Romansh vs Romanian vs Italian vs French | Can they understand each other?
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- The Romansh language is one of four national languages of Switzerland, among German, Italian and French. In this video we test mutual intelligibility of Romansh and other Romance languages. Romansh is sometimes grouped by linguists with Ladin and Friulian as the Rhaeto-Romance languages, though this is disputed. What's your impression? How much were you able to understand?
The dialect that Leander represents is Sursilvan. It's s a group of dialects of the Romansh language spoken in the Swiss district of Surselva. It is the most widely spoken variety of Romansh. The most closely related variety is Sutsilvan, which is spoken in the area located to the east of the district.
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Romansh vs Romanian vs Italian vs French | Can they understand each other?
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I live in Argentina, and Speak Spanish. Also fluent French, Italian and Portuguese. In written form I understand Catalan maybe two thirds, when spoken maybe one.half. Gallego on the other hand is almost identical to Portuguese, I easily understand most of it.
in spanish I understood the insight of every word very useful to see our romance language family
I just commented before I read your question. My comment was as follows: _"My mother tongues are Spanish and Catalan and I guessed them all! I'm so proud! 😁"_
As a catalan speaker I can understand some words but it's very different from my language.
This language sound like a roman legionaire got lost in the german woods for 30 years
That's an interesting origin story for a language!
@@Ecolinguist and after he got crazy...
xD
I agree.
Though there is heavy German influence on Rumantsch, the inhabitants of the area spoke Rhaetic (now extinct) and Celtic languages, when the Romans came in. The Germanic tribes and Romans gradually squeezed out the Celtic languages which once dominated France and central Europe, which are now only spoken in the UK, Ireland, and part of France.l
Roman family reunion 1500 years after the fall of the empire be like:
More like a great reunion...
Beat me to it
well they are all celts or germanic invaded by the romans haha
@@DZRESPECT yeah and the romans you mean probably are romanized etruscans and italics. there was no roman people. being roman was the same as being american today. the only real romans probably were the early patricians. the rest were all romanized foreigners
@@wolfruhn byzantine empire doesn't count, those languages aren't eastern
Romanian: "I am the hardest romance language"
Romansh: "I'm gonna end this man's whole career"
Yeah that was a rough one. Romanian is not so bad. Once you get used to the UL at the end of the words and the Slavic vowels. The only one in the romance language series from Norbert that comes close in difficulty for me is Neapolitan.
or * ''woman's career''....
Is it really difficult to learn it?
@@philomelodia There are other Italian regional languages that are quite close to Neapolitan, like Sicilian for instance.
Chau, native Romansch speaker here. There are 5 diffrent Romansch dialects. The dude in the video talks the ugliest Rumantsch xd 😂🇨🇭
Romansch-speaker: This animal is often associated with Transylvania
French and Italian: Ah, OK!
Romanian: *Unimpressed.*
Hi! Yes, because we don't really agree with this myth...
Let's say that it appeared against our will. 🙂
@@RaduB. Oh, I don’t blame you. I wouldn’t want my country associated with a blood-sucking vampire either…then again, after the last four years, it’s hard for people not to…
@@RaduB. I don’t have anything against it. And I think most Romanians don’t mind it either. We had a lot of popular myths about strigoi before Dracula anyway
@@BlueSwampyCraft
A "strigoi" is indeed a vampire but Dracula is another name for Vlad Țepeș, which definitely was not a vampire.
Bram Stoker's name choice for his character really is unfortunate.
@@RaduB. I’m Romanian don’t need to explain. It’s a LEGENG, it was inspired by Vlad for obvious reason - the blood theme. I don’t see anything wrong with that. If anything foreigners became more interested in the region and in Vlad himself as a historical figure. And they discovered on this occasion the true beauty and culture of Transylvania.
As a Romanian the Romansh language is much more harder than i tought 😳
The other Latin languages seem easier now 😅
It's mostly because you are used to the others. Also, the guy's dialect appeared to be a bit non-standard to my ear (i.e., it was a dialect from one of their valleys, not the standardized Rumantsch Grischun). I was able to understand more than 50% of what was said on Rumantsch radio while on my trip to Switzerland as a Romanian native speaker with a good knowledge of Italian and Spanish.
Sunt de acord și eu. Nu am înțeles absolut nimic. :))
da, roman !
You are right. I lived in Moldova many years, and i don't understand 90% of Romansh in this video :)
Yeah the same for me too, and i could say i have basic knowledge of French and Italian ( more Italian). I perceived it more like a german language than the Latin language.
omg i've never heard spoken romansh before
Same
Now you have!
@@Ecolinguist also not as hard as i thought really
@Dovyeon maybe being an italian native speaker, having studied latin and knowing some german? i didn't understand a lot but still like 40%
@Dovyeon i don't speak a celtic language so i doubt it, also i probably would have understood a lot less without reading
Romansh sounds like an italian after having lived for 20 years in Germany tries to speak french
It kind of reminds me of Catalan with some German words thrown in there pronounced in a Swiss Accent.
While his drunk.
😀😀😀
To me it sounds like a mix of french and portuguese with a german accent
As a romanian speaker I barely understood a few words. It sounds like a mix of latin and german and the accent sounds german.
