experimenting but fuck me the whole thing is not pretty. The other problem for me is weight loss. I don’t want that and I simply cannot eat enough meat to stay the same weight. I eat now carbs from veggies and fruit.
its all about what work for you. Know your body. That is what he is trying to say. You have to experiment and what work for you. Nobody dont know what pure meat diet will do to you in the long run
Thank you I am perimenopausal as well, And I have gone from vegan(5years) to keto/carnivore and part way back again. Cramps, extreme fatigue, hair lose, heart racing, constipation all plagued me as a keto/carnivore. Extreme weight lose, fatigue, and brain fog when I was super low fat vegan for more than a year. I did great as a vegan but eventually lost to much weight(including muscle). Im currently eating complex carbs/ with greens for a month, planning to add back in animal protein(egg whites first)as I see my weight get down where I want it. The little viseral fat perimenopause “pregger bellly"I could not get rid of on Carnivore is just slipping off in days. The long “interminant fasting” between meals while carnivore I could not do(hair lose, exhaustion, cramps), and when I ate more I started putting on weight. Going to try 1 small carni meal per day, and no sooner than 3 hours later eat: complex carbs+greens without fat when I am hungry the rest of my day(during this time when as a carni I would be fasting) and see how this goes.
Let's not forget for all of us aging/ overweight eaters: these guys are young, super athletic and hit the gum everyday. They can eat carbs all they want , don't have high blood pressure, diabetes, and burn the bit of carbs they consume easily. Going on a keto diet is a survival skill for the majority of us : insulin resistant, obese population.
Jay Feldman is super good to watch.
Saladino is 46….
You stated what the problem is. Lifestyle. Our bodies are not designed to be sedentary. Get active besides an hour at the gym and your body will be able to properly utilize its preferred source of energy. Otherwise people don't age gracefully because they aren't using their muscles. Age isn't the problem. It's the choices people make when they age.
your insulin resistance comes through too much fat around the organs. Protein spikes a higher insulin response than carbs. The only carbs you need to cut are the processed ones. Use the brain and eat fruit and rice and quit the white bread, cookies and other junk
Beautifully & perfectly stated 👍
Having seen so many videos between carnivore, keto, Paleo, vegan, vegetarian, etc... with the science to back it up.
There is no such thing as "One size fits all".
Find what works for you. We're all different, embrace it and do you!
Thats such a cop out. We are not all different. We are herbivores. Our physiology supports that. Health outcomes of plant based populations around the world supports that. Thats like saying all rabbits are different.
@@tropicallyrootedteam6594 Tell that to people with food allergies! "We're all the same stop being so dramatic".
@@tropicallyrootedteam6594 we’re literally omnivores lmao
They should all just say to stop eating the twinkies!
@@tropicallyrootedteam6594we're not herbivores you don't know know what physiology is. Fool.
Respect for being able to gather new evidence and changing opinions. Some of this went over my head, but the conversation reinforces finding the right balance is key.
He wasn’t gathering new evidence, he was gathering new funds..he sold out. Do a deep research dive
Not "new".
you think it is new evidence that fruits and veggies are good for us? LOL
"New evidence" You think plants being healthy for you is...new evidence? How dare you be this stupid?
Saladino didn't find anything good or new, he's really destroying himself more than he is helping.
I love that he’s admitting to changing his mind instead of sticking to his book just because…. We learn, we grow, we evolve.
Nothing to like, he has obsessive personality and is not qualified to give nutritional advice - end of story
yeah but maybe he shouldn't have written a book about what he is proposing as a "long term diet" when he only followed it for a short period of time and low and behold, it didn't work!
The problem is that he contradicts his own book, which he continues to sell...
@@CouchtotheSummit Carnivore does work. He couldn't quit sugar.
@@aakusterlol so his heart palpitations and cramps as well as difficulty sleeping we’re just from sugar withdraws over a year after stopping sugar?
The bottom line is Paul doesn't know the truth. He runs with an opinion, that is quickly marketed and monetized, then seeks to capitalize on these new "revelations." He then rinses and repeats every few years.
Simple not true. Sorry.
Or.. He runs with what works then reports back?
@@jorrikatt416 : No. He purports to know the truth, but changes the goal posts every 3 years or so. This describes a man who doesn't know the truth, but wants you to believe that he does, so he can bilk the public.
@@jacksquat4140 If the western population would only adopt a fraction of his eating habits, there would be a massive health shift to the better. He promotes organic, raw, local, whole foods. What's your problem with that?
@@jorrikatt416 : My problem with Saladino is he touts himself as knowing the truth, markets his claims, then reinvents himself every three years or so. This dude has gone from Vegan to Carnivore, and from pillar to post, while touting each as the "one". Until, of course, he needs to reinvent himself, or begin another lucrative fad.
Great interview, learning how to adjust to your body and needs is an amazing tool! I love beans can’t touch bread I get sick and beer will immediately swell my fingers, potatoes are strange and I seem to be fine with corn and some grains, it’s wild but if I eat too many refined carbs I get sick or can’t stop eating. Great books the dorito effect and the end of craving mark schatzker
Chapter 6 explains it all MIND BLOWING
The key word is refined.
The key is "...in metabolically healthy humans". While some adopt a low-carb diet for general health reasons, if you are a Type 2 diabetic, at least until you are able to reverse your condition, maintaining a low-carb diet just makes sense.
not only does this diet increase type 2 diabetes since both carbs and protein spike insulin, the chronically high MTOR will also promote cancer cell growth.
My A1C was 6.4 for over 20 years and destroyed my coronaries just had a triple bypass due to the damage so yes for those of us in the diabetes arena need low carbs in two months my A1C is now 5.8 we were not meant to eat carbs and definitely not sugar.
Even if it was healthier to eat animals, I'd still be vegetarian. I won't contribute to their suffering.
If you stop eating animals they will over populate and starve to death anyways this why the food chain exists for population control. By the way your brussel sprouts have 137 carcinogens in them. Plants have evolved to slowly kill those who eat them. @@jim-se5xc
@@jim-se5xcdo you eat plants that have been killed?
He's like the original scientists who used to test their hypothesis on themselves. I respect that he can change his mind. I also like how in interviews when people are awful to him (not you Thomas) he is always so calm and positive and never insults people back. That being said, I love being in ketosis myself. It makes me feel so calm.
These are the keto guys that I like, plus I'm not on a ketogenic diet
yeah but his experiment is still inconclusive because he hasnt died yet. we will know if he has lived the average longest life span after his death lol. all we can do now is choose and find out in the future
you dont prescribe a hypothesis to people who cud die from it.
Yeah, I find him to be very likable and always happy positive mindset, some say he’s a con artist for changing his mind but I don’t think he’s a bad guy, his style of eating is probably not for everyone though since he’s super metabolically fit and most are not there yet 😋
@@jamesortega8681 You COULD realize that there are people who literally die if they try going keto, right?
Not everyone is the same.
He’s still selling a book, that he contradictorily speaks against.
Credibility … diminished.
He should scrap that book from shelves and online and write a new one. And stop selling organ meats supplements 🤷🏻 and replace those with green and red extracts 🤭
This would prove he's honest.
It's called 'The Carnivore Code', i.e., there's still plenty of valuable information regarding meat in the book.
Bullshit. You shouldn't demonize the pursuit for truth, people show be allowed to change their mind.
@@DebbieTDP his position on organ meats hasn't changed at all.
yep. I dont trust him. He talks about HIS health & bring back in fruit (which is sugar) and Honey (which is sugar) and he never reflects that new people who have diabetes will watch his vids and think adding in fruit & honey is ok for them. it's NOT. Diabetics need to stay away from honey & fruit to LIVE. They should just eat the carnivore diet to heal their diabetes.
This is where I lost respect for him. He is very self centered and does not realize that he is healthy but, people that are seraching out his vids are not in the beginning and his advise will kill them.
