Here’s when you should buy Apple’s cheapest devices

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  • čas přidán 9. 05. 2024
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    The bottom rung of Apple's product categories is better than you might think. Yes, the base iPad, iPhone SE, and Mac Mini look old but underneath their skin is some real value. We explore the options and find out which one is the best option.
    Buy iPad (9th Generation)
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    Buy M1 Mac Mini
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    Buy iPhone SE (2nd Gen)
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    Buy Apple Watch Series 3
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    CHAPTERS
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    0:00 Intro
    0:39 How Apple's cheapest products are cheap
    1:37 Why $329 iPad is best iPad
    3:40 What you miss out on
    4:22 Thanks Blinkist!
    5:12 The Mac Mini is good too
    5:50 The iPhone SE lasts
    6:52 The one exception
    7:33 Conclusion
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Komentáře • 844

  • @jamiepoirier1444
    @jamiepoirier1444 Před 2 lety +1433

    Jonathon, I'm really liking the consumer/user focused direction on this channel. Many Apple channels seem to chase the hot button talking points with new devices (no shade to them, that's important too!), but I really like how your videos feel somewhat niche while also posing interesting questions that feel more applicable and grounded to the average tech user. Props to you and all involved!

    • @johansugarev
      @johansugarev Před 2 lety +20

      This remains the only LTT Chanel that delivers interesting content for me. Lost all interest in x86 since the M1.

    • @Montisaquadeis
      @Montisaquadeis Před 2 lety +16

      @@johansugarev As a PC Gamer x86 is still completely relivent for me personally and I am liking the content that LTT is putting out on the Steam Deck and just Linux in general (month long linux challenege anyone?) So I am the complete oppisite of what you are interested in.

    • @johansugarev
      @johansugarev Před 2 lety +2

      ​@@Montisaquadeis That's good. I personally don't get why the steam deck exists, but then again I don't leave the house often. My PS4 plays games just fine.

    • @necroowl3953
      @necroowl3953 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Montisaquadeis not a challenge if you find it better than other OS

    • @Montisaquadeis
      @Montisaquadeis Před 2 lety +4

      @@necroowl3953 *facepalms* I was talking about the Linux Challenge set of videos that Linus and Luke did for a month

  • @boshbogle
    @boshbogle Před 2 lety +1314

    The base model MacBook Air is probably the best thing Apple has made in a while. I use it for school everyday and it runs all of my editing software perfectly.

    • @22Tech
      @22Tech Před 2 lety +41

      yeah seriously, plus the build quality and everything else is, well, apple quality, and it's super fast like you said. just wish it had more ports

    • @timsonxx
      @timsonxx Před 2 lety +9

      Oh yeah i got one for about 850€ a few months back. I use it for work and for entertainment and it is so great. Mz first mac experience and i really love it

    • @boshbogle
      @boshbogle Před 2 lety +10

      @@22Tech definitely wish it had more ports. at least a usb a and a sd card reader

    • @22Tech
      @22Tech Před 2 lety +5

      @@boshbogle yeah, or hell even just more usb c ports on the OTHER side. that would be better than nothing, also support for more than one external display

    • @Watchandlearn91
      @Watchandlearn91 Před 2 lety +6

      @@22Tech I also love my MBA but that is one thing I would change. It would be nice to be able to charge it or plug stuff in on the other side. If they were going to stick with 2 TB ports, I wish they had gone 1 port on each side.

  • @Naviss
    @Naviss Před 2 lety +508

    During the holidays, Base model iPad's can drop down to $250. For the price, They are unbeatable. Even bought my parents their own as well. They really are great for everyone that just needs a tablet for general use.

    • @eric000
      @eric000 Před 2 lety +3

      Can you tell at which store? So that I can watch out for the next holidays. Thanks!

    • @Naviss
      @Naviss Před 2 lety +8

      @@eric000 A couple years ago I got all mine from Best Buy, during Black Friday sales. I noticed Target also had them that year. With the chip shortage, and price increases now days they may not drop that low again. But I’m sure you could find a deal that’s not to far off.

    • @eric000
      @eric000 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Naviss Thanks will keep in mind next holidays. I never knew this.

    • @lifeisshrt7929
      @lifeisshrt7929 Před 2 lety

      Wow that’s an incredible deal

    • @RackaApps
      @RackaApps Před 2 lety +8

      Yep. Also WiFi only iPads are just usually better deals than the cellular models if you don't need cellular. Even in my country where Apple products are usually more expensive than the US & UK you can still get very cheap and discounted based model wifi only iPads.

  • @TheDinotz
    @TheDinotz Před 2 lety +164

    Honestly the M1 transition has truly made Apple an actual reasonable competitor on the laptop space. Just today managed to snag a base line Macbook Air close to damn brand new for less than 800 Euros and wow, I am impressed.

    • @mpa209
      @mpa209 Před 2 lety +1

      Same, got mine a couple of Months ago for ~850€ and its brilliant

  • @Lync512
    @Lync512 Před 2 lety +781

    I got a base model M1 MacBook air for school and development. And this thing is seriously amazing. Its far better than my other laptop that costs twice as much. And I can get away with not carrying a charger with me when I go out for school and work.

    • @carlosrivera2438
      @carlosrivera2438 Před 2 lety +19

      And u dont need to deal with windows powershell

    • @TonyisToking
      @TonyisToking Před 2 lety +8

      I know right? Never imagined not needing a charger for my laptop. Especially with this performance.