As a German, I'd say the accent sounds Swiss-German, and unmistakably so.
I think it is a mix of german and another language i wouldn't say Latin though. Since it was spoken in Switzerland you expect some accent influences and maybe some vocabulary influence too. I've seen that he used "Genau" which means "Exactly" in both Romansch and German
Marcus do you think a photo of Hitler as your avatar is appropriate?
@@Oluinneachain I'm not sure if you're sarcastic or not :)) But I think it s his face lol
@Marius Imholz also in many italian dialects asparagus can be called 'sparagi which is similar to the romansch
As a Swiss who speaks German, Italian and French, I still couldn't understand most of it.
These three languages seem closest to Romansh yet they only help a bit with this one.
Spanish, english and french and still nothing.
lura es ti betg in bun Svizer. Jeu sun Franzos e discur l'unica lingua specifica alla Svizra. Jeu discur anc ils trais auters idioms dalla Svizra.
sie verstönd sich ja amig underenand nöd mal ;)
Portuguese, french and english, still couldn't understand much too
More romanian please! 🇷🇴💕
Yeah 🇷🇴🇲🇩💕💞💓💗
Romansh vs Romanian vs Italian vs French | Can they understand each other?
NO.
First of all , the apellation Romanian is wrong ! Our language is called valahica . We are valahi . Romania and romanian language is a fraud invented by Vatican .
Nick Cohen 😂 😂 😂. Also, Romanian is an alien language that comes from Mars. 😂
As a Romanian I understand Italian , but my guess is the italians cannot understand romanians
@@neroma I'm Italian. I find spoken Romanian hard but with the subtitles, I understood most of it.
@@neroma true, but I think Romanians are probably exposed to more Italian language (e.g. via the TV) than vice versa, so this might not be intrinsic to the languages' unequal mutual intelligibility.
As a French guy it's the first time in this series of video I was lost... All latin languages have their difficulties but this one killed me
J'suis d'accord avec toi, je n'ai rien compris. C'est trop allemand pour moi haha
Very true. I can get the idea in Italian, Catalan and Occitan, but Romansch was pretty much incomprehensible to me. I've been told it is closest to Latin and when they have brought the Latin speaker, I found him most difficult to understand in the group. I think the Latin guy would understand Romansch the best.
@@poseidonoceanstorm7396 le pire c'est que j'ai des notions d'allemand mais c'est la première fois que j'écoute une langue qui a des influences et latines et germaniques c'est très bizarre ça me donne l'impression qu'il parle très vite dans 2 langues différentes et que mon cerveau doit faire le lien
@@kaderbueno6823 ouai je crois qu'il est à cheval entre les deux. Mais je crois que c'est l'influence du suisse allemand je crois
@@jaredwilliams6853 interesting thanks def got to check that out
As a portuguese native speaker I could understand;
40% Romansh
50% Romanian
70% Italian
40% French
respect
Para de mentir cara kkkkkkkk
O unico que posso concordar contigo é o Italiano, de resto são poucas palavras compreendida quando eles falam, mas a legenda deixa um pouco mais tranquilo para entender!!! po
Entender ou não um idioma é algo pessoal. Não tem que concordar comigo. Eu costumo consumir muito conteúdo de poliglotas. Brasileiro no geral não tem esse interesse por idiomas estrangeiros visto que somente 5% da nossa população entende o inglês que é um dos idiomas mais populares do mundo.
Romanian joke for the Portuguese:
Cu carne de vaca nu se moare de foame.
I am sure that Portuguese speakers or Galician speakers will understand 100% all the words.
As a French speaker it was fascinating to hear, most difficult Latin language ever... When the Romanian girl was starting to talk I was thinking "finally someone I understand in some extent" 😂 hopefully I am fluent in German, it helped me with many small words (aber, genau, also, schon...), but it wasn't sufficient to grasp the meaning of what he was saying.
@VFM #7634 Definitely. But the meaning of the word has changed quite a bit between these languages. I immediately recognized the cognate as well, but I couldn't make a sense out of it.
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i think you meant ‘luckily, i am fluent in german,’ the word hopefully is used in situations that haven’t happened yet!
I don't know about everybody else, but Romansh is the hardest romance language for me to understand on this channel so far. I've never heard it spoken before and it actually helped not reading the script but my knowledge of italian (and a little French) meant I only understood the context of each sentence. Thanks to everyone who made this video possible, it was fascinating!
I have occasionally heard Romansh on Swiss radio, where I found it quite easy to understand. But there it came with a much stronger Swiss German accent, so presumably it wasn't as pure. And I must agree, as a native speaker of German with a reasonably good passive command of French, Italian and Spanish, I find this to be at least as hard to understand as Portuguese. Even with the written text it's probably harder for me than Catalan without it (which is also quite tough).
Written Romansh is more or less readable for romance language speakers. There are 5 (or 7. Even more!) idioms of Romansh, each one with its written standard, and a koine language called Romauntsch Grischun. The later one anybody can see on Swiss franc banknotes and federal official documents. RG is artificial and nobody has it as mother language.
@@robjj4769 I have never heard of that claim, can't find any evidence for it anywhere, and severely doubt it given that (to my knowledge) no Slavic languages are or were spoken near to the region in question. Are you mixing up Romansh with Romanian? These are completely different languages. The only thing they have in common is that they are both Romance languages and have similar names deriving from that.