This was super interesting. I'll be sticking with carnivore/keto to try and keep my seizures to a minimum. But the information is really good to know anyway. Always good to get the big picture whenever possible.
Something else you can try if you are able to get some is CBD (Cannabidiol). It has been shown to stop seizures along with other neurological disorders. I would suggest finding a trusted organic supplier, because like most things relating to medication you have to be careful you are getting something real and not mixed with anything suspicious.
@@dustinmorecraft8699 Yes, I've been taking CBD oil for over a year now. I'm using the best company I could find in Canada. It's actually hard to find good ones here with the way the govt. regulations work.
What seizures are you referring to?
@@dustinmorecraft8699Sorry I didn't see this until now. I have used CBD for about two years now from the most reputable company I could find in my country. Sadly it didn't work for me. If there is ever a way to import it from the more proven American companies I would probably try it again.
@@harryanderson5551I started having grand mal seizures a couple of years ago. Keto is the most proven natural way to lessen and sometimes even end seizures.
Well just like him, Dr. Saldino, I experimented on myself. Not testing my blood glucose but in terms of eliminating foods from my diet and observing the results. And a low carb diet is best for me. I feel great, and my annual medical exam and blood work as well as coronary artery scan all came back very positive. I am still eating low carb and will continue to do so.
Even Dr,Mercola, who fuly supported a high fat (and low carb) "diet" is now seeing the light and promoting low fat high carb. These high fat, high protein guys are waking up.
@@rachelgoodkind6545 It may be and I'm sure it is, that not all people's biological make up is the same and react the same. Some people may not be able to process alcohol for instance. I believe everyone needs to find out what works best for them. When I was young, before I knew about ketosis, I read Dr. Robert Atkins book in the 1990's, I was able to control my weight with just diet and exercise. Regardless of how much I ate or what I ate or how much alcohol I consumed. As an older person now who's physical workouts are nil except for work or walking my dog I effortlessly am able to keep my weight within a 10 pound window without even trying just by eating a ketogenic diet. Sorry for the long reply. Effortlessly maintaining my weight for 3 years straight now.
High carb is idiotic lol
@@rachelgoodkind6545 who are you comparing to tho? look at these two, this guy looks like an hyperactive freak who can't stop moving, talking, and working out for a second, the other giant monkey in front of him is so buff it looks like his biceps are going to explode at any moment from the sheer pressure, of course eating a lot of carbs isn't a problem for them, and they probably eat plenty of fat too.. but the average person barely works out, comparing them with these two monsters is insane
I am going to assume everything he says about "sugar being good, even in abundance " is for Metabolically Healthy, Lean, Very Active people with good amount of muscle mass. Otherwise he lost all credibility in regard of giving people medical advices and information, since most people who do search for medical advices aren't Healthy
Exactly, plus I'm pretty sure too much refined grain and sugars are not recommended for anybody in the realm of overall inflammation in the body. He should probably mention that.
4:13 to be fair he did indeed say just that. He is in such a frenzy though that the speed in which he is speaking it's easy to miss it.
@@ArgosySpecOps that frenzy is scary...
I'm so relaxed since ditching veggies and fruits and eating just meat, fish and eggs and some dairy 🤫😄
Yup, to him it’s a given, but even to those who are metabolically healthy but need to abstain because of addiction issues like me, it’s STILL not a good idea. What I don’t like is how he touts it as a general prescription rather than a more nuanced OPTION or variation to the meat-based lifestyle.
You took the words right outta my mouth. I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that tribe he referenced ain't sitting on the couch playing video games. It's the common denominator in all diets. What you take in, if it's not used as energy, will be stored in some form.
This is exactly why you shouldn’t listen to “gurus” when trying to figure out you health.
That makes no sense. Would you rather follow the advice of medical docs who put you on meds and never take you off? These extreme intelligent, healthy and fit men continue to learn and experience things. It’s the “gurus” who won’t admit they have found new reasons to adjust their position you should run from.
I totally disagree. These “gurus” are actively reading the research and testing out theories on their own bodies. Would you rather learn from someone who came to a conclusion 20 years ago and never changed their mind even though there is a new evidence??? Would you prefer to learn from an allopathic medical doctor, who gets almost no nutrition training in their entire career, and is encouraged to offer drugs for every symptom??? Listen to the “gurus” and do your own research, and most importantly…listen to your body. Every human body has its own requirements at each moment in life.
Regardless of who information comes from it should always serve as a tool. Ultimately you’re the builder of your own reality so the more tools the better life you build.
@@NuovoTeHolisticMedSpaah, the false dichotomy. I have to follow the advice of a CZcams health guru as the only alternative is take every medication a mythical doctor could potentially prescribe to me
I dont understand ur statement.. he is a doctor.... ur argument is stupid
Went from 10.6 to 6.2 A1C after I went on a carnivore diet. Never felt better.
Same here, with different numbers. As a T2 in remission, if I tried to eat 300 grams of carbs per day I would not have toes or legs.
Not a huge deal. I went from a 7.6 to a 5.3 on a high-carb starch vegan diet. When a carnivore gets his A1C test taken it's deceptive, because it is a test on glucose metabolism in which the KEto/carnivore person is depleted of glucose. Not jumping on any bandwagon but if you research Dr. Neil Barnard he discusses that diabetes is actually developed by the intramyocellular lipids or fat inside your muscle cells that interfere with insulin signaling. I am not a vegan, but I do watch my fat intake and eat plenty of carbs and fiber.
My A1C is 5.9 on a high carb diet.
My A1C is 5.9 on a high carb diet.
I am on a high carb diet. 65 years old. I was pre diabetic. Now my A1c 5.3
I admire anyone who can state what they know when they know it , it’s not about admitting a mistake it’s about making it right when you know better
This guy is a joke. I watch him for fun. It never fails me. He can not even articulate a coherent logic. What's really funny is that no matter how many times he expose himself, people just praise him regardless😂
and what credentials do you have?@@lumanliu8457
Imagine...living out in the wild, without grocery stores...riding roller coaster blood sugar levels and needing to eat 7 times a day...WITHOUT grocery stores.
Ridiculous.
Or fast food restaurants?? Good God what did we ever do without those?? Wild.
Thank you for using your brain. Many people don't.
The important thing to remember, regardless of what your diet constists of, you want it to be as fresh and natural as possible.
Not necessarily. Good luck eating raw meat of all kinds on a consistent basis.
The issue is people are misinformed about what’s natural for humans. Most people actually believe that humans in the Paleolithic era ate primarily meat and that’s just categorically incorrect. So what people are being told is natural is a lie. And people have been processing foods in some form since we existed
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 What do you mean luck? It's simple, put it in your mouth, chew, swallow, done.
@@TehLiquid Right but most people try to plan ahead to avoid risk of diseases. Animals tend to be less sanitary than humans and most people don’t have the ability to test their food comprehensively for disease. If someone is only going to live for a few minutes then Salmonella, E. coli, Yersinia and mad cow disease aren’t really concerns but generally speaking humans hope to live 70-80 years these days. Also, if someone is alergic to meat, regardless of whether disease is present in the animal, the person could have a life threatening reaction. So it’s more complicated than simply a binary decision of - is it fresh or not?
love that he can adjust his thinking to the new information he's seeing. very cool. I think that the most important thing he said was about the shape of the insulin spike to a glucose load are normal IN A METABOLICALLY HEALTHY individual. Yup. that's the key. If someone is not metabolically healthy, this is not the shape of the curve.
Being strict Carnivore and Intermittent Fasting/Carb cycling for the last few years, I noticed that I feel MUCH better with a little bit of fruits and honey and carbs in general. For me, it's all about TIMING. Post training, early breakfast and whenever I have been super active for any period of time I find that carbs have helped me out so much, especially in terms of rest, recovery and sleep. The sleep is the MOST improved I found. I have tried adding more salt and electrolytes and even CBD for years, in reality, some fruits/carbs was the key! During the day, I still keep my carbs very low to zero but now I time them accordingly to when I need them or feel like I want to eat them, namely post training and early breakfast. Any other time of the day I don't feel as if I need them.