    • @eulehund99
      @eulehund99 Před 2 lety +10

      @@carlosrivera2438 What's the problem with that?

    • @Lync512
      @Lync512 Před 2 lety +12

      @@TonyisToking it’s actually kind of hard to believe. It’s closer in performance to my custom desktop than my old laptops. And I have to keep reminding myself it has no fan and is a base model computer.
      The battery as well. I love not carrying a charger. I just have to leave home with my laptop and not worry that it’ll die in the middle of the day.

    • @Lync512
      @Lync512 Před 2 lety +13

      @Greg I don’t think they’re going back to intel any time soon.
      Macs went from in my eyes over priced and lower performance than completion machines to absolutely worth the price.
      I doubt I’ll want to get another like of laptop after this to be honest.

  • @RackaApps
    @RackaApps Před 2 lety +65

    This is one of the best Apple-centric channel on CZcams.
    Doesn't try to make controversial claims that will stir up backlash.
    Doesn't try to paint other companies as bad and inferior to Apple.
    Speaks honest stuff that isn't filled with fanboy justifications.
    And most importantly puts out consumer/user focused videos that are actually helpful if you want or use Apple products. Hats off to Jonathan and the team. Simply the best out there.

  • @menjivarTv
    @menjivarTv Před 2 lety +43

    The base iPad 2018 was my gateway into the Apple the ecosystem, I bought it when the iPhone 11 was the newest one and for half the price you were getting a higher resolution screen and more functionality.

  • @Ben-ig3bf
    @Ben-ig3bf Před 2 lety +146

    I agree *somewhat*. What I can tell y'all: Dont cheap out on the mac storage and ram. you cant upgrade it after it and *trust me*, you do not wanna be stuck with 256gb storage and 8gb ram 5 years down the line.

    • @macaddress
      @macaddress  Před 2 lety +121

      Yah that's true, with RAM especially. Though, I think if you have a Mac Mini, getting an external hard drive for file storage would be better value since the computer's just going to be sitting there anyway.

    •  Před 2 lety +3

      Nah. Just backup stuff more often. Not a big deal.

    • @Ben-ig3bf
      @Ben-ig3bf Před 2 lety +15

      @@macaddress Yes, that is true with the mac mini. I really like the older mac minis tho because you could upgrade ram. Would be so cool if apple brought back ram and storage upgrades, but apple is gonna be apple and not do that. Can always dream about it when I close my eyes tho xD

    • @DaemonViews
      @DaemonViews Před 2 lety +15

      Funny thing is that the 8 GB of RAM on the MacBook aren't that big of a deal. Can't remember if it was Austin or another channel that went into that.
      I have it in base stuff. External SSD for my large stuff. 1TB Samsung SSD. Upgrading to that internally...
      And the 8gb of RAM is good enough for everything for me and seems to cope way better than 8gb of RAM on a Windows device would. Where 16gb gives me the same experience day to day.

    • @monara97
      @monara97 Před 2 lety +4

      don't forget that most people buy the base model with what all they have. if it's enough in 5 year you can always sell it. so I wouldn't moan about it.

  • @jessicawilson8240
    @jessicawilson8240 Před 2 lety +27

    I always get my phones on contract and for a few phones there I would get the lowest storage option… and ALWAYS regret it. Like I’m pretty sure my first 3 iPhones were 4, 8 and 16gb in order and it was absolutely not enough. Things take up more space now, yeah, but I love that the base storage for their devices now is enough that the average casual user won’t really have to worry about it.

  • @andrewr1355
    @andrewr1355 Před 2 lety +22

    Love the video Jonathan. I loved my iPhone SE that I used a s a secondary/work line. Perfect for the pocket. When my 11 Pro finally kicks I’m going to get an SE. I’m also a fan of buying older Apple tech as cheaply as possible and keeping it for a year or two. Just bought a 2015 27” iMac for less than $150 US. It’s still good hardware for the next couple of years…

  • @doomshead
    @doomshead Před 2 lety +17

    I just bought the ipad 9th gen and I'm loving it... Thanks for the validation of my purchase ❤️

  • @sejoki1
    @sejoki1 Před 2 lety +146

    They actually fixed the "reset to update" requirement for the series 3 with watchOS 8. I still use mine every day from when I bought it in 2016, but it's just not a great experience anymore.

    • @battman505
      @battman505 Před 2 lety +12

      Better just to add 50 dollars and go for the se

    • @Watchandlearn91
      @Watchandlearn91 Před 2 lety +18

      @@battman505 I think it's 80 bucks but still I agree. I am convinced that Apple sometimes keeps the base model products around to convince users to buy a higher end one. Like you look at the Series 3 on the product page and automatically want to get the SE or the 7.

    • @robertt9342
      @robertt9342 Před 2 lety +3

      Series 3is fine, just not as nice as the newer models. I daily drive a 3.

    • @spencercarruth9706
      @spencercarruth9706 Před 2 lety

      The Series 3 came out in 2017, so I find it somewhat hard to believe that you purchased said watch in 2016.

    • @zachattackp1566
      @zachattackp1566 Před 2 lety

      only on the Cellular model. I still need to unpair my GPS model.