I agree! As a brazilian who also speaks fluent spanish (having lived 9 years in Argentina), and a little bit of french, this was by far the most difficult romance language to unterstand, from those we saw on this channel. Even Sardinian or Neapolitan were a lot easier (I found Occitanian quite easy once I understood some weird pronounciaton differences).
I wonder where the difficulty comes from. Maybe the German influence? Even as a native German speaker I only noticed the very German use of "also", which I actually found irritating rather than helpful, coming so unexpected in a Romance language. Or could there be a lot of Rhaetian traces left? We know that this language was spoken in the region before it was Romanized. Rhaetian is hypothesized to be related to Etruscan.
As a native Italian and French speaker (and also some basic German), that was still really hard. I guessed all the words correctly, but I think it was only because I could see what he was saying written on the screen.
As a portuguese speaker, it was harder than romanian
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I'm a portuguese speaker and I speak french as well. I was totally lost when the guy was speaking. Romanian looks easy compared to romansh lol
I never thought that romanian would help me to understand another Latin language :D amazing language, sounds so ancient! i was lost so many times!
Latin is a Romanian language.
I've never heard Romansch before, it sounds like a German trying to speak Romanian 😅
Well, there are 5 different dialects. His Rumansch is nearer to German than the Romansch I speak. He speaks Sursilvan and the Rumantsch I speak is nearer to Italian. So I speak Rumantsch Vallader
@Irina Popa I think he means in term of how the language sounds - I speak French and German, and some of the Romansch words do sound quite Germanic
I speak German and Romanian and i still didn't understand anything :))
It's reaaaally strange to Swiss German speakers, because phonetically it's very much like the Swiss German dialect of the canton of Graubünden, but you just dont understand a word…
@@arasev_hd1524 I think the most similar language is Lombardian, indeed i come from Lombardy, and I gotta say I understood him more because I understand Lombardian than anything else
Extremely tough, but extremely fun too! Romanian is the next language on the list after seeing this :)
By far this is the hardest romance language to understand for me. I'm a native speaker of spanish.
más que rumano
@@stephanobarbosa5805 Sí, mucho mas complicado que el Rumano, definitivamente.
@@vnietov hablo inglés (como idioma segundo/primero? No sé. Yo hablo 4 idiomas en totales [no sé exactamente como lo dice en español pero yo soy un Malasio. Todo el mundo acá aprende malayo, inglés y su lingua materna cuando ellos se aproxima 4 años]) y la francés es más fácil para entender. I’d say that it’s easier than Spanish, even. “Marron” -> “maroon” animal->animal etcétera.
I agree!
@@Pakiu1306 Are malay and indonesian considered the same language?
Madly hard, and I'm a lombard native speaker. He reminds me of a german trying to speaking lombard and mixmatching random words from french
So fascinating. My grandfather, who died before I was born, spoke Romansh. I’ve never heard it before and enjoyed hearing this episode. Thank you.
I thought the hardest latin language to understand was Romanian, I was wrong
Could you do a video in this same format with Romanian, Aromanian, Istro-Romanian and Megleno-romanian? It would be interesting to see how different such languages are compared to one another. It might be difficult to find speakers of the latter two since less than 5500 people speak them combined.
I hope you consider my idea. As always great video.
Where do you find meglenites and especially Istrian vlachs nowadays? I think they might even be extinct.
An Aromanian though, that would be awesome. Farsherot.
@@empyrionin there are plenty of megleno-romanians living in macedonia. as for istrians, yeah, they are probably less than 100.
So happy this has come out. As a Romand Swiss (francophone/western Swiss) I'm glad the Romansh speakers have been able to keep their language alive. I wish it were the same for us with arpitan/francoprovençal, which is spoken in Switzerland by very few people mainly in the Valais
suisse romande?? 70 80 90... septante huitante nonante...
@@stephanobarbosa5805 Arpitan/Francoprovencal would be a great one to do in this series, I agree.
@@stephanobarbosa5805 yes, that's how we count
(well my canton uses quatre-vingt but whatever)
octante for eighty is also used but rarely
it is more widely spoken in the Aosta Valley ( Val d'Oûta in Arpitan)
@@darkkestrel1 your canton uses 4x20?? very sad!! ... pardon me... but i hate 60+10, 4x20, 4x20+10....
¡Me perdí! Ni siquiera con subtítulos lograba entender; me ayudaron los otros participantes. ¡Geniales!
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Me ha pasado igual
Murciélago y grava son cognados. Las demás no. Nada, ni cerca.
In romanian, two words came out for eagle: *vultur* and *acvilă* .
The cognates of *vultur* are:
_Vulture_ (english), _vautour_ (french), _avvoltoio_ (italian)
The cognates of *acvilă* are:
_Eagle_ (english), _aigle_ (french), _aquila_ (italian), .... _evla_ (romansh)
In romanian, *vultur* may be used either to refer to a _vulture_ or to an _eagle_
In romanian, *acvilă* is used to refer unambigously to an _eagle_ .