Hi sir, can you provide some advice on what carbs I should integrate? Pure carnivore for 11 months & lost 50lb in the process. For the last few months, I’ve been feeling extreme fatigue, brain fog, memory issues, muscle stiffness/soreness & an inability to focus during work or social gatherings. I’m considering integrating honey, and possibly fruit & brown rice. Not sure whether to make that leap or not, and if yes, what carbs to integrate, how much & what times of day. Could you please advise? Thank you
@@Cobra_Khanthey're talking fruit, definitely no grains. The fruit I've heard them mention most is watermelon and mangos. Try some watermelon whilst exercising or just before exercising to start
tldr
@@Cobra_Khan
I'd stick with basmati white rice. Brown rice is often high in arsenic and not that easy to digest. Throw in some berries too.
@@Cobra_KhanYou’re not eating enough fat, beef liver once a month to keep up with the vitamin deficiencies. Get enough salt.
Love watching a Thomas and Paul discussion. Will always click on these friendly discussions
Nope...not really, Paul has lost ALL credibility in my book now....maybe he has sold out to special interests. Something is not right about what he is claiming, Paul is the ONLY one that I have heard of this claim about carnivore and skin condition, so he is ONE person vs. thousands of testimonials that consumed clean carnivore and CLEARED up their skin conditions along with MANY other chronic illnesses they had before avoiding carbs including vegetables. What I have personally come to realize is that we do benefit from plant based products through the meat that consumes those plant based products and turns into digestive material that WE can then consume and benefit from. Research has proven that our digestive system absorbs the nutrients and proteins from animal based products at a MUCH higher rate than it absorbs through plant based. It's the animals we consume that convert those nutrients into a product that WE can digest at a much higher rate through their meat and organs. If we were meant for plant based only, you wouldn't see people struggle and eventually become malnourished on vegan...but they eventually do after a year or two when it finally catches up to them.
@@shawnlewis1918 i cand send you others, he isn't the only one bruh
Carbs, to me, are an award for being active. If I’m having a more relaxed day, I feel guilty eating them.
Yeah, well, yours is just about the most rational and healthiest (IMHO) perspective someone could have.
Food should never be a reward.
@@JaysonT1 Thanks for the comment Dunning Kruger.
😂😂😂@@BeachJedi101
Very interesting. I've been on a second week of carnivore diet, and have had cravings for fruit. I gave into eating watermelon, and oranges occasionally, and I've felt fine, still lost 5lbs so far. In one and a half week, that's a lot of weight loss.
Week 3 also had mandarin craving
Don’t be surprised if you lose weight slower than what you would’ve being pure carnivore. This is fine. You can still lose weight.
I had the fruit cravings to and went with it, in moderation.
@@rebeccabriggs2982 The concept is to recognize that humans are a dual fuel species. We can run on glucose and we can run on ketones. Two fuels are better than one. Even if you eat no carbs, your body can still easily make both fuels. If you eat too many carbs, it is very difficult to make both fuels.
@davidgmillsatty1900 yes! I saw a book here in New Zealand called The Hybrid Diet and it's about the two fuels and switching between them.
"relaxed ketovore" for me works best. 2x a week i get to spike my carbs intake, mostly from the sweet fruits (bananas, mangos, oranges, etc), and manuka honey. Also the collagen absorption is greatly improved when paired with the vitamin C intake (NOT ascorbic acid but real vitamin from the fruits). So, yes, Saladino is spot-on. thank you for your contribution guys !!!
A balanced diet and avoiding obvious junk food is the best “diet” to follow. I don’t understand all these extreme diets people go on.
Agreed anything in extreme has consequences. It might not show up now just like a cigarette smoker doesn't show health problems immediately
That's the best diet if you don't have any health issues. The extreme diets sometimes help with certain health issues.
😆 You think being optimal is extreme? Okay, stay mediocre 👏 Carnivore ftw
@@aakuster Marcus Aurelius calls it temperance also known as moderation balanced path between extremes
@tsebosei1285 eating carnivore is not extreme😆 our species evolved that way. Eating all the other crap is extreme.
Here's a problem in the Carnivore/Keto/Low Carb community. There's a tendency to say "carbs" when what is actually damaging in overly processed, refined carbs loaded with sugar and high omega 6 fats. There are definitely people who are outliers and certain conditions that can be impacted by "clean" carbs, but for the vast majority of people with CV, diabetes, obesity, etc, it's really the standard American diet that makes us sick.
100%. Refined, processed carbs and vegetable oils are the problem. Dr Benjamin Bikman: prioritise the best proteins, don't fear fat and control carbohydrates.
Easier said and done. I ate the cleanest carbs and eliminated sugar from my diet, also I never used seed oils. It wasnt until I threw them out from my kitchen and stick only to meat and eggs that my health improved. The truth is that Saladino is a sugar addict and he can't give it up.
What do you eat in the morning? Eggs and what else?
I’ve seen in keto group a lot of chemical artificial sweeteners and alternative flours to still eat their junk food. It’s not a real food lifestyle change.
@@Nicetrybro563 That's nonsense. If you want to stick to eating only animal products, go right ahead. The science is crystal clear. You'll come to regret your choice.
I admire a man who admitts when he is wrong and changes his opinion, this has to be a positive thing..I'm more of a plant based advocate myself but alot of information that Paul gives is very good
just wait, in a few years he'll be writing "The Plant Based Code".
plant based is a marketing scam word. You feel good using that term?
So is carnivore. Dont tell me you think humans have the same digestion as cats. Humans are frugivors, just ask Wikipedia @deanwilsoncoupang
He is still wrong...
Ewww, plant based! No way.
I love this. It makes a lot of sense! I think elimination diets are good for a time of cleansing whether vegetarian or carnivore but really its good to listen to your body’s tendency to want variety long term! The BIG deal is staying away from the fast foods and many additives that are unhealthy.
Ok which company bribed this guy? 😂
BIG HONEY 😁🍯
Bill Gates..
If you’re active and like to lift. Meat fruit and honey will have you feeling amazing
The Queen Bee has allured and seduced him to work for The International Beekeepers Cartel!
@@Truesoda I've joined the religion of keto, but I started lifting again. I found out that I have a painful exhaustion for days after lifting, if I don't eat about 300ish calories of carbs right after lifting. I can be completely keto after that immediate intake for days until I lift again.
Bottom line for me is that I can't do any carbs anymore. They make crave like crazy and I simply cannot eat carbs in moderation. All or nothing for this carb addict.
He's saying you can eat as much carbs as you want. Just get them from fruit + honey, not cakes, sweets, bread, cola etc.
@@dmythica Real honey is damned expensive and still a sugar bomb. Buying cheap honey, you might as well just buy granulated sugar because it's likely all the trace chemicals are not present.
@@TehKaiser not sure where you live, but I can buy 1kg of organic unheated honey for £16 in the UK.
@@dmythicano such thing as good carbs .
@@adamwarlock5286 I'm just explaining what Paul was saying. I don't care if there are good/bad carbs or if all carbs are bad.
Its nice to see the experts admitting they were wrong, its very rare to see this and very refreshing, thanks for your honesty
I think it comes down to whether you're on maintenance or actively seeking to lose weight and to fix your metabolic health. I see ketosis as a tool, not a lifestyle.
Exactly. I am using it both to improve my metabolic flexibility, as well as to lose weight. When I am about 3 months in, hopefully I will have hit my target weight, and I will slowly introduce a significant amount of healthy carbs back into my diet. Examples being more whole fruits, legumes, honey, sweet potatoes, quinoa. I will rotate keto and my regular diet to maintain my metabolic flexibility.