  • @abealc88
    @abealc88 Před 2 lety +6

    This was a great video! Good to have some one explain why it’s not always in one’s best interest to buy the flagship

  • @arthuralford
    @arthuralford Před 2 lety +20

    I own both an iPhone SE and an iPad 9th gen, and feel I got a tremendous value without losing anything important

  • @Shadowlegend25
    @Shadowlegend25 Před 2 lety

    I really like your channel…. Your approach on what videos to make is fantastic. You are critically asking the question that the consumer is really asking… not just straight comparison videos but deeper questions that we discover after a few weeks/ months of using our products. I am subscribing right now!

  • @RusiruNawela
    @RusiruNawela Před 2 lety +1

    Loving these Apple ecosystem type of videos. Hope you can make more like this one. Keep it up!❤

  • @vincepopo7497
    @vincepopo7497 Před 2 lety +4

    I like to keep my phones for a long time, so upgrading the storage has been key, after almost 4 years I’m still super happy with my XR, and because I upped the storage I haven’t reached the point where my apps are taking up all the space and I have to juggle them like I have had to do in the past with past phones, and although the xr wasn’t the absolute bottom of the lineup (I think), it certainly was closer to that

  • @dariusandreiminca9703
    @dariusandreiminca9703 Před 2 lety +1

    As someone who has been dealing with an se for over a year now, I've really made it feel like home, sure the screen is a little small and the battery kinda sucks, but for what it is it feels amazing to use.

  • @felipeozalmeida
    @felipeozalmeida Před 2 lety

    I really liked the focus on value and budget in this video. Great content!

  • @b3ans4eva
    @b3ans4eva Před 2 lety +2

    Managed to get a good deal on an 8gen iPad because it was close to announcement time & the store wanted to retire its current stock. It’s a huge jump from a second generation iPad mini.

  • @jerrymoreno1714
    @jerrymoreno1714 Před 2 lety

    Another great vid! Great way to illustrate the value in these entry-level products!

  • @peteroselador6132
    @peteroselador6132 Před rokem

    My first mac was the base model mid-2009 white MacBook, which I bought the DAY before the late-2009 unibody version was announced. Worked like a charm for over half a decade, and I can still use it for some light tasks almost thirteen years later.

  • @arjungandhi1242
    @arjungandhi1242 Před rokem

    I bought a base iPad back in 2017. Still works great! May upgrade when the next round of iPad updates come around as it’s a bit slower these days. Especially when compared to my 13 mini

  • @Standaardnaam
    @Standaardnaam Před 2 lety +140

    iPhone SE is a really good phone with a great processor, for a very accessible price. For most people, and certainly for me, the only real downside is the small battery. Choosing this over the premium phone leaves you (a lot of) money to spend on e.g. a better laptop or desktop, where that money can really get you a lot of extra performance.

    • @eddiem2343
      @eddiem2343 Před 2 lety +2

      How is the battery on it?

    • @bigtitmaster
      @bigtitmaster Před 2 lety +15

      @@eddiem2343 not very good. My mom has one

    • @easymoneysnipurr
      @easymoneysnipurr Před 2 lety +1

      @@eddiem2343 Problem is, to my knowledge it has the same battery (size) as the iPhone 8 but uses a newer and therefore much more powerconsuming processor.

    • @---sg9zj
      @---sg9zj Před 2 lety +17

      @@easymoneysnipurr keep in mind that the newer processor is also a lot more efficient. In my testing the SE well outlasted the 8 (both at 100% battery health)

    • @coralkitty
      @coralkitty Před 2 lety

      But it still has a home button and no face id

  • @Interface_
    @Interface_ Před 2 lety +22

    OMG i wartet soooo long for a new video! Good quality and interesting topic!

    • @macaddress
      @macaddress  Před 2 lety +7

      Thanks!

    • @jaxfilm
      @jaxfilm Před 2 lety +3

      please don’t correct the typo lol it’s hilarious

    • @Interface_
      @Interface_ Před 2 lety +2

      @@jaxfilm bruh imagine you are Austrian and autocorrect kicks XD

    • @mafia_trilogy_enjoyer
      @mafia_trilogy_enjoyer Před 2 lety

      "i wartet"

    • @Interface_
      @Interface_ Před 2 lety

      @@mafia_trilogy_enjoyer As I said, German keyboard lol

  • @descendency
    @descendency Před 2 lety +16

    The Mac Mini M1 may be one of the best Price/Performance devices ever. It's a great device. It's shockingly fast compared to other devices in the same class/price.

  • @arichens
    @arichens Před 2 lety +2

    Was starting to wonder when we'd get another video from you Jonathan. Glad you're back, great video. Do you guys have plans to do your own in-depth review of the M1 Pro and M1 Max MacBook Pros? Not that I didn't enjoy LTT's review of it but I'd love to get your take on it from a less "can it run games as well as a PC" point of view, maybe see what it can do as the daily driver for a content creator with a heavy video and photo editing workflow, or maybe even from a software developer standpoint.