I don't speak at all romansh, but when the romanian girl came with _vultur_ , the romasch speaker seems to worry about the alimentation of the bird: dead ( _vulture_ ) or live prey ( _eagle_ ). I don't know to which extend the word is used, but according to some dictionnaries, _elva_ may also be used for _eagle_ in romansh.
The word *acvilă* doesn't really belong here as it's a loan from Italian (if not from Latin). The inherited word exists as *aceră/aciră,* which seems to normally mean "hawk", and "eagle" only dialectally.
As far as I know, "acvila" is a specific type of eagle: the golden eagle, while "vultur" is used to mean any generic eagle or vulture.
The Spanish cognates are, respectively, _buitre_ and _águila._
Vulturul este numele comun dat mai multor păsări răpitoare diurne, mari, din familia accipitridae, ordinul falconiformes, cu ciocul lung, ascuțit și coroiat, cu aripi lungi și cu picioare puternice, cu gheare tari, care se hrănesc cu pradă vie și, uneori, cu stârvuri. În această categorie se pot aminti:
genul Pithecophaga cu specia.
Pithecophaga jeffery
genul Aquila
cu 12 specii (ex. Aquila chrysaetos)
genul Spizastur
genul Ichthyophaga
genul Hieraaetus
cu 6 specii
genul Spizaetus
genul Oroaetus
genul Polemaetus
cu 1 specie
genul Stephanoaetus
cu 1 specie
genul Ictinaetus
genul Harpyopsis
genul Lophaetus
genul Haliaeetus
genul Morphnus
Vulturul pescar (Circaetus gallicus)
face parte din familia Pandionidae
Just running the Romansch word, the closest phonological word I find is the Apache word "ch'ishoogi" and Navajo "Jeeshoo". Doesn't sound like it comes from Celtic as nothing from the Celtic languages have anything close.
For me I think the romansch pronunciation was the hardest to understand more than the words themselves.
P.s I speak Romanian, Italian, french, Portuguese and Spanish as for the romance languages
Ba esti nebun
Soy de España y escuchar Leandre saying « BIEN » made me feel good haha
Basta y casas también jajaja
As a French native (who speaks Spanish and a bit of Italian), I’m surprised that I could understand Casiana (the Romanian girl) at about 90 % without listening again and again what she said. I used to understand around 25-40 % of Romanian as I never studied it but with the subtitles and the context, I almost understood everything she said.
And I feel like Romansh is a mix of Occitan, Italian and German (kind of), but I am curious to know if the accent is the authentic or if Leander speaks Romansh with a German accent. I would like to know, but anyway that sounds pretty nice.
Very interesting!
I‘d say it‘s the language and not him having an accent. Source- I‘m romansh
It’s authentic
@@richlisola1 OK thanks. 😊
@@thebauci1167 Now I know. Thank you.
I recently learned, by watching Italian futbol games that Italian speakers cannot understand the Portuguese language.
That's interesting, bat is "chauve souris" (bald mouse) in French, "miezmur e miezutsch" (half-mouse and half-bird) in Romansh and "morcego" (blind mouse) in Portuguese ("mor" doesn't really mean "mouse" in modern Portuguese but it does come from the Latin word for mouse that also gave "mur" in Romansh)
You just blew my mind. Murciélago in Spanish, but I didn't know it meant any of those things because in Spanish blind mouse would be "ratón ciego", and neither "mur" is similar to "ratón" nor I had thought of the possibility that "ciélago" came from "ciego". 😂
E tampouco sei porque respondi no teu comentário em inglês.🤦♂️
@@65fhd4d6h5 Eu também só soube agora 😂😂 Com o vídeo perguntei-me de onde viria a palavra "morcego" em português e fui ver a etimologia. "Cego" é mais evidente em português, contudo "mor" também é muito diferente 😅 O mais perto que temos é "murganho" (que é um nome bem formal para "rato doméstico"). "Rato" é a palavra mais comum em português, sem dúvida.
In German, a bat is literally a "feathered mouse".
EDIT: no it's not, as several users have pointed out. "Fluttering mouse", more like.
Indeed, lots of them use the Latin root for mouse, mus (genitive muris) cognate with English mouse and German Maus. Interestingly Italian takes the direct Latin word for bat, vespertilio (from vesper, evening, as that's when they become active), and corrupts it into pipistrello.
Este video logró que el rumano y el francés me resulten fáciles de entender xD.
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Fernando Flores, rumana, vivo en Suiza, hablo frances y italiano ( tambien espanol😉), pero romantsch language is very hard to understand!🙋♀️🙈
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Igualmente amigo 😅
Português: morcego, pedra, águia, violino, aspirador de pó. For me, Romansh was the hardest Latin language to understand so far.
Parece alemão, não é? Até mesmo na pronúncia... O romanche claramente teve bastante influência do alemão suíço.
@@diogorodrigues747 parece o alemão suíço com meia dúzia de palavras latinas hahaha.
@@sportm1lgrau550 pk
Murciélago, piedra o roca, águila, violín y aspiradora en español latinoamericano. Saudações amigo lusófono, muito bonito o idioma português em todas as variedades.