I agree. Ketogenesis can be an efective and relatively quick way to fix insulin resistance, but for most people once you hit optimal metabolic indicators, the consumptiom of natural carbs in a balanced diet will actually be ideal.
I see ketosis as a lifestyle. I have absolutely no good reason whatever to eat inflammatory, addictive carbs and I prefer to be in excellent health all the time instead of constantly rotating between addiction and healing.
@@coolnamebro that's where i was a couple years ago.
I would agree but carbs are a very available source of food and efficient source of energy. From a survival perspective you want to stay adapted to both
@@coolnamebro
Preach Paul totally agree and I’ve lived it too !!!! Both sides of it carnivore purist to now animal based with fruit and some low carb vegetables that I thrive on !
What kind of low carb vegetables is better ?
I followed Paul back then into the CV diet and was unable to stop eating some carbs and felt like a failure for not being able to stick to it. I always felt better with dairy and fruit, so i am now animal based including dairy and fruit, some honey.
Same here , Keto is not for everyone and definitely not sustainable for a long time , for short periods for better clarity and weight loss and some health problems could be a great tool
Fruit and honey were my biggest cravings trying CV. I got so sick trying CV, even with increasing electrolytes and trying to force myself to eat. I got to where meat and eggs repulsed me, which is crazy because when I ate SAD I craved protein. About three weeks into it, I ate a half apple and felt so much better. Now I added some fruit, honey and low carb veggies back. I downloaded a keto tracker and mostly follow real food keto, eat some carnivore meals and add a fruit or vegetable not really keto approved. I track to keep my carbs less than 100 which is a big improvement over my previous diet. I usually stay around 50 carbs or less. I get red “not keto approved” on my tracker, but I’m doing it for myself, wanting to lower carbs. I have cut out grains though. Which I loved rice in stir fry and oatmeal with real fruit. I’m still seeing improvement in my health eating this way. I was getting metabolic syndrome and right on the border of becoming diabetic. My next checkup is April. I’m interested in seeing my labs. Especially the HDL, A1c, and vit D.
Thats great to hear, carbs are not the enemy but processed food is , personally i didnt feel as good on lower carb since i train 3-4 times a week i started eating 150-300 grams of carbs but i dont have any carbs until mid day or before / after a workout and i have significally less cravings than i had on keto which i really struggled to do@@cathyann6835
I'm trying it for the first time and I'm finding I really have to eat some fruit.
I think it makes sense. Everyone is different too. Some people do really well on CV. Others need some carbs. It really depends upon the individual's needs
Ah...you have learned Paul!
Think back to our conversations when we did our podcast together, and what I shared regarding my many years experience helping people individualize their diet for their "specific needs"...and how those needs literally change not only day to day, but "event to event" in life....
Great to see you living a more balanced life and inspiring others to do the same.
Ah Ho Great Spirit!
Paul Chek
RESPECT! Not just a talker, but a doer.
I do the paleo diet(really primal because I need some cheese) and I still think grains are not designed for humans because we don't have the correct digestive systems like cows. And seeds in general have lectins which can cause havoc but I tend to get my carbs through roots, tubers, vegetables ,berries. And maybe occasional fruit like a banana. But these people didn't celebrate grains or cane sugar. Also honey was something that people had to find and he had to fight through the bees to get it wasn't just really available in food and desserts.
I bought his book but havent gotten to it, but with the way hes speaking i may just throw it away
He used to be the Carnivore Md back then.
Not doing what he preached 😅
Yeah it’s not science. It’s what’s good for him.
Well to be fair, Dr Jordan Petersen also says that the only meat diet specifically helped his health issues as well. Not everyone has the same digestive system and that's important to understand when understanding health. I love veggies and meat, but I can understand if someone is saying that veggies haven't helped them.
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@@iaincrawford5472 you're not listening to what I said. I didn't say that we don't have the same digestive system. There are many factors in digestive health that is all based on the bacteria in your intestines that changes ones capabilities to digest. Also, genetics play a role in certain tolerances to certain foods as we are still creatures of evolution. Just because you're a simple minded dumb dumb, doesn't mean that we all are. That's why some of us live much shorter lives than others.
I have had ezcema in the past which I realised is related to stress in my life. Although its possible that carnivore helped with ezcema for Paul its just as likely that it was the placebo effect (which isn't a negative, its a very powerful effect). This is why proper medical studies are required rather than just personal experience when making recommendations on a population level
These things are all on a continuum based on your own physiology . Paul may be doing great with his metabolic markers with 300 grams of fruit and honey, but I would argue that his physiology is not the norm of the average Joe who’s insulin resistant who definitely would benefit from a season of low to no carbs until their metabolism changes and then perhaps more carbs would be appropriate for them. We’re all our own N=1 experiment and what may be good for us this week may not be the case in 6 months.
You are so much smarter than the Paul in the video.
Pretty interesting, I am a pretty strict keto guy but do allow carbs (select ones) in on occasion or everyone and a while.
Interesting. I believe context matters too. Paul is very active, so his body may more easily netabolize catbs. Other people are very sedentary by choice or necessity, so they may experience more difficult to metabolize carbs and at higher risk of insulin resistance/prediabetes/T2D among other metabolic related issues. They may also be at increased risk of obesity,,which initself is and independent risk factor for several health issues. Only exception is the super genetically blessed(not most of us) who can get away with overconsumption of sugar and carbs, end up seriously obese, and still live long healthy lives.
Don’t give lazy fat people an excuse. We’re humans. Get up and move your body, unless you have no legs or physically can’t move stop being lazy.
This is the point.
I can't understand people who don't like to move their body
No one has ever gotten fat from eating fruits. It’s not the carbs it’s the type.
@@jpeoples that's what I've said a million times. People get fat from TOO MUCH food and from junk food. Then they go around blaming the fruit. It's an example of gaslighting yourself into believing in a BS story.
I'm 6 weeks into a ketovore diet and just watched this and became even more confused than I already am, there's so much conflicting information available these days. I'm trying to be strict carnivore during the week, and add some low carb vegetables and berries on the weekends, but its not going so well. Eating some lettuce gave me bad stomach cramps, I never used to have problems like that with lettuce. I'm wondering if the key is metabolic health. If you are not metabolically healthy, which I'm not, then first you need to heal, by removing all the foods which are causing problems, then you can slowly add back some healthy carbs once your metabolic health is back on track. I don't want to be a 'carnivore', I just want my health back, and figuring out how to achieve that is confusing.
Just my opinion but the reason Carnivore "heals" you is not because meat is magical, it's because the diet black & white forbids you eating all the stuff that's harming you. I did Keto for a while and never got anywhere really, with almond-flour bread recipes and keto snacks piled in, no wonder. Carnivore was the right level of restrictive for me personally. Two years of it and I'm healthier, stronger, a good weight, better skin, better posture, clearer eyes... I don't think I could have healed without removing everything, I don't "moderate" well, at all. I agree with your 2nd half... nowadays I'm slowly trying to integrate other foods in and seeing how I feel... but I had to get here first, definitely. I went probiotic route rather than honey as he described, sauerkraut and kimchi, I noticed that I handle it fine. I must remind myself that Mr Saladino does not mention pizzahut & soda for his carbs... that will be the biggest trap I'll have to avoid, the easily accessible and addictive crap, that made me sick in the first place.
Regarding diet I think It all depends on how you have been eating and for how long. I understand that elimination diets are touted as the way to go but I think best to 'first lower' and 'then eliminate' the major common allergens. Like ...Soy, Dairy, Eggs, Nuts esp. Peanuts, Shellfish 'then perhaps some other 'plant toxins' like gluten, nightshade foods, highest lectins, highest histamine, highest oxalates MSG and highest Free Glutamate etc. I have also lowered highest Nickel foods (BTW most lettuces are high nickel.. .... Big project.