  • @handsomestrangr
    @handsomestrangr Před 2 lety +8

    I bought the 2020 iPhone SE the day it was released due to the deal at Walmart for 200 bucks off. However, the surprising part was that somehow Walmart lost my purchase plan that was supposed to be setup with Verizon. So when I went to pay off the phone Verizon said it had already been fully paid for. So basically I got the phone for 40 bucks out of pocket. Not sure how it happened but it will probably go down in my history as the best value proposition I have ever gotten. lol

  • @muneerfaizal4073
    @muneerfaizal4073 Před 2 lety +6

    Im an android user for life, a week ago I purchased the base variant of the cheapest iPad 9, i paid $390 that’s around ₹29500 with the student discount for the 64 go variant because you pay more than a quarter of its price for government tax in India & its a fact that India is a poor country most people don’t have the purchasing power to buy apple devices. Even if you have the money you should be ready to pay the extra tax. But even though I paid more than I should for a basic tablet I think its worth it because it performs much better than any android tablet in this price range, its performance can be compared to flagship devices from other brands, the only 2 things I’m missing is a USB C connector and the limitations of iPad OS Software
    Either way I’m happy with my iPad 9

  • @typhoon_8086
    @typhoon_8086 Před 2 lety

    I got the Base Model Ipad 9th Gen and it's the best value product I've bought. It's fast and the OS is Smooth and Fluid, definitely enough to get me through taking notes and doing writing assignments in College

  • @gabeinchile2039
    @gabeinchile2039 Před rokem +1

    I bought an 8th gen 32gb iPad for college 2 years ago and I think it has been the best investment of my school life. The storage doesn’t really bother me because we used Google Drive for everything and student accounts had unlimited space, barely needed to download anything ever. I bought a Bluetooth keyboard for the device a couple of weeks ago and I think I will get at least two or even three more years of use out of it now using it for taking notes and writing.

  • @DoctorX17
    @DoctorX17 Před 2 lety

    I got the new Mini with base storage and I'm in love. Grabbed a refurbed iPhone 8 and that's doing pretty well as a secondary phone

    • @user-ju7ui6is1j
      @user-ju7ui6is1j Před 2 lety

      *Thanks for watching*
      👆👆 *Dm to claim your prize*

  • @daviddruce7787
    @daviddruce7787 Před 2 lety +2

    Agree! actually had to go check what gen was my iPad & its a 6/128Gb.Always on the go with my logi crayon everyday, never ever disappoints.

    • @user-ju7ui6is1j
      @user-ju7ui6is1j Před 2 lety

      🌟Thanks for watching
      Dm to claim your prize with address above^^^^^

  • @yaygya
    @yaygya Před 2 lety +4

    I feel you with the iPad 3 purchase. That being said, that thing still has most of its battery capacity nearly 10 years in.

  • @chedoodles
    @chedoodles Před rokem

    Dude, I've been indecisive about the Ipad 9 vs. Ipad Mini 6 and this video helped me to decide which I will like best. Thank you

  • @KaiusKing
    @KaiusKing Před rokem +2

    I appreciate these types of videos! With the average consumer in mind

  • @jonathonrosalia9345
    @jonathonrosalia9345 Před 2 lety +61

    Been running the se for almost 2 years now it was a replacement for my old 6s+ the size difference was the only thing that was a issue to me and took some getting used to and for Black Friday this year I picked up a base model MacBook Air for $860 usd which to me slays most PCs and even at home I don’t use my ryzen desktop near as much as when I was daily driving my hp ultrabook now it’s just for large projects and storage.

    • @mo3r99
      @mo3r99 Před 2 lety +6

      Do you know what punctuation is?

    • @jonathonrosalia9345
      @jonathonrosalia9345 Před 2 lety +3

      @@mo3r99 nope and couldn’t care what is this 1890 and we are doing long form journalism 😂

    • @beefmaster7
      @beefmaster7 Před 2 lety

      Yeah I went from a 6s+ to the 2020 SE. t
      The screen shrinkage is real. Because of that, one issue I’ve found is mistyping more often on the SE due to a smaller keyboard than I’m used to.

    • @fryball1443
      @fryball1443 Před 2 lety +1

      i am the same way about the MacBook air and my custom ryzen desktop. Also I went from the gen 1 SE to the 2020 version as soon as it came out so I was relieved to have a phone that didn't have like a 4 inch screen. i honestly hope the new SE will have edge to edge display but with touchID similar to the newer iPad air and mini

    • @jonathonrosalia9345
      @jonathonrosalia9345 Před 2 lety +1

      @@beefmaster7 I have had the same issue and would like to see a se+ with touch kinda like the old 6-8 iPhones had the plus size I loved my old 6s+ as a daily driver phone it was a tablet replacement for me

  • @ialrakis5173
    @ialrakis5173 Před 2 lety

    I so agree. You don't always need the most expensive device. My Mac mini M1 is great for teleworking and the previous generation iPad mini is ideal for reading.

  • @user-cc5ut4ij7q
    @user-cc5ut4ij7q Před 2 lety +6

    Apple products' longevity is just insane. I bought my iphone 7 when it first launched (maybe 2016?) and it still works really great!

  • @mordecaiepsilon
    @mordecaiepsilon Před 2 lety +3

    Do you think you'll feature more legacy Apple products and last generation Apple products? I think it would be interesting to see how useful and capable they are now and how supported by Apple they are.

  • @NoChillMan
    @NoChillMan Před 2 lety +5

    I bought the base iPad a few months ago to kinda test how I'd like the Apple ecosystem, coming from Android (also my first time buying a tablet) and I absolutely love it. It does basically everything I want it to at a reasonable price. If you're willing to put another ~$130 into it, the Logitech Combo Touch case is a good addition. The keyboard is better than Apple's Smart Keyboard imo and the trackpad is a nice bonus. I don't think the iPad screen's air gap is really noticeable, but I can see how it might be an issue if you plan on drawing with an apple pencil or something.
    I think my only complaint would be the bottom-firing speakers, but after getting the airpod pros on sale it's really not an issue if I'm just watching youtube by myself, and connecting to a bluetooth speaker to get better sound if I have other people watching with me isn't a big deal either.
    I would highly recommend saving A bit of money and just getting the base iPad unless you REALLY need some of the features of the higher end models. It really is a good product for $330.