As an English speaker who also speaks French and Italian, I was on a train across Switzerland on my first trip there years ago and when 4 teenagers get on speaking Swiss German. They immediately switched to Romansh so that the other Swiss around them couldn't understand them. I saw everyone sort of look perplexed, and I couldn't understand a word but then quickly realized it was Romansh, which I was eager to hear. It was pretty cool.
Romansh sounds very German.
Romanian sounds beautiful
Romanian sounds so beautiful, soft and stern respectively. Italian is similar but expressive (with lots of hand gestures).
Thank you Romainian Does Sounds Beautiful
@@Cezar4ik Merci.
@@bramantyoprahoro7284 hand gestures aren't part of the language.
@@radiantsun8493 But I saw some Italians with hand gestures in some YT videos.
I speak native French and Occitan and somewhat Italian but I really struggle to understand Romansh when spoken.
It’s a litter easier when I read the text but still, it’s really hard to even get a grasp.
The most fascinating part for me was how every once in a while he’d break out like “genau”, “schon“, “also”, etc.
Yeah, but sadly, that didn't make it any more easy to understand for me (native German speaker) because these words are just fillers and don't actually add any context
As a Romanian, It was sometimes easy to understand, and other times I had no idea what he was talkinga about. Amazing job!
Arranca con un "Bien" tan en castellano que maréa. Las palabras clave se entienden. Es increible que cuanto más difícil es la difícil menos difícil parece la anterior. O sea, el rumano y el francés parecen portugués para un hispanohablante al lado del romansh.
Sin duda el rumano es fácil delante de este
Sisi, a mi me ha sonado a japonés más de la mitad y mira que además de castellano también hablo catalán. Parece ser que está muy influenciado por el alemán
Yo estoy aprendiendo alemán y creo que entendí más el romansh por ese lado que por el propio español, por ejemplo genau es exacto.
La chica rumana te daba todas las claves. Ella entendía primero y lo hacía más fácil... en rumano.
Hey, sorry for interrupting your catalan conversation but i‘ve got a funny storytime: when i went to Barcelona with my family (and we speak rumansh together), my father who is not the best spanish speaker started to order food in rumansh and it worked perfectly! That was the moment we realized that catalan is probably the most resemblant still existing language to rumansh! And switzerland isn‘t even close to Catalunya...
Eu sunt din Romania! Felicitari! Toate limbile latine sunt sensibil apropiate intre ele! Limba romana e mai aproape de italiana!
Norbert, you're doing a great job bringing people (and peoples) together! Hats off!
I'm decent in Spanish and French and know basic Italian and Portuguese. These Romance language ones are usually not too difficult for me to get the basic meaning of, but wow I could barely understand a word from this dude.
@??? i think Spanish, his surname looks like a Spanish one
i will never get enough of this channel this video was so good, thank you, keep it up!!
Romansh sounds like a German trying to speak French, but only knows Spanish and Italian
This is the hardest romance language to understand for me. I am Italian (I studied French) and I couldn’t grasp almost anything 😅 but I refrained from activating the English subtitles 😉
Romanian is way more understandable.
Very interesting video as usual 😉
I think it's because romanian has a more Slavic approach which for me it's easier to understand while romansch has an German approach which I feel it harder to understand
@@sho8556 idk about "slavic" words bro 77% of Romanian is complete Classical Latin , 5% German and 5% hungarian and just 13% is slavic , its weird to hear anytime that slavic and slavic
Italian is the closest language to Latin, followed by Spanish, Romanian, Portuguese, and the most divergent being French. Romanian and Italian are 77% alike. The closest language to Romanian is Italian. The closest to Italian is Spanish. Face sens.
@@fabiandanesti1497 nu știu ce slavona aud ăștia,de zici că români vorbesc ca Moldovenii de peste Prut
@@contecristian686 You are bad informed, Romanian is the closest language to latin.
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As a student of Rumantsch, I am so happy to see this language on your channel, Ecolinguist! Grazia fitg ^__^
This was by far the hardest latin language challenge on this channel, I still managed to get the words correctly because of the others helping but I'm pretty sure if I didn't have Italian, French and Romanian in the conversation I would be lost. Interesting though, a lot of vowels and consonants pronunciation in Romansch sounds very similar to portuguese, and the use of the word "BASTA" caught up my attention because it sounds exactly like some portuguese accents and I think it means the same thing.
Only the romanian girl actually guessed the third word: "tschéss" means "vulture" not "eagle", so the correct terms would be "avvoltoio" in Italian and "vautour" in french ("aquila" and "aigle" mean "eagle", while in romanian "vulture" is used for both "eagle" and "vulture"; acvilă exists but isn't used that often). Finally, the romansch word for "eagle" is "evla". Norbert, if you'll ever see this comment and if you have the possibility to do so, please let the guests know about the misunderstanding.
But he meant a bird of prey eating living animals, not corpses, so "avvoltoio" in Italian would be wrong. There are other terms like falco, gipeto, poiana, gheppio... falco is the more general word together with aquila. I mean, he clearly reacted negatively to vultur, so it's not "vulture". A Romanian-Italian dictionary gives "aquila" for vultur, so again no, there was no misunderstanding.
Love that Lionel is in here. He's always fun to watch 😄 The Romansh language sounds mostly similar to German, with Italian and French sounds here and there. (At least to me, who don't speak any European languages other than English.) At first I thought there should have been Luke here but then having seen the guests struggling to understand Leander, I guess a Latin speaker would fare no better.