Good idea to work on healing the gut with things like Slippery Elm, DGL, L- glutamine, ION* Gut Support (aka old name was RESTORE) and Mastic Gum to name a few. I know how complicated this is but what I'm hearing is that it is best to take a long time to transition one's diet as the microbiome needs the adjustment time. Do not make radical changes quickly. I'm in a similar place and looking for a practitioner to help.,
Optimal health is not just about food....check out the work of Dr. Jack Kruse MD author of Epi-Paleo Rx. He believes that food sensitivities can be cured with other mostly free protocols like light management, CT therapy, grounding.water, and magnetism. He teaches light is more about health than food.
Diet + lifestyle changes = an even bigger project.
I pray for you @Jen.K that your find the health and healing you are seeking.
Most of these diets are just fads that prey on people’s need for “quick fixes”. Skipping processed foods is key, but some people feel better being vegans, others feels better minimising vegetables and being meat heavy (important if you’re having cross allergies, or sensitive to oxalates or plant toxins). You have to try what works for you. Most feel better eating both but in normal proportions. A stomach cramp reaction to lettuce doesn’t make much sense as a reaction to lettuce itself, it’s not a high allergen or hard to digest food, it was probably just a bacterial infection or a reaction to some anti-bug chemicals (lettuce is very hard to wash properly, and is often coated with bad stuff).
I'll add to the confusion, haha. My naturopath(it's a good idea to have someone helping you) had me on the AIP diet, which is an elimination diet. Just eat meat and veg----no nightshades(including potatoes, though sweet potatoes ok), nuts, legumes, dairy, coffee, alcohol, or grains. After 6 weeks on diet, start reintroducing potential allergens (eggs, dairy, etc,) one at a time, to se how you handle them. Very challenging diet/routine but maybe the best way to know what's bothering you.
@@Percyfaith7 thanks for your reply, suggestions and good wishes. I hope you find what you are looking for also.
Glad you interviewed Dr. Saladino. It takes a lot from people in society to admit when they have been wrong and refine their message. Also, was great to hear about the kidneys from Dr. Saladino, I never heard about that aspect before.
Yeah it's nice of him bur it's not common. It just shows how you should never blindly listen to people in the internet telling you something is healthy or not. They might just change their mind one day and they're so invested in the message they spread they can't admit to be wrong. So they still keep spreading bs
@@josephpchajek2685 Yea I don't understand how Saladino is getting praised here? Literally everyone with a working brain told him what he was doing was stupid and that he should stop spreading misinformation. Now that he's changed his views ever so slightly he's amazing for admitting he was wrong? The dude is still putting out absolute garbage information and remains to be just as dangerous as ever for other people's health. He's still wrong about a lot of stuff and should stop talking.
Nothing wrong with listening to the viewpoint of influencers. I tend to listen to the ones like Thomas who reason using scientific literature -but understand that science advances, and view points may change. In the end, how food affects your body is very personal - you have to experiment and find what works for you in helping you remain healthy.
The last piece you guys mentioned, fasting insulin levels improved, can you share what they were and become after introducing some carbs? My fasting insulin was 3 and some say it should be higher. Would love to know what you think is ideal. Thanks! Aldo did your A1C take a hit after that? Reintroduction of carbs?
From my research brother. 3 is great. Anything lower than 5 is recommended lower than 3 is extremely insulin sensitive
Fasting insulin of 3 is probably good, but you really want to know if it's truly insulin sensitivity or burned out beta cells. The thing to do might be the Kraft test. Unfortunately, for the Kraft test to be accurate, you need to work your way off keto. What it would do for you is show how healthy your insulin response is.
Ultimately, you should get advice from an experienced diet doctor (I.E., not one ignorant about keto.)
Paul posts his blood work periodically.. Just search for the most recent one on his channel
I was almost convinced about the carnivore diet, but I always felt like something was wrong with zero carbs. I feel like we need some carbs. Thanks for confirming.
Respect to Paul, some people never change their point of views for fear of criticism, the worst thing anybody can do is espouse their ideas/theories and never change.
*$47.00* for 1 tub? Pass.
Sounds like Paul got tired of eating only meat and is looking for an excuse to eat sugar. Most people cannot eat abundant carbs and be healthy long term.
He’s not eating processed cereal or candy, he’s eating organic fruit & the best quality raw honey, I don’t think these things are bad for you and everyone is built different, I know I probably can’t get away with the same amount he does since I don’t surf 3 hrs a day lol 🙃
@@RinaValentina Insulin resistant people can't eat either of those things. In other words, most Americans can't eat those things.
Sugar is sugar no matter what form it takes... glucose, fructose or sucrose. It all comes down to the amount one eats and how often they eat it when it comes to health.
The problem with excess fructose (fruits) is that your liver will start to complain as frutose is only metabolized by it. Honey, while having some healing properties, has the same effect as sugar.
he looks much older after adding in fruit & honey which is SUGAR. See dr bergs vids on honey & fruit and why you should avoid it.
It's real simple folks, if you're sitting around all day doing nothing, eat minimally. If you're working out hard or walk for two hours, eat more. Adjust as needed!
Mad respect to both.
while doing carnivore for the past 18months, because multiple sclerosis. i'll often cheat a little when i'm stress, usually with honey and yogurt. which a little honey relaxes me a lot or takes the edge off, especially with tea
This is a great example of finding what works for you. I'm still too new to carnivore to experiment too much. But if I can get my health stabilized I will certainly want to play around a bit with what I might be able to add back in from time to time.
FINALLY! We are coming back around to realizing that we are OMNIVORES!!! Of course carbs are OK, just not what we have done to them nor the massive amounts we ingest due to the chemicals and manipulations done. I really hope people think about what you're saying and alter their diets to include whole food carbohydrates. Thank you both for all you do 😊
They're really not designed to eat the seeds of grass which is grains. a handful of berries is normal or occasional fruit obviously vegetables and tubers/ roots. But I'm still of the opinion that grains and legumes are not for humans unless we soak them or use pressure cooker. Also most bread products is a processed food.
Our digestive tract is too short to be an Omnivore
Paul Saladinno is not saying "carbs are OK". He's saying that carbs from fruits and honey is ok (what was available to our ancestors before agriculture). Every other source of carbs is harmful to the human.
If you have an opportunity to wear a continuous glucose monitor I highly recommend it. I'm not diabetic by the way. You might be surprised what some food and drinks will do to your blood sugar. All I can say is avoid sugar free drinks because so far those have been my biggest sugar spike of anything! Bread is a big spike! Fruit gives you a little sugar bump but quickly comes back to baseline, baked potatoes gives you a long sugar bump but not a spike. When I ate a potato my blood sugar stayed around 120 with some ups and downs all night when I ate one for dinner and I had trouble sleeping. So my suggestion is eat them for lunch if you want to eat them. I tried carnivore and keto but it makes me weak and kills my Libido.
@@MentalDeviant- True. Following this works for me. Mostly vegetables and secondly protein for me though.
Makes sense ~ we all need to change our frequency from time to time 😉😘
Its great that some Carb ( Honey & fruits only) help him in the situation where is body is having the reverse problem from most of us carb addicts.
But it is important to mention that most of us who had too much carb for too long should go on carnivore diet to reverse our pre-diabetic symptoms before easing up on carbs
Most people can eat oats, pasta, fruits and be metabolic super-healthy; What makes people insulin resistance is refined sugar and carbs without any fibers.
OMG! THAAAAAAANK YOOOOOOOOU!!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you, thank you! I am so sick of people demonizing good, healthy whole foods like honey!😫
Eh, honey is a horrible food. It's almost pure sugar with little to no vitamins or minerals.
If you want to eat carbs and sugar is at the bottom then honey would be the 2nd worst. There are hundreds if not thousands of carbs-rich foods that are magnitudes more healthy.