    • @user-ju7ui6is1j
      @user-ju7ui6is1j Před 2 lety

      🌟Thanks for watching
      Dm to claim your prize with address above^^^^^

  • @aayush_dutt
    @aayush_dutt Před 2 lety +12

    I own the iPhone SE 2 and the base model iPad. The iPad has been amazing and so has been the SE. The single complaint I keep having with the iPhone all the time is its low battery capacity.

    • @jockeyjeon9532
      @jockeyjeon9532 Před 2 lety +3

      SE2 owner here. My previous device was an Android with a 4,100mAh battery (SE has 1,821 mAh in comparison). So, I deleted the CZcams app and now my screen time averages 1~2 hours per week lol So my point is... Thanks, Apple for...fixing my addiction...?
      Who am I kidding.
      Just buy a power bank.
      Me, probably never. Too cheap
      I mean goddam why would you think I bought the SE from the first place?

    • @daleth50
      @daleth50 Před rokem +1

      @@jockeyjeon9532 actually I bought an SE to reduce my screen time and it worked, the small battery forces me to not use the phone

    • @jockeyjeon9532
      @jockeyjeon9532 Před rokem +1

      @@daleth50 I also imagine this is sort of the lifestyle of EV users. Planning their trip ahead and charge their cars accordingly. For example whenever I leave town I make sure to fully charge my SE instead of keeping the healthy 80-50% rule.

  • @raikiri23
    @raikiri23 Před 2 lety

    I'm currently using the base M1 Mac Mini. This little thing has been fantastic for me.
    I did get burned once nearly 10 (good god...) years ago. I bought a second hand 15" MacBook Pro 2013. This is the first year that the base 15" models didn't have dedicated graphics, so I was stuck with Iris Pro. It is also the year before the entry RAM amount got bumped to 16GB. Doing video projects in college while maxing out my 8GB of RAM was an exercise in suffering

  • @Zer0C00L
    @Zer0C00L Před rokem

    that's some sweet stock music. I could listen to those fm bells for days.

  • @simonkraemer3725
    @simonkraemer3725 Před 2 lety +1

    One thing you didn’t mentioned and was one tipping point to the iPad Air (besides storage that used to be way to to slow with 32gb) was the support for the Apple pencil 2. It is noticeable better and i would get mad with charging the first generation. but if you need a tablet, not a semi-full PC replacement, the iPad is just for you.

  • @PsychoticSashimiS
    @PsychoticSashimiS Před 2 lety

    Used my base 2017 iPad up until the new mini came out and tbh It was a champ!

  • @joeycantalini7597
    @joeycantalini7597 Před rokem

    Such an awesome quality video! Also very helpful!

  • @pnwmeditations
    @pnwmeditations Před 2 lety

    This is a good piece, thank you!

  • @knate44
    @knate44 Před 2 lety

    This is good to know. I ended up going up one cost level up with an IPad Mini 6 because I needed that sweet USB C.

  • @sagarkapasi099
    @sagarkapasi099 Před 2 lety

    Rocking Macbook Pro Mid 2012 Non Retina. More Than Enough for Web Development and Android App Dev with an SSD & 4GB Ram. Only Replaced Broken Keyboard for $25 bought second hand for about $300 in 2019.

  • @DavidFromOuterSpace
    @DavidFromOuterSpace Před 2 lety

    still using a late 2012 MacMini that i upgraded myself over time. Also still using an early 2015 MacBook Air for traveling and everyday stuff. These products are still really good. Just got an iPad Pro recently and the only reason for not going with a cheaper option was the Apple Pencil 2 support (base iPad can only handle Apple Pencil 1) - The only info missing here. :)

  • @amillusion1
    @amillusion1 Před 2 lety

    I bought a series 3 Apple Watch in 2020 I didn’t feel burned at all. The resale value never dropped so when I upgraded to series 5 I got most of my money back selling it on OfferUp. I upgrade to the newest budget iPad every year by trading in last year’s model (went from 7-8-9th gen). Same deal iPads trade in value always stay high so I upgrade for $100 every year.

  • @LoftechUK
    @LoftechUK Před 11 měsíci

    This was a fantastic idea and loved it. Great stars too.

  • @8aravindk
    @8aravindk Před 2 lety +1

    I would love a series where you buy the cheapest kit for a 5 year life cycle for example and we can periodically check in how it's holding up.
    For example, as per this video, if we buy the cheapest gear apple sold today, total cost and value and projected longevity (8GB RAM not enough 3/4 years later on base Mini and Air, 64 Storage running out on SE And iPad)
    VS
    A likely future proof build, 16GB RAM on the Air/Mini, 128GB storage on iPad/Iphone SE, total cost and projected longevity.
    That would be an interesting video to watch

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 Před 2 lety +2

    Funny enough, my parents actually got my little brother & I the Apple Watch SE for Christmas last year. Coming off the Series 0, it’s a huge upgrade.

    • @macaddress
      @macaddress  Před 2 lety +1

      Are you both using Family Setup?