Merci beaucoup ! ;-)
It sounded like a romance language w Swiss German intonation, I tried listening to it again from a distance and the singsong and consonants came through the strongest.
@@katarinawikholm5873 Ah, that's interesting. I'm not familiar with Swiss-German. I just heard the German R and automatically thought "German" 😅
Wow, I'm brazilian, I speak portuguese and a bit of french. I first got interested in the romansh language after my brother moved to Switzerland. When I see it written, it really looks like a total mix of all of the other native languages in Switzerland (french, german and italian), but when spoken, it sounds really unique, a bit like german, but to me it doesn't sound as the mix of languages I was expecting it to sound! I usually watch these videos without subtitles and often can understand most romance languages pretty well, even if I'm not that familiar with said language, like italian or romenian for me, but I basically couldn't understand much at all of the romansh language, and even though I KNOW it's similar to other languages I'm a bit familiar, it just sounds SO different from anything I've heard! I had to turn subtitles on for this video lol. Loved the video, as always, by the way!
SO interesting, thank you! And you helped each other very well 😊 greetings from Switzerland.
What a strange language, it's a good mix of Italian and German language, Norbert you are the BEST , I never heard Romansch
One of "Swiss" languages, WOW ;) Does this bring us any closer to the long-waited Germanic languages comparison? :D
A bit closer! yes. ;)
Germanic languages, English included?
@@Ecolinguist I am here for that! Let's see 'Scandinavian dialects' in action (supposed to be intelligible) as well as some West vs North Germanic comparisons if that's feasible for them and the Nor-Den-Swe trio against Icelandic, and the languages Dutch vs Frisian vs Afrikaans, as well as any dialects you can find that are not any of these but are rumored to not be intelligible with them.
@@clotildedecasaantici8065 Ah but English has so much other vocabulary! I don't know many Germanic words. I am watching Bron|Broen and I find cognates everywhere but only cognates and they are jumping out from a soup of unintelligibility.
I hope! Ik hoop! Ich hoffe!
The Italian girl and French guy were kind of translators for others romance language speakers. Even Cassiana was more understandable for me as a Portuguese language speaker.
I am from Portugal and I feel the same thing. Strange, isn't it?!
@@diogorodrigues747o romanche teve muita influência do alemão. Para os italianos é bastante compreensível. Um forte abraço do Brasil!
Portuguese is the most close romance language to romanian.
@@geocazan2218 What? No, it's not...
@@geocazan2218 estão em extremos opostos do contínuo dialetal românico. Sua afirmação é descabida.
What an interesting language! Surprisingly understandable. Thank you for the video! 😊
Such an amazing video! Thanks!!
Thank you very much for this video. I knew Romantsch, but only in internet pappers, this is the fist time I hear how it sounds, it's soooo beautiful! Thank you! Well done, it's a really nice video!
I also noticed some German words in Romansh such as "genau" (exactly) and schon ( already) and Geigia stems probably from "Geige" which is violin.
And schuber from sauber
Also "also" 😃😊
In Romanian we have an old type of violin with horn, used only in Bihor county, that we call “higheghe”, exactly as Romansh, but with a “hi” before it.
Great format!
"french Is the most germanized latin language" romansch: hold my beer
yeah pretty much that xD
Welschgerman is the German transition to romance and Romansch vise versa.
As a German and Spanish speaker I found this extremely fascinating, in particular the sprinkling of Germanic words in Romansch. Although I found the Romansh nearly incomprehensible compared to the other languages, there were enough key words in it for me to eek out the meaning.
Wow as a French speaker the Romansch was very difficult. I could understand the Italian very well, the Romanian as well, and then the Romansch I could get some stuff from the written text but otherwise not so much. It sounds so much like German even Latin words are being said
Among the different dialects of Romansh, the Sursilvan dialect presented here has the most phonetic similarities with German. Especially due to the r sound. Other dialects sound closer to Italian.
Oh wow! I did not expect Romansh to be so difficult. I think I'm quite confident with Latin and I can speak French, Romanian, Italian and Spanish fluently but I still struggle with this one. You've got me into it now.
Super mișto idee!Fiecare vorbește în limba lui dupa ce i se adresează o intrebare într-o altă limbă pe care nu o cunoaște niciunul din cei trei.Fain!!!Bravo!
Bun-venit pe canalul Ecolinguist!
This sounded very obscure, unlike other romance languages I have listened to (as a native french speaker), perhaps for lack of exposure.
His phonology is essentially German. If he rolled his Rs and had a more Romance prosody, he would be understandable on par with languages like Piedmontese and Ladin (North Italy), though those are not crystal clear sounding either.
@@oleksijm Yeah for example if I try to watch the regional Ladin newscast my understanding highly depends from the accent of the reporter: if they have a Venetian accent it's super easy otherwise if they come from South-Tyrol it's much harder to grasp the words.
It’s very interesting watching everyone acclimate to the language and slowly being able to understand more and more.
Great video. As always!
Me encanta este canal!
Que interessant, sempre havia volgut sentir el romanx. La veritat és que sense mirar els subtítols no és gens fàcil! Mirant els subtítols sí que s'entén bastant tot. Moltes gràcies! 👏👏👏
Is this catalan???