@@xnoreq: I disagree, honey is one of many foods that actually saved my health!☺️
But thank you for your concern!❤️
@@ccelms6581 How can you disagree with nutritional facts other than by denying reality?
How did honey "save your health" and how is that relevant to anything I said? If you're starved of carbs and all you got is honey then it can save your health, but it's still a horrible food.
@@xnoreq: What evidence do you have that honey is a “horrible food”?
@@ccelms6581 I already explained it, but I can give you more details: The average honey is 75% table sugar and about 24.5% water. The remaining 0.5% is mostly protein.
It contains trace amounts of vitamins, there is a bit of vitamin K however: 100g of honey contain about as much as 0.6g of parsley.
It's the same picture with minerals, trace elements and amino acids.
As I said: give a multivitamin tablet a scratch, add less than 75g of sugar, and more than 25g of water and voila, you got something that is much healthier than honey.
This guy is confirmation bias on legs. The basis of a lot of what he says is based on how he feels after eating certain things. No wonder he ends up contradicting himself. Thank fully there are guys out there passing on info from actual credible studies.
"Credible" studies are financed by pharma and big agriculture. Pay attention to tribes that exhibit vitality.
Confirmation bias but he contradicts himself?
@user-cd5kp2qd5l yeah because he feels a certain way about something for a while and then builds a story of justification around that belief without considering taking an objective scientific approach. Then, later on, he'll feel a different way and build a new story of justification around that new belief, constantly trying to prove himself right but never having a balanced view from both sides.
The credible influencers will base the majority of their advice on credible facts and studies. Then, they will look for credible facts that contradict their theory or belief. The scientific process is about testing a theory and trying to see if it holds up, not just picking a side and then trying to prove yourself right. That's tribalistic egotism.
The studies on sugar were already there before, but he chose not to look at them even though he was researching a book because he'd already "picked a side"
@@stuffilike05 Ok I understand now what you mean. He is definitely not scientific in is approach.
Everybody suffers from confirmation bias. Even those who put their faith in "credible studies".
As anyone knows in nutritional advice, you literally have to eat the foods that work for your biochemistry. Nutrition can be dogmatic at times so be kind to yourself as you go through this journey of discovery. We all change, evolve and grow. As such, so will our diets over time. Different work requires different foods. Experiment with other foods to see how they make you feel and never shame anyone for eating a certain way. I gain inspiration from all the influencers and professionals that advocate for any healthy lifestyle.
God bless 🙏❤️
Dr. Ekberg said it best: “What is required to reverse something is very different than what it takes to maintain it.” This is why I said I will try carnivore for a while to get to my goals, but I will be adding some carbs back in and seeing how they act so I know which ones are okay with my system, and I will do so thoughtfully and not bombard myself with them because I know my set point is probably to be insulin resistant since I was in this state for so long. I know I have to be more extreme to reverse the damage I have done, but staying that extreme forever will likely not work when my body is back to functioning as it should.
When you think about it, this applies to anything that may be extreme. Even in medical treatments, if they have to place you under therapeutic hypothermia to reverse something temporarily, doesn’t mean that that should just be something you use all of the time. It serves a purpose temporarily, doesn’t mean it’s for maintenance. For maintenance or prevention of whatever the issue was, you have to look at alternatives.
YES YES YES!! I’m a holistic nutritionist and energy practitioner and work with people on a regular basis, to heal their guts with all their high-level of gut bug overgrowth, food allergy/intolerances, and also MCAS/histamine intolerance, etc. the KEY in all of this is we all need to adhere to a specific diet to HEAL for as long as the gut needs to repair and re-seal. And then start slowly adding back in non starchy, low anti-nutrient veggies and or just fruits and raw honey. I believe as a species we all have species specific diet that we should be eating, but we’ve gotten so off track and so much damage done to our guts that we can’t break down in any of these anti-nutrients in plant foods that would normally I believe be a healthy addition to a carnivore type diet. It can all get very confusing and hard for people that are very sick because there is so much information out there, and so many people like this Doctor Who is experimenting on his own body to learn so he can help others! I’m sure his body needed to be off all of the plant foods in order to heal and he can add some of these fruits and raw honey and and do well. That’s why writing a book can be a tough thing we evolve and change and we’re all learning. In my practice, I was strictly vegan and would promote 100% vegan raw food diet to heal! But I’ve changed that and now understand more and feel like I can help my clients heal on a whole new level w carnivore + type diet. I also use the wonderful art of energy testing all of my clients foods so we can set up a safe non-allergenic diet for them to heal.
@@sue-kh2we Exactly! What’s more, even when trying to reverse something, what works for one person to reverse conditions won’t work for another. I have been trying carnivore thinking I needed something extreme for faster results, but my blood pressure went through the roof and I have felt absolutely horrible in ways I have never felt before. When I did pure keto last year, not only was I losing weight and having better blood work, but I felt good. Why would I continue to adhere to a diet that makes me feel horrible when I can do it a different way and feel good while getting the same results and still resetting my microbiome? I cannot walk around with ridiculously high blood pressure and “push through it” because this diet seems to work for others. I will get back to baseline (or close enough to it) in another way, and that should be embraced by people rather than clinging so hard to a “one size fits all” journey back to health. There isn’t one.
I thought Saladino sold out. I now think he’s just a nut.
How does adding fruit & honey to your diet and finding you feel better make you a nut
he took the information from frank tufano@@RinaValentina
@@RinaValentina he's frenzied.. 🙄😱
Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don’t. . .
@@DebbieTDP Talking fast when you are passionate about a subject is not frenzied, I’m the same way sometimes when talking about things I’m passionate about especially in a short window to speak in and you need to cram in as much info as possible 😃
One thing for sure, he’s not eating 300g of carbs from pizza, fried chicken, and cakes. 😂 Wording in the video is borderline clickbait but still good information shared.
You just listed 3 high fat foods...
@@Manskeeeee the same foods are also high in processed junk food carbs ☠️
exactly. He is speaking about wholefoods as carbs. Geez.
Mmmm pizza, fried chicken and cake
The reference to tribal people always amuses me. "They find a bee hive and go nuts gorging themselves eating the honey." Much like going to Walmart and going nuts eating Twinkies. Either way is likely ok if you only do it once a year. He lists the tribe's 5 favorite foods as if nomadic tribes have access to Walmart and they only choose the tubers, meat and berries. We have a problem with access, and the way we were raised and dietary guidelines by the government was conducive to producing eating disorders (addiction to carbs) so at this point carb abstinence is the only choice for many of us.
Wrote a whole book on what you thought was right ! But now your new book is definitely the right book.
I love everyone. I admire and respect these two young men.
I ended up returning to carbs to after having a similar experience as Paul. And happened to find Ray Peat and haven't looked back since. That was 2020.
Had you just been doing keto before or carnivore… are you animal based now with fruit & honey are are you also doing say, potatoes or rice as well…
@@RinaValentina I experimented with both, as well as veganism, ketorvore, blood type diet and many others. I came to realize most people just demonize foods and the vast majority of problems are simply because of added ingredients as well as lack of vitamins and minerals.. not macronutrients.
@@elliotthelms4206 Yeah, it can definitely get confusing with what is the best way to eat, though I do know they are trying to demonize real meat & replace it with fake garbage filled with inflammatory seed oils which is also in a lot of vegan crap lol… and also there’s a war on raw milk which makes me support it even more now… I think the first step is definitely to avoid processed foods and if you do get them to learn how to read the ingredients labels and avoid seed oils #1, even before refined sugar… then there’s all the other garbage ingredients they add that we must look out for…. and to also try to eat organic as much as you can too…
Oh, how was the blood type diet?
Planys are trying to kill you.
What is really bad for health is stress caused by trying to make sense of all the diet experts who say completely different things❤
This was super informative. It's nice knowing I don't need to feel guilty for enjoying watermelon or berries as part of my diet.