    • @Neoxon619
      @Neoxon619 Před 2 lety

      @@macaddress I don’t think so, which is weird considering that everyone in my family has an Apple Watch of some kind. Mom & Dad have a Series 4, my older sister has a Series 6 (after our dog chewed up her Series 4), and obviously my little bro & I have the SE.

  • @JJ_Magnificent
    @JJ_Magnificent Před 2 lety

    Love my iPad 9!! Got it just for procreate, gives me everything I need 👌🏽

  • @devnol
    @devnol Před 2 lety

    My dad got the SE 2020 last year after upgrading from the 5s he's had since around 2018. He's really not the type who can judge things as well other than the fact that he uses it daily but other than the battery it is a pretty good deal if you have to be in the ecosystem. I, on the other hand, am rocking a 2015 MacBook Pro and, besides the 2.7GHz i5 and the 8 gigs of ram that I still find decent for a 7 year old machine, the 128 gigs of storage ran out almost immediately, especially since I wanted to have Windows and Arch (btw) installs on it. I shelled out another 300 bucks for a 480 gig drive, 280 of which is dedicated to my main macOS installation that I use for day-to-day tasks and I find it more than enough. So I'd say whatever you do, especially now with non-upgradeable storage, do not get anything below 256, preferably 512GB. On the other hand, since external storage is getting smaller and faster, and especially much cheaper than what Apple charges you for their built-in, it seems to me that 256GB might be the sweet spot for pretty much any user I can think of, since media, backups or code can easily be stored externally.

  • @vet330_
    @vet330_ Před 2 lety

    thanks for this video! really helped me in making some decisions.

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  • @blzt3206
    @blzt3206 Před 2 lety +2

    You’re a great presenter and a valuable addition to LMG

  • @SamuelRegier
    @SamuelRegier Před 2 lety

    Buoyed a iPad Pro 11“ 2020 for 650 refurbished and the 120Hz plus usb-c port are wonderful
    Only thing is I could have a tab s7 with a pen included and a bigger ambled display.
    But as I wanted specific apps I had to go for the iPad and I think it was a good decision :)

  • @tyler.r
    @tyler.r Před 2 lety

    Got an absolute base bottom of the barrel m1 Mac mini and a top of the line windows pc with all the modern hard to get parts. I use both about 50/50

  • @T_t418
    @T_t418 Před 2 lety

    I bought ipad mini 5 (256gb wifi only) right before the new ipad mini came out.
    still not as much regret after that 6th generation thing came out.
    my ipad mini custom made with a particular engraving had decided to quit working on me on the very last month of its warranty so i brought it to the apple care center and they got me a new ipad mini in just 4 days
    yeah, the mac mini is a fair choice.

  • @Ernels06
    @Ernels06 Před 2 lety

    I bought iPad 9 early december to replace my netbook because it’s dead, for my usage which mainly for multimedia and basic office it’s amazing
    Very happy with my decision even though i need to adapt to lot of things because it’s my first Apple device

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  • @lolomo5787
    @lolomo5787 Před 2 lety

    The basw model ipad is always a steal. Nothing can beat it in terms of price to performance.

  • @RowanWolf22
    @RowanWolf22 Před 2 lety

    The new IPad you mentioned is SO good. I got it a month ago and let me tell you 🥺 it’s so much nicer than iPad Air and unless you’re a pro, you really don’t need the pro one!
    I’ve been doing art, video calls, watching, so many applications 😭 it’s a genuine joy to use!!! And SO MUCH CHEAPER

  • @AlnisSmidchens
    @AlnisSmidchens Před 2 lety +1

    I was burned by buying an iPod touch 4th gen. Since I was in 4th or 5th grade or so, it took a lot of saving up to buy it. Lo and behold, the new iPod touch comes out, and pretty soon mine is a slow mess and apps stop supporting it. Great looking hardware, but man did it become obnoxious to use. I then switched to Windows phone and found the experience much nicer :) However nowadays I'm using a Nokia 6.1 Android, and I'll probably upgrade to a Google Pixel (or Fairphone 4 if it gets a US release) sometime in the next year.

  • @Isengardtom
    @Isengardtom Před 2 lety

    Nice video. And good call on the watch. The series 3 is too outdated. The iPad 9 though is amazing value

  • @Raditude
    @Raditude Před 2 lety

    Sometimes entry level is great, but sometimes it makes sense to go big or go home.
    I’ve picked up three AppleTV HDs, even though there’s two newer models. For my TV viewing it just needs to be good enough, I’m fine with 1080p, and I have a Harmony remote that does what I need. What matters is it puts me in the Apple ecosystem.
    For a computer, I went with the Mac Mini, because of the lower price, and I can use my 43” displays. I did order the 16/512 model, since they can’t be upgraded later, and I plan to keep it for 10+ years.

  • @Marchelo1988
    @Marchelo1988 Před rokem

    The M1 Mac Mini is absolutely incredible. I've been using it for eight months now and it is just fantastic. I can edit 4k videos or just surf the net seamlessly. Stream music, work, have 10 tabs opened, and everything just works perfect. This is something I'm already taking for granted and I never had it before on Windows. Not even in brand new machines, I believe.

  • @Josh-im9go
    @Josh-im9go Před rokem

    I scored my Series 3 Apple Watch 38mm at Walmart for a steel of a deal at $124.00 USD. Always check with major retailers as they do clearance out old stock in anticipation for new models.