@@irondasgr sí :)
I LOVE YOU!!!! you have the most interesting channel on CZcams.
A vzhledem k tomu, že mluvíš i česky, tak ti to napíšu česky. Opravdu klobouk dolů za to, co děláš. Moc rád se dívám na tvoje videa. Mají neuvěřitelný přesah a dokonale ukazuješ spojitosti a provázanosti, které panují mezi jednotlivými jazyky, kulturami, jazyky, národy...lidmi. Bravo, bravo, bravo!!!
Dzięki!
This one is the most extreme by the distance it lays with the other Romance languages, also super interesting! Bravo. Another nice surprise.
Great video - really fascinating! Based on German and my knowledge of a few Romance languages, I was able to guess quite a lot.
You can immediately tell that Lionel is a second language teacher - I love the way he tries to illustrate the meaning of words through gestures and facial expression. (I used to teach Danish as a 2nd language.)
I really enjoyed this video! I hope Leander thinks about making a CZcams channel teaching Romansh or becomes a iTalki teacher, I would love to learn!
That's a good idea.
I'm a Spanish speaker and I understood:
French: 95% (I have been learning it for a few years)
Italian: 90% ( Without previous knowledge)
Romanian: 30% (Sounds a lot like Latin to me, it is pretty hard)
Romansch: 10% (Sounds like a strange combination of a German speaking person trying to speak Latin. I have studied German for a few years too but still I didn't get almost anything of what he was saying, just identified a few cognates, both with German and romance languages)
Interessantíssimo essa apresentação.
Muito obrigado.
Até a próxima!
Norberto do Brasil 🇧🇷
Какой необычный язык! Спасибо за видео, Норберт!
I love this. Also, it was hilarious when the French man laughed when he realized how hard this was going to be
love from the US
It's interesting, I lived in Switzerland 1982-83 in the French part (Valais) as a kid and I remember these TV spots which featured a common saying in the four official languages of Switzerland. A cartoon with animals speaking the languages in random order so that each had a fair chance of coming first (when the spots featured only German, French and Italian, it was always in that order). The bear spoke German, the dog French, a cat for Italian and finally a beaver for Romansch. The phrases would be something simple like "Can I enter?" or "where is the station?" or "I am hungry". With that, the Romansch sounded pretty straightforward and I was thinking "that's not too bad". It's a good thing they didn't try to use the word for vacuum cleaner!
Does anyone here remember these? I used a tape recorder to get a lot of them!
Another fantastic video! Of the romance language series, this was the most difficult to understand... and the most enjoyable!
I'm addicted to this channel, seriously.
In sardinian:
Spoiler
Bat
There is not a single word, in sardinia there are a lot of geo-synonyms for the flora and fauna, and the bat it's the animal with the highest number of local names, there are almost 180 names
arrata pinnada or ratapignata (from catalan, feathered rat)
alaepedde (wings of leather)
sorighe pinnadu ( feathered mouse) or sorighe pedde (leathered mouse)
And there are tirrìolu, satzamureddu, tzurrundeddu, and so on ...
Stone
Petra, Pedra / Perda (lat. Petra)
Eagle
Abbila / achili (lat. Aquila)
Violin
Biolinu
Vacuum cleaner
Boca•proine / boga•pruini
(Literally: dust remover)
Niente da precisare su quasi tutto. Al limite su Stone/Pietra (in italiano) potrei aggiungere anche Preda. Sull'aspirapolvere però mi sono perso. Mai sentito il termine Boca proine/ bogapruini. Il quale oltretutto mi pare che sia una traduzione che calca il termine italiano. Potrei anche azzardare l'ipotesi che sia un termine inesistente o magari facente parte della Limba Sarda Comuna e quindi un termine che nessun parlante 'normale' sardo usa.
In ogni caso si usa come 'polvere' anche il termine 'prughere' /'pruere'.
@@Tore1960 aspirapolvere stavo per non metterlo poi ho cercato su internet e l'ho trovato, ma giusto per completare la lista 😉
Su preda hai ragione ma visto che anche per il pipistrello ho scelto qualcuno dei tanti anche per pietra non ho inserito tutte le varianti, ho scelto arbitrariamente quelle che secondo me sono più frequenti
In the German part of Switzerland, we have the evening news in Romansh once a week because Graubünden contains the Romansh minority. Half the time, I feel I can understand it because my French is decent, but then it quickly goes off the rails lol.
I've never heard Romanian before. It surprisingly sounds a lot like Portuguese! A bit off-topic, the romanian speaker is also really pretty
As a Spanish speaker I started strong understanding the first three words well enough, but the last two had me at a bit of a loss for a bit, but thankfully between all the questions from the other speakers I was able to piece together all of them eventually. A lot of fun, Thanks for sharing!
Absolutely magnifique!! ;)
Wow. This was very hard. More Romanian please
Would be a nice idea to do a Romanian video with the speaker intentionally using Romance vocabulary, and later a different video that would mostly use Romanian words of Slavic origin, in which Slavic language speakers get to guess!
@@wyqtor that would be nice
YES!