Fresh, Local, Seasonal may be all best factors.
Mainstream medicine doctor 🙄Any refunds on the first book?
Let’s all just admit that there’s a lot we don’t understand about human nutrition (so much more to learn, so much so, it’s going to take advanced AI to process it all). I’m doing carnivore for two months and have muscle cramp issues even though I’ve been taking Hammer Nutrition electrolytes a few times a day. I also recognized a lowering of libido. I don’t want to throw out the baby with the bath water. I’ve experienced lots of benefits being carnivore, but I think some carbs may be needed for optimal health? The cramping is an issue particularly if supplementing with electrolytes isn’t resolving the cramping complaints.. If Paul is right about carb intake being needed for the kidneys to hold on to these minerals, then what other unresolved issues might there be? Let’s keep an open mind while we get the kinks worked out.
I agree with that we know nothing about our human body. I am having a very good feeling on carnivore (day 39), also having cramps. But had my test done, blood and urine, and I am having enough minerals in my body. So the theory with minerals and crumps is not valid for sure. I am about to find out what is happening in muscles as I have only cramps in feet's and muscles below my knees. I am getting sometimes information about restructuring density in my muscles there. We do have fat in muscles too, same like animals. The best is to stay open minded and reflect, cooperate with our own body.
Best response yet.
I really respect this man
I viewed this post once before, and after seeing a large number of pro- 100% Carnivore videos, I decided to view it again. It now makes a load of sense to me, and I am glad that I viewed it a second time before I undertook a 100% Carnivore experience. Fortunately, for me, I have reduced my weight by 80 lbs with a predominantly low carb diet, and maintained it for over a year at about 10 lbs lower than my original target weight. Now I am planning to ramp up my carnivore percentage, and I find Paul’s reasoning much more pertinent to my situation. I really don’t think that the human capacity to handle carbohydrates should be totally ignored, unless the dietary carbs are the root cause of inflammatory disease. (Processed foods and seed oils are still out of the question, however.)
I'm a diabetic (type 2). I'm not even over weight. And switching to carnivore has helped me massively. The energy spikes were terrible. My energy would drop and my mind would go to shit and I couldn't focus on anything. If I was driving and my energy dropped I would have to pull over and always needed chocolate bar in the car. I plan to add things back in at some point. But I feel great right now and being close to suicidal with how I was feeling on carbs.
That's refined carbs not complex . You were eating refined carbs white bread , candy , pop , doughnuts cakes that's what causes sugar spikes , low energy mood swings , not whole grains , fruit/ veg . Do you understand ? Carnivore is bad you will end up with gout arthritis , kidney problems . The body's main source of fuel is carbs google it .
Paul is 100% right. IF U Are a healthy person. Fruit and Honey are great for you. Unfortunately majority of people are not in that boat. Love these interviews with other awesome people! Thank you!
define healthy tho
Fruits are great to load you with the oxalates .
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@@ryanray6215because you're not healthy and you have some health issues like most people.
@@ryanray6215 Then feel free to go back to the land of muscle cramps, heart palpitations and sleep issues
I like his honestly much respect❤
So were should I be getting my carbs from?
Tried keto for years and would always "cheat" after a few months of great progress. Not sustainable for me. Lower carb paleo (allowing fruits and honey) allowed me to lose 50 lbs and keep it off for three years now! So sustainable, I just eat real food. No grains, gluten, dairy, refined sugar. Insulin resistance is gone. Sweet potatoes and bananas are fine for me, I just don't have them every day.
I think keto is so great because it forces you to refuse all those processed sugars that people are sooo used to. During keto I’d even eat a bit of strawberries with honey in no sugar Greek yogurt. I made sure to only do it before a goood workout though
Well, if you cheat that says something about you, not the diet.
@@keepernod2888They said “not sustainable for me” RELAX. 😁
Keto is good, along with intermittent fasting, for weight loss and reversing type II diabetes. Maybe because you deprive your body of the very excessive, refined carbs and sugar that led to weight gain, insulin resistance and adult onset diabetes in the first place.
But I cannot see it as sustainable in the long run, as there seems to be something unhealthy about consuming such low quantities of carbohydrates. Your body needs them for energy.
@@RinaValentina That's what I said, it's "You" problem and not a diet problem.
I think being extreme in either direction is not a good idea except maybe temporarily when out of balance. For example, having to drink salt water should tell you something is off.
Salt water isnt bad after workouts or a hot activity. It restores electrolytes and minerals
@@sycofya1677 I agree. Use it when needed. My ex, for example worked outside in Palm Springs. If he didn’t have electrolytes in such extreme heat, he would faint. At the time I thought all excess salt was harmful. I was wrong! In that excess heat he needed it! Real salt, of course.
There's nothing extreme about eating a species appropriate diet. Do you call Pandas extreme for only eating eucalyptus? Or a Lion extreme for only eating meat?
The funny thing about all the diet shows in the world, and science backed studies, and everything at the end of the day it comes down to three things
1: What diverse microbiome you have (everyone is different) Find the right fiber for your microbiome to eat and you will get benefits.
2 Your age plays a huge role with diet, I guess the older you get the more protein yet less sugar you should have.
3: It's all about balance whilst keeping sugars low and adequate protein, whilst finding the right fiber from vegetables, and fruits that's all it is (What to note not the juice of the fruit, the pulp fiber mainly) and with a balanced diet of healthy foods, that's all you need at the end of the day, not nit picking one way carnivore or one way carbs, or too much meat or too much of everything.
Great extract of an interview. I respect people who can admit ilthey were wrong. The tribes he quotes love honey, because, besides it obviously being delicious, it's a delicacy they rarely have. The same applies to meet and berries. Roots are their staple food.
I like Paul Saldino but I think there’s some flaw in his logic. He talks about these natives eating honey. It’s always has honey is good and now he eats honey all day every day or every day. Yes they eat honey and they eat a lot of it once in a while. He’s also somebody who’s incredibly physically active, he serves a couple hours every day. I don’t know if everybody’s understanding about the level of physical intensity that surfing is. Bodybuilders work out a lot but many many people in great physical condition, marathon runners, etc. go surfing and get wiped out in 15 or 20 minutes to the point where they go back to the beach and have to rest so his level of physical intensity every day is very high which means he can burn way more of those carbs. That’s great if you can do it but 300 carbs a day for 95% of the people in the planet is going to over trigger your insulin and cause insulin resistance eventually. Just because something is good for you doesn’t mean we should eat it a lot of the time to make it part of her regular diet. Anthropologically I think eating things seasonally is good if you’ve got, some fruit trees on your property when that fruit is blooming have Addit, but don’t can a bunch of apples and peaches and pears and crack open a jar every day.
People in those cultures he’s talking about. I have to really work to get their food and they don’t have tons of it. Those people don’t find a beehive every single day and eat a huge amount of honey. They do it once in a while, and they eat their fruits and vegetables, seasonally , and that’s why they don’t have the same problems as the rest of society. We have 24 seven access to food every day of the year, and there are benefits to foods even grains, if eaten in moderation, prepared the correct way, and the right types of grains that are heirloom And natural. But when we just go to the store and buy these things and make a seven course meal or a big sandwich with six different things on it, we’re just doing it excessively and too frequently and not giving our bodies a chance to heal and recover
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This is the best take. 💯
What I like about Paul is that he is open minded enough to change his opinion. In a world where the health/medicine “industry” is incredibly narrow minded and dogmatic, it’s very refreshing to have someone test his own shit on himself and change his mind on stuff. Good work
But keep in mind, science is never completed, he may change again.
LOL Open minded? He is changing to keep his CZcams and social media accounts from being shadow ban. The new CZcams guidelines state if the CDC or WHO don’t promote a lifestyle. It will be censored and buried in the algorithm. Paul is a shill for big pharma and is promoting fear and misinformation to save his financial behind. No respect for the guy.