  • @gabsttz3236
    @gabsttz3236 Před 2 lety +1

    I have the iPad 9th gen with 64gb of storage, and it is AMAZING i love it! I would recommend it for students or to everyone that needs a cheap Tablet with great power and a decent amount of storage

    • @jvde96art67
      @jvde96art67 Před rokem

      And it runs even heavy games sooo well, I have the 256gb , and my old old iPad I don’t know what model still works too after 7 years maybe

  • @LMacNeill
    @LMacNeill Před 2 lety

    I have the M1 Mac Mini. Although, not the base model -- I did pay $200 to upgrade the RAM from 8GB to 16GB. But it has the base 256GB storage -- I keep all my files on an external 1TB Thunderbolt 4 SSD.

  • @priultimus
    @priultimus Před 2 lety

    Personally, I did this but with some slight adjustments. Instead of getting the iPad, I got AirPods Pro. Frankly, as someone who doesn't need a laptop, having a Mac mini at home and my iPhone when I'm out works great. The money I could've spent on the iPad I spent on the AirPods Pro and I think I derive more value from these with their noise cancellation than I would get from an iPad. It just seems more useful to me. Great video though, I love the analysis!

  • @chrislight8922
    @chrislight8922 Před 2 lety +1

    This channel and Jonathan are such a breath of fresh air

  • @SaneGhoul
    @SaneGhoul Před 2 lety

    I've considered going full apple and getting base everything minus watch. I have a 16GB iPad Air 2 that's still running smoothly and an older Apple TV that's leagues ahead of what's on my TV by default. Meanwhile I have a newer but cheaper Android phone and a Windows 10 laptop that are slow and always have one software issue or another. Going all Apple, base everything is more than enough for most people I would imagine.

  • @AlistairGreyblood
    @AlistairGreyblood Před 2 lety

    I have a 7th Gen iPad I got in January the year the 8th Gen came out later in the year. And I wasn’t disappointed. It was my first time back into the apple ecosystem since the old iPhone 3GS which I hated. Now I have the iPhone 11 (will upgrade to the 14 lasted this year probably) the second Gen AirPods (will upgrade once these die) and I need a new watch I use a normal one but the Apple Watch series 7 actually impressed me enough to want it.

  • @sadjesse
    @sadjesse Před 2 lety

    I recently bought a iPhone SE (2020) refurbished, it remplaces my worn-out iPhone 8 and I get to still use my old case. I also have a Apple Watch SE :)

  • @queasycarboy508
    @queasycarboy508 Před rokem

    I semi-agree, apart from the SE and the watch.
    The iPhone SE i tried only lasted until lunchtime. Not only that, but it was also slowing down a lot. It also has a single camera for those who want a triple camera. (Had iPhone SE 2020 for 1.5 years and hated it all along)
    As for the apple watch series 3, you’re missing so much that for a couple of bucks more you can just buy the SE and the dofference is a world apart.

  • @stevenrburgoyne
    @stevenrburgoyne Před 2 lety

    Interesting, I rock a 2020 SE and Mac Mini. They do what I want and are affordable. I did splurge for the Series 7 Apple watch though, just a way better product overall.

  • @newecreator
    @newecreator Před 2 lety

    Here I am still rocking this iPhone SE 2nd Gen!

  • @triciasroll
    @triciasroll Před 2 lety

    I already have a Macbook Pro 2020 Intel, and I read cases all the time on it so I wanted something portable that I can hold nearer to my eyes without a keyboard. I was planning to buy an iPad Air 4th Gen, with the Apple Pencil 2nd gen, but I just thought of buying the iPad 9th gen, with the 1st gen Apple Pencil since the storage is a GREAT upgrade, and it's just what I actually need.
    It just depends I think with what you're planning to do with your apple devices. I have my iPhone where I can take pictures with. The cheapest doesn't mean the worst, it's just more affordable. I mostly invest in bigger storage, and I plan to make most of the investment I have with it for a very long time.
    My first iPad was the mini in its first generation, and I swear it lasted so long with 16gb of storage. This new purchase was a win for me.

  • @ronto55
    @ronto55 Před 2 lety +1

    I love the idea of the SE but the battery is just bad. I’m currently thinking of upgrading to a pro model

  • @lucassuhadolnik3672
    @lucassuhadolnik3672 Před 2 lety

    Commenting from a 128gb iPhone SE. Can confirm, certified banger.
    Although, I am excited to upgrade to something with a larger display.

  • @adamw.3409
    @adamw.3409 Před 2 lety

    1:23 the consumer models of Mac mini 2010 had a dvd-slot.. the only version without the hole was the server one...

  • @aswinhanagal4293
    @aswinhanagal4293 Před 2 lety

    Actually the series 3 is a steal when bundled with 6 months of fitness+ plus a discount (often happens, can go to 130-150). It overall ended up being better than quite a few other smartwatches in the price

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  • @Ender275
    @Ender275 Před 2 lety +1

    The only time i can think of people getting burned by the base model apple products were back when the iPhone 5C released. I knew 4 people who had them in the apple bumper cases that dropped them and had the screen spider web crack. I had a college friend who still had one in 2016 until the phone decided to vibrate for no reason then the phone wouldn’t read a SIM card. Not too long after the phone died altogether.