@@wyqtor That's not possible . The Romanian language cannot be spoken only from words of Slavic origin, they have a weight in the sentence between 0 and 10%, let's say a maximum of 20%! But that would be the maximum and they are not even identical to those in Slavic. But in order to know this, you must be a native Romanian speaker or at least know the Romanian language, not give your opinion just from hearsay!
@@ioanaturcan356 Adica cum yes? Poti vorbi romana din cuvinte slavone? Nu. Reprezinta doar in jur de 10% din ponderea cuvintelor dintr-o propozitie.
Leander, the Romansh speaker's accent influenced by Swiss German was instantly recognizable, however I didn't understand much of it. I did hear a bit of similarity with Occitan/Catalan, though. I'm fascinated by Romanian but Casiana spoke a bit too fast. The Italian speaker, Jessica, was easiest to understand correctly, and I understand a lot of what the French speaker said because I have seen Lionel in your other videos and he speaks clearly although I have little experience with French.
I speak English, German and Spanish and am learning Italian on the side. Great job, keep them coming!
I speak 6 languages fluently (besides English, German, from which many Romanch words are derived), plus French, Italian, Spanish and Portuguese. I did find out all correct answers quicker than the panelists, but I think that was in good measure by having subtitles available. I went to St. Moritz for many years, where I got a limited exposure to Romanch. Although I can half guess the Swiss dialect I had great difficulty with Rumanian with which I have no experience. Interesting video!
This series are awesome!!! I really love to hear different and not much known languages. Romansh os very interesting.
I got the first one when he said Transilvania, I understood that it was an animal that eats insects but until he said Transilvania I had my doubts. Bat in Catalan is "ratpenat" or "ratapinyada".
The second one, stone/rock in Catalan is "pedra" or "roca".
The third one is an special one for me, is one of my favourite animals, if I were an animagus I would be a black eagle , "àguila" in Catalan.
The fourth one, the violin in Catalan is called "violí".
The last one quite difficult, I knew the word once he said it suctions the air. In Catalan is quite similar to the others, it is called "Aspirador", though the "r" isn't pronounced.
And well, this one have been the toughest of them all, I understood Romanian even better. I got the words thanks to some coments from others.
This video was interesting!
Best regards from Barcelona!
Very interesting video! Romansch is one of the oddest languages I’ve ever heard haha. In the future could you consider bringing together at the same time speakers of the 5 main Romance languages - Spanish, Portuguese, French, Italian and Romanian? I’m very curious to see if they can comprehend Romanian. Anyways, great job and keep making such insightful videos!
Romanian is pretty easy to understand if they speak slowly.
Wow, ce tare! Super idee! Bravo
As a native Dutch speaker who lived and worked one summer in the Domleschg and Engiadina Ota regions of Switzerland this was very fascinating! I am fluent in English and German but have very limited knowledge of the Romance languages. The format of this video is marvelous! To my own surprise I was able to piece together most of the answers to the questions from the conversations between all the participants. Obviously the guy was not from Schanf (where I lived) because they call a bat there something like Utz mez muir (spelling?) bird half mouse. It was one of the first words this old man taught me while there. Thanks again! I learned a lot! Grazia Fich!
Would love to see more of Leander
He was so nice and I've never heard spoken Romansh
When they were talking about rocks I couldn't help but think of this:
Capra neagra-n piatra calca,
Cum o calca-n patru crapa!
Crape capu caprii-n patru
Cum a crapat piatra-n patru!
Capra neagra calca-n clinci,
Crape capu caprii-n cinci
Cum a calcat capra-n clinci.
Capra paste langa casa
Capu caprii crape-n sase!
Capra noastra n-are lapte
Crapa-i-ar coarnele-n sapte!
Capra-n piatra a calcat
Piatra-n patru a crapat
Povestea s-a terminat!
(am luat-o de pe net nush daca ii fix asa dar mno am zis ca las sa fie)
Nice and when you think that all the words are of Latin origin! Lots of people don't even realize that!
As a Romanian minority in eastern Serbia we speak a Romanian dialect, and I know this rime like this:
A calcat capra pe piatra, a spart piatra'n patru. Crapi capra crapi, c'ai spart piatra'n patru!🤣
@@mirkomirkinger8716 you are aromanian ?
@@florin-mihailuca8124
Yes, of course I am! Yugoslavia tried to assimilate us. We didn't even ever learn to write our spoken mother language. Since generations we teach our Romanian language only by oral traditions to our children. Since some years ago it's different. We qre recognized as a minority and have our rights. Greetings!
Sopra la panca la capra campa, sotto la panca la capra crepa. (On the bench the goat lives, under the bench the goat dies)
That was super interesting!! Thanks for this content!
I'd like to see Corsican language understood by Italian, French and Spanish 🤩
Fantastic! Mulțumesc pentru ocazia să văd cum arată și cum sună romanșa!
Romansh only understandable if you have subtitles for me
Really interesting video, could you please do Ladin next? And compare it to Latin, Italian and Romanian?
I watched the whole video and damn. I was lucky you wrote above the video. The language is pretty new to me and whereas I could understand everything in Italian and more than half in French, it was very hard for me to understand you, Leander and I guessed along my fellow Romanian because I know a bit of German. :D :D Very interesting.