@@rubykennedymedia Yeah...can't stand the guy! Won't watch any more videos with him or Thomas DeLauer in them. Freaks...what's with the working out obsessions? Gross!!!
@@francostacy7675 As soon as he tires of honey, he'll come up with some other "new" information that "allows" him to eat some other garbage! Fraud!
@@babsphillips8583 Humans are meant to work out and be lean or jacked. Hunters or gatherers are equally hard work. Even farming the old-fashioned way gave you old man strength.
So yeah better work out no matter what diet are you on.
It’s one thing to change his mind and create a different approach or variation to carnivore. It’s another thing to make his personal experience a general prescription.
This is part of the process to find what one needs. Often one thing is needed to get back to healthy and then changes may then need to happen. How one eats can fluctuate based on health, activity and other factors. One of the dangers with people like being linked to "A" diet is when one adjusts - not say change as this is about adjusting - they get singled out as having been wrong. Where Paul may have been "wrong" would maybe in how presented Carnivore as somewhat dogmatic. Change is a good thing if required by ones life.
If you're not confused, you're not paying attention.
Completely lol both these guys talk in circles
Keto or low carb is great for fixing years of eating crap and becoming insulin resistant, but should be stopped when you become metabolically healthy. After that, just eat real food and you will maintain weight and be healthy.
When I ate an extremely low carbohydrate diet. I had weakness muscle cramps at 11 I don't like to lay issues. I don't eat a lot of carbohydrates. And I get quality protein but if I want it and my body feels it needs it. I go for it.
I did carnivore for 80 days. Lost 13 lbs, got rid of my love handles, slept great, arthritis went aways in my knees.
Then on day 81, I could not poop. Like it was at the door knocking, but unwilling to come out. Freaked me out so badly that then and there I decided it was time for oatmeal. (And I was eating a ton of fat previously, so that wasn't the problem. I just think that some people's body cannot keep up the carnivore diet forever.)
I ate a cup of oatmeal, and had a bowel movement 3 hours later than I could hardly make it to the can in time!
Since then (1 week) I've been eating 2 or 3 cups of oatmeal a day, along with my continued 2 lbs. of high fat burger.
Bowel movements have been fantastic, getting a great pump in the gym, strength has gone up, gained 5 lbs. back, but not in the waist.
Kudo's to ya'll if you can keep going on the carnivore diet, but if you get the bowel problems and extra fat does not do the trick, I advise at least some oatmeal.
This is very interesting thank you for sharing. I try to stick to Keto and fasting but recent weeks I have been treating myself to eating a couple of pieces of fresh whole fruit at weekends. A lady puts her Bramley apples from her own orchard out in front of her house on a table free to help ourselves. This is so unprocessed and delicious. the best things in life are free...
The whole fruits taste unprocessed and natural and balanced. It's not every day. I think the message I am learning especially about what you were saying about honey is to eat natures carbs and a clean non processed diet is the most balanced. I love fish but am increasingly concerned about eating it given the news on the pollution in our river and surrounding waters and yet Britain is an island! i no longer eat farmed salmon or any shellfish. I do feel better when i eat unprocessed whole foods including fruit or honey that comes straight from Mother Nature. It's how our grandparents ate and how many of them were fussy eaters or overweight or unfit? We just need to include the quality of our growing environment and stop building homes on fertile soil for growing our own food. We could be so much healthier than we are as a nation. Our food quality has rapidly declined in the last 50 years.
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I believe that if we eat in season that the food is suited to our needs. In our house we start the summer with loquats, follow with cherries, hang out for the apples and finish the year with oranges. So there are weeks without fruit while we wait for it to ripen but them we go mad for the fruit the birds haven't got.
@@amandajane8227 I agree wholeheartedly. Mass production of food has made it too easy to eat out of season but as you say if we eat in season the food is suited to our needs. Your fruits sound lovely. I am not familiar with loquats. I am finding it hard to find British Coxs apples. A lot of our apples are imported from New Zealand. I have no idea why as a planet we don't grow produce locally locally.
I used to love eating coxes when I lived in the UK. Here in Australia there is very little choice in apples. Even our tree only has the 3 basic apples grafted onto it. Loquats are a more Mediterranean fruit a bit like apricots.@@sunkat76
Keto allows for some carbohydrates. Vitamin C can be found in molluks also though. Modern fruits, processed or not, are not built like their wild cousins. They are bred for human consumption.
Personally I’m doing keto. However, I do have a cheat day once every two weeks. I will eat my pasta for example and enjoy some sweets with my kids.
Low carb diets are great for healing metabolically damaged people who were damaged by excessive carb consumption, not athletes. The only way you can manage a low carb diet as a lean, active person long term is immense amounts of protein and fat that is frankly uncomfortable for most people. Our paleolithic ancestors supposedly ate megafauna rich in fatty acids and protein, with even more fat than modern cows, supplemented by some plant stuffs. And when we did find carbs, we binged. And in this prehistoric landscape, a lot of the nutrients ketogenic and carnivore diets are deficient in were more readily abundant. The soil had more minerals in it, and so did the animals that ate plants absorbed from it. Rivers and creeks were far safer to drink from and contained plenty of these minerals as well.
My favorite part of this video is the 8 ad breaks for the 9 minutes of content.
A few years from now, he will change his mind again.
No different than what the FDA has done with its food chart since the 70s.
Good
Better than not changing your mind in the face of evidence
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 I have seen the evidsnce in my body that CARBS and FRUCTOSE caused me Allergies since childhood. Just a few week going Carnivore only, ALL my allergies gone! Now to celebrate my 2nd year by April.
Now, I dont care what evidence other people. What I care is what happened to me.
@@thomassaddul I doubt his views are specific to your body. Generally literature will try to address a specific population, not an individual.
Saladino vs
Glucose Goddess
debate when? 😁
I'm glad he has healed his skin and is doing what he feels is right for his body. We are all carrying out an experiment of N=1. I wonder what this would be like for really broken people? I'll be 62 this year and have been eating a ketogenic diet for five years. I moved towards seasonal and local for my food (UK), so I tend to be heavily animal based during the winter to the point of a couple of months totally carnivore, then over the summer eating cucumbers and berries, maybe the ocassional piece of mango. I do a little resistance training, but not much. I do not feel I will ever beable to go back to a high carb diet, 300g of carbs per day. But what I do works for me and I can change it if I want to. Lucky is the person who is able to make a lifestyle change and stick with it forever and not have to change as their bodies change.
He says, "we should not fear glucose spikes in a metabolically healthy individuals". The problem is over 80% of the United States is NOT metabolically healthy.
Being unafraid to change your mind is power!
Also being honest and scrap your book you talk against now from being sold. 🤌🏻🤭
I wanted Keto and Carnivore to be the answer for me. The two diets do work for lowering blood pressure and reversing inflammation. However these diets haven't worked for building muscle and can crash your Libido a bit. So for me I can use those concepts as a tool but not as a lifestyle but that's just me.
One day since I posted my comment and probably my 5th day of carbs and the inflammation is back in my neck from an injury. Carnivore got rid of that pain but even with clean carbs the pain is back. I suffered for 7 years but have been pain free for the last 6 months thanks to carnivore. I'm going to have to go back to strict carnivore. This is a diet I will have to follow therest of my life because I can't handle that pain, it's that bad! But with carnivore it will be gone again!
@@GoneCarnivoreif you start to eat carbs, you have to eat way less fat and less protein, otherwise you won't feel better.
About libido and muscle growth its about testosterone mostly. You can sustain keto diet and raise your testosterone by different ways, mostly from your psyche. So, then you will have all that put together and you can enjoy your healthy diet + be a man!
Everybody is different. Do what works for you.
Genetics, lifestyle, active non active, runner, bodybuilder, whatever.
You do what works for you and what works for you may or may not work for somebody else.