  • @charliecarrot
    @charliecarrot Před 2 lety

    I bought a refurbished Mac Mini M1 for less than $600 and it's the most powerful computer I've ever owned. It's my only Apple device (besides a Magic Trackpad, highly recommend) and I'm falling in love with macOS. Logic Pro runs like a dream, while my 2015 Dell XPS has so much trouble with Reaper.
    There are a number of things that frustrate me since I'm used to Windows. Snapping windows to the sides seems like it should be simple. Window management in general is pretty different. The way Finder seems to obfuscate the file directory (especially at first, coming from Windows Explorer). But pretty much everything I want to do has a reasonable way to get done in macOS. I like the idea of having to learn new things and change up my workflow. And it's just a joy to use in so many ways compared to Windows. Sure, I have to learn a different style of window management, but it's not bad just because it's different.

  • @atharvagupta9355
    @atharvagupta9355 Před 2 lety

    Jonathon, when are you enabling dark mode on your set? Can't wait for the change to happen!!

  • @user-wm4cn2vi5b
    @user-wm4cn2vi5b Před 3 měsíci

    I managed to get a brand NEW macbook air M2 for 1.049€ (on apple store it sells for 1.300€) and im LOVING it, very good for my university and also for coding

  • @jackblackwhole
    @jackblackwhole Před 2 lety +1

    Still rocking the 6th gen ipad 128 gb. I just love the finger print sensor and I can consume most media on the device with great resolution. I would say Cheap ipad is the best ipad, but only if it is not your everything device.

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  • @Werdna12345
    @Werdna12345 Před 2 lety

    I was taking this literally. Just like all apple products, you should by it right after it's released. When it comes to the cost effective models, it's all the more true. Better to get in when it has somewhat current gen hardware, than 2-4 years later

  • @theoldtechhandheldtinkerer4092

    2:07 I had to deal with apple devices with only 8 and 16 GB, in Fact I think I had an 8GB iphone 3G, a 16GB, or maybe 32GB ipod Touch 4th Gen, an iPhone 5G with 32GB, a iPhone SE (1st Gen) with 64GB and now without having had a 126GB device I jumped to 256GB with the iphone 7 Plus and the 2020 iPad Pro 11", and I do happen to carry both at all times so I have an accumulated 512GB, that is if I'm not carrying my 4TB external HDD, which I can actually connect to the iPad!!. (thanks to the USB-C port, kinda was the main reason I went with the Pro.

  • @deepfried1234
    @deepfried1234 Před 2 lety

    i bought the new base model iPad student discounter at $300, best deal in tech ever imo. This thing is a computer. iPadOS is getting better ever year and although it’s not perfect, I’ve switched from using windows laptops to just having this pretty much. Works swimmingly with my iPhone, it has a lot of accessories, and I LOVE the Apple Pencil. The laminated display is there, but as some random human, I really don’t care because it still feels good and responsive. they nailed it imo

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  • @ZedemMonk
    @ZedemMonk Před 2 lety

    Got the iphone se 2020 for size in spring 2020 just after its release mostly for smaller form factor, was a little sad at first when iphone 12 mini came out and was smaller but I'm comforted in the knowledge that Touch ID is way better in the Rona Days than Fave ID.

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    • @alexbolog3635
      @alexbolog3635 Před 2 lety +1

      yea, but the battery on that thing is horrendous. you can buy the 13 mini now that the pandemic is over. I've only heard good things about it.

  • @davidBeach06
    @davidBeach06 Před 2 lety

    I bought a MacBook Air in February of 2020 and a few months later the new 2020 MacBook Air with the better keyboard was announced then on top of that the m1 got announced near the end of 2020

  • @rud
    @rud Před 2 lety +1

    The TLDR version: I am now buying smaller hard drive capacity for my i devices and use my 2 TB iCloud for sync.
    The long version: Granted, on the cheapest MacBook Air, I got 500gb but I use external USB for FCPX editing. my newly ordered iPhone 13 will only be 256GB, compared to the 512GB iPhone 11, I don't feel the extra space has great resale value. Just before 2019, I was in ICU for 1 week and a half, and I gave a friend my CC and asked them to buy me the cheapest iPad so I was entertained while tied up to tubes and probed everywhere. The 32GB is a bit of a problem today and OS updates sometimes fail. I had to disable the feature to uninstall not often used apps because it seems to favor things in my fotos lib. so apps I use once pr month, where always uninstalled.
    But since I needed a 2TB iCloud account anyway, the strategy of choosing smaller capacity devices works well for me.

  • @Coffeeratgaming
    @Coffeeratgaming Před 2 lety

    jonathon it be interesting throught for some uses idea of goning with older ipad pro(1st-2nd gen) vs a new ipad given there price points value it may bring

  • @zergadis0
    @zergadis0 Před 2 lety +5

    I agree about iPad - currently a basic one is literally the best value you can get from any tablet on the market, but I wouldn't really recommend anyone to buy iPhone SE - its battery is just terrible, don't expect it to survive a full day even with quite moderate usage.

    • @simonkraemer3725
      @simonkraemer3725 Před 2 lety

      i have a power bank at hand. with that it’s a great phone

  • @battman505
    @battman505 Před 2 lety

    Glad you made this vid everyone says apple are overpriced for most people, and while in the past that may have been valid nowadays they offer great budget devices for money conscious among us.

  • @MrBaskins2010
    @MrBaskins2010 Před 2 lety

    the base model Mac mini is incredible. I'm running xcode, youtube and batch saving 2000 images in photoshop right now. one beach ball in the first month and that's because I intentionally opened 10 different programs

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